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InvaderRamModerator“I mean when he makes a play, he’s going to make some noise. When I make a play, I’m going to make some noise, so it is what it is.”
In other words, trash talking, though Jeffrey had no problem with it.
But see the refs had warned them before that. Tru acted in defiance of those warnings. That’s what led to the call.
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yeah. that’s why i said i really doubt they were just discussing football.
InvaderRamModeratorYeah except the bad situation was Foles melting down in his first real year running a pro system after running spreads in college and with Kelly in the pros. (Though he was in a pro style system his rookie year but was not good at it). 3 training camps later he has been learning pro offenses now–making it 3 straight years—and yeah he looks better at it now.
yes. hence the bad situation.
there’s lots of reasons keenum and foles didn’t work out with the rams. lots of reasons. i think some of it does fall on the coaching staff as well. not just fisher. but the coaching staff as a whole. just as i credit the coaching staff for developing goff. and not just mcvay. and goff is in his first season in a new offensive scheme. that’s 2 schemes in 2 years. his first two in the league. that’s a credit to the coaching staff. and i don’t think boras and company achieve that with goff. even with goff being in the same system for 2 years.
but i also recognize that many coaching staffs probably couldn’t either. the rams just struck gold hiring mcvay.
but i could also say the same when spags was fired. i wasn’t fully on board with spags firing, but i accepted it when i realized fisher was coming. and at the time i thought it was the right decision. and it was. fisher did a lot of good things for this organization to get it to the point that it was at when it arrived at los angeles.
and similarly, this was the right decision. mcvay picked up where fisher left off, and i think he has taken this team to where fisher wouldn’t have been able to. but that doesn’t discredit where fisher did take this team. which is signficant. there was mediocrity, but he made this team at least competitive. which is better than it was before fisher got here. he built a foundation.
InvaderRamModeratorI agree with PA who said Woods is more valuable than Watkins. I just haven’t seen Watkins be a difference-maker.
i agree too. in fact, i would not re-sign watkins. and believe me. i love watkins. i like his skill set. but woods is signed long-term. you got kupp cheap. and cooper and reynolds have shown flashes. on top of that, i think everett still could get better. i’d rather see them direct those resources to re-signing joyner, donald. maybe even trujo.
they need to shore up the defense. they need to have a plan to replace whit and sully. watkins is a luxury. and there’s too many other questions to focus resources toward re-signing him. it’s unfortunate. i was really hoping he’d light up the league this year.
InvaderRamModeratori love gurley. love him. i love goff. love goff.
loving that backfield.
i hope gurley keeps working on his receiving game. incorporates more routes in his game. make him more unpredictable as a receiver.
seemed to run with real good vision yesterday. patient. although that’s easy to say with the chunks of yards he was eating up.
InvaderRamModeratorfoles is talented. i’m telling ya. he’s a good qb. just in a bad situation with the rams at the time.
i don’t know that the eagles are necessarily doomed at this point although it’s a definite drop off from wentz to nick.
InvaderRamModeratori watched the second half of the game yesterday again. i had to step away for awhile. yeah. this defense needs work. i realize that this is the number one scoring offense they went up against, but they still need to do better. that’s even realizing that they lost webster early and trujo later. part of it was committing dumb penalties. although truth be told. that flag on trujo was bs.
still goff had a chance to put this game away in the fourth quarter. maybe he thought he had to make a play with the way the defense was playing. but he’s gotta be smarter with the ball. these things happen. i don’t think it was a matter of not being clutch. i just think he really badly wanted to make a play.
one thing about that int. a couple plays before goff showed great pocket presence i thought. spun away from a couple defenders. and instead of panicking, he stood strong and delivered a simple pass to gurley for a good gain. one problem. havenstein gets hurt on the play and guess what? williams, who replaced havenstein, gets beat by long for the strip sack.
it happens. goff needs more seasoning. i think we pretty much all realized that before the season started. this just emphasizes that. but what we’ve seen is really promising, no?
before the game we marveled at his ability to shrug bad plays off. and i still think that’s true. and that’s a good thing. that’s what all the clutch players do. cuz they make plenty of non-clutch plays. it’s their ability to shrug those bad plays off and still want the ball in their hands. just give him another offseason. give the receivers another offseason. they’ll be fine.
gurley really showed me something. he’s still third on my list of favorite running backs. but he really showed up yesterday. he keeps getting better. and he isn’t even close to reaching his potential yet. just love his playing style. i like the goff gurley backfield. i think that duo is definitely by second favorite backfield of all time.
