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The frustrating thing is, the Rams defense will stop the run and keep receivers in front of them for the most part. But whenever the opposing offense needs a big play they always seem to be able to get one. Third and short or third and twenty…it doesn’t matter. They’ll pick it up with ease.
But they aren’t creating big plays of their own and that’s mainly because they can’t get to the QB. I mean, even the worst d-line in the league stumbles into a sack once in awhile. But not this bunch.
Greg Williams’ defense is known as a high risk, high reward defense, meaning it will give up some big plays but they should be more than compensated for by the defense generating big plays of its own.
That means getting sacks, creating turnovers, scoring on interception and fumble returns, etc.
So far we’re only seeing the high risk part. No reward.
And I don’t know how he turned the most feared d-line in the NFL into a bunch of cute, furry bunnies but somehow Williams managed to do it.
RamzFanz
Last year I was calling for AD to start over KC so they could see what they have. Imagine if they HAD, what might have happened. This is what I said then:
I hope they start him or he comes in and tears it up just so we can return to this discussion. I remember another QB who was cut and no one ever heard of and ended up being one of the best to ever play the game. Hint: Mike Martz said he pay him $50 if he would learn to throw a spiral. Coaches aren’t always right.
But now, Fisher is making the same mistake. A year ago I said I can’t wait to revisit this discussion IF AD ever got to start. I’m saying it again. IF Hill gets to start, I’ll be back to finish the discussion.
I thought it was a mistake to not see what AD had last season and I think it’s a mistake to not see what Hill has this season. I don’t give a hoot about who’s going to be the backup or starter next season, I want to see a winning season THIS season.
I’ve got nothing against Davis. I’m an AD fan too, I’m just not sure how they can anoint him after it’s been bench, bench, fired, Bradford hurt, rehired, bench. bench, bench, Bradford hurt, bench, 2 1/2 games with 1 win, starter. AD is a long critisized QB, and fairly so, who had 1 good game against Dallas and 1 win on a 10 second runoff against Tampa. Neither of those are astounding feats. Davis has had ONE great game. That game came against a suspect defense. It wasn’t even a great game so much as a great half. He’s had ONE win against a horrible defense who gave up 56 points the very next week. I’m not con-Davis, I’m pro-Davis, but building a season around him as a starter without seeing what the vet on the team has to offer is a mistake IMHO.
I’m not convinced that AD is better than SH. I’m not naming any QB the starter with that record. I would see what I have, then decide. If I’m Fisher, I at least wait a game or two more before naming anyone the starter and, given the chance, see what Hill has.
Hill played very well in that half against Minnesota. His drives were killed by penalties time and again. Hill had the team humming and was driving the ball. His performance was very good. He didn’t create penalties like Davis has (he admitted it), he had drives killed by penalties.
AD being good in this system doesn’t mean Hill couldn’t be better. Hill has qualities that could make him a better QB and I would have at least taken a fair look at him. Is 34 especially old for a QB? Does experience mean nothing? We have no idea if Hill is the future here or not. He could easily have 5-6 more years in him or more.He looked much better than AD in OTAs, TC, and PS. The half a game he played, he played very well. His drives were all stopped by penalties. He has qualities you don’t find in young QBs. He reads defenses well. He is able to anticipate the open receiver. He moves in the pocket better than AD.
Me? I would have started Hill against the Eagles and seen where it went. If it went great, wonderful, just like he thought when he named him the starter. If he sucked, pull him.
I hope AD tears it up and there’s no question going forward. I’m all for it. We’ll see. The season will play out and we’ll see if AD is who many have anointed him to be. I hope so. I always have hoped so. But I also wish they hadn’t have acted so hastily.
I agree with a lot of this and had some reservations when Davis was named starter, but I doubt Fisher made his decision in a vacuum. I’m sure he had input from Schotty and others. Put it this way, if Schotty didn’t think the kid should start I doubt very much that Fisher would have named him the starter, right? And of course Schotty and his offensive coaches would have the best feel for AD’s abilities and grasp of the offense.
And it’s not like Hill is going anywhere.
