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  • in reply to: RamView, 11/16/2014: Rams 22, Broncos 7 (Long) #12141
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    I agree with your whole take on Hill. I like watching him, he has a quick mind and makes quick, smart throws. He also has a steady air of confidence I like. Last year McCown was in the right place at the right time with Chicago, and as a result, his averaged out numbers from previous seasons just didn’t tell you who he would be in that offense that year (and now whatever it was, he has since lost it). Maybe that’s the case with Hill this year–being in the right place at the right time. Last time he started several games, in Detroit, they had nothing but Hill to Johnson—no running game, the 21st ranked defense. Unlike the Rams 2014 defense, it was a real ranking…that was really them. Clearly, in contrast, the present Rams defense is playing way better than their averaged out rankings would suggest. So maybe this is just the time and place for Shaun Hill.

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    Interesting thing about Hill from the Jeff Fisher Show: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jeff-fisher-show-november-17/ . Fisher of course praises the poise, consistency, quick decisions. But, Hill helped a lot in the running game by audibling out of bad run calls to the pass, and audibling into good run calls out of the pass. Fisher says a lot of what made the run game work was because of Hill doing that.

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    1:00 Kenny Britt on Shaun Hill’s performance vs. Broncos
    3:00 Britt on Tre Mason’s role and importance of o-line performance
    8:00 Britt on being a mentor to Brian Quick
    11:00 Jeff Fisher reviews his team’s performance in win vs. Broncos
    14:00 Fisher weighs in on call against Rodney McLeod
    20:00 Fisher on Maurice Alexander making most of his opportunity
    30:00 Looking ahead to game vs. San Diego

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    ReFo: Broncos @ Rams, Week 11
    Kiernan Hogan | November 17, 2014

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/11/17/refo-broncos-rams-week-11/

    Shaun Hill was the big story entering the game for the St. Louis Rams, as the journeyman quarterback replaced Austin Davis (-12.7 overall fourth-lowest among all quarterbacks) for his first start since Week 1. Hill was adequate, but the Rams’ defense stole the show as St. Louis shocked the Broncos.

    The more physical team, the Rams allowed just 28 yards on 10 rushing attempts, and beat up the Broncos with several huge hits. Receivers Emmanuel Sanders and Andre Caldwell left the game with injuries after sustaining blows from St. Louis defenders, and Julius Thomas also left the game early with an ankle injury. Denver is now tied with Kansas City for the AFC West division lead, with a huge game in Arrowhead looming in two weeks.

    Denver Broncos – Performances of Note

    Peyton Manning, QB: -2.6

    Breakdown: Manning struggled when pressured, finishing with a -3.5 grade on these plays, as opposed to a +1.3 grade when not pressured. The Bronco QB had trouble when blitzed as well, finishing with a -2.2 grade on 17 such drop-backs.

    Signature Stats: On 13 drop-backs under pressure, Manning was 5-11 for 53 yards and two interceptions, and was also sacked twice.

    Manny Ramirez, RG: -3.3

    Breakdown: Ramirez’ -3.3 grade was the worst of any Bronco, after earning red grades in both pass protection and run blocking. He finished with a -2.4 run blocking grade on just 12 such snaps.

    Signature Stat: Ramirez’ fourth red grade of the season, and he has not finished with a green grade since Week 1.

    Malik Jackson, DE: +3.2

    Breakdown: Jackson finished the game with positive grades in pass rushing, run defense and pass coverage. Four of his five tackles were stops, and he added a hit, hurry and batted pass as a pass rusher.

    Signature Stat: Jackson continued his excellent season as a backup, earning his seventh green grade in his past eight games. Jackson currently ranks seventh among all 4-3 defensive ends with a +13.5 overall grade.

    St. Louis Rams – Performances of Note

    T.J. McDonald, SS: +5.5

    Breakdown: McDonald’s +5.5 overall grade was the best of his career, and he now has green grades in his past three games after a poor start to the season. All four of his tackles were stops, and he earned a +5.4 coverage grade. Manning was 4-8 for just 10 yards when targeting McDonald.

    Signature Play: With 3:16 left in the game, Manning’s pass to Andre Caldwell sailed high, and McDonald crushed Caldwell with a legal hit to break up the pass.

    Robert Quinn, DE: +2.6

    Breakdown: Quinn had a big game as a pass rusher, tallying three hits, two hurries and two batted passes. This was the fourth green-graded game in a row for Quinn, who now ranks sixth among 4-3 defensive ends in our cumulative pass rushing grading.

    Signature Play: On 4th-and-4 at 9.47 in the fourth quarter, Quinn burst through the middle of Denver’s offensive line untouched on a stunt, setting up Aaron Donald for an easy cleanup sack, and a turnover on downs.

