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  • in reply to: time to take the political compass poll again #45625
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    I decided that I’m not only going to vote for Dr Jill Stein, but I’m gonna donate enough to get a t-shirt so I can wear it around town.

    Do Greenies make cool Tees? I’ll wear a whack Tee, but it’d obviously be better if it were cooler.

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    Yeah, after the Calif result, I guess its time i took down my Bernie sign, and made a big green Jill sign.

    Maybe I’ll get a Tee shirt too. Or maybe I’ll just get some green textile paint
    and a white shirt and make my own. Maybe have a green paint party.

    bnw has to be loving this — we’re gonna get Trump elected, LoL.

    Well, so be it.

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    • This reply was modified 9 years, 11 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: time to take the political compass poll again #45624
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    … Romney wasn’t a conservative either. To someone as far away from the center as you Obama and Romney appear conservative but not to a conservative voter.

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    Well the leftists here agree — Obama has been a monumental fuck-up.

    Now think about that. To the LEFTISTS here we agree. Obama has been a total fuck up.

    Now, how do you account for that. The Leftists dont like Obama. Or Clinton.

    What does that tell you about the difference between a Democrat/liberal
    and…a…”huddle-board-Leftist” ?

    I can see how you would interpret things as Obama not being a “conservative” btw. I can see that. You are more of a Pat Buchanon / Donald Trump person, right? Obama does have plenty of differences from Trump/Buchanon.

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    in reply to: time to take the political compass poll again #45623
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    We can probably thank the Soviet Union in general, and Lenin and the Bolsheviks, in particular, for a great deal of the distortions. If, for instance, mainstream Marxist, socialist and communist traditions had won out there, instead of right-Marxist Bolsheviks, history may well have seen a large scale demonstration of left-anarchism, which is anti-authoritarian by nature. ..

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    I think thats probly true.

    Stalin, Lenin, really gave the ‘left’ a bad name.

    And the Corporate-capitalist propagandists have been pounding away
    at the idea that THAT is what socialism IS, for decades.
    And they have succeeded beautifully in persuading Joe and Jane American
    that, there’s only one kind of socialism and its “godless and evil”.

    Its as if everyone believed there was only one kind of “Christianity”
    and that was the kind the Ku Klux Klan believed in. Rather than, say, the Quakers, or Unitarians, etc.

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    in reply to: time to take the political compass poll again #45621
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    The usual. Left-libertarian.

    Your Political Compass
    Economic Left/Right: -9.63
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92

    There were some questions (as always) where I didnt really like any of the answers.
    For example this one —
    “There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures.”

    I think ALL peoples have savage AND civilized aspects to their cultures,
    but as to whether some cultures are ‘worse’ than others….man, that is a tough call for me.
    I think about that one every single day. How do we weigh different aspect of culture. How do we weigh, say, genital mutilation versus cluster-bombing civilians? How do we weigh heavy-patriarchy versus head-shrinking? Toxic-waste versus collateral damage? Etc, etc, etc.

    I dunno. I’m open to the idea that some cultures are better than others. But I’m also open to the idea that that is not true. And I’m open to the idea that its an unknowable issue.

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    The Rams need to make the playoffs for Jeff Fisher. If they don’t, I cannot see why Fisher would deserve a new contract. Another losing season, for me, should be looking for a new Head Coach. One that wins.

    I doubt that’s the way Stan is thinking.

    And I submit to you that no coach wins if he has to deal with the kinds of things thet Rams have had to deal with the last 2 years.

    .

    Dick Vermeil won in ’99.

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    Well to ‘me’ DV is a perfect example of what a coach can and cant do.
    DV won four games in 97. Four games in 98. He was a great coach. Still couldn
    t even win half his games.

    In 99 he had
    a hall of fame QB,
    two hall of fame WRs,
    a hall of fame OT,
    and a hall of fame RB.

    And most importantly, he had a team that
    didnt have key injuries all year long. Very very healthy team.

