How do you get in? I don’t see a link…

Provide proof it will destroy water supplies in that area! Total BS!

https://thinkprogress.org/oil-leak-from-keystone-pipeline-89-times-worse-than-originally-thought-c558e125de05#.cbr5mo560

Oil Leak From Keystone Pipeline 89 Times Worse Than Originally Thought

CREDIT: AP PHOTO/NATI HARNIK
Nearly a week after pipeline operator TransCanada shut down a section of its Keystone line over an oil leak, the company reported Thursday thousands of gallons of oil were spilled, not less than 200 as it first said.
Based on soil excavations, TransCanada said about 16,800 gallons of oil leaked onto a field in South Dakota, the Associated Press reported. After the leak was discovered Saturday and the line was shut, TransCanada said about 187 gallons of crude oil had spilled, an accident that environmental groups said shows the dangers of shipping oil by pipeline. Though the spill is larger than first thought, it poses no significant environmental effects or threats to public safety, the AP said. However, Keystone transports Canadian tar sands oil, which is more difficult to clean than conventional oil.
The company behind the rejected Keystone XL line has yet to reveal what caused the leak, but it said the spill is being controlled, and reported the new estimates to the National Response Center and the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Administration. The pipeline is part of the existing Keystone network that the proposed Keystone XL pipeline would have expanded. It runs from Alberta, Canada, to refineries in Illinois and Oklahoma via the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, and Missouri. TransCanada said the pipeline won’t be fully operational until early next week. So far some 100 workers are at the site, located about four miles from Hutchinson County.
Misreported leak volumes often occur following oil spills as companies investigate accidents and discover oil seeped deeper in the ground or waterways than they first thought. Revised figures are at times much larger than first reported. In 2014, for instance, an oil spill in North Dakota was first reported to have caused a loss of 750 barrels of oil, a figure that climbed to about 20,600 barrels once the soil was further investigated.
TransCanada Announces It Will Sue U.S. Over Keystone XL Denial

Climate by CREDIT: AP Photo/Evan Vucci TransCanada, the company behind the Keystone XL pipeline, announced Wednesday it…
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After the spill was reported earlier this week, environmental groups said Keystone’s spill proves the threat that the Keystone XL expansion would have posed. They also noted that the Keystone pipeline, approved by President George W. Bush in 2008, leaked oil 12 times in its first year of operation. “TransCanada’s Keystone I disaster is a stark reminder that it’s not a question if a pipeline will malfunction, but rather a question of when. This is one of the reasons President Obama rejected the Keystone XL pipeline and it’s why he should reject all dangerous fossil fuel pipeline proposals,” Sierra Club’s Executive Director Michael Brune said in a statement.
Oil transportation largely relies on trains and pipelines. Out of those two, pipelines spill more often than trains, yet train accidents can be deadlier as trains are more likely to explode. U.S. pipelines spilled three times as much crude oil as trains over the period of 2004 to 2012, according to an International Energy Agency study. And last year, the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration reported 314 “significant” incidents causing damages of more than $305 million, and 10 fatalities.
Despite opposition from environmentalists and mounting leaks, TransCanada is determined to expand its system and refuses to shelve Keystone XL, as it has challenged Obama’s decision under the North American Free Trade Agreement in federal U.S. court.
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I would think 16,800 gallons of crude could poison ground water, no?

Pipelines leak, it is a fact. The oil bastards would rather pay the clean ups when they have to than to properly maintain them.

So BNW, would you be OK with it if they wanted to run an oil pipeline under your back yard?

And if you wanted to protest it, would you be happy if conservationists wanted to stand with you?

I see 9-7 / 8-8.

Tough schedule… I’m hoping to go to the Jets or Pats game, but not sure how either will turn out.

Still baffles me how good we can be against our own division, yet how piss poor against everybody else.

Until that changes, no ice cream…

I agree, we killed the fucks. Too bad; they were like the cousin you never really liked, but once you grew up, you realized they were pretty cool. Except, we killed them all.

I don’t think we’re getting off this rock, and maybe that’s good news for the multiverse.

Some of you may find this hard to believe, but I’ve been looking for this for a while…

OK, OK, last one, promise…

That is interesting. Obviously we all know of the water cycle, but putting numbers to how much is in the air at any given time is cool.

What is scary is how climate change is revving up the “river in the sky”. Look what just happened to Louisiana; that wasn’t even a named storm.

Thanks for sharing.

Shades of Charles White

bnw, if this is really what you think, I see no common ground for further discussion.
Good bye.

Nope.

Third to last paragraph. He is term limited.

May run for the Senate, but family in Maine says, “No way”.

ZN, do you think he has a chance at the Senate?

Why burn coal? It is carbon already locked up, and lots of nasty chemicals are released when it is burned.

One alternative that isn’t discussed much is charcoal. Basically, biomass that takes in CO2 while it grows, releases it when burned, and reabsorbed by the next generation.

Best choice for the biomass crop? Hemp. Hemp can produce 10 tons of biomass in about 4 months. It is a woody plant containing 77% cellulose. Wood is 60% cellulose. Hemp is drought resistant, which is important given what’s going on out west.

I’d even take it a step further and bioengineer hemp to make even more cellulose and grow faster.

Why? Because we can.

I’m surprised but maybe shouldn’t be that you’ve felt prejudice because of being Roman Catholic. Not something you’d think would an issue in Late 20th Early 21st Century America. Maybe I never saw it because the East Coast has a larger Catholic population? I am well aware that there has been a rich history of Anti-Papists in this country, Catholics being called traitors for bowing their knee to a Roman dictator and all…

I spent five weeks in Knoxville, one week every quarter in 2003 – 2004 when I was enrolled in a management training course. The course was held right at the hotel at the airport. Very nice area. One week, we were given the afternoon off in the middle of the week. Most everyone else went to Dolly World, but I took a road trip to Chattanooga and had lunch with my sister who drove up from Northern Georgia. Very nice small American city.

I personally do not feel comfortable with the idea on President Trump. I’m also not thrilled with the idea of President H. Clinton. I’m sure you know you aren’t going to change anybody’s vote here; me too. I’m just hoping that we don’t end up with a third party alternative that will draw enough votes away from Hillary to give The Donald the election a la Ralph “unsafe at any speed” Nader.