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AgamemnonParticipantIt's official on Rams RB Benny Cunningham. His signing of one-year tender as restricted free agent has moved on NFL transactions wire.
— Jim Thomas (@jthom1) April 8, 2016
AgamemnonParticipantWell that’s good. I wonder if he was counting against the cap before in the various estimates.
He was. He plays for the value of his tender(1.67m). It works like a franchise tag(see Trumaine Johnson), except it is for RFAs.
AgamemnonParticipantApril 7, 2016 at 6:22 pm in reply to: Ron Jaworski Talks 2016 NFL Draft QB Prospects, Chip Kelly #41591
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AgamemnonParticipantApril 7, 2016 at 5:40 pm in reply to: Tweets 4/7 – Rams preseason & Cook perhaps best QB in draft #41583
AgamemnonParticipantGary Kubiak has spoken with Johnny Manziel, sources said:https://t.co/2UxHSPa9ta https://t.co/V7RJGmP8MZ
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 7, 2016
Jon Gruden just said on ESPN that Michigan State's Connor Cook "is gonna be perhaps the best QB in this draft."
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 7, 2016
Way to go Chuckie. 😉
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AgamemnonParticipantNFL teams can, sort of, trade compensatory picks in 2016. Explanation of “sort of” here: https://t.co/WLqZBNH2Cn
— Field Yates (@FieldYates) April 6, 2016
Taking questions for this weekend's Rams mailbags. Please use hashtag #RamsMail. Answers Saturday and Sunday.
— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) April 7, 2016
NFL is full speed ahead to China in 2018, but not everybody is on board. https://t.co/cXkNxO0G2r
— NFL on ESPN (@ESPNNFL) April 7, 2016
AgamemnonParticipantIts hard for me to believe they dont have a pretty good
idea of what he is likely to be, but…maybe not.w
vI agree, cause Vermiel and Martz knew what they had in Warner. I think Fisher should too.
April 7, 2016 at 10:12 am in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #41566
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April 7, 2016 – 9:52 amTitans claim interest in #1 pick “picking up” … If new Tennessee G.M. Jon Robinson is to be believed, and who wouldn’t believe an NFL G.M. at this time of the year, the level of interest of other teams in possibly trading up to acquire the #1 pick in this year’s draft has risen from “exploratory” to “more serious”. Robinson said that “with each day we inch closer to the draft, the discussions probably become a little bit more serious, if you will. That’s something we’re going back and forth with. Do we stay put with where we’re at, or do we really entertain the thought of moving? I would say the interest has increased some. I wouldn’t say there are 31 teams calling, but there are certainly teams that have interest in moving up.” Of course, the interest in any possible trades for the top pick isn’t expected to really pick up until San Francisco is able to complete a trade with Denver for QB Colin Kaepernick. If that happens, the 49ers, who pick 7th this year, would likely be looking to move to acquire either of QBs Carson Wentz or Jard Goff. And with other teams with top ten picks, like Dallas (4th) and Philadelphia (8th), both of which have spent an inordinate amount of time scouting the top QB prospects in recent weeks, along with possibly Los Angeles, lurking, the 49ers may be forced to move into that top spot to ensure getting one of the top QBs. That’s of course if none of those other teams beat them to it. Stay tuned!
April 7, 2016 – 9:32 am
QB Lynch wraps pro day schedule … It was an interesting way to wrap up this year’s pro day schedule as Memphis QB Paxton Lynch worked out in near gale conditions yesterday. And given the conditions, Lynch had a pretty good day. Certainly, scouts leaving Memphis had few questions about Lynch’s arm strength which may be as good as that of any QB in this year’s draft. Lynch also showed surprisingly light feet for a guy 6-7 as he moved around the pocket with ease and looked comfortable throwing on the move. Lynch also cane across as an engaging young guy who is cool in the pocket and the huddle. On the other hand, Lynch clearly is not as polished as Carson Wentz of North Dakota State or Cal’s Jared Goff, the two top-rated QBs in this year’s draft. Lynch wasn’t consistently accurate, even on some pretty simple dump off throws as he appeared to aim the ball at times rather than just letting it go; he was also late with some throws that his receivers had to adjust to catch. Lynch’s delivery also appeared to be a little slow at times. But the tools appear to be there; now it’s up to QB-needy NFL teams to figure out just how high he should go.