    Alec Ogletree, LB: +2.3

    Breakdown: A balanced effort from Ogletree, who led the team with five stops and a +1.7 run defense grade, in addition to some solid work in coverage. Ogletree also added a batted pass at 2:30 in the fourth quarter, ending any chance of a Broncos comeback.

    Signature Play: On the first play of the fourth quarter, Ogletree had tight coverage on Jacob Tamme, and capitalized on a poor decision from Manning with an interception.

    PFF Game Ball

    T.J. McDonald’s career-best +5.5 grade, and fine work in coverage, earn him the game ball.

    in reply to: OMG! OMG! OMG! (Denver post-game thread) #12129
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    And next year, we can get all sky high about the draft picks, and the “year under the belt,” and the return of Bradford, and the development of the young ‘uns….

    Plus by then we will be able to post in 3D.

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    And again, this bites us in the ass WORST in the Red Zone. We got there, if I recall, twice the other day. And Tre had clearly been showing he could run on this D front. And we DID try to run … and got stuffed. We got stuffed trying to sustain a hole through the full execution of a Requiem Mass choreography for Trappist monks by our OL and backs. Seven or 8 seconds after the ball was snapped, Tre would get NEAR the LOS and find the DEN D front in his face. Gee. Imagine that.

    Well, to be fair, remember, Schott has always been pretty good in the redzone.

    Last year for example Bradford was dang near 50% on TDs to attempts.

    I think they will get up to speed on that with Hill.

    As for gimmick plays? I may like them more than you do. It is a Schott thing though. IMO, often, it’s just one more way to punctuate power running/ball control with big plays.

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    Rams Report Card

    NFL Media’s Brian Billick hands out his report card grades for the St. Louis Rams after their victory against the Denver Broncos.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/NFL-Rams-Report-Card/518b3b72-ece6-4cfb-a0dc-2ff34d4564a1

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    On the Chargers offensive line problems:


    http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2014/11/17/7235501/how-to-fix-the-san-diego-chargers-offensive-line

    Problem number one is interior blocking. Nick Hardwick is not coming back, Chad Rinehart has been terrible, Johnnie Troutman has been woefully inconsistent, and Rich Ohrnberger is decent when healthy (which is rare). This group has not been able to push the line and help the running game.

    Problem number two is speed rushers. Every defense in the NFL has at least one guy who gets to QBs based on his speed and athleticism instead of pure strength, and they’re been having great success pointing them directly at a (possibly injured) D.J. Fluker at Right Tackle.

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/11/17/team-grades-chargers-outslug-raiders-in-13-6-affair/

    (SD v. Oakland)

    After being held scoreless (37-0) a week ago last Sunday in Miami, San Diego’s offense wasn’t exactly barnstorming on this Sunday afternoon. Chargers were a meager 4-of-15 on third down conversions, finishing with 300 yards of total offense (120 rushing). The return of starting running back Ryan Mathews (out since week two with a knee injury) did help, as the fifth-year back out of Fresno State finished the day with 70 yards on 16 carries. The biggest problem for San Diego was the offensive line’s inability to give Rivers and the running game consistent protection. Rivers took a number of hits, including a pair that had him in noticeable pain (knee, chest). Although he finished the game, he likely needed a long time in an ice bath after this snoozer of an offensive performance by the team as a whole. Keenan Allen led San Diego’s receivers with eight catches for 63 yards.

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    in reply to: Hill to start Sunday #12100
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    Davis knows he wasn’t playing well, and any QB not playing well knows he is in jeopardy of being replaced. Fisher should have replaced Davis, and he should have done it earlier.

    It is true…or rather I believe…that if they had replaced him a game sooner, Rams woulda won the ARZ game.

    But…though he didn’t play well in the SF game…they won that one, so, I don’t think Fisher would have replaced him at that point.

    I still wish they had done it then anyway. Shrug.

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    Even if the Rams won six in a row, they probably would not make the playoffs, so I’m not indulging in that fantasy right now just because they put together one complete game against a good team.

    Zooey sez: “Celebration is for sissies anyway”—>

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    from off the net…controversial post, just throwing it out there to add to discussion…

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    Lots of “ifs” here, but….

    IF Shaun Hill keeps playing at a high level (as he did against the Broncos), do you all think he is truly “too old” to consider as our QB for 2015 and 2016?

    Shaun Hill is “only” 34.

    Peyton is 38. Brady is 37. Brees is 35. Romo is 34.

    Vick is 34, but (of course) his game depends more on athleticism than Hill’s game does.

    Hate to say it, but maybe Hill has less “wear on his tires” being a backup for so many years…..?

