Go deep. See Sherman turn into a dog. 😉

Rookie OG Jamon Brown missed 7 plays vs. Seattle; Fisher said it was an equipment issue (facemask). Garrett Reynolds replaced him.

— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) September 15, 2015

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/08/could-playoff-overtime-strategy-include-an-onside-kick/

Could playoff overtime strategy include an onside kick?
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 8, 2011, 2:38 PM EDT

We continue to be intrigued by the new overtime format that the NFL is rolling out for the playoffs, and the strategic implications of the new rule that says a field goal on the first possession of overtime doesn’t end the game. Specifically, we’re intrigued about the possibility of some team trying an onside kick.

As we noted this week, an onside kick recovered by the kicking team would count as a possession for the receiving team. That means that if the team that kicks off to start overtime were to try an onside kick and recover it, that team would just need to drive the 25 yards or so into field goal range, kick the field goal and win. Or if the receiving team at the start of overtime kicks a field goal on its first possession, that team could win the game by recovering an onside kick on the ensuing kickoff.

Peter King wrote a great piece at SI.com this week examining the implications of the new overtime rule, and King advocates a team giving an onside kick a try.

“No one will be gutty enough to do it, but if you’re Seattle, and you’re somehow tied in a very high-scoring game with the Saints after four quarters, and you’re kicking off, and you haven’t stopped Brees in a while, you absolutely, positively should try an onside kick to start overtime,” King writes.

Brian Burke of Slate.com did a statistical analysis of the possibility of starting overtime with an onside kick, and Burke writes that the numbers back King up, saying, “an onside attempt would be a smart play.”

King is surely right that no coach will be gutty enough to do it, although Sean Payton was gutty enough to open the second half of the Super Bowl with a surprise onside kick, and that worked out quite well. It might work in overtime of a playoff game, too. Even if no coach would do it.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/06/onside-kick-or-muffed-punt-would-count-as-overtime-possession/

Onside kick or muffed punt would count as overtime possession
Posted by Michael David Smith on January 6, 2011, 10:46 AM EDT
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NFL fans know by now that there’s a new system of overtime in place for the playoffs, and that a field goal on the first possession can’t end the game. But some fans might not realize that a team doesn’t actually have to possess the ball to get its first (and potentially last) possession.

As Competition Committee co-chair Rich McKay explained on NFL Network, each team is only guaranteed the opportunity to possess the ball. Which means that an onside kick recovered by the kicking team would count as a possession for the receiving team. Ditto for a muffed punt, or a fumble on a punt or kickoff return.

“There’s two instances in which that could really come into play,” McKay said. “One would be the onside kick and the other would be if the team receiving a punt muffed the punt. At that point they’re deemed to have possessed the ball.”

McKay also noted that overtime won’t necessarily end with a scoring play, which is a change from every previous overtime in NFL history. But the NFL seems to want to emphasize that the league views this as a minor tweak to the overtime rules, not a major change.

“It’s just like the old rule, it’s still sudden death. The only modification is when the receiving team takes the ball, drives down and kicks a field goal,” McKay said. “When the team receiving the kickoff kicks a field goal on the first possession, that’s really the major change in the rule.”

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http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2011/01/so_crazy_it_just_might_work.html#p2

So Crazy, It Just Might Work
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A pro football conundrum: Does it make sense to start overtime with a surprise onside kick?
By Brian Burke
Football on a tee. Click image to expand.

Overtime in the NFL used to be simple: The first team to score won the game. Starting with this year’s postseason, it’s gotten a bit more complicated. Last March, NFL owners voted to change the rules for playoff games exclusively, arguing that the team that won the overtime coin flip received an unfair advantage. In the past decade, as field goal kickers have become more accurate from long distances, the coin-flip winner has won 60 percent of overtime games. In only two-thirds of overtime games does each team even get an opportunity to possess the ball.

