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joemad
Participant“I was focused on whether they were going for two, and knew the defense had to step up and make some stops,” Eli told TMZ.
he was watching the game as a football player, moreso a QB…..I’m sure he’s happy for his brother, but aware of next steps need to take place on the field….
joemad
ParticipantPeter King is great… great read. Almost as great as Wade’s defense…..
1 TD Pass combined in consecutive games from Newton, Brady, and Big Ben….
What a postseason Phillips had, his defense holding Pittsburgh, New England and Carolina to an average of 12.7 points a game. He once again put together a brilliant game plan. Cam Newton never had the kind of open rush lanes he always seems to find five or six times a game.
joemad
ParticipantPhillyvoice.com’s Jimmy Kempski makes the case for a Foles-for-DeMarco Murray swap.
really? Murray, Gurley, Mason, Benny in the backfield?
joemad
ParticipantWith the Broncos’ offense nothing more than a water break for the defense, Denver stared down Newton with 4:16 remaining in the fourth quarter. A 16-10 cushion felt, if only briefly, vulnerable.
The Panthers faced a third-and-9, Newton dropped back to pass. Carolina had to make a difficult choice.Double Miller or peel off to chip a blitzing Ward. They miscalculated. Before Newton could sling his arm forward, Miller swatted the football out of his hand. Ward pounced on it, setting up the Broncos’ only offensive touchdown, a 2-yard run by C.J. Anderson.
before this happened, I’m hoping that the Panthers will drive downfield and score a TD setting up Peyton’s chance to drive for game winning field goal…….But Cam didn’t even try to recover his fumble…
Newton didn’t even react to that fumble, he must have been emotionally and physically beaten, he was done for that game…….. It’s easy for me to say that from my recliner, but Superman treated that fumble like it was kryptonite and wanted no part of that scrum…..
Denver played the 2nd half not to lose…didn’t even try to move the chains, it was clear that once they got the lead that Carolina wasn’t going to do jack against Wade Phillip’s defense…..
joemad
ParticipantBring him in to compete with Case and Nick.
joemad
ParticipantMy own feeling is that the Rams demolished Manning in 2014, and that Carolina could do the same.
I agree, I think the Panthers are going to do the same thing they did to Arizona.
Just like they did to Palmer, Carolina is not going to allow Peyton to get into any type of rhythm.
In Peyton’s defense, he made some nice plays in the first half vs New England but the difference vs New England was Denver’s pass pressure.
joemad
ParticipantThose told they’re not coming with the team are being offered two months termination pay, six months severance pay, plus one week of additional pay for each year of employment with the team. So an employee who was with the Rams for, say, 15 years and is not accompanying the team to Los Angeles could walk away with nearly a year’s worth of pay. The team also is providing a placement service for employees not going to L.A., offering interviewing and résumé tips, as well as networking opportunities.
not a bad severance package….
2 month termination pay
6 month severance
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February 3, 2016 at 1:34 pm in reply to: Rams & qbs in free agency (from RG3 to possibly Fitzpatrick) #38553joemad
ParticipantI’d do it just hear “”””OMAHA!!!!!” He’d sell more jerseys in LA than my man Case!
Peyton’s passes flutter like geese, he’s slow, but he knows the game very well… and it showed in the playoffs…… played a nice game in the AFC Championship game led the TE nicely on his 1st TD pass in the middle seam of the field. He knows when to throw back shoulder, when to lead, when to dump to avoid sacks, pocket presence… Fuck yea I’d take him, he’s only 39….
Regarding Namath and the Rams. Knox should’ve put him in the 4th quarter against the Vikings…..
BTW< Joe Willie Namath was the 1st super star football athlete outside our local NFL market that I remember. One of the kids in the neighbor had a Namath Jets jersey… it was the 1st NFL jersey that I remember seeing being outworn from a player outside our local market…. next jersey I remember was OJ’s (Buffalo)
February 3, 2016 at 1:15 pm in reply to: Faulk “sad” for St. Louis, still thinks Patriots cheated to win Super Bowl #38552joemad
ParticipantI’ve said this many times….
it only takes one 3rd down stop to win a game by 3 points. During SPY Gate New England won 3 super bowls by 3 points or less…
BTW, DEFLATE GATE. New England has been money in Nov and Dec for the past 15 years…. this year with properly inflated balls. New England finished 3-5 since late Nov. ….
It’s a huge advantage throwing a ball that is 20% smaller in size. BTW, this season turnovers on fumbles was twice as much as they did last year.
February 1, 2016 at 11:18 pm in reply to: simulator decides: 99 Rams were best superbowl team of all #38493joemad
ParticipantSI NFL Special: The final minutes of Super Bowl XXXIV
That was a very cool listen…..
