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nittany ramModeratorJT was asked if he thought Fisher would be fired if the Rams didn’t turn it around this year. He said something about Kroenke “going Walmart” in regards to Fisher with the implication being that Kroenke was too cheap to buy out the 7 million dollars remaining on his contract. But Kroenke isn’t really cheap – not when it comes to football at least. Don’t the Rams have the highest paid coaching staff in the league? Sounds like JT is letting some of his personal feelings about Kroenke mingle with his professional life.
nittany ramModeratorBoth listings say 2013. Which is 2014? I hope it’s the top one because it’s a little better.
nittany ramModeratorAt least we don’t root for the Browns’ organization. What a joke.
Obviously he’s lying about not knowing about Manziel’s off the field issues.
The thing is, other than escapability, what attributes does he possess that make him a potentially great QB and therefore worth investing all this time and effort in?
If he wasn’t a first round draft pick there would be little reason to keep him around.
nittany ramModeratorYes, I’ve thought about all of this.
I thought it was certainly a possibility.
The “Oilers” have disappeared completely.
Could the Rams?
Of course.
If that happened I might just throw in the towel on the NFL. I haven’t been thrilled with it the last few years and I get aggravated by it’s constant need to create “EVENTS” (a four day draft, schedule release, Combine special, special awards shows for all year end awards, etc.)and it seems a bit mismanaged from a fan’s perspective. That NFL owners seem capable of moving anywhere, anytime for–oh–the hell of it. It bugs me.
Who knows what happens IF London gets a team in 10 years. Maybe Kroenke likes it over there better and he sells the L.A. stadium to the Chargers, or rents it and moves again–but THIS time London wants its own name. At least L.A. has a “Rams” connection.
London doesn’t.
I’m uncertain about the future of the NFL and am a bit concerned it might reach itself out of existence–at least for die hard fans. Who knows?
I don’t get that the NFL particularly loves or cares about its fans.
If the Rams cease to exist, I won’t care very much about the NFL. I may still watch games but I doubt, after having built myself into this particular brand of fan for over forty years I’d do it again. I’m not sure I have that kind of time left.
I’d watch it in a different way.
Yeah, I’d still watch football as a casual observer but I would never become a fan of another team.
nittany ramModeratorWell, we are headed into something that matters a great deal to a lot of us, and to our posting friends that we have bonded with over the past two decades. Some of us are fans of the _________ Rams. Some of us are fans of the St. Louis _________. I think some of us may be fans of the Los Angeles ________, a currently vacant spot that people have filled with the Rams. I think, though, that if the Chargers had moved to LA five years ago, we would have seen some Los Angeles fans vanish.
We are headed for changes, and we are all going to lose some friends one way or another. It’s too bad.
But at least we have the consolation that Kroenke will be worth more on paper no matter what.
Yeah, the worst part of this for me is knowing that either the LA or STL contingent of fans is going to get hurt and that when the smoke clears, some of the people I’ve been posting with since 98 will be gone.
nittany ramModeratorI remember when Cignetti Sr, coached at WVU.
Maybe he’s related to Fisher:1976 West Virginia 5–6
1977 West Virginia 5–6
1978 West Virginia 2–9
1979 West Virginia 5–6w
vThey obviously share a coaching philosophy.
I barely watch college football anymore. For many reasons.
nittany ramModeratorWell, I agree, I would expect Stedman and Tavon to improve
simply because they have another year in the system under their belts.I’m looking forward to the Cignetti Era.
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vYou think a former Pitt coach is going to help Stedman and Tavon? He probably took the OC job so he could purposely sabotage their careers.
nittany ramModeratorwho knows. cignetti could surprise us. and i still like the fact that the coordinator and players will have real familiarity with each other. that can’t be discounted working with these guys every day. knowing their strengths and weaknesses. and maybe he even brings a fresh perspective that schotty was missing.
who knows. but i’m actually happy about this announcement.