in 99, that offense was all potential realized. it was composed of people who had a lot of professional football played under their belts. even warner toiled in the arena league and nfl europe before that season. holt was the lone rookie starter on that offense although there was hakim who was in his second year.
but this offense. you have a very very raw sophomore qb. i think we forget that a lot of times. as a rookie, he was about as raw a qb can be. he’s still only 23. he doesn’t even have a full 2 seasons under his belt. shoot he didn’t even have a full season under his belt entering this season. he’s switched offensive schemes once already. and you know what. he’s still played very well this season despite that. i’m not a laker fan. but i’ve tracked his career living in this area. you can’t help but not. i see shades of kobe in goff’s career. a lot of talent. but very green. he didn’t really take off until phil jackson became the lakers head coach. he had talent. he was fearless. but he lacked maturity. that’s what goff needs. he needs maturing.
then you got gurley who’s still only 23 years old in his third season. faulk was still playing for indianapolis at 23. he didn’t even reach his peak years until age 25 his fifth season in the league, when he was coupled with a way too mature for his age peyton manning in his rookie year. gurley won’t even reach his fifth season until 2019 when he’ll be 25 years old. that’s crazy. just need some luck. combined with lots of hard work. and that duo will be something else.
the receivers. there’s no one on this team that can compare to isaac bruce, but woods is a very dependable receiver. i think not having him available really hurt this game. but you know what? maybe just maybe. for the long-term. goff having to play these stretch of games without his number one receiver will actually help him. i don’t know. just babbling a little bit at this point. maybe a little delirious cuz i’m sick. kupp compares very easily to holt. rookies. mature rookies. but still rookies. kupp i expect to be much better next season. which is pretty crazy considering kupp has the chance to top 1000 yards this season especially if woods misses more games.
i guess my point is that as long as the offensive line holds up, and considering the ages of whitworth and sullivan that’s a little worrying, this offense is still full of potential even as well as they’ve played this year. that’s different from the 99 team which pretty much hit the ground running.
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InvaderRamModeratoryeah, he’s a little reckless. flying into the end zone like that.
it’s a shame. great qb.
depending on the severity of the injury. and i have no idea. he could be back for the start of next season. a clean acl tear is usually a nine month recovery these days. gurley i believe tore his in october. so that woulda been about 12 months for him. his was a clean tear i believe with no other structural damage.
InvaderRamModeratorthat’s tough.
he might be able to make it by the beginning of next season though.
recovery time is around 9 months.
InvaderRamModeratorWentz is a gamer Goff could be as well but needs more seasoning held the ball way to long. Imo his competing with Wentz hurt the team. He did some great stuff as well. To me that D is way over rated. We need 4 quarters of run D .
goff is young and raw. a lot of that can be overcome by experience and development.
and if you don’t believe me. i remember kobe before the lakers started winning all those championships. he was NOT clutch. he was the exact opposite of clutch. i think he drove his teammates mad because he’d just continue jacking up balls and bricking them in late game situations. he even cost them some important games. but with experience. with honing his skills. he eventually became insanely clutch.
that doesn’t guarantee goff anything. but the one thing i read about him is his demeanor. no matter what the play before, he’ll get back up and go after it. he just needs to refine his skills. he needs experience. and hopefully, it happens.
and not just goff. that goes for gurley, kupp, woods, watkins, and the rest of them. it never happens overnight.
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InvaderRamModeratormy one criticism of mcvay. he did not give gurley the ball more. the rams were able to run the ball on the eagles d. i don’t know why they didn’t do it more. especially in the first half.
InvaderRamModeratorthe defense needs work. part of it was injuries. but these slow starts by the defense bit them in the ass against a great offense.
and yeah. goff needed to do a better job taking care of the ball there.
but you know what? they did well.
they’ll learn from this. i think it was too much to expect them to be the best team in the nfl this year. they’re merely a very good team. with upside. another offseason, and maybe they’ll be ready.
as it is, i think the playoffs are still very much within reach. at the very least, they can get a wild card spot.
InvaderRamModeratorHaving said all that about SF they are winning halfway through the 4th quarter.
hyde’s a tough runner. shanahan has a qb now. if shanny was hired for the rams, i’m not so sure the rams wouldn’t be just as successful. i think he’s a good coach. great scheme. maybe doesn’t have the personality of a mcvay. but then again. belichick never had that either.
then again. maybe shanny wouldn’t have sonofbum.
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InvaderRamModeratorwow. panthers just went up a td pending extra point. a little less than 2 minutes left.
carlos hyde running hard for the niners.