NFL Films needs to make a segment to compliment this audio.
February 1, 2016 at 11:03 am in reply to: simulator decides: 99 Rams were best superbowl team of all #38466joemad
Participant1999 Rams…the best of all time…… unsung defense…. great offense….
Jeff Fisher beat them in the regular season (Bobby Ross did it one week later in Detroit)…. Jeff Fisher almost did it again 2 month later in the Super Bowl
January 29, 2016 at 4:50 pm in reply to: Rams rumored to be interested in trading up for number 1 pick #38273joemad
ParticipantOK, let’s say this is true… who is the pick, the QB from Cal?
joemad
ParticipantIt would be like Palmer going to the cards.
The Rams would immediately be a different
team.Would they give a first rd pick for Rivers?
I would.First and second? Maybe.
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vIt would be more like Hadl to the Rams ….. Do the Rams have a Coy Bacon to trade?…..
1 and a 2 for Rivers is steep….
But there is not that many QB’s out there… I want Sam back or keep working with Case, I kinda liked Keenum towards the end of the season.
joemad
ParticipantI agree PA Ram…….Cancel the pro-bowl, no one watches this game.
give the player an honor award with a free trip to Hawaii …..but no need for a game to risk injury…….
joemad
ParticipantI’d rather stick with Case than moving to RG…..
the only QB I want to see with RG initials is Roman G.
joemad
ParticipantSomewhere I seem to recall reading that the Rams needed 20 points per game to win. That was their magic number.
I just went through the Rams schedule last season.
If the Rams had scored exactly 20 points in every single game last season, they would have ended up with a record of 7-9.
As opposed to their actual record of 7-9.
DeMarco Farr stated that during one of the game’s broadcast this season. 20 points was the magic number…..
Check your math… Rams would be 9-7, potentially 10-6 if you count the Vikings game if the Rams score 20 in regulation.
20 points would’ve resulted in victories in Baltimore, Minny and vs Steelers.
January 25, 2016 at 2:50 pm in reply to: Wagoner: Plays that shaped the Rams season (10 articles total) #38050joemad
ParticipantDamn, Wagner nailed this one….. this started the tail spin……at least open the flood gates for this game…..
I wonder if electing to go for 2 in Minnesota makes the list? …….
joemad
ParticipantSo KC was the 1 nay vote for the Carson recommendation (alignment reasons)… I didn’t know which owner that was…..
my apologies if the follow article has been posted… looks like Jerry Jones greased the skids to ease tension on the owner’s meeting in Houston.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-la-tick-tock-20160117-story.html
A behind-the-scenes look at a Rams’ proposal the NFL couldn’t refuse
The final steps in the National Football League’s return to Los Angeles began behind closed doors — with a coin flip.
The St. Louis Rams won the right to go first, and their owner and a top executive made their pitch in the hotel ballroom, outlining plans for a multibillion-dollar stadium in Inglewood.
Next came the backers of the Carson stadium proposal — the owners of the San Diego Chargers and the Oakland Raiders. Recruited to oversee that project was Disney Chairman and CEO Robert Iger, who spoke of his love for the NFL and his branding expertise and reminded the 32 owners that, as head of ESPN’s parent company, he had paid them all plenty of money over the years.
After Iger left, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones pushed back his swivel chair and stood to address the room.
“He said he paid us. Last time I checked, that money is coming from Disney shareholders, not him,” Jones said, touching off laughter.
The moment of levity was a bad omen for the Carson project
For 11 hours on Tuesday, the owners of America’s most profitable sports league — with $10 billion a year in revenue — were cloistered in the Azalea Ballroom of a Westin hotel just a short drive from an airport and their private jets.
Their mission: to pick the teams and stadium that would bring professional football back to L.A. after a 21-year hiatus.
Since the Rams and Raiders left Southern California following the 1994 season, numerous sites had been proposed for the NFL’s return. They included downtown L.A., Anaheim, Irvine, the City of Industry, the Rose Bowl, the Coliseum and even Chavez Ravine.
Every proposal failed. Los Angeles had made it clear that no taxpayer money would be spent to lure a team.
In many ways, L.A. was more valuable to the NFL without a team. The city was leverage, a threat that teams could use to extract public financing for new stadiums in their home cities.
Things changed when Rams owner Stan Kroenke bought 60 acres of land next to the former Hollywood Park racetrack and a year later in 2015 revealed plans to build a stadium. What set Kroenke’s plan apart from past proposals was a crucial fact: He already owned a team that could be moved.
