bnw wrote:

Transportation of crude should be by pipeline.

The duck saving logic is sound. Not so sure the extent of fish kill can be adequately ascertained. Nice thing about professionals is that you can always buy the testimony you need.

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What do you think about the future of alternative energies? Solar, Wave, Geothermal, etc?
What do you think of Nuclear power?

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Bettis, Everett, or MJ-Drew. Interesting.

It would be interesting to get Everett’s thots about Goff.

Bettis has a fun personality. Dunno anything about Drew.

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Enh, Dickerson has never struck me as a good communicator.

I’d rather see JYBlood as the player-analyst.

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Ozoneranger wrote:

“Inherited background advantages”?

What the hell is that?

Anyway, I disagree, mostly. We as a society created an infrastructure to lift and grow the society. And that takes risk as well as hard work on the individual’s part. I know. In addition to working full time while I went to school, I also drained a mutual fund while I completed my industry certs. By the time I found my first IT job, we had $1100 in our checking account. We were that close to bankruptcy. My wife didn’t even know about this.

So by your logic, flirting with bankruptcy was a team effort with “institutional policies”? And had I failed, would it have been entirely on me? Can’t have it both ways…

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I agree with zack, Ozone. But I dont expect you to agree on this. What is being discussed here is one of the core, fundamental differences between themz-that-are-on-the-Left,
and themz-that-are-on-the-right. We iz getn to the crux of it, right here.

So, if actual communication is truly desired…everyone slow down, and post carefully, and listen hard.

Coz this is really difficult to converse about.

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zn wrote:

The American government provided low-interest loans to returning veterans and other white Americans after World War II. This created a boom in home ownership and helped suburbanize America, but blacks were excluded from participating….When the government instituted rental housing in inner cities, in the form of public housing projects, for poor minorities, and then developed home ownership in low-cost, suburban communities for low-income whites, where you could put almost nothing down, they created this incredible wealth gap.

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Yeah, see that is what interests ‘me’. That part of the ‘racism’ conversation.
I’m just not, personally interested in the ‘why do white cops do this or that to black people’ part of it.

Personally, I’m way more interested in the history of ‘economic racism’. Cause i think
thats the most fruitful place to ‘start’. Things flow from there. White people think this or that group of blacks is poor because the are ‘lazy’ or inferior etc. Well no. Study the actual history of wealth-class in America…..know the history.

Do people know the history? No. So that then leads to the conversation about ‘education’ in this corporotacracy. Why isn’t that history taught in grade school? What is taught instead? Etc.

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PA Ram wrote:

I do appreciate the police though–the good ones. Society could not work without them.

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Well, i appreciate plumbers. And teachers. And social workers. And used-book-store operators. And oceanographers. …and cops, too. But the thing is…there is an ‘element’ in police-world that annoys the hell out of me. Usually part of that element involves the F.O.P. spokespeople. Its the element that demands Unconditional support. They whine way too much for my taste. I mean, if you became a cop you wanted the job. You know its dangerous at times, and you know its thankless at times….blah blah blah. But you wanted it. So, dont be whining for Unconditional Support. Sometimes it just seems like a lot of cops seem like big babies if cop-world gets any serious criticism. Bnw would say, “buck up”… Yada yada yada…

I mean, I’m a lawyer, but i dont run around asking/demanding everyone love lawyers.
Hell, i dont like’em myself. …what was my point? I forget.

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I dunno. I got nuthin.

But i do find it interesting how technology is bringing all of this stuff
onto our computer screens. I mean everyone in America has a camera-phone now.
I’m sure the police and the nonpolice
are aware they are almost always on camera.

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zn wrote:

Samuel Jackson

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OMG, that was awesome.

And I’ve been complaining about not enuff dragon-time
since the show began.

Yeah, i woulda made it about the fuckin DRAGONS
if’n it had been my game….

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Zooey wrote:

Well, his options were to 1) do nothing, 2) run with Stein, 3) endorse Hillary.

None of those are good options, but #1 accomplishes nothing but makes him appear spineless, #2 at best pulls the DNC to the left in 2020 but probably at the expense of a Trump presidencty, and #3 lives to fight another day. And he was going to have to fight another day even if he was elected president because none of his proposals were going to become reality without continuous fighting. It was a pragmatic choice, however tough to swallow.

I saw about 3 minutes of Hillary’s speech, and she sounded a lot like Bernie.

What becomes of all of that after the election is uncertain, of course. And given Hillary’s track record, she ain’t likely to fight hard for any of it. But Bernie at least has some status within the senate now to the point other politicians will have to listen to what he says.

And that’s the upshot. That’s what he won. And as insufficient as it is, it is a higher waterline than we have seen in 50 years in this country.

So…thanks, Bernie.

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Well said.

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“We know what we are, but not what we may be.”
― William Shakespeare

So, what would spawn a parade?

8 wins?
9 wins?

What if they win 7 again? Would that earn Fisher
a nick-name?

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