    Now, give Fisher five hall of famers, and a healthy team all season long,
    and I’d bet he’d at least win ten games 🙂

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    in reply to: LA Times on Rams DL #45599
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    Well, if each is healthy I guess it will be the best DLine
    the Rams have had since the GSOT.

    Should be fun to watch. Teams had better not fall behind the Rams
    or get in third and long too much.

    OTOH, can the Rams stop the quick, short pass-attack?

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    in reply to: Rams waive Bailey #45595
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    Well, i think mostly he’s a good example of what NOT to do
    for the young players. He can talk to them about not
    taking unauthorized drugs, etc.

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    in reply to: Rams sign QB Dylan Thompson #45562
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    Dylan Thompson. I dunno, he sounds like a folk singer.

    Maybe Fisher is stuck in the 6o’s.

    It makes me question the whole entire new offense.

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    in reply to: Nick Hanauer On Bill Maher #45549
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    Damn. That was pretty good. Even some of the richest corporate-capitalists
    are noticing how extreme capitalism has gotten in Amerika.

    That means things are beyond bad.

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    Well, i dunno. Its the same view Vegas has. I think the Rams are only
    favored in six games. That’d make’em 6-10.

    6-10 is a reasonable forecast. Its not batshit crazy or anythin.

    7-9 is reasonable. 8-8.

    But so is 9-7. And maybe even 10-6.

    I just think it could play out a lot of different ways
    this year. Lots of Talent. Lots of Question marks. Rookie, talented QB.

    Biggest Question mark on D, for me, is Quinn. If he is back to being a Beast
    it makes a huge huge difference. The D dont need a secondary if Q and A
    are playing beastly.

    Biggest reason for optimism is the OLine. Looks like the most settled OLine
    in many years. Gurley should be better. So, they could grind out some tough wins.

    I could see ten wins and a wild-card, if everything falls the right way.

    I could also see an up and down, messy, inconsistent year with the New receivers and a rookie QB.

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    in reply to: I did a DNA Test #45486
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    That’s fun. How much are those tests?

    I bet I am part malamute.

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    in reply to: shelf clouds (pics and vids) #45485
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    Not that rare in the midwest and south.

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    What state do you live in?

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    As I’ve written before, Tennessee.

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    I’ve never been to Tennessee.

    What’s the prettiest geographic-spot in Tennessee?

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    in reply to: 2016 Los Angeles Rams Sign DL Cam Thomas #45484
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    Well frankly i think its just what the Rams DLine needed.

    A big fat run-stuffer for clutch short yardage situations.

    I think he’ll be a more important factor than
    folks think.

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    weird hand-gesture vid

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    LoL, ok, i’m sorry but i just couldn’t get past that guy’s
    weird, awkward, mechanical, hand-gestures.

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    in reply to: RIP Muhammad ali #45447
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    I became a boxing fan because of Ali and I stopped being one when he retired. He was the brightest star during the greatest era of heavy weight boxing when Ali, Frazier, Norton and Foreman were contenders.

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    same with me, basically. Ali drew me into boxing, and when he retired i really lost interest.

    Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman — i wonder how many total concussions they all had.

    I used to assume MMA was more dangerous, but maybe its less dangerous.
    There is less of a “constant pounding” I would think. Maybe more danger to knees and joints but less to brains.

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    • This reply was modified 9 years, 11 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: Intelligence memo to Obama on the emails #45444
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    The real crime is Clinton Foundation Donors including despots dictators and psychopaths getting sweet arms contracts including biological weapons from Hillary’s State Dept. after making huge donations to the Foundation which all signs point to being a money laundering scheme. Personal emails were not about yoga, does she look like she’s been doing yoga ?

    Yes selling influence is in the Clinton Syndicate’s DNA. Pay Bill and Hill millions to give a few speeches. Pay the Clinton Foundation to get the Sec. of State Hill to shill your case to Obama. Makes that 2008 primary pow wow deal for Hill to drop out of the race come into complete focus. Yet so many still can’t see. What Bill did for China as president, Hill did for all the world that came bearing cash to pay to play.