At the time he didn’t commit to returning the Rams to L.A. from St. Louis, but the implications were clear.
Six weeks later, a competing proposal emerged: The Chargers and Raiders wanted to construct a stadium on the site of a former landfill in Carson.
In between the two announcements, the NFL created a committee of six owners to evaluate stadium options in L.A. and any possible relocation. NFL owners met repeatedly to hear presentations on the two L.A. projects as well as those in the three home markets trying to keep their teams.
San Diego and St. Louis eventually assembled stadium proposals that included hundreds of millions of dollars in public financing, although San Diego’s hinged on a public vote later this year. Though Oakland city officials said they wanted to keep the Raiders, they did not offer the team any financial incentives or formal plan.
On Jan. 4, the three teams, citing dissatisfaction with their stadiums and the proposed remedies from their home cities, applied to move to L.A.
The NFL made it clear that the owners believed the L.A. market could support one team, and probably two, but not three. Among other things, there weren’t enough slots for broadcast outlets for three teams, and the city already had huge football fan bases for college teams, such as UCLA and USC.
At least one professional football team was going to be turned away.
By the time all the owners gathered here Tuesday, they were impatient for a deal. Four of the six owners on the L.A. committee had teams in the playoffs and another was in the midst of a coaching search.
The league set aside two days for the meeting, but most of the owners wanted to resolve it in one. Nevertheless, the league had reserved hotel space in Dallas for the following week just in case.
The details of the daylong session were pieced together from interviews with multiple owners, team executives and league officials, most speaking on the condition that they not be identified when describing confidential negotiations.
The Rams opened their presentation with 30 renderings showing the sleek, low-slung stadium and surrounding development they wanted to build in Inglewood.
Kevin Demoff, the team’s chief operating officer, said this would be much more than a stadium for one or two teams; the campus could house other league business ventures, such as NFL Network and NFL.com. Kroenke also spoke about his passion for the multibillion-dollar project.
The team’s pitch closed with excerpts from two columns by Bill Plaschke of The Times pleading for the Rams to return to L.A. The Rams, Plaschke wrote, had deep roots in the community and they were Showtime before the Showtime Lakers.
Chargers owner Dean Spanos and Raiders owner Mark Davis made brief comments about the Carson proposal.Then Iger took the floor. One of the world’s most powerful entertainment executives, he had been brought on two months earlier to lead the project if it were approved. He talked about how he had come to appreciate the stadium’s location, which he has said was ideal for the two franchises because it had good freeway access and was close to Orange County.
In a corner of the ballroom, league staff had installed a computer and printer to generate paper ballots of new resolutions.
When it came time to begin voting, the owners had to resolve an important matter: Would it be a secret ballot?
Ordinarily, secret ballots are reserved for the most sensitive votes that owners cast — the selection of a new commissioner and the site of a Super Bowl. By a show of hands, they voted, 19-13, to keep this one secret.
The mood was tense even though a consensus had been building among the owners in recent weeks for a hybrid option: pairing the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood and leaving the Raiders in Oakland. Neither of the original proposals had enough votes to prevail.
The room was mostly quiet; many owners communicated by text message. Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, a member of the L.A. committee who supported Carson and orchestrated Iger’s involvement in the project, said little throughout the day.
At one point, Iger ventured down from the fourth floor to the third, where more than 200 media members were stationed, to get a cup of coffee. Dozens of reporters swarmed him. Someone jokingly asked, “Don’t you wish there was coffee on the fourth floor?”
Before the full membership voted, the L.A. committee recommended the Carson project by a 5-1 margin. But among the rest of the owners, momentum had been building for Inglewood.
After two ballots, Inglewood was only three votes short of the 24 needed for approval. Owners saw a path toward a resolution. No one wanted to stand in the way of a project clearly preferred by the majority of owners.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell ushered the three owners seeking relocation into a private negotiation that lasted about an hour.
Sensing the end was near, Jones had beer and wine delivered to the ballroom. The tension seemed to have ebbed.
By the time Goodell and the three owners returned to the room, the Raiders had agreed to withdraw their bid to move to L.A.
A proposal to pair the Rams in Inglewood with a team to be determined went before the owners. It passed by a 30-2 margin. The two who opposed the compromise remain a mystery.
The agreement — which gave the Chargers a one-year option to join the Rams in L.A. and the Raiders an identical right if the Chargers decline — was one that league staff had discussed for at least six months.
To encourage the Rams to make a deal with a second team, the resolution barred the Rams from selling personal seat licenses, suites or naming rights until February 2017 unless another NFL team joins them before then.