    I may be in the minority, but IF Hill keeps playing well this year, I’d be more than happy to have him back in 2015 and 2016– I’d rather having an aging Hill than roll the dice on slim pickins’ for QB’s this offseason. Each individual season feels like a lifetime these days….if we could have a solid QB for the second half of 2014, and ALL of 2015 and 2016, I for one would love it.

    Heck, people are talking about Roethlisberger as a big money FA, but I think he is 32 already….!

    Anyway– the conventional wisdom seems to be that Shaun Hill is “too old” to even consider as the answer at QB for the Rams. But IF Hill keeps it up for the rest of the season, I say “ride with the old guy” for 2 or 3 years!

    Hill is SMART, he gets the ball out FAST, he makes GOOD DECISIONS, he’s got ENOUGH mobility to extend plays… he’s just the sort of QB who could “age well”!

    F Hill continues to play well this season, IMHO the Rams DON’T “need to draft a future guy next year.”

    Or, more specifically, IF Hill continues to play well, I don’t think the Rams should feel the need to reach for a QB with one of their 2015 premium picks (i.e. rd 1 or rd 2).

    Mariota will be gone before we pick, and Winston seems like a CRAZY risk– a ticking self-destruct time bomb. No good FA’s out there. (Roethlisberger seems like a scummy guy, I personally don’t want that dude on the Rams.)

    If someone like Bryce Petty were available in rd. 3 or 4, fine, go get him. But IMHO,I don’t think the Rams need to “reach” in 2015 just because Hill is “too old.”

    The conventional wisdom seems to be that the Rams need to get their future set at QB in the spring of 2015. I’m just floating the idea that IF Hill remains solid, the Rams should stick to BPA in the 2015 draft, and not feel pressured to spend big bucks on one of the the crappy FA QB’s available.

    My whole point is predicated on the “big if” of Hill being solid for the rest of 2014… but IF Hill is as good as we all hope he’ll be, I say the Rams should continue to improve the rest of the team, and it might even be wiser to WAIT until 2016 to invest a high pick on a QB.

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    Postgame Locker Room Speech

    Watch head coach Jeff Fisher address the team immediately following the Rams win over the Broncos.

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/videos/videos/Postgame-Locker-Room-Speech/a8bc8f78-cfa4-45bb-906b-c216fe8b218c

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    Where did you meet him?

    I know that he lost interest in the game.

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    It was still a 6 point lead with the 3rd Q more than half over. The Broncos were one big play away from leading, with whatever that might have done to Rams’ psyches.

    But a well-designed play with the big rookie tackle leading the rookie RB brought the Rams into easy scoring position and kept the clock rolling. The subsequent field goal meant that Denver needed two scores, and the Rams’ confidence grew.

    On Denver’s following possession, Manning threw the ball to Ogletree.

    I liked having Mason following Robinson’s block. They know each other well from college, and have that timing and anticipation. And it takes advantage of Robinson’s athleticism.

    That was a boost! #27 for 27!

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    After beating the Broncos, can the Rams beat anyone? ESPN’s Nick Wagoner tells “The Fast Lane”

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    Ram Bytes: Rams defense pulls off rare feat

    Bernie Miklasz

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/ram-bytes-rams-defense-pulls-off-rare-feat/article_6589556f-82e3-5c5a-9f29-7b04a721f455.html

    A few observations and opinions the day after the Rams’ stunning 22-7 victory over Peyton Manning and the highfalutin Denver Broncos…

    * Here’s why I believe the Rams’ win was the best by the franchise since Jeff Fisher took over as coach in 2012: because we saw something that had never happened before … and that’s always special.

    The Rams pulled off something yesterday that no team has done since Manning entered the league in 1998 … they held his offense to fewer than 10 points in a game played indoors, inside a dome.

    Understand that holding Manning to 7 points or less under any circumstances is pretty rare; until Sunday it had happened only five times in his 249 regular-season starts.

    But Manning’s offense has never scored fewer than 10 inside.

    As the Indianapolis QB from 1998 through 2010 (he missed 2011 with a neck injury) Manning played his home games in a domed stadium. And including some road-dome games played in other venues, his offenses had averaged 27.3 points per game. And with Denver, Manning’s Broncos had scored 72 points in two enclosed games, averaging 36 points.

    So to hold Manning to 7 points under a roof in a climate-controlled setting with no wind, rain, sleet, snow or cold … well, it’s never happened. Not until Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams released the hounds on Manning to sack him twice and pressure him 15 times overall.

    * Williams’ plan was brilliant. He concocted all sorts of ways to repeatedly bring the pressure up the middle, and that’s the best way to get after the immobile Manning. With guys in his face, he can’t see downfield, can’t get away, and can’t release full-stride throws. It keeps him off balance in every conceivable way.