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    What i dont get about you, is this — you can see perfectly well how corrupt Clinton is, but what about Bush, Obama, Nixon, Reagan — they’ve all been corrupt as hell, in the sense of selling influence in return for campaign-support. All of em.

    Do you agree? No?

    It aint just Hillary. Its all of em. Well, except for a very
    few.

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    in reply to: shelf clouds (pics and vids) #45443
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    Not that rare in the midwest and south.

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    What state do you live in?

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    in reply to: shelf clouds (pics and vids) #45442
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    If i were a joiner,
    I’d consider joining
    the cloud-appreciation society.

    The Cloud Appreciation Society

    The thing i like most about clouds is
    you can’t buy them at walmart, or order them
    at a drive-thru.

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    This state, known as a quantum spin liquid, causes electrons – thought to be indivisible building blocks of nature – to break into pieces.
    The researchers, including physicists from the University of Cambridge, measured the first signatures of these fractional particles, known as Majorana fermions, in a two-dimensional material with a structure similar to graphene…
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    Majorana particles – Fundamentally confusing

    A completely new type of particle is observed for the first time. What does that mean, fundamentally?
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/life-and-physics/2014/oct/05/majorana-princeton-particles-fundamentally-confusing

    You could define particle physics as the quest to discover the fundamental constituents of nature, and to understand how they interact. The so-called “Standard Model” of physics contains a list of particles which are not made of anything else, and of which everything else is made.

    The question of how something can be made of nothing, and specifically how can a fundamental particle have mass, is both basic and deep. The answer – in the Standard Model – is that the mass of fundamental particles comes about because of the way they interact with Brout-Englert-Higgs field. The Higgs boson is the evidence that this works, and the matter particles which get their mass this way are called “Dirac fermions” because they are described by Paul Dirac’s 1928 equation. In the Standard Model, electrons, quarks and neutrinos are all Dirac fermions.

    There has been small flurry of physics headlines over the last few days about the discovery, by physicists at Princeton, of a new kind of particle – a Majorana fermion. Proposed by the Italian physicist Ettore Majorana back in 1937 – a while after Dirac, but well before Brout, Englert and Higgs – so-called “Majorana fermions” get their mass via a unique and previously unobserved self-interaction, which is completely different from Dirac fermions, and nothing to do with Brout, Englert or Higgs*.

    A consequence of the way this new mass mechanism works is that Majorana fermions must be their own anti-particle. Since particles and anti-particles have opposite electric charge, this can only work for neutral particles. That is to say, an electron has charge -1, so its antiparticle (the positron) has charge +1, and they are distinct from each other, and so cannot constitue a Majorana particle. The only possible candidate for a fundamental Majorana fermion in the Standard Model is the neutrino, since all the other fermions have charge. In fact, many speculative theories that extend the Standard Model – to explain some of the puzzles it doesn’t deal with – contain Majorana neutrinos. There are several highly sensitive experiments around the world searching for evidence, in rare nuclear decays, that neutrinos are Majorana fermions. It is a hot topic.
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    So I was excited to read about the new particle, and somewhat diappointed when I did so to find out that it is not a fundamental Majorana fermion, still less a neutrino. A bit of a let-down for me and my particle-physics colleagues. Nevertheless, the result is interesting for a number reasons.

    What has been seen is a quantum state in one-atom-thick wire which in a certain energy range behaves like a Majorana fermion. It is not a fundamental particle, it is a composite state, and the behaviour emerges from the interactions of atoms, electrons and photons, described by quantum electrodynamics, in which all fermions are Dirac. The fact that Majorana behaviour has been predicted, and then observed, to emerge as collective behaviour from a “more fundamental” (i.e. higher energy, shorter distance scale) theory is fascinating.

