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The St. Louis Rams Would Be Worth $2.5-3.5 Billion The Moment They Moved To Los Angeleshttp://www.businessinsider.com
The NFL is now closer to moving back to Los Angeles with news that St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke plans to build an 80,000-seat stadium in Inglewood, a move that would more than double the value of his franchise.
In the latest valuations released by Forbes.com, the Rams were dead-last, with a value of $930 million. Meanwhile, teams in the top-5 TV markets (L.A. is no. 2) all rank among the eight most valuable teams with an average value of $2.11 billion and those numbers are almost certainly on the conservative side as the Cowboys are probably worth closer to $5 billion.
The Buffalo Bills, valued just above the Rams at $940 million, recently sold for $1.4 billion. If teams in the top-5 TV markets are undervalued at the same rate, they would be worth $2.54-4.79 billion with an average of $3.16 billion and there is no reason to think an L.A. team wouldn’t be at the upper-end of that range.
So, while a new stadium may cost Kroenke $1 billion to build, he will more than make up for it with the increase in the value of the Rams alone.

wvParticipanthttp://www.rams-news.com/jim-thomas-rams-report-audio-2/
JT on the issues of the Day (JT starts at 30 min mark)“pretty sad whats going on, for St.Louis…”
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wvParticipantDunno if this has been posted:
http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/STLSports/STLRams/tabid/137/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/15922/Peacock-Blitz-to-Present-St-Louis-Stadium-Plan-to-Nixon-on-Friday.aspx
Former Anheuser-Busch executive Dave Peacock and Clayton attorney Bob Blitz, heads of the St. Louis stadium task force, have released a statement in response to news Rams owner Stan Kroenke plans to build a new stadium Inglewood, Calif….see link
=======================Bernie on the LA issue:
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bernie-miklasz/bernie-is-st-louis-in-or-out-as-an-nfl/article_11eae05a-e972-5864-84bc-94101f4277ae.htmlw
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wvParticipantI dunno what to make of any of this. This guy says he has ‘sources’
that say Kroenke told the LA Mayor he was moving the team to LA
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2320097-insider-buzz-kroenke-says-rams-are-moving-to-la-with-or-without-nfls-approval
wvParticipant2015 NFL Draft: Huskies LB/RB Shaq Thompson headed to the NFL
By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
January 5, 2015 12:34 pm ETShaq Thompson scored four defensive touchdowns in 2014. (Getty Images)Shaq Thompson scored four defensive touchdowns in 2014. (Getty Images)
Washington linebacker Shaq Thompson announced Monday morning that he will skip his senior season and enter the 2015 NFL Draft. The junior also played offense for the Huskies, but his NFL future is expected to be on defense.
Thompson is currently ranked as the No. 10 overall prospect by NFLDraftScout.com and the top-ranked linebacker in the upcoming class. He is a projected top-15 pick with the versatility to fit any defensive scheme.
“I feel that I have accomplished a lot here in these past three years, and I’m so thankful to everyone for helping me achieve my goals,” said Thompson in a statement. “Now I’m looking forward to achieving a new set of goals, facing new challenges that come with being in the NFL. I’m excited to start the draft process, the next chapter in my life, but will forever and always be a Husky!”
Thompson was a two-way player for the Huskies in 2014, starring at linebacker on defense and running back on offense. He finished his junior year with 81 total tackles, three forced fumbles and four fumble recoveries, adding 463 rushing yards on offense and six total touchdowns (four on defense, two on offense). Thompson earned First Team All-Pac 12 and All-American honors and won the Paul Hornung Award as college football’s most versatile performer.
“Shaq Thompson has been a wonderful representative of the University of Washington and the Husky football team, and he has our full support as he takes this important step,” said Coach Chris Petersen said. “I look forward to what’s to come for him and to watching him embark on what will be a long, successful NFL career.”
Breaking him down as a NFL prospect, Thompson is an above average athlete with the pursuit speed to chase down ballcarriers and the closing burst and veracity to be a fierce finisher. He trusts what he sees and plays with excellent ball instincts, tearing through blocks to show up at the ball. Thompson does a nice job with his strike zone to wrap and finish as a tackler, using proper technique by distributing power through his hips. He does need to improve his take-on strength to better stack and shed blockers, but Thompson understands field leverage and aggressively attacks at the point of attack, making it tough to contain him.
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wvParticipantGood post WV. I disagree with Farmer in that I think this is a done deal.
1. Kroenke is not stupid. He would not just make this move without acknowledgement from the league.
2. Could be Kroenke has agreed to be the heavy in this scenario so the league doesn’t take a beating PR wise.People in STL need to stop rationalizing this and accept what is happening.
Grits
Well, i got no idea what’s goin on, LoL.
