If Cameron Erving shows well at the Combine, I could see them trading down a lil bit and taking him at Center in the 1st and then going BPA in the 2nd… maybe a QB…then going OG in the 3rd.

If Hundley falls out of the 1st round, I’d be tickled pink to pick him up in the 2nd… that presumes he comes out. I think he’ll stay and learn and allow his stock to rise…although there aren’t very many QBs in this draft right now…

If he shows well after the season in private workouts and at the Combine and, of course, he actually declares (small detail)…

And presuming the background investigations clear (I don’t care about the crab leg things.. that’s just circumventing the bullshit NCAA rules about players not being able to eat. It wasn’t an Escalade, so I not only discount it, I totally disregard it)… I think some team will trade up for Winston.

Winston did really well with weapons. He remained unbeaten even without as many weapons, even though he made more mistakes.

I think when all is said and done that it’s harder to find a QB than any other position. And if Winston isn’t seen as a Manziel, he’ll go much higher than 10.

If he is seen as flawed such as the NFL slaps Winston with the 1st time offender tag and insists on counseling which would mean any subsequent incidents would mean an automatic 1 year suspension notwithstanding any additional augmentations like the woman being pregnant, using a closed fist or a weapon, then it’s entirely likely that Winston will drop entirely out of the 1st round. I could see him being drafted 33rd or thereabouts (sorta like Janoris Jenkins being picked up right at the top of the 2nd), but it wouldn’t surprise me if that happened… again…only if the NFL tagged Winston.

It really is.

They can HAMMER about how the guy with Michael Brown got brow beaten and he changed his testimony to match Officer Wilson’s because he didn’t want to be an accomplice or an accessory which I’m SURE they threatened him with.

So, they likely tampered with witnesses in that instance.

AND… they outright allowed false testimony before the Grand Jury in order to “exonerate” Officer Wilson.

And like I said… it set a precedent.

This same procedure has not been done several times across the country… every time, officers are not indicted.

It allows for the supposed presentation of “evidence” but with it being done completely disingenuously. And the political animal DAs don’t have to own up to their very political decisions.

It’s cowardice at its most blatant and bare.

I’d love for her to BE President… but she’d have to run… and that process is meant to weed out anyone without issues (including Obama).

The more about SERVICE you are, the LESS you want to run that gauntlet… which means the process more and more appeals to egocentric power mongers.

And what have we mostly had since Carter?

Gee…

Realize what Time magazine did that the definition of GREAT isn’t always a positive adjective when they made Adolph Hitler their Man of the Year in 1936, I think.

We have to realize that it isn’t just misanthropes, loners and losers who are capable of tremendous evil and great wrong.

It’s just as likely to be someone with tremendous talent. It’s just that tremendous talent eventually creates an ecosystem around it that depends on the viability of the host. So, while the misanthrope, loner or loser has no advocate to “keep them out of trouble” or fight back against allegations even if true… the talented one can have a veritable chorus of powerful people all coming to that person’s defense.

None of that changes the truth of the situation about anyone’s ultimate guilt or innocence. It just means that there are those with a vested interest in those allegations not being true for the talent.

As well, for those that simply appreciate the talent or relate to the talent or live vicariously through the talent, they don’t want to believe that someone with that talent could ALSO be capable of tremendous evil and great wrong.

There is a misconception that such things are RELEGATED to the misanthropes, loners and losers. This, of course, only makes it that much harder to actually catch and prosecute the wealthy and well-connected criminals who would engage in such acts.

I mean, Bill Cosby apparently has done what Darren Sharper did and it took until 2013 before ANY major figure was caught serially raping using this method.

Now, seriously… if ANYONE thinks this was just Bill Cosby and Darren Sharper… they’re cracked. It may not have been common, but it wasn’t unicorn rare, either.

If anything, I think we’re entering an age where we’re starting to believe anyone’s capable of anything. That pedestal is coming down (probably the only merit of reality TV… that no one should be ON the pedestal in the first place…) Sort of like how Watergate broke the hymen for most of America that, Yes, Virginia, Politicians will commit serious crimes in office.

Don’t believe it for a sec.

Bears have no alternative and won’t want to eat the cap…

Plus… Bradford is going to be Comeback Player of the Year in 2015…

You know…. Roman Polanski couldn’t come back to this country for YEARS because of allegations of sex with underage girls.

My mom grew up in the San Fernando Valley in the 50s and 60s.

Lemme just say.. Roman Polanski didn’t party alone. Guys like Jack Nicholson partied with him and no one talks about HIM.

Bill Cosby’s, Himself is still the greatest comedy album of all time (I think Dave Chapelle’s Killing ’em Softly is #2)

And yet… it’s hard to not think that after that concert, maybe he roofied and raped some starlet after he filmed that…

The volume of women who not only have come forward, but are telling consistent stories… are placing him in the right places at the right times… are doing so when they have nothing to gain and everything to lose… they are uniformly painting the portait of a serial rapist and a guilty man.