    * It’s fun to watch the players get acclimated to Williams’ system and play the kind of defense we envisioned when Fisher hired Williams as DC.

    * Manning and the Broncos had 11 meaningful possessions Sunday. I didn’t count the two possessions at the end of each half; time had just about expired and the Broncos weren’t trying to score. But on the 11 possessions when they had the ball and were looking to score, the Rams stopped them on 10 of the 11 … in Manning’s long and distinguished history you haven’t seen that very often.

    * That was one of the surprises for me yesterday: that the Rams, led by QB Shaun Hill, scored on six of their 10 meaningful possessions. And that Manning went 1 for 11 in putting points on the board.

    * Another surprise: that the Broncos got fewer QB pressures (only seven) on Hill than the Rams got on Manning. Denver’s offensive line has struggled in the running game, but the Broncos usually keep Manning clean. That wasn’t the case yesterday. The Rams have struggled in their pass protection this season but did an effective job against Denver’s tough front four. Right tackle Joe Barksdale, who had been slumping, had a good bounce-back game against the Broncs.

    * Or course, a lot of the credit for that goes to Hill, who was calm in the pocket, and very aware of what was happening around him. He got the ball out quickly, and that’s a sure way to counter the pass-rush pressure. That’s the difference between the veteran Hill and the young Austin Davis. Young QBs tend to hold onto the ball. They’re inexperienced and don’t go through their progessions as quickly. Hill’s internal clock was sharp; he knew when to unload the ball to prevent a negative play. And this was one of the main reasons for Fisher’s decision to make the change and go with Hill.

    * Kudos to Rams’ offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer who had a smart and effective game plan. First, the Rams didn’t shy away from the run. They made the Broncos account for the run, and that gave Hill a chance to take some shots downfield. The Rams weren’t intimidated by Denver’s top-ranked rushing defense. They calmly fed the ball to rookie RB Tre Mason, who carried 29 times for 113 yards.

    * Obviously the Rams were in position to keep running it; that’s the beauty of taking the lead and keeping it. You can avoid panicking and becoming one-dimensional by throwing it all day in an attempt to play catch-up. But Schottenheimer had the right idea going in, and that’s one of the reasons why the Rams won this one. By running it and mixing in a lot of quick-release short passes, they hogged the ball and built up a big edge in possession time. Which was a significant factor in the Broncos turning into a one-dimensional offense that ran the ball only 10 times.

    * Rams second-year safety T.J. McDonald continued to excel; he made plays all over the field Sunday. In his last three games McDonald has received “plus” grades from Pro Football Focus for his play, and we’re seeing why the Rams coveted McDonald and used a third-round pick to draft him in 2013. McDonald is playing the way his father used to, and Tim McDonald was one helluva safety.

    * Linebacker Alec Ogletree has certainly gotten a lot better … and it happened quickly. He’s really been impressive over the last three games. Pro Football Focus gave Ogletree the highest grade on the Rams’ defense yesterday.

    * And then there’s Rams rookie defensive tackle Aaron Donald. This quick and ferocious wildcat is an exceptional player. I bought tickets for yesterday’s game and had a great corner-view angle of the game, which provided a chance to watch the conflicts on the line of scrimmage. This was Donald’s 10th NFL game, and the Broncos hit him with everything, including double-team blocks and uncalled holding penalties. Donald still managed to invade Denver’s comfort zone. Through the first 11 NFL Weeks, Donald has graded out as the NFL’s second-best defensive tackle; according to Pro Football Focus only Detroit’s Ndamukong Suh is rated above Donald.

    * You just have to love the way rookie CB E.J. Gaines competes. He’s relentless.

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    So I got to meet Jason Brown and found him to be very engaging and talkative about everything but football. I heard through the usual suspects (local reporters) that the team and everyone thought the death of his brother had a profound effect on him and had destroyed his passion for football.

    Jimi, is that part you and not the article?

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    Peter King: MMQB

    http://mmqb.si.com/2014/11/17/nfl-week-11-jonas-gray-patriots/

    Defensive Players of the Week

    Alec Ogletree, linebacker, St. Louis. Roll this around in your head: The St. Louis Rams, who had allowed more than 30 points in six of nine games prior to Sunday, held Peyton Manning and the explosive Broncos to seven at the Edward Jones Dome. In the 22-7 victory, Ogletree was the leader of the pack: 13 tackles, an interception and two passes defensed. Chosen with the Rams’ second first-round pick in 2013, Ogletree is rapidly becoming the kind of pass-rusher and pass-defender every quarterback has to fear. This was his second straight game with a pick.