The owners made just one modification to the overtime rules: A team cannot win by scoring a field goal on the first possession. This simple change has a lot of strategic implications. If a team faces a long field goal opportunity on its first possession, should it try the kick or go for a first down? (Keep in mind that a field goal doesn’t have the same value as it used to.)If it’s fourth-and-long, should you punt from the opponents’ 30 rather than try a long field goal? (The right answer depends on weather conditions and the quality of your defense, but an average team with an average punter should probably pin the opponent against its goal line.) Down by three points in overtime, should you match the field goal to prolong the game or try to end it with a touchdown? (Don’t forget that a tying field goal puts you on defense in sudden death, which is a sizeable disadvantage.)

Another interesting strategic question has to do with onside kicks. As the site Pro Football Talk explained on Thursday, the overtime rules stipulate that “each team is only guaranteed the opportunity to possess the ball.” On account of that, the onside kick offers a small loophole to the team that’s forced to kick off at the start of the overtime period. If the kicking team successfully recovers an onside kick, the game reverts to the old sudden-death format—all the recovering team has to do to win is kick a field goal.

It seems unlikely that we’ll see an overtime onside kick this weekend. As New York Jets assistant coach Mike Westhoff told the New York Times, “Boy, that takes some serious nerves to do that.” The fact that an onside kick is so unlikely, however, means that it’s likely to work. When it comes to onside kicks, the likelihood of success depends heavily on the element of surprise. Over the past 10 seasons, surprise onside kicks—defined as when the kicking team, based on win probability statistics, has a better than 20 percent chance of winning at the time of the kick—are recovered around 60 percent of the time. Expected onside kicks—those that come when a team obviously must resort to an onside kick and the receiving team can plan accordingly—succeed less than 20 percent of the time.

The principle of win probability allows us to calculate when an onside kick is worthwhile. Win probability is, very simply, an estimate of how often a team in a given game situation will win a pro football game. For example, under the conventional sudden-death rules, a team receiving the kickoff will win 60 percent of the time. A team with a first down at midfield will win 68 percent of the time. These estimates are based on winning percentages from similar situations in actual NFL games.

Because the new rules are, well, new, there are no previous examples to use as a baseline. But we can make reasonable estimates by looking at the typical touchdown and field goal rates from the various yard lines. We can also look at instances when a team is down by three points on its final drive of the game but is not too rushed by the clock—roughly analogous to the situation where a team is trying to respond to an overtime field goal.

So, does it make strategic sense to start overtime with an onside kick? Under the old sudden-death format, the break-even success rate for an onside kick is 30 percent. In other words, a team will increase its probability of winning the game by attempting an onside kick so long as its chance of recovering the kick is 30 percent or greater.

Under the new rules, the price of failure isn’t nearly as high—even if you don’t recover the kick you’ll have a chance to match or beat an opponent’s field goal. Plus, a kick recovery reverts the game back to the old rules, where just one field goal ends the game.

Even so, an opening onside kick is actually a worse percentage play under the new system—the break-even rate has increased to 40 percent. Although it’s true that failing to recover isn’t as costly as it was before, a conventional deep kickoff has become even more valuable. If the kicking team stops the receiving team deep in its own territory, after all, it will get the ball back in good field position with a great chance to end the game with a chip-shot field goal.

Though the new rules have made overtime onside kicks less advantageous, the numbers still suggest that an onside attempt would be a smart play. Never once has a team opened an NFL overtime game with an onside kick. With the element of surprise, the chance of recovery should be around 60 percent—well above the 40 percent break-even point to make the onside kick a sound decision.

Another intriguing possibility would be an onside kick following a first-possession field goal. I think this would be even more surprising than an onside attempt on the opening kickoff—everyone on the opposing sideline will be deep in thought about what strategy they should use down by three points in overtime, a situation no one has ever seen. In this case, a successful recovery would end the game immediately. And even if the receiving team recovers, the kicking team can still give up a field goal and get the ball back; at that point, the game reverts to old-fashioned sudden-death overtime, where you get the ball and have the advantage.

Before doing the analysis, I was hoping this would be a slam-dunk easy call. However, the break-even recovery rate works out to be just under 40 percent, about the same as for the start of the new overtime. (The reason it’s not more advantageous is that a deep kickoff is also very valuable when up by three points.)