I don’t give a shit about his legacy. If he’s guilty of this as I suspect he is, then it’s done.

He was already in the Comedy Hall of Fame.

Now, people have to deal with him on real terms…

Yeah, based on the wording of the law, it’s still legal to record officers in the public discharge of their duties.

The problem is that folks on the Dem and Rep side of things in Illinois (can’t really say left and right there….) have had such an issue with corruption that it just reeks of everyone trying to enact legislation that makes it illegal to “catch them on tape” doing something illegal.

Which… won’t hold up in court.

That will get struck down, too.

It’s disgusting, but… it is what it is…

We’ll see. Tim Horton’s just got bought out.

Does it keep it’s Canadian flavor?

If only the truth mattered…

Fox: Donuts are healthy!
FactX: No, they are not.
Fox: You know those healthy donuts you just bought because we told you they were healthy? Well, they also taste awesome!
FactX: They are not healthy.
Fox Viewer: Whatever. They’re delicious! I’m free to make up my own mind and I’ve decided that they’re delicious!
FactX: Why am I here, exactly?

Well, you can thank the David Stern marketing assholes of the NBA who took them from a team game “Lakers versus Celtics” to a Magic versus Bird game… and totally destroyed it by pushing players to want the old “one on one ISO”…

Makes me sick just thinking about it…

Football can’t function that way, inherently, but they sure want to market it that way.

And contracts have started to get paid that way. They pay the QB dozens of times more than the OL in some cases and then wonder why the QB can’t perform. Well, fucking duh. It’s a team game and all bumper sticker sloganeering about “elevating those around you” aside, it just doesn’t work that way… no matter how much some asshole in marketing would like it to.

<insert obligatory Bill Hicks “if you’re in marketing” reference here>

So, yeah, we’ve seen that change because the QB has the ball on every snap. He’s the focal point on the offense. He’s the sports analogue for the “one who runs things, makes things go, is at the hub of an organization’s success” etc. Thus, the actual Quarterback for an actual NFL franchise when he does perform becomes both a literal and figurative symbol of a whole lot of things… thanks to that damn marketing machine…

Could Winston = Britt? I dunno. THAT thought never occurred to me. I tend to believe that rapists of any kind have a very high recidivism rate (as every study ever has shown) and so if he did what he’s alleged to have done, then he’s simply another encounter from being the next Darren Sharper. No one needs that.

If he didn’t do it, then he does have the potential to be special. He’s got so much growing up to do… I dunno even if he’s cleared that I’d want to deal with that.

If folks thought Michael Sam “could” be a distraction… well, Winston WILL be a distraction because every last blink will be scrutinized.

He burns them out.

You just can’t function at 100% all the time. Not organizationally, not execution-wise.

So, rather than bake in fail-safes, coverages (organizationally) and compensations, he just goes pedal to the metal until the lubricant of winning wears thin and the gears start to wear down….then start to catch…

SF’s engine is about to seize with all the friction.

We’ve got less lubrication from “winning”, but his management style applies so much torque that it breaks down the lubricant so that even with 3 straight NFC Championship game appearances and 1 SB appearance… all that “lubricant” has ALREADY been lost.

From a management perspective, it’s fascinating how not all success is created equal.

Well, C’mon, Grits…

All you have to do is go through the history of why LA doesn’t have a team… and Houston DOES…and Jacksonville DOES… and how the Coliseum Commission has killed plans rather than not be the center of power in any negotiaions…yadda, yadda, yadda…

It’s pretty EASY to be pessimistic.

Cameron Erving is my guy at first blush. Versatile OL who’s played LOT and C. Can also play DT in a pinch…hah.

Wouldn’t surprise me if we didn’t trade down at that point or if we didn’t also go for a QB at that point.

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Well, Devin Hester has been doing well as a receiver lately, actually.

And Austin has Schotty as an OC who asks rookies to work into his offense moreso than works with their talents, so Tavon Austin’s head was swimming a bit.

Then again, Schotty’s offense is pretty difficult for WRs in general and when he left, the WRs were all too happy to see him go.

Point taken about the D.

Disagree about why RG3 and Kaepernick aren’t panning out. Both are run first QBs who never really learned to READ DEFENSES. RG3 got hurt and he’s physically never going to be as explosive, thus not the threat he was and Kaepernick is still fast, but it’s no longer a secret that he’s only working with half the field which is a HUGE advantage for the D. Running QBs tend to be “found out” in the NFL by their 2nd or 3rd year.

Russell Wilson is still on the fence. Seattle keeps his attempts down and he’s very smart about WHEN to run and protecting himself. That said, without Lynch, that offense won’t be the same and they won’t be able to just “throw more” because that would expose Wilson.

I think the analyst is just dead wrong on Bradford.