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    Ten Takeaways from Sunday’s 22-7 Win Over Broncos

    Randy Karraker

    http://www.101sports.com/2014/11/17/ten-takeaways-sundays-22-7-win-denver/

    Denver was favored by 10 points coming into the Edward Jones Dome to face the Rams on Sunday, and pretty much every fan I talked to figured the Broncos would cover that spread by a wide margin. But you never know in the NFL, where the 4-6 Rams have beaten three of last year’s final four, including both Super Bowl participants, in the last five weeks. Here are my 10 main takeaways from the win over the Broncos.

    1. The Broncos had the top rush defense coming into the game, allowing just 67 yards per game.

    The Rams became the third team to rush for over 100 yards against Denver. Kansas City had 133, and Seattle had 129. The Rams ran for 131, with Tre Mason running for 113, becoming the first back to run for more than 100 against the Broncos this year. In its other games, Denver allowed Indianapolis 54 yards, Arizona 37, the Jets 31, San Francisco 62, San Diego 61, New England 66 and Oakland 30. That was the most impressive aspect of the day for the Rams – they got their running game going against the top rushing defense in the league.

    2. Shaun Hill did a great job of leading Kenny Britt on the 63-yard touchdown pass. The Rams needed a big play, and he delivered. Additionally, Hill didn’t turn the ball over. After the calamitous fourth quarter by Austin Davis against Arizona, the Rams needed the quarterback position to settle down, and Hill provided it.

    A workmanlike 20-of-29 for 220 yards, a touchdown and no picks is what the Rams needed.

    3. With the Broncos facing a fourth-and-5 with 1:22 left in the first quarter, Peyton Manning waved the punt team back to the sideline to go for it.

    Manning tried to hit Emmanuel Sanders, but E.J. Gaines broke the pass up. In the fourth quarter, the Broncos gave up the ball on an Alec Ogletree interception, on downs, on a Trumaine Johnson interception and again on downs. That’s five big plays by the Rams’ defense against Manning, including four in the fourth quarter, which is phenomenal. After spending half the season with their linebackers getting only a fumble recovery, in the last two weeks they’ve had 34 tackles, a sack, two interceptions and a forced fumble.

    4. This was the fifth time in 10 games the Rams have scored zero or one touchdown. It’s remarkable that they’ve achieved a 4-6 record with that stat. Against Minnesota the Rams didn’t score a TD, and then at Tampa Bay, Kansas City and San Francisco, and then against Denver, the Rams scored one touchdown – winning against Tampa, the 49ers and the Broncos. The Rams have 3 of their 4 wins scoring one touchdown, but that’s an anomaly.

    They can’t win consistently in the NFL with that sort of offensive production.

    5. While the Broncos’ run defense had been great coming in, the Rams have steadily improved during the season. This may have been the best performance of all. C.J. Anderson ran nine times for 29 yards, and was smothered by the Rams. It got to the point that Manning didn’t even bother with the running game, allowing the St. Louis pass rush to tee off and force the throws that resulted in interceptions.

    6. Speaking of the Rams’ pass rush, it was amazing that Ryan Clady only got called for one holding penalty. He played the same way that Russell Okung of Seattle does, consistently grabbing Quinn around the collarbone and neck and dragging him down. How that isn’t a hold is beyond me, but the league does a great job of protecting Manning and Russell Wilson.

    7. The Rams were only penalized three times.

    There was the bad call of unnecessary roughness against Rodney McCleod. It was a perfectly timed football hit, but those have been legislated out of the NFL. The other penalties were a silly delay of game by Janoris Jenkins for moving the ball from its spot, and offside on a kickoff. The discipline before and after the snap by the offense and defense was superb.

    8. There were three Rams who dressed but didn’t play. Backup quarterback Davis was one. Running back Zac Stacy and linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar, who weren’t on the injury report, were the others.

    It says a lot about the staff’s feelings about Dunbar’s pass defense abilities that he didn’t play. But Stacy will still see action.

    As great as Mason was, he can’t carry the ball 29 times every week.

    9. After missing key field goals against Seattle and Kansas City, and falling to 29th in the league in field-goal accuracy, Greg Zuerlein has hit his last seven attempts, including 55- and 53-yarders against Denver, to get to 20th in accuracy. Zuerlein is not a concern now, as he was earlier in the season.

    10. I mentioned during the pregame show with Anthony Stalter that if the Rams could steal a win against either Denver or San Diego, they’d have a shot at a .500 record. First off, they didn’t have to steal this win. They didn’t have to fake punt or onside kick. On that day, the Rams were better than Denver. At 4-6 right now, the Rams wouldn’t surprise anyone if they beat the Raiders, Redskins, Cardinals and Giants to get to 8-8. The trips to San Diego and Seattle are iffy at best.