InvaderRamModeratorjust tied it 24-24.
InvaderRamModeratorthis is all good news. keenum trending down. oline has injuries. this is good.
InvaderRamModeratorVikings are doing against Carolina what they didn’t do against the Rams…turn the ball over…they trail 24-13 in the third.
and they’re not playing at home.
play the rams at home, and i think it’s a totally different game.
or at least i would hope so. looks like there’s a lot of eagles fans in la right now…
InvaderRamModeratori might watch the niners game. the other game is oakland kansas city, but that doesn’t excite me much.
i will be rooting for carolina to win. i actually like minnesota as a team. but they must go down.
InvaderRamModeratorAnd the Rams up for a tough game of this type or is it a year too soon yet?
before, the playoffs became a real possibility.
if they win this game, the superbowl becomes a real possibility for me.
of course. they have a huuuuuuuuuuuge game right after this in the seattle seahawks. those guys just won’t go away. russell wilson is playing out of his sane mind.
but win this game, and i have more confidence they can take out seattle next week (yes, even on the road). win out against tennessee and san francisco. and even perhaps make it all the way to the biggest game of all. against, yikes. maybe they’re biggest test of all? the pats with bill and tom?
i’m scared to even think it.
InvaderRamModeratorGoff: “We had the same agent. He’s got information from the Eagles, he’s got information from the Rams. We both find out. It was never for sure until my name was called. So I’m still sitting at the table, waiting for my phone to ring. You never really know for sure.”
Wentz: “I think we both had a pretty good idea of where we would end up, but we still were just waiting for that call — when the Rams were on the clock, right then and there.”
i think it was pretty obvious by the way they dressed. at least that’s the way it appeared to me.
i do think both have a ways to go yet. and i do think that goff possibly. possibly. might have the higher upside. he was raw coming out of college. physically he can develop even more due to his age. just depends on how much he can develop the mental part of his game. physically, he just needs to hit the gym. should be simple enough. he already looks bigger compared to his rookie year.
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InvaderRamModeratori would take mariota. that guy has it all. i think mariota in this offense would be unbelievable.
InvaderRamModeratorit’s crazy. people laughed when the rams and eagles traded up to grab these guys.
they’re looking better than luck/rgiii and mariota/winston at this point. i think it shows how much coaching and luck factor in sometimes. i think mariota under mcvay would be one helluva qb/coach combo. not to take anything away from goff.
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InvaderRamModeratorgotta credit snead too. and he is also at least partially responsible for drafting the key players who came from the fisher era.
but yeah. mcvay snead are looking like a pretty good combo.
December 6, 2017 at 5:55 pm in reply to: fires, air quality force Rams to cancel Weds. practice #78486
InvaderRamModeratorI think I saw that the Eagles were staying in SoCal this week so they wouldn’t have to make trips to the west coast on consecutive weeks. If so, does anyone know if they are dealing with the same issue.
I heard they were practicing at Anaheim stadium so I don’t think it’s an issue there.
no it’s not an issue for the eagles. the rams are right in the middle of it. not good.
InvaderRamModeratorAnd if they do…..
then it just got real.
InvaderRamModeratorfootball outsiders ranks the rams number one and philly number two.
number one pick vs number two pick.
two of the most well rounded teams in the league. should be fun.
i’m so freaking nervous.
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December 5, 2017 at 8:32 pm in reply to: reactions to the ARZ game … + getting a winning season #78425
InvaderRamModeratori just wanna say. johnny hekker. best fuckin ever.
clutch punting.
this game was all special teams and defensive turnovers.
it’s crazy. the next game almost always seems like the biggest game.
InvaderRamModeratoryeah. at first i thought he said goff audibled, but no. you’re right. listening to the interview again, he said he made a bad audible, and goff had to improvise directing reynolds with his hand motion. that was a brilliant throw into a tight spot.
i don’t know where goff is in his development, but if he is a little too reliant on the headset and i have no idea of knowing if he is or isn’t, that wouldn’t be the biggest surprise to me anyway. he’s like what? in his second season with 18 games starting experience? i’m not too worried. he’s got a lot of offseason work and game experience to go before he’s the finished product. it’s not going to happen immediately. and i don’t necessarily think helping him over the headset is going to stunt his growth.
even arians said it was a useful tool especially with young qbs. and he’s developed some good ones.
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InvaderRamModeratori hope this kid blows up. jj and ebukam. two possible long term starters on defense. that’s crazy.