April 7, 2016 – 9:18 am
GBN Big Board tweaked … With just a month to go before the start of the 2016 draft, the GBN Big Board has been updated. (Note, we’ll be posting our final, or at least as final as it gets, 300+ Big Board on Monday April 25th.) A couple of interesting notes re the way this month’s draft appears to be shaping up. more
April 7, 2016 at 10:09 am in reply to: 2016 mocks & rankings & general draft commentaries, thread 2 #41565
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NFL Draft: Lynch powers through strong winds, impresses at pro day
By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst
April 6, 2016 1:47 pm ETDespite howling crosswinds in the 30-40 miles per hour range, Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch was on point and impressed during his pro day on Wednesday that included 75-plus throws.
Originally scheduled for 1 p.m. on the Tigers’ practice field, the scripted throwing session was moved up half an hour due to the violent winds. However, the strong gusts were no match for Lynch’s rocket arm strength as he showed off his velocity to all levels of the field from flat-outs to deep posts.
The Memphis wide receivers didn’t do him many favors with several drops, but for the most part Lynch’s passes were accurate and gave his targets a chance to make plays. When one of his throws was off-target, it was due to slight issues with his footwork.
Lynch has light feet and showed that on boots and rollouts, but his stride mechanics were not as crisp, which led to some placement issues. And that matches the tape. Lynch has all the physical traits from a size/arm strength/mobility perspective, but the technique is still a work in progress. And it starts from the ground up, refining his footwork and then tweaking his hips and shoulders to properly deliver strikes.
Lynch didn’t seem to let the windy conditions bother him during his pro day. (USATSI)
“I feel very confident from where I was to where I am now (since Combine),” said Lynch after his workout about his footwork. “I just wanted to show these teams what I could do in the short amount of time.”
There were 26 teams on-hand for the workout, including San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Wisenhunt, Buffalo Bills offensive coordinator Greg Roman and several quarterback coaches from around the league. According to several reports, the Bills, who currently own the No. 19 selection in the first round, dined with Lynch on Tuesday night.
Lynch measured at 6-foot-6 5/8-inches and 244 pounds with 34 1/4-inch hands. He focused on throwing at the pro day, standing on most of his numbers from the combine, including a 4.86 40-yard dash. Lynch also had impressive numbers in the vertical (36-inches), broad jump (9-feet-10), short shuttle (4.26) and three-cone drill (7.14).
It wasn’t an ideal setting due to the weather, but Lynch didn’t allow the elements to disrupt his workout and secured his spot as one of the top-three quarterbacks in this draft class.
Where will he land on draft day? That’s the mystery, but it will be tough for a quarterback-needy team in the mid-first round, like the Los Angeles Rams, to pass on his talent.
AgamemnonParticipantESPN NFL Insiders Today (4/6/2016) – Paxton Lynch’s Pro Day, Robert Griffin’s first appearance
Paxton Lynch’s Pro Day: 4/6/16Suzy Kolber, Todd McShay, Mel Kiper, Louis Riddick and Adam Schefter take you inside Paxton Lynch’s pro day. Robert Griffin’s first appearance with the Browns and mock draft 4.0.
They waste 15 minutes talking about RG3.
AgamemnonParticipantPFF scouting report: Jared Goff, QB, Cal
Steve Palazzolo and the PFF draft analysts break down the play of Cal’s Jared Goff ahead of the 2016 NFL draft.
PFF Analysis Team | 6 days ago
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/31/pff-scouting-report-jared-goff-qb-cal/Below is the PFF draft profile for Cal’s Jared Goff, which incorporates PFF’s college grades and scouting intel from our team of analysts. To see all of PFF’s 2016 scouting reports, click here.