You created this thread as a ruse to see how many of your little sock puppets would reply. For that reason I will not respond in this thread. I refuse to indulge your flights of narcissism.
Cosell said:
“Philly has not been able to run the ball.”Well. We’ll see.
w
vThe Rams are going to become solid against the run this year. It will happen. I’m not sure it will happen against the Eagles but they will get better against the run soon. It will either come through Williams figuring it out and making adjustments or through Fisher exerting his influence on the defensive schemes like he did the previous two years. There is no way Fisher will allow the defense to be gashed all year like they have been up to now.
wv wrote:
Torry sez AustinD has brought “emotion”
to the team thats “been missing from the QB position”.Bout the 9 minute mark.
w
vMan. Lol. I have always disliked that particular riff (Bulger if people remember caught the negative of that one). “Brought emotion.” I won’t let it poison my view of Davis that some people say that kind of thing
…but to me, it’s like, completely mind-numbingly irrelevant
Yeah, that “emotion” stuff is over-hyped. How much emotion did Roger Staubach or Bart Starr bring to the huddle? The idea that QB’s need to be emotional and fiery to be good leaders is patently false.
nittany ram wrote:
GreatRamNTheSky wrote:
I wouldn’t over blow the Cook thing. I don’t think he realized who was trying to talk to him and was just super pissed about dropping a TD Pass.Grits
I agree. Emotions were high and Cook was upset at himself. Doesn’t excuse taking it out on the QB who did nothing but place a beautiful throw right in his hands but, like I said, emotions were high. I mean, if teams start cutting every prima dona that acts like a prima dona, then football fields are going to look mighty empty on Sundays.
Well, #1, he knew damn well who it was. #2, we’ve seen Rams be frustrated at leaving plays on the field before. Not one of them since we began following the game took it out on a team mate on the sideline like that. In my own reaction to what Cook did, I agree with William Hayes.
I agree with what Hayes did too but I wouldn’t cut Cook over it.
nittany ram wrote:
wv wrote:
Coy Bacon – 1972
That image of Coy Bacon is from a stamp in the “NFL Action 72″ stamp book. You got some stamps when you purchased gasoline at Sunoco stations. Thanks to my dad and one of his friends I have the complete collection.
Aaron Donald reminds me a bit of Coy Bacon.
They both had speed and power.w
vWell, let’s not be premature with our comparisons. Let’s at least wait until Donald gets immortalized on a stamp.
How cool would that be? Davis, the next Marc Bulger.
That would be great as long as he doesn’t get Bulgerized.
“I let my kids know that I want to maintain witness all the time. I want perfection. A couple times I lost it on the offense. My language was pretty bad. And I remember Austin coming in the office telling me, ‘You don’t want to lose witness to these guys.’
I think I saw Davis “lose witness” several times on the sidelines in last week’s victory over Tampa Bay. 😉
Coy Bacon – 1972
That image of Coy Bacon is from a stamp in the “NFL Action 72” stamp book. You got some stamps when you purchased gasoline at Sunoco stations. Thanks to my dad and one of his friends I have the complete collection.
I took some advice from Steve Savard who is a lot brighter than I gave him credit for. He said go back and watch it again. This time with no unrealistic expectations it didn’t look near as bad.There is some good stuff there. I didn’t mind Shotty’s play calling but the design of the TA plays still bother me.Both Gaines and Donald are going to be good to great.TJ is looking good.Quick is on his way. Hill was trying to get rid of the ball and didn’t have the legs to get it there.Up until that point he was doing good. The D held AP in check and how do you practice for stopping Patterson? Obviously you have to wrap up and hold on your not going to throw him down with arm tackles but the dude is a freakish runner who will continue to scorch many teams this year.
I agree with you for the most part. The Rams were in the game as long as Hill was under center. My only caveat is that it shouldn’t have been a “tough close game”. The Rams should have dominated a team like the Vikings at home. They shouldn’t have struggled against the Vikings while Hill was in the game if they are truly improving under Snisher. I think that is a valid criticism,
But I certainly don’t buy into Bernie’s reactionary, over-the-top Chicken Little act.