    I guess that, given a mathematical principle such as the Majorana mass-mechanism, there are two distinct types of question you can ask. The one particle physicists tend to ask is “Does this appear as part of the basic structure of the universe – does it explain things we already see, answer problems we already have?”. However, one could equally ask “Can we construct a physical system in which this mechanism actually occurs, and if so what can we do with it and what can it teach us?”

    The new discovery arises from addressing the second type of question. This kind of approach has yielded results before. For example, studies of emergent supersymmetry in low-energy optical systems continue even while fundamental supersymmetric particles remain elusive. It is also worth remembering that non-relativistic precursers of the Brout-Englert-Higgs mechanism were influential in the development of the Standard Model; and also that there are amazingly interesting (and useful!) phenomena such as superconductivity which arise in such tricky low-energy quantum systems.
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    I’ve talked about “fundamental particle” a lot in the above discussion, but it is important to be aware that this is just a working definition. The quantum-mechanical principles at play in the complex, composite systems at Princeton are “fundamental” to our understanding of physics, in that they form its foundations, even if the Majorana particle itself is not. When we say that an electron is a fundamental particle, we just mean that we have not been able to see any substructure inside one yet. Or to put it another way, no matter how hard we have tried (and we have tried very hard!) we haven’t broken an electron into pieces yet. It is still possible that we may eventually discover electrons, and even the Higgs boson, to be emergent phenomena of a more fundamental theory, just as these new Majorana fermions emerge from the Standard Model. Each time we look more closely, we have to be ready for surprises; ready to modify what we think of as “fundamental”.

    * Nothing to do with this, either, although it does seem to crop up by mistake quite often in conference talks on the subject.

    There is a pretty detailed account of the Princeton experiment and its new results here, although regretably the paper itself is not open access.

    Jon Butterworth has written a book about being involved in the discovery of the Higgs boson, Smashing Physics, available here . Some interesting events where you might be able to hear him talk about it etc are listed here. Also, Twitter.

    • This reply was modified 9 years, 11 months ago by Avatar photowv.
    in reply to: Tom Hayden supporting Hillary #45417
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    Well, I’d be tempted to vote for Clinton if she made Warren the VP.

    I dunno if i would do it, but I’d be tempted.

    Coz, ya know, she could be assassinated.

    …did i say that out loud?

    O dear.

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    in reply to: "classic" modern poem #45393
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    I have to say wv that’s pretty good.

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    Yep. I lost touch with her, but i always thot she
    had major talent.

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    “How does the ordinary person come to the transcendent? For a start, I would say, study poetry. Learn how to read a poem. You need not have the experience to get the message, or at least some indication of the message. It may come gradually. (92)”
    ― Joseph Campbell, Thou Art That: Transforming Religious Metaphor

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    in reply to: "classic" modern poem #45381
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    Neruda is just ridiculous. I dont have adjectives for that guy. I mean he didn’t write poems in English did he? The poems we read are all translations, right? And they are STILL god-dam-great. Even in translation. Thats just ridiculous.

    I think he was as good as it gets, really. Maybe. I dunno.

    A few years ago, i dated a doctor who gave up doctoring to write poetry.
    From time to time, she’d tell me about this or that problem and like an idiot I’d tell her meaningless drivel like ‘just learn to flow.’ I don’t do that much anymore, but i used to. Anyway, she wrote a poem for me once, and it made me laff:
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    Flow!

    Christine xxxxx

    my mystic friend says.
    And the poet in me answers,
    like a river, do you mean?

    or more, molasses, or warm
    syrup from wedged Maples.
    Golden beer inside saloons.

    Nyquil, pouring onto moons.
    Or streusel dough from
    Christmas bowls. Wet

    polish from red toenails,
    early summer. I don’t know
    how I should do it –

    only “be”. So many words
    encumber brainwaves.
    How do I ebb into his sea?

    Every particle of me
    becoming liquid?
    I have worn my orange vest

    like consonants, providing
    vowels shelter, in uncertain,
    rising tides. Have broken

    lines of poetry. With my
    axe handle! Written stanzas
    thick as quicksand.