Position fit: Starting QB
Stats to know: Our top-ranked quarterback in 2015 after ranking eighth in the nation in 2014. Tied for second in the nation with 12 touchdowns under pressure. Tied for 12th in nation with accuracy percentage of 50.0 percent on deep passes.
What he does best:
• Makes incredible throws with defenders bearing down on him. Fearless in the pocket
• Pocket presence. Moves in the pocket to find passing lanes, keeps his eyes up while maneuvering the pocket
• Processes information quickly, zips through progressions, always keeping body in position to throw
• Will get to second and third reads on backside of field and can make accurate throws late in progression
• Shows outstanding accuracy on “bucket” throws down the field. Can drop it in with touch
• Quick release
• Shows creativity when throwing receivers open. Will lead receivers to space or throw them open with anticipation
• Led an overmatched Cal team and made them competitive in difficult Pac-12
• Showed well both under pressure and against the blitz
• Throws the anticipation post route on time and accuratelyBiggest concern:
• Short area ball location is not ideal, even on completions
• May move around the pocket too much, sometimes compromising the leverage of the offensive line
• Misdiagnosed cover-2 on multiple occasions. Is either fooled pre-snap or predetermining his read without adjustment
• Was more careless with the ball in his final season, had too many turnover-worthy plays
• Has enough arm, but not a cannon. May leave a few plays on the table that can’t be zipped in there.
• Arm strength wanes when forced to reset his feet in the pocket. Will make some throws that lack velocity and float after a quick resetBottom line: Goff has gotten better every year at Cal and his strengths should translate into NFL success. He manages the pocket, fires through progressions, and makes big plays under duress. He helped to turn around a subpar program while dealing with poor offensive line play, elevating the level of his teammates in one of the most difficult conferences in the nation. While he has his limitations, Goff has the tools to succeed as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
AgamemnonParticipantPFF scouting report: Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
Steve Palazzolo and the PFF draft analysts break down the play of Memphis’ Paxton Lynch ahead of the 2016 NFL draft.
PFF Analysis Team | 2 days ago
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/04/04/draft-pff-scouting-report-paxton-lynch-qb-memphis/Below is the PFF draft profile for Memphis’ Paxton Lynch, which incorporates PFF’s college grades and scouting intel from our team of analysts. To see all of PFF’s 2016 scouting reports, click here.
Position fit: Starting QB
Stats to Know: Graded at +30.5 overall in 2015, good for 12th in the nation after a +17.0 finish in 2014 that ranked 21st
What he does best:
— Quick setup and release in the pocket — rare for a QB of his size
— Can use the quick release on run/pass option plays. Gives offense some flexibility
— Threw only three passes beyond 40 yards in the air, but two of them were perfect, on-target strikes on deep posts. May be able to take advantage of the post route against one-on-one coverage at the next level
— Very good touch, had a number of impressive “bucket” throws
— Is athletic for his size, though unlikely he’s a major running threat in the NFL. Has enough to keep the ball on zone read, however
— Shows enough zip to fit passes into tight windows against zone coverage
— Made a few “wow” throws at intermediate and deep levels with perfect accuracy
— Worked back to his second read and completed passes with accuracy
— Keeps his eyes up when on the move, looking to throw from outside the pocket
— Has improved every year since high schoolBiggest concern:
— Accuracy seems to wane when he tries to throw with velocity at the short and intermediate level
— Accuracy at the intermediate level and outside the numbers was poor (49.0 percent accuracy percentage, among the lowest in the nation)
— Average accuracy between 21 and 40 yards
— A high percentage of his throws were either screens or designed rollouts
— Generally a good decision maker, but did have a few throws in which he failed to see an underneath zone defender
— Had a lot of wide open throws on coverage busts
— Missed on quite a few back shoulder throws. May have issues beating tight man coverage on the outside
— Has some ugly throws very late in the progression, either poor decisions throwing into coverage or inaccuracy
— Inconsistent when throwing on the run
— Hits lulls where his accuracy is all over the placeBottom line:
There’s a lot to like about Lynch’s game, especially given his continued development since high school. He throws accurately to the intermediate level, but coming out of a quirky system that featured a high number of screens and rollouts, there’s some projection to Lynch’s game as a 30-plus dropback passer at the next level. He’s solid across the board in many areas, and he has a skillset to build around at the next level, though he’s a step below some of the other QBs in the class.
