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InvaderRamModeratormy guess is the rams don’t miss long. at all.
i do worry about laurinaitis. jenkins too but i really like gaines.
mcleod could really really hurt though.
May 11, 2016 at 12:25 pm in reply to: John Clayton & others: how soon will Goff be ready to start #43872
InvaderRamModeratorFormer NFL quarterback Kurt Warner, who led the St. Louis Rams to a Super Bowl victory, said the act of dropping back to pass is more complex than most people realize. A quarterback’s drop meshes with the route timing of his receivers, so a passer will know by his own feet where his receivers are at any given point.
yeah. more than learning the technique the hard part is learning to be in sync with your receivers. that makes sense. going half speed now and speeding it up makes sense in that context.
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InvaderRamModeratorbut i also think you’re running generally the safer routes and providing a safety blanket for the qb rather than the deeper riskier routes of a wide receiver. so you don’t generally get a high yards per catch but rather high volume of catches and low yards per catch.
InvaderRamModeratori think so cuz you’re playing inside where there’s lots of traffic. so you need size or quickness but above everything else you would need toughness. but there are others here who could give you a better answer.
i also think you’re catching more underneath routes?
InvaderRamModeratorlooking at his combine numbers would seem to be a smoother athlete but not terribly explosive
InvaderRamModeratori think he underestimates the need for better receivers. even mariota and winston had 1000 yard receivers on their team their rookie years, and i don’t see who that’s going to be on the rams.
unless cooper is or thomas is a complete surprise. bradford at least had amendola. not a 1000 yard receiver but he had 80 catches that season. luck had wayne.
i think next year will be the year. when hopefully cooper and thomas are ready to step up.
InvaderRamModeratoroh brother.
InvaderRamModeratoralso when i say goff can be bradford with better pocket presence and vision that’s a compliment.
i mean imagine bradford with better pocket presence and vision…
that’s pretty good i think.
as far as supporting cast his rookie year bradford might actually have a slight edge.
he had jackson and amendola.
just think he’d be better off with a high volume pass catcher to take pressure off him. without that i don’t see his passer rating going north of 80. maybe next year if cooper and/or thomas get more experience. i actually think cooper can be that guy eventually but he needs time.
InvaderRamModeratori can only go from qbs i personally watched which is from 1995.
i definitely think he can be better than pretty tony.
now go watch him go on to be a huge flop.
InvaderRamModeratorhis red zone stats are jaw dropping. that’s what excites me the most.
and his feet in the pocket look great.
as i’ve said before bradford in the pocket could never sense where the pass rush was coming from.
i think goff could be bradford with better pocket presence and better vision. facing that much pressure and still having the ability to find receivers. he should be way ahead of sam in those departments.
InvaderRamModeratorbetter prospect than winston and mariota?
i like it.
on football outsiders they rate goff’s chances as slightly below mariota and just above aaron rodgers. wentz and winston not rated highly while russell wilson was.
but i agree with that post that says you need long term stability. whether you like fisher or not i feel like they’re almost obligated now to extend fisher. give goff stability so that he can develop properly.
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InvaderRamModeratori’m cautiously optimistic with grob.
probably the third most important player on offense?
InvaderRamModeratormy favorite player on the rams. here’s to a great year leading the offense next year.
set the standard, todd!
it will have been nearly two years since his acl injury. he should be at full powers for the start of the season.
for example look at doug martin in his first and second years after acl injury.
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InvaderRamModeratorso much of it is timing and being in the right situation.
this isn’t your usual number one pick going to a piss poor team. goff will have guys around him to help him out. as mentioned before gurley as well as a good defense.
just hope the oline is ready and wish they had a go to receiver to take pressure off him.
InvaderRamModeratoralso. as you said. ryan had roddy white his rookie year. i wish they could have signed a veteran wr or te in free agency to help goff out. a guy like ladarius green would have been nice rather than gambling on higbee and hemingway. i just wonder who goff’s safety blanket is going to be as a rookie. they can’t just rely on gurley to carry the load.
to use another example. winston not only had martin he had evans to take pressure off him. even mariota had walker who caught for over 1000 yards mariota’s rookie year. who is goff going to have?
InvaderRamModeratori think the key has to be that they have stability on the oline. for both gurley and goff.
oline is still a question mark although it did improve as last season went along.
May 7, 2016 at 10:49 pm in reply to: John Clayton & others: how soon will Goff be ready to start #43613
InvaderRamModeratormy hope is that goff is so freaking good that fisher has no choice but to start him from the first week. wishful thinking i know.
InvaderRamModeratorgood numbers. especially like cooper’s and thomas’.
May 4, 2016 at 10:03 pm in reply to: Rams of this moment have 3 Air Raid qbs…can Goff transition? #43448
InvaderRamModeratorby the way, mack, i don’t know about all these different offenses and whether a wco can work or not without a mobile qb. but i did have a preference for the mobile qb. just having that extra dimension that defenses had to account for was appealing. wentz’s experience working under center was appealing to me.
but the choice has been made, and i see a lot of merit to picking goff. now i can’t go into detail like you can about why it will or will not work. i just have a hunch. ya like that? i just got a hunch that it could work. that’s all i got. but what you say is very interesting even though i’ll never understand the nuances of it. it’s something that will be in the back of my mind as we watch how the next three years or so unfold.
or who knows? maybe fisher gets fired. and the rams hire sean payton as the new head coach! ha!