I’m just gonna sit here in West, by god, Virginia
and eat popcorn, and wait and see.w
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wvParticipantRob Rang Mock
10. St. Louis Rams – La’el Collins, OL, LSU: The Rams boast one of the league’s fastest defenses, but one-dimensional teams won’t be successful in the highly competitive NFC West. With a steep drop-off at quarterback following Mariota and Winston, the Rams might be best served again rolling the dice with Sam Bradford and Shaun Hill in 2015. Massive LT Greg Robinson showed flashes of why the Rams invested the No. 2 overall selection in him in 2014 and the Rams will have veteran Jake Long returning from injury in 2015. The interior, however, was a mess for St. Louis. Collins starred at left tackle for LSU but projects best to guard. His brute strength and tenacity make him one of the draft’s elite run blockers.
11. Minnesota Vikings – Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame: Current LT Matt Kalil struggled in 2014 and the Vikings may elect to draft someone to push him. Stanley is just a redshirt sophomore in his first season at left tackle, but the 6-6, 315-pounder boasts an exciting combination of agility, balance and power. Improving at left guard would make sense, as well, especially given the deep drops and power running game offensive coordinator Norv Turner prefers.
12. Cleveland Browns — Andrus Peat, OT, Stanford: As the only team with two first-round picks, the Browns have a lot of flexibility, including potentially making a good offensive line one of the league’s elite. A star left tackle for the Cardinal, Peat is blessed with remarkable balance and agility for a man of his 6-7, 315-pound dimensions. He would provide an upgrade over Mitchell Schwartz at right tackle and could be groomed to eventually take over for perennial Pro Bowler Joe Thomas.
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The NFL is getting closer to returning to Los Angeles.Major news in the NFL-returns-to-L.A. saga early Monday morning. The Los Angeles Times reports that Rams owner Stan Kroenke is planning to build an NFL stadium in Inglewood. Kroenke is teaming up with Stockbridge Capital Group, which owns the 238-acre Hollywood Park site, to build an 80,000-seat stadium and a 6,000-seat performance venue as part of a major retail-office-residential development, which is being dubbed the City of Champions Revitalization Project.
News of the development will put pressure on the city of St. Louis, which owns the outdated Edward Jones Dome. The Rams can convert their lease there to year-to-year next month and leave as early as the end of the 2015 season.
This doesn’t necessarily mean the Rams are moving to Los Angeles—yet. Shortly after the story broke this morning, I spoke with veteran Times NFL reporter Sam Farmer, who has covered the story of the NFL’s flirtations with Los Angeles since 2000.
The MMQB: How is this different from all the other proposals for returning a team to Los Angeles over the last 20 years?
Farmer: This is appreciably different than all the other concepts that have come and gone—the two dozen or so viable proposals. This is different, because it’s an existing owner with a site that can accommodate a stadium and all the parking and retail and a 6,000-seat theater. It’s a game-changer, because there hasn’t been a current owner who can identify a site and make it happen. If this were a game of Clue, we’d already have two of the answers—the who and the where. This is not a done deal. But this is the first major step toward returning the NFL to Los Angeles, and it could trigger a land rush between the Rams, Chargers and Raiders to all try to get to the market first.
How likely is it that St. Louis has lost the Rams?
Farmer: It would certainly be pins and needles time for the city of St. Louis. The city has to come back by the end of the month [of January] with a serious proposal to keep the Rams. That’s when the Rams can roll over the lease to a year-to-year deal. This move ratchets up the pressure on the city of St. Louis and will smoke out the city’s best deal. This is a dramatic, bold and aggressive move toward the nation’s second-largest market, and a market that had the Rams for decades. And it’s the second-richest owner in the league, with deep ties to Los Angeles, who has a history of making bold and aggressive moves like this one. So St. Louis certainly should be concerned.
When is the earliest the Rams could play in L.A.?
Farmer: 2016. They could conceivably play in the new stadium by 2018—but they won’t put shovels in the ground for the stadium until they get the Environmental Impact Report done, which is all the legal, environmental and political clearances to build the stadium. The earliest that could happen would probably be early in 2016.
Where would the Rams play until 2018, if they move?
Farmer: I think it’s most likely the [Los Angeles] Coliseum. But I wouldn’t rule out the Rose Bowl.
More possible in Los Angeles: one NFL team or two?
Farmer: The concept of dropping two teams into the city simultaneously is very difficult. Two teams at once might be overwhelming. The first team would be so much better off in Los Angeles. Would the second team basically want to be the Jets playing in Giants Stadium? The first team is much more enticing. My expectation is you wouldn’t see two teams for a while.
mmqb.si.com
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wvParticipantWell Earl Morrall is out for the Colts
so I dont think they are going anywhere
with this Luck kid.w
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wvParticipantCarrol tore up his team and started over.
Harbaugh just plain inherited a good team…vets…
Fisher intended to build around a core of inherited players. They were young.So to me that’s 3 different situations
combined with 3 different approaches.So Harbaugh “Loaded Up.”