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Rams linebacker from Nigeria is latest rookie stepping up to become starterBy GARY KLEIN
DEC 02, 2017 | 4:35 PM
PHOENIXRams linebacker from Nigeria is latest rookie stepping up to become starter
Rams rookie linebacker Samson Ebukam, making his first start this week, got to Drew Brees for a sack in last week’s victory over the Saints. (Wally Skalij / Los Angeles Times)
As pep talks go, this one was short and to the point.
Wade Phillips, the Rams’ veteran defensive coordinator, wanted to gauge linebacker Samson Ebukam’s frame of mind this week as the rookie prepared for his first NFL start on Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals.“Are you nervous?” Phillips asked.
“Heck yeah,” Ebukam responded.
“Well,” Phillips said, “you better be.”
Ebukam chuckled recalling the exchange.
“Of course I’m nervous,” said Ebukam, who will start in place of injured Connor Barwin. “It’s my first career start. I didn’t think that was going to happen so soon, but I’m excited. I need to show some of my skills.”
The Rams, under first-year coach Sean McVay, have an 8-3 record and an opportunity to sweep the Cardinals, after shutting them out 33-0 in London in Week 7. Arizona quarterback Carson Palmer suffered a season-ending broken arm in that game, but the 5-6 Cardinals still have receiver Larry Fitzgerald and running back Adrian Peterson, both future hall of famers.
That will pose a challenge for the 6-foot-3, 240-pound Ebukam, the latest member of the 2017 draft class to start or play a significant role for the Rams.
Rookie receiver Cooper Kupp is second on the team with 46 receptions for 597 yards. Tight end Gerald Everett has started two games and has 10 catches, and Josh Reynolds started for the first time last week and caught his first touchdown pass.
Safety John Johnson has been a starter since Week 5 and is fifth in tackles, and defensive lineman Tanzel Smart has started four games.
McVay described the rookie class as a “pleasant surprise” for a Rams team that is leading the NFC West.
“What we looked for, really in all these guys, are mature players that understand the game and then go about it the right way,” McVay said. “And that’s both a credit to [them and] some of the veterans we have as well.”
For rookies, it’s been nonstop football since the spring of 2016.
They went through spring practice and training camp before their final college seasons, played 12 to 13 games, and then jumped immediately into preparation for the NFL scouting combine and the draft. They attended rookie camp with the Rams, went through off season workouts and minicamps and then training camp before participating in preseason games.
Now they are going into their 12th regular season game — with four more to play and the possibility of playoffs.
None of the first-year players said they have hit the so-called “rookie wall,” when mental and physical fatigue set in.
“I don’t want to jinx myself,” Kupp said, “but I don’t think I’ve hit it. Taking care of your body and having a love for the game helps too.”
Veterans said the rookie wall was a real thing.
“I still experience it now,” fourth-year safety Lamarcus Joyner said. “I still have to talk myself through it because you just have to find a way to keep grinding and persevering.”
The rookie class showed its capability the first time it met after the draft, Johnson said.
“Once I got around the guys, I knew we were all hard-working,” he said. “I knew we’re all low-maintenance and get-in-the-work type of guys. So it feels good to me to see us actually out there helping the team.”
Ebukam, born in Nigeria and a fourth-round pick from Eastern Washington, did not participate in offseason workouts because of an NFL rule that forbids rookies from fully participating until the school’s spring term is complete. Ebukam then suffered a hamstring injury early in training camp, setting him back.
“When he came into camp, he worked real hard,” Phillips said. “We noticed that real quick. He had a good work ethic, so that helped him fit in real well.”
Ebukam has played on special teams in every game, but he first made his mark with a sack against the Houston Texans that forced a fumble. Last week he sacked Saints quarterback Drew Brees for an 11-yard loss.
“He’s played well, rookie-wise, for the time he’s been in there,” Phillips said, adding, “He’s got a lot of energy and I like that.”
Ebukam described the starting opportunity as a “dream come true.”
Once he gets through the first play against the Cardinals, he said, the nervousness will end.
“It’s the fight or flight scenario,” he said. “Every play I’m going to fight. That’s all I know.”
gary.klein@latimes.com
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InvaderRamModerator“To be the best, you have to try to do what the best did and surpass those guys. It’s work. But I’m in this business to work.” On Aaron Donald, the sacks he seeks, the pressure he generates and the chances of him being Defensive Player of the Year. …
they have to re-sign this guy.
InvaderRamModeratorrams should win this one handily.
i know they’re missing 2 starters but are otherwise healthy i think. no excuses.
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