    When I flow, it’s like
    some turbine, lugging cargo –
    giant cans of salty word-soup,

    crates of rhyming contraband.
    And the land on my horizon
    calls for dashes, colons, slants.

    Mystic, I begin my answer,
    I’m just a blotch upon a page.
    A drip that leads to text –

    dry, sooty spots of fallen rain.
    I am sure he’s slyly grinning
    at the sound of my discourse.

    One must start at one’s
    beginning. One must
    throw away one’s ‘oars’,

    he’s kvelling back to me.
    And still my fingertips
    are struggling on square keys.

    And my brain is coughing
    harshly, and my heart
    begins to seize, when

    the bottoms of my footsoles
    slide, like oil, against the floor.
    Yes, I’m trying! I shriek loudly,

    Seeking waterways thru doorjambs,
    pipes transgressing window panes!
    Ways to loose the craft! to swim!

    He says it’s more like floating.
    So I ask him, like a duck? My “I”, my
    concrete-anchor pronoun, back at work.

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    Animal Games

    Christine xxxx
    1
    Summer ’62, my brother rides a dented Schwinn
    across fat bellies of wart-strewn toads, front lawn,
    just to watch their jelly innards ooze into dry fescue.

    2
    Bluegrass is
    what the crickets use to hide and roost, and
    where they whistle, twitch in summer. Some escape
    into a basement
    where they find their midget warden
    who locks them inside lidded bottle-prisons,
    where they spit their sticky mud on curving glass,
    until each thorax shrinks, gasps its final breath.

    When they’re finally freed, it’s only for his masquerade,
    where, on a shoebox stage, each black exoskeleton,
    pinned, impaled with sewing needles from below,
    will prance and dance and sing his boyish stories.

    3
    Bunker in the blooming rhododendrons – check.
    Pile of rounded stones – check.
    Slingshot made from the lower half of a stolen doll – check.
    Duskfall, summer – check.

    Because the only good bat is a dead one.

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    I apologize great and noble spider.
    Grieve the way that, while he detached
    each of your daddy-limbs, I only thought
    of me, and how he planned to toss
    your useless eyeball-corpse into my hair.
    Animal game of summer.
    You, flicked into long, brown ringlets.
    Shaken out by panicked girly fingers,
    Tumbling like a marble toward earth.

    While you fell, did you find your voice?
    That question’s why I’m sorry most –
    because my screams so nullified your own.

    in reply to: RIP Muhammad ali #45380
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    Ahh. I hadn’t heard.

    First — He Stood up against the Vietnam War, before it
    was popular to do so. Lost millions of dollars
    and years of prime-boxing-time because of that act.

    Thats what i remember most about him.

    Second, i remember the First and third Frazier wars.

    Third, i remember the Norton wars.

    Fourth, i remember the Foreman fight.

    After Foreman, he should have retired. Couldn’t walk away
    from all the glory though. He paid for his arrogance in the end.
    Ah well.

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    in reply to: "classic" modern poem #45318
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    Merwin is good. What i like about him, is he’s accessible.
    I know what he’s talking about. It annoys me that i can’t appreciate poets like Yeats, cause i dunno what they are talking about,
    except for a few poems.

    Merwin has always reminded me just a bit of Billy Collins. I’m not sure why, cause Merwin can be a lot more eastern-buddhist-ish, seems to me.

    The hardest thing to write, is a GOOD political poem, i think. I go to a little poetry-reading group here in motown, once a month. And people stand up and read their stuff, and the worst stuff by far is the political stuff. The political poems just turn out to be rants. Not really ‘poetic’ in any way that i can see. And mostly they are leftist-rants, and i agree with the points, but they are just awful as ‘poems’.

    Neruda has a good one, about the United Fruit company, but i cant think of many good ones.

    This one is not good, but…ya know…here it is anyway.

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    Apolitical Intellectuals
    Rene Castillo

    One day
    the apolitical
    intellectuals
    of my country
    will be interrogated
    by the simplest
    of our people.