Carrol “Rebuilt”
Fisher “Built around a young core”A reasonable view, imho.
Some posters obviously label the Fisher
approach/situation differently. Mostly
its semantics, probly. I can certainly see
how some posters would call what Fisher did
a ‘rebuild.’ I can also see how it could
be viewed as a “build-around-young-core” when
compared to what Carrol did.w
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wvParticipantSo do you think this means that Fisher and Harbaugh took over already rising teams and that Carroll came in when the team was at rock bottom?
Or do you think Carroll is an egomaniac and just blew it up to reform it in his own image?
Or, is the real question how many of those 8 pre-Fisher Rams will still be on the roster in two years?Well to me it just means Carroll has done
a great job of building a great team.
And he didnt have the RG3 windfall either.Still we dont know the future. Maybe
these young rams will win multiple Rings.
Who knows.w
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wvParticipantWho knows what they would have done and where they would have gone
if Spags had stayed…either way I had no problem with SK putting his own guy in. Might as well.You know one small thing Spags and Fisher had in common? Spag’s great Giants superbowl defense was built around the DL, and his DL coach was Mike Waufle. Waufle then comes to the Rams when Fisher gets hired. Interesting, hunh.
Didnt know that about Waufle.
…Fans (me included) have a very hard time
accounting for injuries and key-injuries. We all know
examples of teams (Pats – Belichick playing WRs in the secondary)
overcoming injuries, so we tend to think every team
“ought” to be able to “overcome injuries.”
Fans love to rail about “the injury excuse!”
Fans of teams that have losing seasons year after
year after year after year after year after year —
ESPECIALLY dont want to hear about injuries.But one only has to look at the Bruce Arians team
to see the effect of one or two key injuries.I got no ‘final conclusions’ about the topic
of ‘injuries’. Its a difficult subject.
It kilt Spags, though.w
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wvParticipantwv wrote:
Apparently Spags did a great job with that group. I didnt know
he had that job. I wonder if he’ll ever be a head coach again.Do you like Fisher better as a coach or Spags ?
Spags did a great job–they fixed the entire secondary while playing week to week. Stewart even played well enough to start. Baltimore, I think, has a history of fixing things on the move. So for example, their superbowl year, they shifted the OL around just before the playoffs, and it paid off. I don’t think I have seen anyone do that before.
Of the 2, JF and SS, I like Fisher better. In comparison, Spags made too many “first time head coach” mistakes.
I think for sure Spags will be a coordinator again, and yes sooner or later a head coach. As you know, I think most anti-Spags stuff comes from just overlooking the incredible, dire effect the 2011 injuries had on everything. Plus it followed doing well in 2010. If there’s one thing that riles fans up, it’s raising their expectations and then stumbling. It brings out the “you are dead to me” mode in a lot of fans.
I agree with all that.
The ram players played hard for Spags.
Thats something that gets overlooked sometimes.Sometimes Owners just want to recharge
the fanbase. Bringing in a new Head Coach
can do that, to state the obvious.w
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wvParticipantThats a nice video. Nice speech
by Scott at the end of the vid.w
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wvParticipantExcept for the secondary they weren’t key players. Though they also have depth I think.
Apparently Spags did a great job with that group. I didnt know
he had that job. I wonder if he’ll ever be a head coach again.Do you like Fisher better as a coach or Spags ?
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wvParticipantBenny was decisive. He cuts quickly without hesitation. He breaks arm tackles. I really liked the way he developed. The bad part, though, is that he’s always a risk to fumble, imo.
I like his ‘power’ as a returner.
Reminiscent of Cullen Bryant.
(An old LA player –before your time, Dak 🙂 )w
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wvParticipantRams-related notes:
Another–Darian Stewart starts in the Ravens secondary. Their secondary coach? Spags.
Actually there’s a story there because apparently Spags brought the Rams injury curse with him.
Because of injuries, 7 different players started at corner for the Ravens this year, and 4 different players started at safety. Most teams don’t even carry 7 corners. I don’t know how many different secondary combinations they fielded, but it was a lot. All things considered they played well tonight against the Steelers 2nd ranked passing offense. In fact in tonight’s game, only 1 of the starting DBs was the week 1 starter (Stewart) and he missed time during the season too.
Ram43 noted that Al Michaels observed
the Raven had Eighteen players on IR
this year.
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/team/roster.htmlWhich means either they werent key players
or their personnel dept is great
cause they had a lot of Depth.w
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wvParticipantEven The Rain.
I enjoyed this one. Its not perfect,
but its quite good. Its almost impossible to write a ‘political’
movie without sometimes gettin a tad preachy,
but this movie does a pretty good job.In the opening credits,
It was dedicated to
Howard Zinn, btw.