Well there is nothing about this hire that will ‘wow’ anybody. But I agree that the continuity in offensive systems is important.
nittany ramModerator“Stan was encouraging
and appreciative,
and really couldn’t have been nicer”Let the analysis begin
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vKroenke had no choice but to be nice. Captain Peacock doesn’t suffer insolence.
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nittany ramModeratorThe Super Bowl party conversation could have been nothing more than two people being polite to each, or it could have laid the groundwork for progress to be made. A month ago, Kroenke was not returning the phone calls of the St. Louis representatives.
To me it sounds like Kroenke was trapped in a room with Peacock and so had no choice but to engage in a conversation with him.
This doesn’t sound like it was a planned formal meeting.
nittany ramModeratorThanks guys. 51 today but I don’t feel a day over 75.
nittany ramModeratorIt’s February 5th to me. Nittanymas to the world.
nittany ramModeratorI have no problem with the call. Carroll’s logic was sound. Three plays is better than two plays. He knew he could run the ball twice if the pass was incomplete.
Also, two stats I heard that I cannot verify. This year there were 109 passes thrown from the one yard line. Only one of those passes were intercepted (Wilson’s). Second, Marshawn Lynch rushed five times this year from the 1 yard line. He scored once of those five attempts.
Plus, New England had six linemen in on the play. They stacked the box for the expected run. Running the pass was actually a good call, foiled by an amazing play by a rookie who made an incredible break on the ball.
There’s this from Sando…
Mike Sando, ESPN.com @SandoESPN · Feb 2
5th time since ‘01 a tm down 4-8 pts had 2nd/GL from 1 w/20-40 sec left and 1 timeout. 2 ran and fell short. 2 threw TDs. SEA threw INT.February 3, 2015 at 10:38 am in reply to: Sapp Arrested For Soliciting Prostitute [Update: Fired by NFL Network] #17886nittany ramModeratorI just find it interesting that the headline is
about his arrest for trying to buy sex
but oh, btw, buried in the article
there’s also two assault charges.w
vWell of course. Sex sells papers. Who cares about uppity women getting what’s coming to them?
nittany ramModeratorIf you love Tom Brady so much why don’t you marry him?
Because bigamy is illegal.
nittany ramModeratorZooey, you’re right about the emotional aspect. It is weird. The Patriot hate is strong.
Otherwise, I really don’t care about the Seahawks. I just really hate the Pats.
I didn’t care who won. I just knew a team I hated was going to lose and clung to that. 😉
One thing I never like regardless of who is playing is when the perception is that a game was lost because of one person or one event. For example, I don’t like it when a team loses because a kicker misses a FG because the kicker will get all the blame for the loss. Now, we all know that a game is never really lost due to one person. A game is won or lost due to the sum total of performances of everyone on the team, players and coaches alike. So in reality a game is never lost because a kicker missed a FG, because the FG would not have been necessary if previous mistakes had not been made…(ie, missed block leading to tackle that prevented a first down, bad throw that misses wide open receiver, etc.) So the missed FG is just one contributing factor to the loss, not the reason for the loss.
Same is true for this “bad call”. The Seahawks didn’t lose because of it. They lost for a number of reasons, the bad call (if it truly was a bad call) being just one reason. How about the fact that the vaunted “legion of boom” got lit up to the tune of 356 yds and 4 TD’s even with Brady’s two gift INT’s? Think that might have played a part in the loss?
Anyway, this loss being attributed to this one call smacks more of emotion than reason.
nittany ramModeratorPlus, that was a really good play by the rookie CB. You have to give him credit. Again, Wilson had to telegraph the play first, but how many times have we seen that play work?
Yeah, outstanding play by Butler the way he broke on the ball. Even if the receiver caught it he wouldn’t have got into the endzone the way Butler jumped that route. Then the Seahawks would have had to burn their last timeout setting up a dramatic ‘win or lose on the final play’ scenario.
nittany ramModeratorI always thought Pace could have been even better than he was. I don’t think he always gave everything he had. I don’t have any complaints though. He was certainly one of the best.