    Bonus: In the last two games that Manning has faced a defense coordinated by Gregg Williams (Sunday and Super Bowl XLIV), he’s gone 65-of-99 for 722 yards, but only two touchdowns and three interceptions. Manning has lost both games, with his teams totaling 24 points.

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    Rams head coach Jeff Fisher recaps 22-7 victory over Broncos with Farr, Savard

    Trumaine Johnson Interception – 4th Quarter

    Kenny Britt 63 Yd Touchdown – 1st Quarter

    Greg Zuerlein 55 Yd Field Goal – 4th Quarter

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    Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts recap all the action from St. Louis.

    http://www.rams-news.com/cbs-rams-vs-broncos-booth-recap-video/

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    Isiah58 wrote:
    When the schedule came out, I pointed to this game this week as the surprise win in ’14. I’m sticking with it. Denver is on the third game of a 3 game road trip. The Rams’ defense is growing stronger each game. Rams coming off a three game road trip will play better at home, and defeat the Broncos Sunday. After, everyone will be questioning what happened to the Broncos, just like they did when the Rams beat Seattle and SF.

    Ha!

    Okay. You get extra cake. Or pie. Or both.

    This is sincere…it’s not a quip.

    Except for the fact that the deserts are pictorial and therefore entirely symbolic.

    But still! Cake! Pie!

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    they beat a good team but cant sustain it.

    Can they win two in a row
    against winning teams?

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    Well it’s impossible to win EVERY game. A real Rams fan would understand that.

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    Mason runs it up against league’s top run defense

    By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/mason-runs-it-up-against-league-s-top-run-defense/article_1d420ca1-54e1-516a-8639-7bde13444bfc.html

    Tre Mason never backs down from a challenge, and the rookie running back was more than up to the challenge against the Denver Broncos.

    His first 100-yard rushing game in the NFL, 113 yards on 29 carries, just happened to come against the league’s top-ranked rushing defense.

    “That’s how you have to beat this team,” coach Jeff Fisher said after his Rams stunned Denver 22-7 before a season-high crowd of 59,401 at the Edward Jones Dome.

    So how did Mason do it?

    “Prayers go up, blessings come down,” Mason said.

    And yards pile up.

    Denver (7-3) had been yielding only 67 yards a game on the ground entering Sunday’s game. But Mason said Denver’s credentials only served to motivate him.

    “Oh, of course,” he said. “Every time. That’s been me since high school. When they’re ranked No. 1, that’s when I’ve gotta play good. I love to play big in the big games.”

    The Denver defense had allowed only 11 runs of 10 yards or more all season, but Mason had four such runs Sunday: two for 10 yards, one for 15 yards, and a 27-yard gain that was the Rams’ second-longest run of the season.

    The first 10-yard gain came on the game’s opening possession, which ended in a Greg Zuerlein field goal. The 27-yard carry in the third quarter got the Rams in position for Zuerlein’s third field goal of the day as they took a 16-7 lead.

    Mason made sure to praise his offensive line in the locker room.

    “I could say this every week, and this should go for every running back,” Mason said. “Without those guys up front, any stat that we have is impossible. I love those guys.”

    The feeling is mutual.

    “He has a bright future here,” right guard Davin Joseph said. “He should be here for a very, very long time. Along with Greg Robinson, Rodger Saffold, the entire line. Those guys are out there really blocking hard and making things happen.”

    Over the course of the game, the Denver defense stopped Mason plenty of times for minimal gains or no gain. But the Rams stayed committed to the run, with a season high 33 carries good for a league-high 131 yards.

    “You chip away 1, 2, 3 yards, and then you get one of those 6-, 7-yard runs,” center Scott Wells said.

    Or one of those 10-, 15- or 27-yard runs.

    “And it opened up plays in the passing game as well,” Wells said. “So it was a good game plan.”

    GREG THE LEG

    Since kicking four field goals in a 19-17 victory over Tampa Bay in Game 2, Zuerlein has had a quiet season. But the Rams’ place-kicker made his presence felt against Denver, kicking a career-best five field goals. Those 15 points spelled the difference in a 15-point Rams victory.

    Zuerlein got his leg warmed up with three shorter kicks in the opening three quarters, making field goals of 37, 29 and 22 yards. Then came two long-range boots in the fourth quarter, from 55 and 53 yards to give the Rams some breathing room.

    “It’s just nice getting into a rhythm early on, and then feeling confident throughout the game,” Zuerlein said.

    RAM-BLINGS
    With Denver in so many three-receiver sets and safety Mark Barron being used in some packages, strong side linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar did not see action Sunday. Dunbar has been bothered by a toe injury.