Minutes after the final vote, Goodell stood at a lectern before rows of reporters and a forest of television cameras. His eyes were tired, his voice weary.
“It was a difficult decision for ownership,” Goodell said. “But we also realized that this was our opportunity.”
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joemad
ParticipantHappy Birthday RM. Have a great 2016.
a big thank you for facilitating all of this to make this Ram fan culture possible.
This is a pretty cool site.
joemad
ParticipantWe all know that irritating fan that identifies with a team and because of that irritating guy you want his team (Denver) to lose.
I’ve been rooting against Denver for weeks because of that guy…. Geez….no win situation for me in AFC
Cards vs Carolina. Sam Bradford ended his Ram career in Carolina. As much as I think Arians is an ass and even though Roman Gabriel did color commentary for the Panthers I’m rooting for…. I don’t know who I want to win.
Sucky final four for me, but I will follow the games closely.
joemad
Participanti played in many classic rock cover bands throughout the years and I always insisted on doing a few Bowie tunes.
Bowie has a great song catalog. A big part of his sound and composition was Mick Ronson’s choppy riffs. Very underrated musician… Bowie’s rhythm section was also great.
Very dynamic sound for a simple 4 piece line up.
Sadly both Ronson and Bowie are gone.
joemad
ParticipantFitzgerald is great. The Rams are not his only victim…
joemad
ParticipantStan reminds me of Uncle Pennypacker on the Monopoly board…he just needs the top hat.
joemad
ParticipantJanuary 15, 2016 at 1:17 pm in reply to: LA Times starts Rams coverage + LA press conferences #37376joemad
Participantyeah, that is a cool interview.
One slight correction though…. the interviewer made a mistake……Georgia did not move the team from LA to Anaheim, that was planned by Rosenbloom before he drowned.
It’s a shame those 1970’s Rams teams didn’t win one, that was a great team.
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ParticipantSeattle rushed for almost twice as many yards as the Vikings did…
Seattle did that with a running back that no one has even heard of.
Seattle gained more total yards than the Vikings, got into the endzone and converted more 3rd downs…
Seattle’s defense played better…
The missed FG was set up in part by a questionable PI call that resulted in 19 yards for Minnesota
I agree Seattle got lucky that the FG was missed, but the Vikings did not dominate that game and the missed FG was only part of the reason the Vikings lost.
Seattle played better.
January 15, 2016 at 12:47 pm in reply to: Players on moving – Farr, Warner, Bruce x2, Slater, Hekker, Holt, Gurley, Proehl #37371joemad
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Despite relocation, Rams great Isaac Bruce knows his ‘Ramily’ will surviveURL – http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/14/isaac-bruce-rams-relocation-los-angeles
Isaac Bruce has been through this drill before. The former Rams great, a centerpiece of The Greatest Show on Turf, was a rookie in 1994, the last season the Rams played in Los Angeles. Bruce spent 13 seasons of his illustrious 16-year career in St. Louis, eclipsing 15,000 receiving yards, 1,000 receptions and most importantly, earning a Super Bowl ring with the 1999 team. He remains a community pillar in the region.
As Aaron Donald, Todd Gurley and the current roster of Rams prepare to migrate to Los Angeles, Bruce shares his unique perspective of having made the reverse trip. He also reflects on St. Louis as a city and explains why this isn’t a final goodbye for local fans.
Melissa Jacobs: What was your reaction when you heard the news that the Rams were heading back to Los Angeles?
Isaac Bruce: I can’t really say I was shocked. Probably the last two years it’s been a cloud of “maybe the Rams will go back.” I saw what that did, leaving L.A., especially to the Melonheads and die-hard Rams fans there. I also saw what happened when we got to St Louis. It was packed stadiums. Fans were very hungry for football. They were very knowledgeable. They were there through a lot of downs and at the mountaintop. It’s bittersweet.
It’s a reminder that the business part of what we do has to be taken care of. It’s unfortunate that feelings and emotions have to be pushed to the side.
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MJ: Do you feel like St. Louis fans provided enough support?
IB: I do. Honestly, I do. From the governor to the politicians to the fans themselves, the public funds that were available were impressive. $200 million is a lot of money. To put something together in that short amount of time and have it sealed, it showed the fortitude, the courage of the people to keep football.
MJ: Has it been hard to see the empty stadiums the past few years?
IB: It’s been very hard. I knew what could be in that stadium. I’ve experienced great times in that stadium with fans to the rafters. Tickets used to be hard to come by. Just to see opposing fans’ jerseys all over the place, that was kind of sad.
MJ: One of the knocks you would hear about St. Louis as a football town is that it was a baseball town first. Did you feel that?