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Rampage2K — (On Arians and the Cards losing to Carolina)“Down to his third string QB, a few bad calls and this is what happens
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wvParticipant“Cincinnati over Indianapolis: Well, I couldn’t go with all the home teams, could I? Yes, yes I could have. But I don’t really feel good taking either of these teams here given the Bengals’ playoff struggles and the Colts’ recent struggles. To me, this comes down to which team can run the ball consistently, and that looks like a no-brainer. Rookie Jeremy Hill should be the difference in a game in which the outcome will not surprise me.”
Is there ever any reason
to take either of those teams
seriously in the Playoffs?w
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wvParticipantwv wrote:
….did i hear right? ..did he play on the offensive line as well?Yes, but, it sounded like he meant for the scout team.
Well how many QBs do you know
who played OLine for the scout team?w
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wvParticipant….did i hear right? ..did he play on the offensive line as well?
wvParticipantI think yall
are being debby-downers.
I mean, what about Frank Gore?
He’s got, like, 40 inch hands.Seriously, if they can sign
a Stud OLineman, and draft a Stud Olineman
then it might not matter who is QB.
They can be the 2001 Ravens
or the 2002 Bucs.
I mean, most of Hill’s
screwups were when he was
under pressure. So, just
eliminate the pressure.w
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wvParticipantummmmm…
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reality and then depression sink in…
Maybe its not so bad. What if
they can talk Orten into playing
one more year? Hoyer has looked
ok when he’s had a running game.
Vick might be interesting.
Locker is intriguing.
Matt Flynn?w
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wvParticipantBash on, regardless.
I’m a skeptic of “injury prone.” Bradford will be ready for the start of the season, and he is as likely to play all season as any other QB. I will be more nervous about him than a Packers fan is about Rodgers because of his history, but that’s just emotional history clouding my perception, imo. I am not convinced that logically there is reason to fear he won’t make it.
So… Bradford + Reinforced OL = Playoffs.
I also think that – with a good off-season and another year of training camp – Aaron Donald might justify his draft position next year, and finally prove he belongs in the NFL. Call me crazy, but that’s a gut feeling I do trust.
I dont know how you can be skeptical about
Bradford’s “injury-proneness”.
He gets injured just by planting his foot
in the turf. He gets injured by running
to the sideline. He missed an entire season
at Oklahoma. He’s had ankle issues.He is no Cal Ripkin.
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wvParticipantThem first two links go to other places.
The JT audio is here.
http://theramshuddle.com/topic/jim-thomas-on-920-12/
special teams article is here:
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wvParticipantA mock. Maybe Ag already posted this:
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2014/12/29/7464279/2015-nfl-mock-draft-rams-greg-robinson-lael-collins
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vJanuary 2, 2015 at 10:47 pm in reply to: who are the best 6 OLs this year & how were they built? #15395
wvParticipantwv wrote:
sometimes i get an inkling that a lot of fans
think “you dont take a center in the first round”from an earlier post, now on page 2
I look at the top 12 graded guards and top 12 graded centers according to PFF, and check into how they’re acquired.
CENTER: 4 lower 1st round picks (18th, 21st, 29th, 31st); 2 2nd round picks; a 5th round pick; 2 6th round picks; 1 low-market free agent (avg. 0.795 a year), and 1 converted guard/ronin type.
I will say this about center. If someone is taken after round 2 or comes in as a ronin, usually they develop on the bench before starting. So this list says that if you need a center NOW, you need to use a low 1st or a 2nd round pick.
Well since wv ram
is in Win-Yesterday-Mode,
I say they trade down into the back of the first round.
Pick up an extra 2 or 3.
Then pick the best available Center-Guard with the first pick.
Then pick the best available Center-Guard with the second pick.
Then pick a QB.
Then throw all kinds of money towards bounties
and bribing refs and filming the seahawks practices.w
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wvParticipantAnd a tebow spread vs pro
article just for Mack
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20090424/ARTICLES/904239905?Title=Will-spread-hurt-Tebow-“…Not necessarily so, says Rich Rodriguez, whose spread offense nearly had West Virginia playing for a national title in 2007 — the year before he left for Michigan.
“People are looking at it the wrong way,” Rodriguez said. “Instead of looking at the system, they should look at the individuals they’re saying didn’t make it.”
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wvParticipantyeah. at first glance there doesn’t seem to be a russell wilson type guy in this draft.
i mean he didn’t just play in a pro-style offense. he dominated in a pro-style offense.
he averaged 10.3 yards per attempt and threw 33 touchdowns on just 309 attempts and had a 72.8% completion rate.
domination.
Well how bout if they just draft
Wisconsin QBs until they
hit on one that can play.Oh, and why dont you
do a search of
“pro-style, college quarterbacks” with “eleven inch hands” 🙂PS — who runs pro-style offenses?
Fwiw — others have asked and answered that:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35429w
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