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May 4, 2016 at 8:39 pm in reply to: Rams of this moment have 3 Air Raid qbs…can Goff transition? #43440
InvaderRamModeratorwell comparing this team to recent superbowl winners, the best comps i can come up with are the baltimore ravens and the seattle seahawks.
great defenses coupled with great backfields.
on one hand you have russell wilson who in addition to being a great passer has the added dimension of being able to create with his feet.
on the other hand you have joe flacco who is more of your traditional pocket passer. adequate mobility but nothing to write home about.
can the rams have a great defense? well some of the pieces are there. they took a little bit of a step back, but if quinn can get healthy again and ogletree can get healthy and be an upgrade over laurinaitis at middle linebacker, then the chances are good if they can add another piece (free safety!) in the next couple years.
how about gurley? i think he has a legitimate chance to be special. i think we have all seen glimpses of it already. so it depends on him staying focused and healthy. and i also think there’s a good chance he’s even stronger and faster than he was last year. so do i think he can be better than lynch or rice? yes. but he’s gotta actually do it. so we’ll see.
goff is probably more like a flacco. more of a pocket passer. can he be as good or better than flacco. well you figure the rams are thinking he will be since they traded up to the number one pick. i think he can. i think his instincts in the pocket look special. but that was in the bear raid system. he was also playing from behind a lot. so who knows?
some other factors have to come into play too. like can the rams find that slot receiver that so many teams covet these days? seattle has one of the best in the business. i keep repeating this, but i remember how effective the offense looked when bradford, jackson, and amendola were all healthy and on the field at the same time. and i’m sure that’s what fisher was thinking when he selected cooper. sounds a lot like a julian edelman type. a qb/rb/wr weapon who excels in the slot. cooper is said to not have the best hands but neither does edelman. but he could totally be that safety blanket that goff will need.
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InvaderRamModeratoryeah foles wasn’t able to adjust at all. keenum did with relatively better success. hope goff does better.
InvaderRamModeratordoes fisher adjust a little bit to goff? maybe he should.
May 4, 2016 at 3:12 pm in reply to: Rams of this moment have 3 Air Raid qbs…can Goff transition? #43407
InvaderRamModeratori’d like to say i have no reservations, but i’ll admit i’m not 100% confident. i don’t know. i wonder how the air raid system compares to the one marcus mariota was in at oregon.
This is why I preferred Wentz. I think this is something to be concerned about. Not saying Goff won’t work out but it’s no gimmee’.
i felt the exact same way. i guess we just trust that the snish know what they’re doing.
if they don’t then they’re gone anyway.
InvaderRamModeratoranybody seen this guy in interviews? he talks like he plays. full of energy. his enthusiasm just oozes through. i’m really rooting for this guy.
brian randolph too. that guy’s a character, but he’s also a tough hard worker.
michael thomas interview:
http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/videos/sports/college/southern-miss/football/2015/07/23/30561083/here’s brian randolph.
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InvaderRamModeratorand actually against az and seattle last year they won 3 of 4 games. they need to find a receiver this year for goff. a safety blanket. i’m wondering now if cooper can be that guy. if he can then rams could be ok.
but again i do wonder if the rams would be better off with a guy who can use his legs more.
then again there’s always a tradeoff.
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InvaderRamModeratori agree. i liked wentz more because of his ability to create more outside the pocket.
goff can do some of that but is not nearly as good as wentz.
It’s just the classic distinction.
I’ve done the numbers on this before, but, as a rule a pocket passer who makes quick throws has a lower sack percentage than a mobile qb who runs out of the pocket.
There’s a sports science vid here somewhere that shows Goff’s release (time from cocking/throwing to ball gone) is quicker than Brady’s.
That’s one of the things they like about him, if you listen to Snead and Fisher on Goff.
I like Wentz too but they put their money on the quick release qb with the superior pocket presence, and that’s just not a bad bet.
yeah. i believe that which is one reason i think wentz is going to have to temper his style.
i think he will have a tendency to get nicked up if he doesn’t.
i think though that mack also brings up an interesting point in how fisher will do with a pocket passer in the nfc west. does a fisher offense need that extra dimension to be successful? i don’t know.
i do know that when fisher had bradford, jackson, and amendola healthy the rams offense looked good. and that was against nfc west defenses. problem is he’s rarely had that luxury.
my guess is with a healthy goff, gurley, and if cooper can fill the slot receiver role. they can replicate what bradford, jackson, and amendola did.
but that remains to be seen and arizona meanwhile has gotten even better on defense.
InvaderRamModeratori agree. i liked wentz more because of his ability to create more outside the pocket.
goff can do some of that but is not nearly as good as wentz.
although. one thing i have reservations about is his tendency to get hurt. he’s gonna have to temper his style a little cuz the defenders are only going to get bigger and faster. not just in college but he got hurt his junior year in high school preventing him from playing qb.
May 2, 2016 at 9:20 pm in reply to: As of right now the Rams have 13 WRs on the roster (not counting Tavon) #43308
InvaderRamModeratorPA Ram wrote:
I wonder if the Pharoh Cooper pick is Tavon’s future replacement. They seem to have similar games and Tavon is going to get costly. I wonder if they looked ahead at that with this pick.That was the first thing that went through my mind when I read Pharoh described as a Swiss Army Knife. I like Tavon, but there is a salary cap. And, well….
Well they just picked up Tavon’s 5th year bonus so he’s with them through 2017.
It is possible though, I think, that Cooper learns enough of the Tavon role to fill in for those times when TA misses a couple of games.
But at the same time Cooper is something TA is not nearly as good at–being the traditional slot receiver in the Amendola or Hakim role (not that he is identical to those 2 players in terms of skills). Or in the Baldwin role in Seattle. TA never really worked out to be that.
i didn’t think of that but yeah. if he could be like an amendola or a welker type slot receiver that would be great. be that kind of safety blanket that goff will need.
bradford, jackson, and amendola would look so effective at times together. tavon was supposed to offer that but never panned out. mabye fisher is thinking cooper can fill that amendola role…
yeah i can dig that.
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