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January 31, 2015 at 6:34 am in reply to: 101, 1/26 … Albert Breer on re-location (re-location thread) #17716nittany ramModeratorGreen Bay is the only team with this form of ownership structure in the NFL, which is in direct violation of current league rules stipulating a maximum of 32 owners per team, with one holding a minimum 30% stake. The Packers’ corporation was grandfathered when the NFL’s current ownership policy was established in the 1980s.
So the league doesn’t want any more community-owned franchises. The Packers demonstrate that a community-owned team can be very profitable, so I wonder why the league cares how the ownership is structured?
January 30, 2015 at 3:15 pm in reply to: Can the Patz beat the Hawkz? For that matter…can the Hawkz beat the Patz? #17688nittany ramModeratorI’m real curious to see what Brady
can do against that Seahawk secondary.w
vI read a blurb somewhere that said there is a chance Richard Sherman’s girlfriend might give birth on Superbowl Sunday and if so, he may not play.
nittany ramModeratorOne interesting point that Long makes is that the referees handle the footballs the most, implying that maybe they should have noticed. But, the refs don’t play the game, squeeze the ball, throw the ball, catch the ball, hold on to the ball while someone’s trying to strip it, etc.
Right. And the refs didn’t deflate the balls either. The Patriots did that. So let’s not blame the refs for any of this. That just deflects blame from where it truly belongs…with the Patriots.
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January 30, 2015 at 6:38 am in reply to: 101, 1/26 … Albert Breer on re-location (re-location thread) #17657nittany ramModeratorI don’t know, man. Maybe you should be more pissed at your politicians than at Kroenke. That’s a multi-billionaire businessman there, and St. Louis took him for granted, seems like. That stadium pitch was a year late. The Ed upgrade pitch was a complete bullshit waste of time.
Food for thought.
Yeah. I think that’s a fair assessment.
nittany ramModeratorFine by me.
Nathaniel Hackett is not a football name. Just don’t like the sound of it.
Agreed. Nathaniel Hackett sounds more like a colonial era rabble rouser than a football coach.
The Rams need someone who understands x’s and o’s. They don’t need a gadfly to King George.
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nittany ramModeratorHere in Vermont we woke up to just a light dusting of snow, so were joking at work that we survived the “historic dusting of 2015”.
It’s still snowing and it’s supposed to continue to do so for the rest of the day but we won’t get anything close to the 12 – 18″ we were originally predicted to get.
nittany ramModeratorPer Roger Goodell, ignorance is not an excuse. Just ask Sean Payton…
Good, because I highly doubt Belichick was completely oblivious to the deflated football situation (just as I don’t believe Payton knew nothing about his team participating in bounties). Seems to me there’s little that would escape his notice, or rules broken without his approval even if it was unspoken.
nittany ramModeratorhttp://sea.247sports.com/Bolt/Bill-Nye-on-Bill-Belichick-What-he-said-didnt-make-any-sense-35042656
Bill Nye on Bill Belichick: ‘What he said didn’t make any sense’
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On Saturday, Patriots head coach Bill Belichick held a press conference to tell reporters that following a science experiment that attempted to recreate what happened in the AFC Championship, they found that the Patriots “followed every rule, to the letter.”Belichick tried to drop some knowledge on the media, saying he studied the science behind why the air pressure in footballs can be affected by environmental conditions, and said that by simply rubbing the footballs, the pressure would change. Bill Belichick “The Science Guy” did not touch on why the Patriots footballs all deflated, and the Colts footballs did not.
Bill Nye the Science Guy is not buying Belichick’s theory.
“I’m not too worried about coach Belichick competing with me,” Nye said Sunday, on Good Morning America. “What he said didn’t make any sense. Rubbing the football I don’t think you can change the pressure. To really change the pressure you need one of these, the inflation needle.”