The key in any surprise onside kick is reading the receiving team’s tendencies. If they’ve been dropping back to set up blocks or if they’re standing too far back—as the Giants were against the Eagles a few weeks ago—then an onside kick is worth the gamble, so long as you trust the numbers. But would any coach be willing to risk his reputation on such an outlandish maneuver? Well, an onside kick helped win last year’s Super Bowl. Maybe it’s time for it to win a playoff overtime game.

On injury front, Fisher said DE Eugene Sims has "a little knee thing we've got to look at but that doesn't look too awfully bad."

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) September 13, 2015

CB Trumaine Johnson has a concussion and will have to go through protocol this week. Chase Reynolds (knee) also needs further exams.

— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) September 13, 2015

Oh No, I rewatched the TD pass to Kendricks. Foles threw that off his back foot.

Mackeyser wrote:

I haven’t seen all the game yet, but some big questions seem to have been answered.

Donald is better than last year.
The Rams were ready to play.
Foles showed quite a lot.
The OL played well. imo
Tavon is a threat.
Cignetti did well.
Marquez deserves a roster spot.
Robinson did well.

You are right on all counts except GRob. GRob had an awful day. Unless you mean another Robinson…

I meant Marcus Robinson.

I haven’t watched the OL. It did look like they were getting some push. I think they gave up 2 sacks and had 1 penalty. That is what I am going on there.

• This reply was modified 10 years, 6 months ago by Agamemnon.

I haven’t seen all the game yet, but some big questions seem to have been answered.

Donald is better than last year.
The Rams were ready to play.
Foles showed quite a lot.
The OL played well. imo
Tavon is a threat.
Cignetti did well.
Marquez deserves a roster spot.
Robinson did well.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000529371/article/marshawn-lynch-stuffed-as-rams-stun-seahawks-in-ot
Marshawn Lynch stuffed as Rams stun Seahawks in OT

By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The NFL Editor
Published: Sept. 13, 2015 at 05:04 p.m.
Updated: Sept. 13, 2015 at 05:19 p.m.

This time the Seahawks ran in a crucial short-yardage situation. They still lost 34-31 in overtime to the St. Louis Rams in another great game between the NFC West rivals. Here’s what we learned:

1. The conversation in Seattle this week will be about offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell’s decision to run Marshawn Lynch on fourth-and-one in overtime with the Seahawks trailing by three. It was the sensible call, even if it would have shown true guts to throw a slant pass like the Super Bowl. Rams defensive linemen Michael Brockers and Aaron Donald disrupted the play in the backfield, getting Lynch to the ground and earning the Rams’ third win in their last four tries in St. Louis against Pete Carroll.
Every game, all season

2. It was fitting that Donald was part of the game-winning play. He was the best player on the field by far Sunday, one of many Rams defensive linemen to dominate their one-on-one matchups. Donald finished with eight tackles, three QB hits, three tackles for loss, and two sacks. Robert Quinn also had a big game in a great defensive effort. The Rams offense and special teams essentially spotted the Seahawks 20 points. The Rams defense still found a way to win the game.

3. Nick Foles’ first game as Rams starter was a big success. He led the team on a game-tying touchdown drive to end regulation, including a great third-and-15 throw on the run. Foles was efficient throwing the ball for 297 yards on 27 attempts, although he lost two fumbles, including a corner blitz that was returned for a touchdown. Scoring 34 points against Seattle without Tre Mason, Todd Gurley, or starting receiver Brian Quick is amazing.

4. This game had a little bit of everything. Tyler Lockett and Tavon Austin both had punt return touchdowns. The Seahawks scored 18 points in an eight-minute span in the fourth quarter to take the lead. By the time Pete Carroll appeared to go for an onside kick to start overtime, we weren’t even that surprised. The attempt failed, setting up a short field for the Rams’ go ahead field goal. Carroll went on to say after the game the ball was supposed to be kicked normally down field. If that’s true, it was one of the worst kickoffs in NFL history.