    They will be asked
    what they did
    when their nation died out
    slowly,
    like a sweet fire
    small and alone.

    No one will ask them
    about their dress,
    their long siestas
    after lunch,
    no one will want to know
    about their sterile combats
    with “the idea
    of the nothing”
    no one will care about
    their higher financial learning.

    They won’t be questioned
    on Greek mythology,
    or regarding their self-disgust
    when someone within them
    begins to die
    the coward’s death.

    They’ll be asked nothing
    about their absurd
    justifications,
    born in the shadow
    of the total life.

    On that day
    the simple men will come.

    Those who had no place
    in the books and poems
    of the apolitical intellectuals,
    but daily delivered
    their bread and milk,
    their tortillas and eggs,
    those who drove their cars,
    who cared for their dogs and gardens
    and worked for them,
    and they’ll ask:

    “What did you do when the poor
    suffered, when tenderness
    and life
    burned out of them?”

    Apolitical intellectuals
    of my sweet country,
    you will not be able to answer.

    A vulture of silence
    will eat your gut.

    Your own misery
    will pick at your soul.

    And you will be mute in your shame.
    (Rene Castillo)

    in reply to: Most Dangerous Organization in Human History #45285
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    I understand your point, but much of what makes the Repugnanticans dangerous is rooted in religious dogma.

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    True. Course the Reps are a two-horned-beast. One horn being
    the Corporatists (who often, only ‘tolerate’ the religious folks),
    and the second horn, being the Jerry-Falwell types.
    And of course, there are still probly some actual old-fashioned “conservatives” in the party, but they aint many of them anymore.

    I dunno which is more dangerous: the Econ Reps, or the Religious Reps.

    Its a bit like wondering how many republican angels it would take to destroy the head of a pin. Or somethin.

    And again, the Dems aint much better. They dont have as many batshit-fundamentalists, but Hillary and her minions would still lead us into destruction. Just at a slower pace, probly. Maybe.

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    in reply to: Most Dangerous Organization in Human History #45282
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    Quite possible. Not sure if The Rep Party is the most dangerous organization in human history. But, its in the top five.

    Its a good thot-experiment, or question. What is the most dangerous
    organization in human history?

    I’d think it would have to be a modern organization, because its modern technology that threatens the entire biosphere. CIA? NSA? Rep Party? Dem Party? IMF? New England Patriots? What else?

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    Those organizations you listed are all light-weights compared to organized religion. Well, maybe the Patriots…

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    Yeah, i thot of religion too, but there isnt really one particular religious organization that i could think of. Ya know.

    As a cluster…yeah they are a nightmare. But i think of ‘them’ as a different ‘category’. I’m not sure they fit in the “organization” category. …I put them in the “most-dangerous-reflection of human ignorance/fear” category.

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    in reply to: Laurinaitis Suggests 7-9 Was "Acceptable" To Rams #45280
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    I think its meaningless small-talk. Means nothing.

    Except it will probly start some heated, nonstop internet pyscho-babble
    as well as Laurinaitis-bashing. I suppose.

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    in reply to: "classic" modern poem #45278
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    Yeah, thats a good one for sure. I’ve had that one saved
    in a poem-folder titled ‘nature/animals’ for a while now.
    One of my favorites.

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    Summer grasses:
    all that remains of great soldiers’
    imperial dreams

    basho

    in reply to: Most Dangerous Organization in Human History #45275
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    Quite possible. Not sure if The Rep Party is the most dangerous organization in human history. But, its in the top five.

    Its a good thot-experiment, or question. What is the most dangerous
    organization in human history?

    I’d think it would have to be a modern organization, because its modern technology that threatens the entire biosphere. CIA? NSA? Rep Party? Dem Party? IMF? New England Patriots? What else?

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    in reply to: Misleading title, but great video #45273
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    Well, i could only stomach it to about the 12:15 mark. Thats where she said we should “start looking at Iraq as a business opportunity”.

    Honestly, that statement says more than all the other words
    she could possibly say. It sez it all.

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