    • After seeing some action on special teams last week in Arizona, running back Zac Stacy did not play. He has not had a carry since Oct. 26 in Kansas City.

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    A few positive thoughts on Shaun Hill:

    — Hill has looked terrific this preseason. Not sure about the unreasonably low expectations for him– if Hill were able to perform like he has this preseason, we’d have a great year.

    — Statistics oddity: Shaun Hill has a higher QBR this preseason than did Sam Bradford. I’m not necessarily saying the QBR is such a great measurement or anything, but still…. just something to keep in mind

    Shaun Hill in 3 preseason games: 8 of 17 for 143 yards 2 TD 0 INT, QBR of 115.5
    Sam Bradford in 2 preseason games:13 of 21 for 178 yds 1 TD 0 INT, QBR of 104.8

    –Went back and re-watched all of Hill’s throws in the games against NO and Cle… just reminded me how much confidence we can have in him. 2 TD drives against NO were things of beauty, he looked so efficient and in command. (His middle drive was blown up by the missed assignment from GRob for the sack)

    –Against CLE had TWO dropped passes– to my eye the 3rd down pass to Kendricks looked pretty catchable. And mainly– his last throw in the Cleveland game was a STRIKE– a perfectly placed throw to Quick, low and well placed where only Quick could catch it, a VERY catchable ball. Quick has been a pleasant surprise so far in 2014, but that throw was definitely one he should have had. So, 2 TD drives against NO, and “should have had” a TD drive against CLE

    –Love how smart Hill is as a QB. The audible on 3rd down for Benny’s wide-open run in the CLE game was beautiful, great call.

    –Also took some time to read some old articles about Shaun Hill (yes, I am a Rams nutcase like so many of y’all on this board). Time and again, I saw a pattern where Hill was one of the “fan favorites”– both Niners fans and Lions fans seemed (for the most part) to be pretty high on the guy. Niners fans and Lions fans both seemed to think he was underrated and they were lucky to have him.

    Here’s a link to a 2009 discussion on a Niners board (Shaun Hill or Alex Smith?)
    http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/3/11/789229/alex-smith-vs-shaun-hill-s

    a couple highlights in the comments section:

    1. Hill makes quick decisions and gets the ball out fast, so sack rate tends to go down

    2. Great leadership, tough, smart

    3. Doesn’t look pretty but is a winner

    article about Lions fans sad to lose Shaun Hill:

    http://oplions.blogspot.com/2014/03/detroit-lions-shaun-hill-will-be-tough.html

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    Rams’ defense hands out punishment

    Joe Strauss

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/joe-strauss/strauss-rams-defense-hands-out-punishment/article_c70dc34f-12c8-56f2-b789-a7503e17991c.html

    They acquired a high-profile coordinator and a young defensive backfield with attitude. They rediscovered Sack City earlier this month. Their linebackers finally have found a comfort zone in a scheme that has no time for a second thought.

    Sunday afternoon the Rams worked them all into a bad-ass performance against the baddest offense in the league and came away with a 22-7 statement.

    The Rams brought the pain, swung the hammer, delivered a spanking and performed virtually every other description of violence the Denver Broncos and gilded quarterback Peyton Manning could imagine.

    It’s only a rumor the Rams keep reporters a safe distance from practice to protect virgin ears. Coordinator Gregg Williams offers little forgiveness during the week while demanding fast, faster and fastest from his guys. If the air turns a little blue, tough. It helps the weekend product. Bruised by Sunday’s St. Louis experience, the Broncos can testify to its effectiveness.

    “That offense knows if you throw that ball up you’re going to feel it,” said Rams safety T.J. McDonald.

    Last month’s Welcome Wagon has turned mean. The Rams prevented an allegedly unstoppable offense from taking a snap inside their 28-yard line while holding it to a lonesome touchdown. They didn’t just contain the Broncos, they punished them.

    “You bring a new coach in and things tend to go slow at first,” said second-year linebacker Alec Ogletree, who spiced Sunday’s win with a monster performance. “As you stay with it, things speed up. We’ve got a lot of great athletes on this team. When you have that, you can play fast.”

    In three November games the Rams’ defense has surrendered 37 points. The Broncos entered Sunday scoring 31.8 points per tilt. They left town with their lowest regular-season point total in 42 games since Jan. 1, 2012. Tim Tebow quarterbacked that day against Kansas City.

    Through September and October the Rams looked at least a half-step slow on defense. They too often failed to keep up with receivers, too often were out of position and too often got plowed by the run.

    “What’s important to us is the way we’re playing now, and we’re playing better,” said coach Jeff Fisher, who thought Sunday as complete a game as he’s witnessed as Rams coach. “I think the younger guys are more familiar with what we’re doing. I think … Gregg understands who he’s working with.”

