Brugler on Mannion:

6055|229 lbs|5SR Pleasanton, Calif. (Foothill HS) 4/25/1992 (age 23) #4 GRADE Priority Free Agent

MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 1/2 | Hand: 09 | Wingspan: 80 1/2

COMBINE 40-YD: 5.14 | 10-YD: 1.87 | 20-YD: 3.03 | VJ: 31 | BJ: 08’09” | SS: 4.39 | 3C: 7.29

PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only)

BACKGROUND: A four-star quarterback recruit out of high school, Mannion committed to Oregon State as a junior in high school because of the Beavers’ coaching staff and the offense was similar to what he ran in high school. After redshirting in 2010, Mannion beat out incumbent starter Ryan Katz (who later transferred) as a redshirt freshman, passing for 3,328 yards, which was third best in school history at the time. He showed improvement in 2012 as a sophomore, but missed a few games due to a knee injury and Cody Vaz did a nice job in relief and didn’t concede the job when Mannion returned healthy. However, Mannion beat out Vaz and was named the starter for the 2013 season opener and had a record-breaking year, passing for a Pac-12 record 4,662 yards with a 37-15 TD-INT ratio, earning All-Pac 12 Honorable Mention honors. With Brandin Cooks leaving early for the NFL Draft, Mannion’s production dipped as a senior in 2014, including a career-low 263.7 yards per start, 62.3% completions and only 15 passing scores. He won the 2014 Manning Passing Academy Air-It-Out Challenge in July 2014 and served as a counselor at the Nike Elite 11 quarterback Camp, winning the counselor’s challenge. He earned an invitation to the 2015 Senior Bowl.

STRENGTHS: Tall with an adequate build…keeps his shoulders square to the line of scrimmage with a natural over-the-top delivery…adequate arm strength when stepping into his throws, controlling his ball speed well…improved footwork and base to create the framework to get the most out of his arm…sees the field well to scan and make precise reads in his drops…accurate deep ball thrower with terrific touch on bucket tosses…not afraid to test small windows and gives his man a chance to attack the ball…tough and bounces back after hits…shy personality, but in full control of the offense…calm and always appears under control, getting his teammates lined up correctly and making checks at the line…develops strong chemistry and feel with his targets, which stems from his practice habits…son of a high school head coach and carries himself like a professional, leading by example with natural leadership intangibles…strong football résumé as a four year starter and first three-year captain in school history (43 career starts), owning 18 Oregon State passing records, including career touchdown throws (83)…holds the Pac-12 career record for passing yards (13,600).

WEAKNESSES: Struggles to consistently drive the ball if he doesn’t step into his throws or have a firm base, struggling to add juice or adjust his trajectory…improved footwork and pocket maneuverability but neither are a strength as he struggles to re-set his eyes once moved from his spot…experienced with his three, five and seven step drops, but sluggish with his depth…struggling to recognize the blitz and doesn’t do enough after the snap to evade pressure, failing to speed up his process…hesitant when the pocket shows cracks and looks like a deer in headlights…holds the ball too long with a suspect internal clock that can be read with a sun dial…tends to telegraph his throws, staring down his targets…pre-determines passes and makes puzzling decisions that end with too many defenders at the other end of his passes…doesn’t have the mobility to improvise or keep plays alive, needing to slow himself and set his feet before pushing the ball…load-up delivery isn’t a glaring issue, but he lacks an efficient release with small hands…lean with room to add muscle mass on his frame…loses confidence too easily, causing poor ball placement and keeping him from processing what he sees quick enough when things go downhill…not the same quarterback without Brandin Cooks as his safety valve…career 46.4% passer on 3rd down attempts with a 21-16 TD-INT ratio.

SUMMARY: Mannion has an attractive résumé as a four-year starter with impressive production in a pro-style offense. He has adequate arm strength and accuracy, but isn’t above average in either category as the ball doesn’t shoot off his hand. Mannion is too methodical with his movements and tends to deteriorate when the pocket crumbles, struggling with his pocket awareness, internal clock and improvising skills, which is a recipe for disaster in the NFL. He is a high character human being with exceptional make-up and intangibles – teams will never have to worry about him off the field or not putting in enough work. Mannion has shown promise over his career, but tends to be too careless with his decisions and lacks the consistency against pressures to be a consistent NFL starter. If he can learn how to speed up his process for the NFL level, Mannion can carve out a Shaun Hill type of career, but if he doesn’t, his career will likely follow a Tony Pike-like path.

