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AgamemnonParticipantFebruary 1, 2019 at 4:35 am in reply to: the non-call issue continues & has earned another thread #97577
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AgamemnonParticipantJanuary 30, 2019 at 10:39 pm in reply to: the non-call issue continues & has earned another thread #97524
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AgamemnonParticipantMangini (who coached for the Pats ) talks about “if the Rams had run Faulk more…”
At about the 2 minute mark.Everyone hates NE, except for the ones that hate LA worse, St. Louis and NO. lol
January 28, 2019 at 11:13 am in reply to: the non-call issue continues & has earned another thread #97408
AgamemnonParticipantDon’t like the guy’s anti-union message. Unions serve purposes and have value that go way beyond the mythical “they always irrationally back their own” message this guy delivers. In fact he’s pointing out that officiating was especially bad this year (due to lots of retirements and new officials). Well that means it was better before…and, there was an officiating union before too. So it ain’t the problem.
“bad unions are better than no unions.” = one of my sayings 🙂
The more I look at this stuff, the more I think, there is always going to be something. There will always be calls that affect the outcome that could be better made. It is like the Uncertainty Principle, you will never nail it down completely. There is always going to be some error in judgement calls and a certain amount is unfixable. imoJanuary 28, 2019 at 7:43 am in reply to: the non-call issue continues & has earned another thread #97397
AgamemnonParticipantJanuary 27, 2019 at 12:18 pm in reply to: the non-call issue continues & has earned another thread #97346
AgamemnonParticipantLike Dungy said, we don’t see the Saints wanting to replay their tainted victory over the Packers. The one where roughing the passer wasn’t called, during bounhty gate.
exactly.
The question then becomes, if the non-call had happened to the Rams in the exact same kind of situation, what would WE be saying?
Don’t get me wrong…when Patz fans assail me with the non-call I have the same responses we all do–there were other non-calls that would have changed the outcome, Saints shouldn’t have been throwing there in the first place, etc.
But, I also think that how we see this is determined not by reason but by fandom, and so my best guess is, if it had happened to the Rams, we would be saying the same things Saints fans are now, and also not listening to them saying the same things we are saying now.
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If the Rams had failed as many times as the Saints did and done some extremely stupid things, I might say we deserved to lose. But, I will have to wait for the to happen to know for sure. Two extremely stupid things, we went for the tie on 4th and goal and they threw the ball on first down. imo
So it is only right the stupid refs determine the outcome. 😉January 27, 2019 at 10:57 am in reply to: the non-call issue continues & has earned another thread #97342
AgamemnonParticipantI have to laugh everytime I hear some whining. Do I need professional help. Whatever. lol
it is funny. and yes. you need professional help. haha!
what’re ya gonna do.
i’m reading posts over at the herd, and i’m seeing bitterness bubbling up about superbowl 36. this is gonna burn for some saints fans for a long long time.
Like Dungy said, we don’t see the Saints wanting to replay their tainted victory over the Packers. The one where roughing the passer wasn’t called, during bounhty gate. 😉
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AgamemnonParticipantJanuary 26, 2019 at 7:28 pm in reply to: the non-call issue continues & has earned another thread #97328
AgamemnonParticipantAll along the Saints thought they were going to win, from before the kickoff. So, they were expecting to win the game from before the kickoff and then they lose it on a what might have been. It is just hard for them to take. imo
I can’t help it. I think it is extremely funny. I have to laugh everytime I hear some whining. Do I need professional help. Whatever. lolJanuary 26, 2019 at 6:01 pm in reply to: the non-call issue continues & has earned another thread #97324
AgamemnonParticipantSean McVay downplays fine imposed on Nickell Robey-Coleman
Sean McVay downplays fine imposed on Nickell Robey-Coleman
Posted by Mike Florio on January 26, 2019, 9:59 AM EST
Getty ImagesThe NFL has remained silent on the controversial play at the end of regulation in Rams-Saints, but the fined imposed on cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman speaks volumes. And it was a topic on which Rams coach Sean McVay probably wasn’t thrilled to be speaking on Friday.
“[T]hese are things that come up every week where in a lot of instances,” McVay told reporters. “Sometimes it goes unreported if a player gets fined based on the way that the league office sees some of the things that take place during the course of the game. Unfortunately, sometimes that’s just kind of common nature that you go through week-in and week-out.”