AgamemnonParticipantPFF scouting report: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
Steve Palazzolo and the PFF draft analysts break down the play of North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz ahead of the 2016 NFL draft.
PFF Analysis Team | 2 days ago
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/04/04/pff-scouting-report-carson-wentz-qb-north-dakota-state/Below is the PFF draft profile for North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz, which incorporates PFF’s college grades and scouting intel from our team of analysts. To see all of PFF’s 2016 scouting reports, click here.
Position fit: Starting QB
Stats to know: Finished with the ninth-overall grade in the draft class, but had the best raw grade per dropback. Accuracy percentage of 38.5 percent on deep (20+ yard) passes ranked 29th in the draft class. Accuracy percentage of 57.1 percent when pressured tied for 27th in the draft class.
What he does best:
• Arm stands out. Throws with great velocity
• Can fire the ball in there on the deep out/comeback. Made far-hash throws look easy at the college level
• Arm strength on comebacks and seam routes make him a prime candidate for a vertical passing system
• Did a nice job finding the open man and moving the chains in the 1-10 yard range, even if his timing was less than ideal at times
• Did a nice job as a designed runner and as a scrambler in college. Can pick up yards on the ground, but not sure how much his future team will want him to do so at the next level
• Throws with anticipation on first-read throws, can zip the curl route before the wide receiver’s break
• “Shows” touch, but it’s often a much slower throwing motion and his accuracy is hit or miss
• Ranked second in the draft class in adjusted completion percentage at the intermediate (11-20 yard) range at 70.7 percent
• Inexperience. Has his warts, but given how few snaps he’s played, ceiling remains highBiggest concerns:
• Slow to process in the passing game. Will be late on short and intermediate throws, but arm strength bails him out. Will this still work at the next level?
• Rarely got to a third read in his progression, even when running common, staple passing concepts. Their boot play had three options and Wentz would regularly miss the third receiver, even when the first two receivers were covered
• Inexperienced. Much of Wentz’s lure is the physical size and arm, but will he progress and maximize his potential?
• Accuracy at 21-30 yard range was well below average, his adjusted completion percentage of 43.5 percent ranked 23rd in the draft class. For a big-armed quarterback, has to take advantage of throws in this range to maximize his potential
• Not always nimble maneuvering the pocket. Attempted only eight passes after breaking the pocket and completed one for negative-five yardsBottom line: There’s a lot to like about Wentz, but still so many question marks. The size and big arm stand out, and it’s not just aesthetics – his velocity is an asset at the short and intermediate range at the next level. The concern is whether or not the big arm loses accuracy beyond 20 yards to be effective. He’ll flash some touch on the deep ball, but it’s far too inconsistent at this point. Wentz would fit well into a vertical passing offense that will allow him to zip throws into the 15-25 yard range while moving the ball in chunks. His lack of timing in the passing game is a major concern, but if he can iron it out, the upside is immense. Any team drafting Wentz is banking on huge improvement in a number of areas, but given his relative lack of experience, the gamble may just be worthwhile.
AgamemnonParticipantProbably it is easier to replace him than to fix him. If he is fixable?
btw, there is no cap hit to cutting him. His money is already charged to the cap. (see cap web sites.)
I didn’t want to sign him. But it wasn’t crazy either. Either had its upside and downside. The Rams just choose plan B. It was almost a coin flip. Hidesight is 20/20.
AgamemnonParticipantAnd this may surprise you. but at least one evaluation at Rams Park had Tim Barnes as the team’s highest-rated offensive lineman in 2015.
That’s interesting.