At the end of his statement, Nye added “Go Seahawks.”
nittany ramModerator“….The 2014 Patriots were just the 3rd team in the last 25 years to never have lost a fumble at home! The biggest difference between the Patriots and the other 2 teams who did it was that New England ran between 150 and 200 MORE plays this year than those teams did in the years they had zero home fumbles, making the Patriots stand alone in this unique statistic.
Based on the desire to incorporate full season data (not just home games, as a team theoretically bring “doctored footballs” with them on the road) I performed the following analysis:
I looked at the last 5 years.of data (since 2010) and examined TOTAL FUMBLES in all games (as well as fumbles/game) but more importantly, TOTAL OFFENSIVE PLAYS RUN. Thus, we can to determine average PLAYS per FUMBLE, a much more valuable statistic. The results are displayed in the chart below. Keep in mind, this is for all games since 2010, regardless of indoors, outdoors, weather, site, etc. EVERYTHING…
One can CLEARLY SEE the Patriots, visually, are off the chart. There is no other team even close to being near to their rate of 187 offensive plays (passes+rushes+sacks) per fumble. The league average is 105 plays/fumble. Most teams are within 21 plays of that number.
I spoke with a data scientist who I know from work on the NFLproject.com website, and sent him the data. He said:
Based on the assumption that fumbles per play follow a normal distribution, you’d expect to see, according to random fluctuation, the results that the Patriots have gotten over this period, once in 16,233.77 instances”.
Which in layman’s terms means that this result only being a coincidence, is like winning a raffle where you have a 0.0000616 probability to win. Which in other words, it’s very unlikely that it’s a coincidence….
…see link…”The comments after the article are interesting, btw
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vDeflated footballs are easier to hold on to, so that could account for the highly improbable statistical disparity between the Patriot’s plays/fumble and everyone else’s. Just sayin.
The next time Belichek negotiates a deal with Satan he should have his lawyers make sure it stipulates that the public won’t find out about the cheating. Yeah, he’ll get the wins and any repercussions from the cheating will be relatively mild but to non-Pats fans the victories will always be tainted. His legacy is forever tarnished.
January 24, 2015 at 9:12 pm in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #17315nittany ramModeratorAs I said, I didn’t bring that with me to the theater. I was mostly interested in the mental makeup of Chris Kyle and of the effect of war on the men and their families. That’s what I focused on. To truly tell that tale the film would have needed another hour. I thought some of the strongest moments were actually the scenes involving his wife Taya. Chris Kyle came across as very stoic, reserved–difficult to know. But his wife(played by Sienna Miller) was a glimpse at the pain and problems and price that is paid by more than just the guy who goes to war. There really wasn’t enough of the AFTER effect of all this to round out the profile of Chris Kyle the man. Maybe what you saw was all there was.
But it was about Chris Kyle, IMO.
Actually the film wasn’t really about Chris Kyle. Not the real Chris Kyle anyway. It doesn’t accurately depict his “mental make-up”.
From the link I posted earlier…
3. The Film Portrays Chris Kyle as Tormented By His Actions: Multiple scenes in the movie portray Kyle as haunted by his service. One of the film’s earliest reviews praised it for showing the “emotional torment of so many military men and women.” But that torment is completely absent from the book the film is based on. In the book, Kyle refers to everyone he fought as “savage, despicable” evil. He writes, “I only wish I had killed more.” He also writes, “I loved what I did. I still do. If circumstances were different – if my family didn’t need me – I’d be back in a heartbeat. I’m not lying or exaggerating to say it was fun. I had the time of my life being a SEAL.” On an appearance on Conan O’Brien’s show he laughs about accidentally shooting an Iraqi insurgent. He once told a military investigator that he doesn’t “shoot people with Korans. I’d like to, but I don’t.”
January 23, 2015 at 4:29 pm in reply to: What American Sniper did is much, much worse than rewrite history #17234nittany ramModeratornittany ramModeratorHappy Birthday, RM! Thanks for the cool digs.
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