He’s right. And McVay wisely didn’t stray toward addressing the obvious implication that fining Robey-Coleman for hitting a defenseless receiver in the head or neck area means that, indeed, the league blew the call.
“[W]e’re certainly not going to allow that to be a distraction,” McVay said regarding whether the lingering questions about the blown call will affect his team.
Actually, the Rams should embrace it, because it can become a strong motivator to take the next step and necessarily prove that the Rams should have been there.
“All you have to do is look at history,” Hall of Fame coach Tony Dungy said on Friday’s PFT Live. “There’s been all kinds of bad calls, non-calls. It happens all the time. It will never be remembered if you win the Super Bowl.”
Dungy pointed out that, as Saints fans continue to be up in arms over the call that wasn’t, the Saints benefitted from a similar error nine years ago in the NFC Championship against Minnesota.
“The Vikings got an apology on a Brett Favre interception that should have been roughing the passer,” Dungy said. “Wasn’t called. And the Saints go to the Super Bowl. They’re not giving their Super Bowl trophy back and saying, ‘You know what? That was roughing the passer. We should play that game over.’”
It’s unlikely that a Rams Super Bowl win will get Saints fans to abandon their position that they were robbed, teams use whatever they can to get themselves motivated and focused. Instead of thinking about the lingering furor as a distraction, McVay should welcome it as the source of a valuable edge that his team may desperately need when facing a head coach and a quarterback who will be teaming up for their ninth Super Bowl.
AgamemnonParticipantlink: https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/08/30/top-3-deepest-positions-for-the-2019-nfl-draft/
Top 3 Deepest Positions For The 2019 NFL Draft
Trevor SikkemaAugust 30, 2018
Joe Maiorana-USA TODAY SportsThere’s an element of the draft that makes it ever changing. Just because the NFL may be emphasizing positions like quarterback, pass rusher and offensive tackle doesn’t always mean the upcoming draft class will have the right amount of talent in that area.
Bill Parcells once said “we in the NFL can only take what the college send us.” No matter what your team needs may be for a given year, there’s a chance that the pool you’re selecting from might not be strong in the category you as a general manager desire. It’s an element of the draft that makes it so unpredictable year-to-year. Need versus talent; draft class versus draft value.
Each year there are one or two positions that really stand out just by the timing of the players coming through. In 2014, we saw one of the best wide receiver draft classes of all time roll through with names like Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Jr., Sammy Watkins, Brandin Cooks, Kelvin Benjamin, Allen Robinson and Jarvis Landry. In 2015, we saw running backs like Todd Gurley, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, Melvin Gordon and Tevin Coleman. In 2017, we had tight ends O.J. Howard, Evan Engram and David Njoku. And last year we saw Quenton Nelson, Frank Ragnow, Will Hernandez, Billy Price and James Daniels headline one of the best interior offensive line classes in recent history, plus an unprecedented run of five quarterbacks taken in the first round.
So what’s on the radar next? (Sorry for stealing the name, Conor Rogers.)
It’s early, but here are a few positions that look strong heading into the 2019 NFL Draft season.
Interior Defensive Line
Big names: Ed Oliver, Raekwon Davis, Jeffery Simmons
Other names: Possibly Rashan Gary, Rashard Lawrence, Christian Wilkins, Dre’Mont Jones, Robert Landers
Holy smokes, you better hope this is the year your favorite NFL team needs an interior defensive lineman, because if they do, they have a gold mine to choose from.
The obvious front man is Houston’s Ed Oliver. Though a little undersized, he’s been whipping up on college football offensive linemen for two straight years with technique, explosives and a motor that won’t quit. SEC West foes Raekwon Davis of Alabama and Jeffery Simmons of Mississippi State don’t have quite the extensive resume Oliver does, but their ceilings as interior run stuffers and as pass rushers are also very high. Davis and Simmons bring more size to their game and are imposing forces with strength and athletic ability. All three are shaping up to get high Round 1 grades.