IB: When we first got to St. Louis, it was pandemonium. It leveled off at one point around when Mark McGwire started doing his thing with the Cardinals. The product is important, and it will be in Los Angeles as well. People like winning. Players like winning. Fans like winning. I like winning.
MJ: How would you describe the emotional connection between the citizens of St. Louis and the Rams?
IB: They experienced the lows and highs when we were rolling. St. Louis was a hard place [for teams] to play when we were winning. You couldn’t hear because of the fans being so loud. They made it easier for us. They were on a first-name basis with us. They showed up at every event, supported the foundations that we had. It was a love affair.
MJ: Speaking of foundations, the Isaac Bruce Foundation, which touches the lives of so many, is based in St. Louis. How beneficial has it been to have an actual NFL team there, and are you concerned about any adverse effect the move will have?
IB: What we do is God ordained, and we’re there to make a positive impact in the city of St. Louis and will continue to do that. We expect growth and expansion. My plan when I started this in 2006 was to spill out to other cities, and now we have a platform in Los Angeles.
MJ: I can see how it’s a great opportunity.
IB: Of course. As a franchise, we started in Cleveland, went to Los Angeles, then to St. Louis and back to Los Angeles. We’re a Ram Nation. We’re a Ramily. A Rams family. Every city celebrated the Super Bowl in ’99. Every city we were in, they considered themselves Rams fans. I don’t see that changing.
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MJ: How difficult was it for you to relocate from Los Angeles to St. Louis in 1995?
IB: You’re talking about a 21-year old coming to St. Louis. I was very immature. I think it probably extended my career being in St. Louis versus being in L.A. at that time.
I had spent two years prior at the junior college in L.A. and then go to St. Louis, a place I didn’t know at all. I didn’t know what to expect. I had a really good feeling about Los Angeles at the time. I only knew cost of living would be a little lower in St. Louis.
MJ: A little?
IB: Yeah, more than a little bit. So that was a big plus. Other than that, emotionally, it’s hard to see what this does to the fans. My heart is with them and what they gave us. Unfortunately, sooner or later, I don’t want to say this will blow over, but a lot of people will forget about it and it’s going to be exciting in Los Angeles.
MJ: How do you feel about [Rams owner] Stan Kroenke?
IB: It takes a strong leader to make tough decisions. You have to do mathematics, add some things up. He’s a native Missourian, named after two great Cardinals players. My message is that I’m a Ram for life. I want the best for my organization. I want football people who can take football players and mold them so we can have a winner. Ultimately I think Mr. Kroenke did what was best for the organization. And he did what was best for him.
MJ: Do you think St. Louis will have another football team?
IB: I think it’s a great city. I would hate to see other teams use St. Louis as a place where they threaten to land if they don’t get what they want in their city. I can see the city with another team, an expansion team, so they can really establish their own roots, their own legacy and be successful with it.
joemad
ParticipantA lot of nice stories and emotional feelings shared on this thread…
I’ve been to Ram games in Seattle, SF, Oakland and of course Anaheim. Looking back I wish I made at least one trip to STL to get the STL experience…every season we would kick around the idea to go but it just never happened…This season we thought about attending the Steeler game but our schedule did not allow that.
My annual pilgramige to see the 49er Ram game at Levi was very nice this year…There was a good presence of Ram fans and our experience at Levi was much better than last year’s, now that we’re more familiar with the facility.
There was optimism shared with fellow fans about the possible return at Levi. But like that blocked FG in OT that denied the Rams a sure victory on the last game of the season was a reminder of what could easily happen of scraping a return to So Cal.
During pre game warm ups we saw Eric Dickerson and Vince Ferragamo roam the field. When the game ended and as the players exited the field a few dozen of us Ram fans circled the tunnel and chanted LA.
After exiting the stadium we hung out in the parking lot tossing the pigskin late until the SC PD asked us to leave as we discussed plays that might have made a difference in the game. “Penalty pushed back Greg the Leg on the missed FG” “Was the kick low on the block?” “Can fucking Quick make a catch? WTF is wrong with him” “Rams missed Gurley” but the topic always returned to the potential move.
In my gut since 1995 I somewhat felt that the Rams would somehow comeback. When Chip and Lucy got the team my hopes increased, but vanished when Missouri native Stan K took full control…unreal
I can’t wait for next season. Road trips to LA to the freaking Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. In three years the Rams, one of the lousiest teams in the past 10 years, will have the premier stadium in the world. Unreal.
They better get a good fucking quarterback.
It’s pretty cool.
joemad
ParticipantPeterson averaging 2 yards a carry and an offense failing to score a TD with 180 yards in total offense is not controlling a game.
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