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Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
just kidding. 😉
AgamemnonParticipanta strong arm and some mobility. but serious questions about ability to make quick decisions and read defenses.
i do like him better than cook.
He is the GRob/BQuick of QBs, lot of potential, lot of learning. imo
AgamemnonParticipantApril 5, 2016 at 11:41 am in reply to: Is everything in the Universe made of the same 'thing'? #41478
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AgamemnonParticipanthttp://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000650304/article/paxton-lynchs-draft-range-rams-broncos-cowboys-among-fits
Paxton Lynch’s draft range: Rams, Broncos, Cowboys among fitsBy Bucky Brooks
NFL Media analyst
Published: April 4, 2016 at 04:33 p.m.
Updated: April 4, 2016 at 05:25 p.m.The pre-draft process is an intel-gathering mission on prospective employees. And although certain prospects tend to attract groupthink in the scouting community, others generate the varied opinions that come from 32 different franchises with 32 unique approaches to talent evaluation. Former NFL player and scout Bucky Brooks is taking a closer at some of the most notable — and polarizing — prospects in the 2016 NFL Draft, to determine draft range and team fits.
Click here for all of the prospects in this Ceiling/Floor series.
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Today’s subject: Memphis quarterback Paxton LynchCEILING: Top half of the first round — San Francisco 49ers (No. 7 overall), Philadelphia Eagles (No. 8), Chicago Bears (No. 11), Los Angeles Rams (No. 15).
FLOOR: Low first round/early second round — Arizona Cardinals (No. 29), Denver Broncos (No. 31), Dallas Cowboys (No. 34), San Diego Chargers (No. 35).
LYNCH’S PRO DAY: April 6.
What I likeLynch is an athletic dual-threat playmaker with exceptional size, movement skills and arm talent. It is hard to find a 6-foot-7, 244-pounder capable of executing the zone read and quarterback power while also possessing the ability to throw fastballs to the perimeter from the pocket or on the move. That’s why scouts have been salivating over Lynch’s potential as a franchise quarterback since he burst onto the national scene with a spectacular performance (39 of 53 for 384 yards with three touchdowns and a pick) in the Tigers’ 37-24 win over Ole Miss last October. Lynch has all of the physical tools to shine in any offense, but it is his combination of arm talent and athleticism that has piqued the interest of creative offensive minds. Play designers with extensive experience melding RPOs (run-pass options), sprint-out passes, bootlegs and traditional concepts could view Lynch as the ultimate prospect to develop as a franchise quarterback. Although he is far from a finished product as a dropback passer and lacks extensive reps taking the ball from under center, Lynch could quickly master those maneuvers and become a deadly playmaker from the pocket.
Studying the All-22 coaches tape, Lynch’s arm talent is intoxicating. It is hard to find a passer capable of delivering the ball with more zip and velocity — to every area of the field — as effortlessly as Lynch. He fires the ball to the boundary from the opposite hash on a rope. The combination of ball speed and placement makes his passes nearly impossible for defenders to catch despite terrific anticipation or timing. Thus, Lynch could develop into an exceptional tight-window passer at the next level when he understands his limitations as a gunslinger.
Why the range?Despite Lynch’s immense potential as a franchise quarterback, there are plenty of concerns surrounding the Memphis standout. He entered the NFL early, after his redshirt junior season, and will need some time to acclimate to the speed and tempo of the pro game. In addition, Lynch spent his college days in a spread offense that prominently featured RPOs, bubble screens and quick routes. Thus, he hasn’t been exposed to complex passing concepts (full-field reads or pure-progression passes) and his lack of experience with those tactics could make it tough for him to get onto the field — unless a coach is willing to use part of Memphis’ offensive system in the basic game plan.
