i wonder what things he’s got planned for tavon.

i don’t mean to go on and on about this.

but just one more time.

just watched this buffalo bills documentary. they talked about jim kelly and how at the beginning of his career he didn’t even want to play for buffalo so he joined the usfl. that league folded and he was basically forced to sign with the bills since they retained his rights.

his first four years were marred by fighting and bickering. he was constantly deflecting blame. wouldn’t take responsibility as the qb and would essentially put the blame on his teammates. their nickname was actually the bickering bills.

it got so bad that thurman thomas felt compelled to say that maybe the losing would stop if they changed quarterbacks. the owner, gm, and coach made the two issue a public apology at a press conference.

well we all know how that fiasco ended. i wonderhow that infighting would have played out in this era of the internet and social media.

kelly said there were a lot of egos on that team. not just him and thomas but smith, bennett, reed…

and after that feud between kelly and thomas it was thomas who was at his bedside when he was fighting cancer. sometimes it’s just a matter of maturing. or winning.

don’t get me wrong. i’d be doing tons of homework before making a decision and the rams have access to info we don’t. so if they decide the risk is too great so be it.

nittany ram wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

It’s the horns. It’s the helmet.

yeah. nothing can top the horns on the helmet.

the most iconic symbol in sports.

The single most identifiable insignia in the history of the earth.

hahaha!

all things being equal i’d go for the qb. i just don’t think one worthy of a first round pick is going to be available at #15. i personally would rather wait until the second day to get a qb.

corey coleman, eh?

i’m gonna watch out for that guy.

i read it. definitely doesn’t sound good.

but again. there isn’t much risk. you don’t need to give him a huge contract. if it doesn’t work out it doesn’t work out.

and cooley doesn’t have any more insight than any other talking head. he wasn’t there during the gruden years. and in fact he only played with griffin his rookie year. i’ve heard plenty other talking heads say that griffin can play in this league.

as far as gruden yeah its damning. but again. in that buffalo bills documentary the things that were talked about jim kelly’s first four years sound exactly like what happened at washington.

i heard the same things about faulk. people denounced the trade and said the rams were getting a selfish player. the rams couldn’t win with him. if people find him to be a prick well i can’t argue with them. the same is true of marshall. the same exact things were said of kelly. his teammates couldn’t stand him. thurman thomas said the same exact things about kelly that griffin’s teammates are saying of him.

but this guy seems to be competitive. he’s smart. but he also needs to mature. i have a hard time believing that a qb can’t master the basics and put up the numbers he put up in 2014. not his rookie year. but his first with gruden. they’re not far off what cousins did who came from a pro system.

no i’m not trying to say he was as good as cousins, but it’s not as far off as people would like to believe. i don’t care what gruden says or what his motivations are for saying that. and again. the same things said about griffin are what kelly’s teammates were saying about him.

we’ll see, but while griffin may be an arrogant sob, there’s nothing to me that indicates he can’t mature as a person and become a better teammate and leader. and with repetitions i don’t see why he can’t improve his qb skills as well if he applies himself.

granted. i have not seen rg3 play since his rookie year. but to say he has been flat out bad in recent years. i have a hard time believing it. and i have read the articles by chris cooley ripping his game apart.

i can only go off stats, but in his third season as a pro qb in a different system than his two previous, he had a career high in completion percentage (68.7%) and a yards per average of 7.9. that doesn’t say to me that he was flat out bad.

now he might be struggling. but i would expect that given the fact that he switched systems from year 2 to year 3. and part of it might also be that he needs to be in a system that better fits his skills as a quarterback.

i also concede that he needs to adjust his attitude and become a better leader. again. i think he needs to mature. might he be another jeff george? it’s possible. but that’s why the rams would need to do the background search. do their homework. but there’s just too much potential there to just flat out reject.

a guy like fisher might be the right kind of head coach for him. and the rams could put griffin in a system that better utilizes his skills.

or not. i’d be curious to find out though.

No RG3.

He;s a health issue AND a head case.

haha. i don’t see a head case with rg3. i see a guy who needs some maturing to do.

i’d apply head case to guys like manziel.

as far as bradford. i do like him. i’ve always liked him. it’s just that he’s never finished a season for more than a year in a row. that’s big.

i mean missing games here and there i understand. and not expecting 16 games year in and year out. but he hasn’t finished 2 consecutive seasons since 2008.

that’s really my only concern with him. and no i’m not expecting him to be brett favre. but even if he could be as durable as ben roethlisberger i’d take that.

yeah that qb thing…

you got to think if they can solve that problem. and key players on defense can stay healthy.

sigh

Pretty good speed for a guy of his size, and has the ability to hurt you in multiple different areas. He can return punts, he can carry the ball out of the backfield, and obviously he is dangerous in the passing game.

interesting.

yeah. he sexually assaulted a woman in college, and it was swept under the rug. this has been known for a long time, but people have forgotten. he’s a scumbag who even got the woman fired at her job after slandering her in his book.

To bring J. Odgen and Walter Jones into the equation, consider the number of 4 or 5 wideout sets used on passing attempts by the Ravens (Ogden), Seahawks (Jones) and Rams (Pace) over those seven seasons:
Ravens … 355 times.
Seahawks … 660 times.
Rams … 1,236 times.

yeah. orlando faced more pressure than his two contemporaries. that can’t be overstated and why i thought he should have gone in first ballot. absolute stud.

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i never got to see then in the blue and white. i’d like to at least see that – maybe make it the throwback uni.

i just read that they were red and black when they were in cleveland.

i think a guy like prescott would be more valuable to this team than a guy like goff.

use the first round pick on some other position – whether that be wide receiver or tight end.

all mid round picks too with joyner being the highest.

i don’t think they should ever spend too much money on defensive backs. maybe just grab one or so in the draft every year and keep developing them.