As for the others, I have Michigan’s Rashan Gary in here because I think he might be suited better as an interior defensive lineman in the NFL. His explosiveness and speed-to-power in a straight line could be deadly. Rashard Lawrence from LSU has some of the fastest and strongest hands in the class, and Clemson’s Christian Wilkins has all-around game that will likely make him a Top 50 guy. Ohio State has two players to boast: Robert Landers and Dre’Mont Jones. Landers is more of a nose tackle-type player who can win with a great get-off on the snap, and Jones loves to best interior offensive linemen with speed and counter directional moves.
All of those guys could be picked in the Top 3 rounds, maybe even all in the Top 2.
Edge Defenders
Big names: Nick Bosa, Clelin Ferrell, Brian Burns, Montez Sweat
Other names: Anfernee Jennings, Jalen Jelks, possibly Rashan Gary
Likely everyone’s top prospect in this class is going to be Ohio State’s Nick Bosa. The younger Bosa possesses many of the same traits that got his brother, Joey, drafted No. 3 overall in 2016. Clelin Ferrell is likely the highest drafted player from a Clemson line that is going to steal all the headlines this upcoming season. He has the build and ability to play as an all-around 4-3 defensive end. Brian Burns is the big wild card. The size as 6-foot-5 is alluring, but in previous seasons he just didn’t have the weight to be a difference maker. Reports are that he’s up to 245 pounds now, and if that’s the case, look out. Burns has legit pass rush ability as an edge defender in any scheme. Montez Sweat, like Burns, has a longer build at 6-foot-5, but he’s more suited for a 3-4 outside linebacker role. Sweat might not have as high of ceiling as Burns, but it’s still likely first round worthy.
Anfernee Jennings brings that Alabama aggressiveness with him on every pass rush. He’s not as flexible around the edge as some of the guys above him, but he has a well-built frame to stop the run and collapse the pocket in some form at the next level. Jalen Jelks is slept on, to some, as a product of Oregon playing on the west coast, but this 6-foot-5 edge player is making a name for himself in the Pac-12. Finally, Gary is on this list, too, because even though he might be better suited as an interior player, he’ll likely play on the edge for Michigan this season. We’ll see what he can do, and if that’s where he stays as he transitions to the pros.
Wide Receiver
Big names: D.K. Metcalf, Kelvin Harmon, Ahmmon Richards
Other names: N’Keal Harry, Deebo Samuel, A.J. Brown, Bryan Edwards
I’m not about to say this wide receiver class will rival that of 2014, but it should be a fun one, regardless.
At the top, Ole Miss’ D.K. Metcalf might have the highest ceiling. He has size, speed and ball skills that, if refined, will make him a Top 20 selection. Kelvin Harmon from N.C. State is the big name coming into the season. He’s gain the nickname “Lil’ Julio” for Julio Jones, and though he’s not as athletic, his big-catch ability will “wow” all the same. Ahmmon Richards from Miami is looking to have a bounce back season after a disappointing sophomore campaign that followed a stellar freshman season. Athletically, Richards is elite. He just needs the catching consistency.
Just because these guys aren’t the “big names” doesn’t mean there’s a big drop off in talent. N’Keal Harry out at Arizona State is a Kelvin Harmon-like receiver for the West Coast. He’s a contested catch machine that teams will love on the outside. South Carolina’s Deebo Samuel might be the next great young slot receiver, as his quick feet, great leaping and catch ability, and his refinement in route running make him a nightmare matchup. His Gamecocks teammate, Bryan Edwards, stands in at 6-foot-2 and showed good flashes of outside receiver ability last season. If he builds off that success we’re talking about a Top 100 player for sure. And finally, the Rebels’ top wide out from a year ago, A.J. Brown, is looking to continue his momentum after a highly-productive year. He’ll be striving to vault himself into that top slot receiver spot for the 2019 NFL Draft.
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AgamemnonParticipantJanuary 24, 2019 at 5:43 am in reply to: Between the Horns 1/21&23: Rams to the Super Bowl, how they beat NO – Podcasts #97229
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AgamemnonParticipantAaron Donald – recipient of our best pass rusher award – led the league with 33 QB pressures in the 4th quarter+overtime this season pic.twitter.com/nRn2F9qxgQ
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Since the 2016 season – no receiver has hauled in more yards on deep passes than Brandin Cooks. pic.twitter.com/liiYtW1gF5
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