The lack of elite competition is also a concern for scouts evaluating Lynch. The Tigers played in the American Athletic Conference, and last season, Lynch faltered in the team’s three biggest conference games (Navy, Houston and Temple) down the stretch. Most importantly, he struggled mightily against Auburn in a Birmingham Bowl performance (16 of 37 for 106 yards and an interception) that exposed his flaws as a playmaker on a big stage. Although Lynch’s supporters point to the circumstances affecting his play — Memphis head coach Justin Fuente accepted a job at Virginia Tech and didn’t coach the bowl game — the fact that Lynch didn’t perform well in a series of big games raises some concern over his ability to lead his team to the winner’s circle.
Where would he excel?It is important for any team considering Lynch as a franchise quarterback to entertain the possibility of blending some of the RPO concepts and lay-ups (bubble screens and quicks) into the game plan, to help him find his footing as a young playmaker. In addition, I believe a team with a strong running game and a diverse, complementary play-action passing attack would be a great fit for Lynch, based on his inexperience as a traditional dropback passer. Thus, teams like Denver and Los Angeles strike me as ideal environments for Lynch to grow into a franchise guy. The Broncos, in particular, have a structure in place (strong running game and dominant defense) to help Lynch slowly develop as a playmaker. He could lean on the C.J. Anderson-led ground attack, thus allowing him to throw high-percentage passes off run-action plays on various flood concepts and half-field reads. Also, Lynch could focus on learning how to manage the game with a nasty defense that’s capable of holding the score down.
The Rams offer Lynch a terrific opportunity to play alongside a pair of electric talents (Todd Gurley and Tavon Austin). Moreover, he would play for a coach (Jeff Fisher) who is comfortable featuring an athletic quarterback. Fisher enjoyed success with Steve McNair and Vince Young at the helm in Tennessee; he could take advantage of Lynch’s running skills and mobility as a complement to the Rams’ hard-hitting rushing attack. In addition, he would give the Rams a young, dynamic quarterback to build around for the foreseeable future.
The Cowboys and Chargers also would qualify as good landing spots for Lynch, based on the presence of a veteran quarterback and experienced quarterback teachers. Each team needs to identify a young signal caller to develop for a prominent role down the road; Lynch could be an intriguing prospect to groom.
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AgamemnonParticipantwhen evaluating I start with swag..all top qb’s have a narcissist type confidence. They are the ones who succeed in the 4th quarter. In fact out of 16 Meyer Briggs personality typesThe FBI uses Meyer Briggs. many of the Hall of Fame qb’s have the exact same personality type…Forget that “face of the franchise” bs…you want a rebel. The QB who is willing to call his own plays and lead in the 4th quarter. Swagger
2nd touch/vision. Can they throw to their te’s, can they loft a ball over a lb and in front of a safety and most importantly can they find a te/wr in the back of the end zone in the red zone..either they have it or they don’t.
3rd size/arm decent height/weight to survive and and at least an average NFL arm. Lot of stars in spread offenses lack the arm strength to hit wr’s on deep outs.
pocket presence/courage feel inside the pocket and courage to take a hit to make a play.
ability to throw accurately on the move and using different throwing angles. Can’t count on a clean pocket. All college qb’s should complete 60% of their passes but how well they can throw into tight windows matters more.
They give a nice short run down on most of the players in the draft.
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I found my Karraker quote. At ~34 seconds into the podcast, he says “The Rams would have drafted Conner Cook, if he would have come out, at number 10.” Michigan State Football HC Mark Dantonio talks about Cook ~8:50.If you trust Karraker and his source, then the Rams were serious about Cook last year.
I think Fisher likes TALL QBs. 😉
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Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State
Height: 6-2. Weight: 226. Arm: 31.38. Hand: 9.88.
40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2016): 2-3.
3/31/16: Prescott is a fast-rising prospect after numerous teams fell in love with him at the Senior Bowl. They love his football I.Q., leadership skills and character. They feel he has the ability to quickly be a captain in a NFL locker room and a leader of men. At the combine, Prescott had a solid workout to maintain his rising status. However shortly after the combine, Prescott landed a DUI arrest to put a damper on the enthusiasm for him.Prescott completed 66 percent of his passes in 2015 for 3,793 yards with 29 touchdowns and five interceptions. On the ground, he totaled 588 yards with 10 scores. Sources say they view Prescott as Tim Tebow 2.0 from playing in the same offense, though Prescott has better throwing mechanics and functions better out of the pocket than Tebow did entering the draft. They think Prescott needs to become a better pocket passer.