    “The scheme is built so that if everyone is on the same page you can play really fast,” explained middle linebacker James Laurinaitis, who sacked Manning on the final play of the third quarter. “Gregg always says, ‘A slow correct decision is still a wrong decision.’ He doesn’t want you to be thinking, ‘Well, technically I’m supposed to be here.’ If you do that slowly he’s still going to grade you down because he wants you playing fast.

    “I think the last few weeks we’ve been able to come in, play extremely fast, trust each other and know that we don’t have to be perfect. Let’s just be aggressive and physical. The light bulb is kind of switched on, but we have to keep that thing on. I don’t want it to (burn) out.”

    Opponents gashed the Rams for 4.67 yards per rush and 144.3 rushing yards per game during a 2-4 start. Now more stout than stiff, the Rams have since confined three teams that won double-digit games last season to an average 2.57 yards a carry and less than 86 rushing yards a game.

    Before the Rams stunned the 49ers on the road they owned the league’s lowest combination of sacks and interceptions (nine). With Sunday’s two sacks and two picks of Manning, a team that dressed up as an easy defensive mark for Halloween has 13 sacks and three interceptions in its last three games. In other words, the Rams are finally playing to their brash coordinator’s reputation.

    “Not taking anything away from their offense, you can credit their defense,” assessed Broncos coach John Fox, his reigning AFC champions now 2-3 on the road this season.

    “We’re a physical team,” insisted defensive end Eugene Sims. “Most people don’t think that. But when they see our identity on film they know different.”

    The Broncos like to run no-huddle, fast-break offense. Manning is the maestro of the audible, gesturing while stepping up and back from his line. The Rams typically employ two or three defensive checks per game. Sunday they brought seven or eight by Laurinaitis’ count. The Broncos took only 66 offensive snaps — the same number the Cardinals ran the previous week, only four more than the 49ers ran two weeks before.

    Manning is the greatest regular-season quarterback in league history, but on Sunday in probably his last performance at the Edward Jones Dome, he looked ordinary and frustrated.

    A play-changing surgeon who specializes in the unexpected, Manning found himself narrowed to throwing the ball on his team’s final 29 plays. “I don’t feel like I carried my weight today,” he said.

    Once Greg Zuerlein, who had 16 points, kicked the Rams to a two-possession lead, the Broncos defined one-dimensional. The Broncos called their final running play with 7:49 left in the third quarter and the Rams ahead 13-7.

    Two weeks ago the 49ers admitted after a 13-10 loss that the Rams’ defensive line manhandled them in an eight-sack effort against the mobile Colin Kaepernick. Arizona’s Carson Palmer didn’t last three quarters before suffering a left ACL tear. Sunday at the orange-tinted Edward Jones Dome ended Manning’s NFL record of 15 consecutive games with multiple touchdown passes.

    Ogletree has gone from lost in space to a force in the past month. He intercepted a pass for the second straight week, conspired on 13 tackles and knocked down a fourth-down pass to effectively squash any lingering hope for a Broncos comeback.

    A team embarrassingly prone to poor discipline and catastrophic mistakes in most of its six losses implemented a perfect game plan Sunday. Cornerback Trumaine Johnson intercepted Manning and defensed three other passes. Rookie cornerback E.J. Gaines proved more than a nuisance with eight tackles and two passes defensed. Free safety Rodney McLeod leveled Broncos wideout Emanuel Sanders with a second-quarter shoulder hit that left Manning’s deep threat with a concussion and McLeod potentially fined. Of the Broncos’ 34 receptions, three went for more than 20 yards, just one for more than 30.

    Effective defense is fast, punishing and painful. Ballet is for the other side of the ball. Tough guys don’t dance. The Rams didn’t two-step Sunday.

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    The Rams were pretty good against Seattle, too, except Wilson got loose for some big runs.

    Yeah.

    But that was because of the OLD Ogletree. g

    You know, before the change. g

    .

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    As long as we are talking defensive numbers.

    Ever since the KC game, Rams have tightened up against the run.

    SF: 21 carries, 80 yards (and they are 9th in rushing yards)
    ARZ: 22 carries, 28 yards (though they were 29th in rushing yards)
    DEN: 10 caries, 28 yards (though they were 25th in rushing yards)
    ttl: 53, 136 = 2.6 YPA

    Right now the defenses with the best YPC numbers are Seattle, Detroit, and Denver, all of whom are tied with 3.2 YPC.

    (Though, the Rams offense just put up 131 yards on Denver with a 4.0 YPC.)

    That will be tested in the future by Seattle, since they are right now 1st in rushing yards and yards per attempt.

    Every other team the Rams will play is mediocre to bad at running the ball.

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