5. Jimmy Graham didn’t fix the Seahawks offense by himself. They went to him repeatedly in the red zone, and he wound up with a touchdown and 52 yards on six catches.

6. Russell Wilson was under constant pressure all day. Sometimes he was part of the problem, failing to recognize where blitzes were coming from. His poor decision to rush the ball on third down in overtime directly preceded Lynch’s failed fourth down try. Wilson could have hung in the pocket longer and looked for an open receiver, but chose to run instead.

7. Life doesn’t get any easier for the defending NFC champions. Seattle heads to Green Bay next week.

Jeff Triplette Referee

St. Louis Rams 7 at Kansas City Chiefs 34 Sunday, October 26, 2014

St. Louis Rams 19 at Tampa Bay Buccaneers 17 Sunday, September 14, 2014

St. Louis Rams 9 at Seattle Seahawks 27 Sunday, December 29, 2013

San Francisco 49ers 35 at St. Louis Rams 11 Thursday, September 26, 2013

St. Louis Rams 13 at Seattle Seahawks 20 Sunday, December 30, 2012

San Francisco 49ers 34 at St. Louis Rams 27 Sunday, January 1, 2012

I read that Triplette is the ref. We don’t do well when he is the ref. We have won one game of the last six when he was the ref.

http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/UDFAs-Make-Initial-53-Man-Roster/e7e482df-6388-4304-a3b2-527864d893ba

UDFAs Make Initial 53-Man Roster

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Austin Lankford Digital Media Intern @AustinLankford3

The road to making a 53-man roster is grueling. The climb is that much steeper for rookie undrafted free agents, but after two rounds of cuts the Rams have three.

Offensive tackle Darrell Williams will be the first to say there were people who questioned his decision to come to St. Louis after the organization drafted four linemen this year.

“But the Rams were in contact with me after I came back from the NFLPA Bowl that I played in,” Williams said. “During the entire pre-draft process they were talking to me.

Boudreau called me and told me I’d get a fair shot here. I did and made the most and took advantage of it, and I’m still here.”

The two-year starter out of South Florida said he was with linebacker Bryce Hager and fellow lineman Cody Wichmann when they received their calls from head coach Jeff Fisher.

“I thought Bryce got cut because he was talking so low and he didn’t show much emotion on his face so I kind of got scared for a second,” Williams said. “Then coach Fisher called me and I was so happy. I talked to my agent, my parents, and family members and it’s still catching up to me now.”

Linebacker Cameron Lynch said he actually missed the initial phone call and responded to Fisher after receiving a voice mail from the head coach.

“I felt good and I felt like I put the hard work in,” Lynch said. “The stretch to the NFL, the camps under the hot sun, and all the hard work has finally paid off and it’s a great feeling.”

Lynch feels strongly that special teams is a reason he made the roster, noting he made a point to meet with special teams coordinator John Fassel as much as possible.

“I definitely bugged him,” Lynch said. “You have to and I’m glad I did.”

Bradley Marquez, the wide receiver out of Texas Tech, said his emotions during the call from Fisher are hard to explain after working toward the NFL for so long.

“You have a dream your entire life and that phone call fulfills it and lets you know that you made an NFL roster so it’s pure excitement,” Marquez said. “It was awesome and I’m blessed for the opportunity to be with a great organization.”

All three players expressed gratitude and excitement, but also know that the road doesn’t end with Fisher’s phone call.

“There’s still a 100 percent sense of urgency and you cannot change your approach now that you think you have arrived,” Marquez said. “I did fulfill a dream of mine, but that’s over with now and I have to continue to improve and achieve newer goals that I want to accomplish. You can’t stay the same and go back to old habits. You have to continue to do the things that got you here.”

Lynch said he was able to briefly take a deep breath, but the work is just now starting with the Seahawks coming to town and a full season ahead.

Williams referred to a phrase one of his college coaches used to say: “Don’t lighten up, tighten up.”

“Yeah cuts are over, but I know how this league works,” Williams said. “Any minute you could be the next one on your way out, so I just want to keep playing hard every day and make them have to keep me here.”