8/8/15: Prescott completed 61 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,449 yards with 27 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. He averaged 4.7 yards per carry for 986 yards with 14 scores on the ground. Prescott underwhelmed against Alabama, but that was really the only game of the season in which he struggled.
Prescott’s play has been somewhat reminiscent of Tim Tebow at Florida because Prescott is playing in the same offense for Tebow’s former offensive coordinator, Dan Mullen, the Mississippi State head coach. Like Tebow, Prescott needs to improve his pocket passing and accuracy for the NFL.
In 2013, Prescott completed 58 percent of his passes for 940 yards with 10 touchdowns and seven interceptions.
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Cardale Jones*, QB, Ohio State
Height: 6-5. Weight: 253. Hand: 9.75.
40 Time: 4.81.
Projected Round (2016): 2-4.
3/31/16: At Ohio State’s pro day, Jones showed off his rifle of an arm and helped himself with an impressive workout. In 2015, Jones displayed his big arm and great skill set, but must get better at reading the field and with his passing technique. He was undefeated in his 11 starts in college, but with so little playing time, needing development is understandable. Jones entered the 2016 NFL Draft rather than return to Ohio State.Jones completed 63 percent of his passes in 2015 for 1,460 yards with eight touchdowns and five interceptions. Aside from his right-arm cannon, he also displayed his running ability and how difficult he is to sack with his huge size. Jones is very physically gifted, but he’s raw and needs to gain experience.
8/8/15: Jones put on a display in 2014 after entering the starting lineup behind Braxton Miller and J.T. Barrett. Jones has great size and a cannon for an arm. In his three starts, he completed 61 percent of his passes for 860 yards with seven touchdowns and two interceptions. Jones has a lot of upside and it will be fun to watch him in 2015, assuming he wins the starting job over J.T. Barrett.
Jones needs to improve his ability to throw while under heat. He also needs to get faster working through his progressions, moving his eyes and getting rid of the ball. Jones can hold onto the ball too long when plays start to break down on him. When Jones has a clean pocket, he displays the ability to make any throw the NFL asks for. While Jones is a pocket passer, he will take yards on the ground when available and has some athleticism as a runner. Jones can be tough to bring down for defenders in or out of the pocket.
Sources from multiple teams said that they view Jones as having a first-round skill set and if performed for an entire season the way he played in his three starts, he would be a first-rounder. Teams have questions about Jones’ football I.Q. and off-the-field maturity, so his pre-draft interviews will be important to address those questions.
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Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State
Height: 6-4. Weight: 234. Hand: 9.
40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2016): 2-4.
3/31/16: At the combine, Hackenberg continued to show brilliance on some passes and a lack of accuracy on others. He did better in the athletic measurements than many thought he would do. Hackenberg had a mixed showing in the team interviews. He did well with recall and football I.Q., but teams feel that Hackenberg was too quick to blame other issues for some of his own mistakes.In 2015, Hackenberg completed 54 percent of his passes for 2,525 yards and 16 touchdowns with six interceptions. He had terrible games against Rutgers and Temple, but good outings against Buffalo, San Diego State, Indiana and Illinois.
Clearly, Hackenberg needs to improve his accuracy and decision-making, but the junior was playing in a bad situation with a weak offensive line and receivers. Over the last two seasons, Hackenberg routinely made some beautiful throws that were dropped by his receivers, but also missed too often on routine completions.
Hackenberg is a pro-style quarterback who was forced to play in a college spread offense that didn’t fit him well at all. Sources say that Penn State head coach James Franklin beat Hackenberg down and handled him terribly. Teams also admire that Hackenberg could have transferred in the face of a lot of adversity for the program, but he stayed committed to trying to help get things headed in the right direction in Happy Valley.