Brugler bio ’bout Brown:

13. JAMON BROWN | Louisville
6035|323 lbs|4SR Fern Creek, Ky. (Fern Creek HS) 3/15/1993 (age 22) #79 GRADE 5th-6th Round

MEASUREABLES Arm: 34 3/8 | Hand: 09 3/4| Wingspan: 81 5/8

COMBINE N/A (injury)

PRO DAY 40-YD: 5.11 | 10-YD: 1.83 | VJ: 28 | BJ: 08’07” | SS: 4.70 | 3C: 7.36

2011: (9/1) 2012: (13/13) 2013: (13/13) 2014: (13/13) Total (48/40)
1 LG
13 RT
13 LT
13 OT
13 OT, 13 LT, 13 RT, 1 LG

BACKGROUND: A three-star defensive tackle recruit out of high school, Brown committed to Louisville over offers from Illinois, Kentucky and Purdue. He started on defense, but moved to offense early in his true freshman season, starting one game at left guard. Brown moved to tackle as a sophomore and won the starting right tackle job, starting all 13 games in 2012. He moved to left tackle in 2013 as a junior and started all 13 games for Teddy Bridgewater’s blindside. Brown started at left tackle in 2014 as a senior, but alternated between the left and right sides often in Bobby Petrino’s strong/weak alignments, earning Second Team All-ACC honors. He earned an invitation to the 2015 East-West Shrine Game.

STRENGTHS: Naturally wide base with adequate knee bend…squares his pads well and flashes an aggressive punch…nice job keeping his pads down in his shuffle, playing with a low-man-wins mentality…gets into position quickly to angle block and seal the edge…uses his length well to engulf bodies and create a wide blocking radius, forcing rushers to pay for cab fare to get around him…strong hands to control blocks and drive defenders out of the picture…mobile enough to get to the second level and eliminate stationary targets…versatile experience with extensive playing time at both left and right tackle (40 career collegiate starts) – durable and toughs out minor injuries, not missing a start the last three seasons…positive-minded individual with zero concerns about his personal character.

WEAKNESSES: Mammoth size and moves like it laterally with a heavy kickslide and shuffle…spare tire in his midsection and conditioning has been an issue – tends to get complacent for stretches…often caught off-balance and needs to stay under control in his movements…aggressive punch, but needs to improve his timing and patience, often ending up hunched over at the waist…sells out to win off the snap, something veteran rushers take advantage of…unreliable if asked to block moving targets in space and does his best work in his own square…inconsistent snap anticipation, both late and early – will draw false start penalties…best NFL position is likely inside at guard, a position he hasn’t played since his true freshman season…wasn’t able to work out at the NFL Combine because of “lower body” strain.

SUMMARY: After playing on both offense and defense in high school, Brown arrived at Louisville with the mindset that he would play defensive tackle, but only a few games into the 2011 season and injuries on the offensive line prompted his transition to offense. He embraced the move and had single digit practices under his belt before his first career start, which came on the road in the fifth game of his true freshman season. Brown started every game at tackle the last three seasons, showing versatility to play both sides, but does need to keep his weight in check – tipped the scale at 350 pounds in Jan. 2014 and needs to keep his playing weight in the 320- 325 range. He answers well to tough coaching and isn’t allergic to work, which will serve him well in the NFL, along with his naturally wide set and large wingspan. Brown’s best fit in the NFL is at guard where he has starting potential.

Lyle Sendlein Is still out there I think. I don’t know if he’s a whole lot better than what the Rams currently have on their roster, however. He’s got more experience then any of the Rams current centres though.

Based on Wagner’s prediction for the Vikings game I guess shouldn’t bother spending the money and making the 6 hour drive south to Minneapolis for the November 8th showdown.

Boylhart is the only person that I’ve seen not really sing Parker’s praises. He didn’t hate him or anything, but he doesn’t consider him a first rounder. Thinks he pushes off too much, among other things.

zn wrote:

It suggests that what you want to do is find okay placeholders and delay as many rookies starting as possible.

Yes, and it makes me hope for big things, or even okay things, from Barnes, Jones and Rhaney. Even 2 of those guys being serviceable as starters would be nice.

Agamemnon wrote:

This stuff? From here? https://twitter.com/UKDraftFan

Yes. Thanks.

another failed attempt.

• This reply was modified 9 years, 7 months ago by canadaram.

zn wrote:

Greg Cosell joins Ross Tucker to break down the Offensive line prospects for the 2015 NFL Draft. Good detailed discussion with pro comparisons for many of the prospects.

I remember last year’s oline discussion between Cosell and Tucker Mir was excellent. So is this one.

Regarding Humphries, Charles Davis has him as his number one OT.

zn wrote:

There’s really nothing left in free agency. So you’d be talking draft. And some of the top guys in the draft are Brandon Scherff, La’el Collins, Andrus Peat

I like Flowers just as much as any of those guys and probably more than Schreff if we’re strictly talking about OTs. DJ Humphries is worthy of mention too.

EDIT: I guess he did use the word “some.”

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There’s also part of me that is intrigued with the idea of taking Gurley. Of course, that would be contingent on there being some decent run blocking.

Getting Barksdale back would be great. This would give them some flexibility with that first pick.

As it stands right now I have my doubts that Foles is the long term answer. I like a healthy Bradford (does such a person even exist?) better. My concerns about Foles are based mostly on the current state of the Rams oline. I can’t reach a state of cautious optimism about Foles until I’ve reached a state of equanimity about the oline.

Even with the obvious need, I do not want the Rams to draft a guard at ten. I’m a fan of Scherff, but there are good guards to be had in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.