In speaking with sources, some teams grade Hackenberg on the third day of the 2016 NFL Draft as a fourth-rounder, but others have graded him in Round 3. Even the teams that graded him after the third round expect him to be selected on the second day. One general manager said Hackenberg has just average accuracy and is a statue in the pocket. There also were reports about Hackenberg being disliked in the locker room and not a leader, but in speaking with Buccaneers left tackle Donovan Smith – a former Nittany Lion – and Penn State defensive end Carl Nassib, they both dismissed that, saying Hackenberg wasn’t a finger pointer and did everything asked of him. Nassib was shocked to hear of those reports and said that Hackenberg was a great teammate.
8/8/15: Hackenberg completed 56 percent of his passes in 2014 for 2,677 yards with 12 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. He played better than the numbers indicate as his supporting cast was a huge liability, including an awful offensive line. Hackenberg closed out the 2014 season with a huge comeback overtime win over Boston College, completing 34-of-50 for 371 yards and four touchdowns.
In terms of a skill set, Hackenberg has what the NFL is looking for with a size, pocket presence, field-vision potential and a strong arm that can push the ball downfield. James Franklin’s offense didn’t help Hackenberg develop much as a NFL pocket-passer prospect last season as so many of the play calls were instant throws because of a weak offensive line that couldn’t maintain its blocks. Hackenberg needs to improve his ball placement and decision-making in some areas, but his supporting cast really hurt him last year. At times, Hackenberg makes some brilliant throws downfield after working off his first read, and if he does that regularly as a junior, he could be a high first-rounder.
Hackenberg was the star recruit for Bill O’Brien and proved the hype legit during an impressive freshman season that saw him named the Big Ten Freshman of the Year. Hackenberg completed 59 percent of his passes for 2,955 yards with 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 2013. He also ran for four touchdowns. Sources in the NFL feel that Hackenberg could end up being an elite quarterback prospect.
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Jacoby Brissett, QB, N.C. State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 231. Arm: 32.88. Hand. 9.5.
40 Time: 4.94.
Projected Round (2016): 3-5.
3/31/16: In 2015, Brissett completed 60 percent of his passes for 2,662 yards with 20 touchdowns and six interceptions. Sources with teams say that Brissett is a sleeper quarterback who they’re keeping an eye on. As we reported in the rumormill, some east coast scouts rate Brissett ahead of other more highly touted prospects like Penn State’s Christian Hackenberg. Other sources aren’t fans of Brissett. He had a decent week at the Senior Bowl, but didn’t light a fire under his draft stock. That was the same outcome of his combine workout. Brissett’s more of a mid-round developmental backup.8/8/15: 2014 saw Brissett complete 60 percent of his passes for 2,344 yards with 22 touchdowns and five interceptions. He showed potential as a pocket passer. Brissett was on fire against a lot of weak competition even before he lit up Florida State (32-of-48 for 359 yards with three touchdowns). Brissett sat out the 2013 season per NCAA rules after transferring from Florida. He spent 2012 as Jeff Driskel’s backup. Brissett played a little as a freshman backup during the 1-year tenure of Charlie Weis as Florida’s offensive coordinator.
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Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford
Height: 6-2. Weight: 217. Arm: 32. Hand: 10.13.
40 Time: 4.78.
Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
3/31/16: As a senior, Hogan completed 68 percent of his passes for 2,867 yards with 27 touchdowns and eight interceptions. In his good games, he looked like an early rounder; in his bad games, he looked like an undrafted free agent. Hogan has a good enough skill set to play as a pro, but looks more like a backup-caliber signal-caller in the NFL. He has a decent arm, but lacks the arm strength of the top quarterbacks. Sources have said they like Hogan’s intelligence to become a quality backup quarterback quickly in his NFL career.8/8/15: In 2014, Hogan completed 66 percent of his passes for 2,792 yards with 19 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He had five rushing touchdowns, too. Hogan was still streaky as a passer, looking inept at times and throwing excellent passes on other attempts. He needs to become more consistent in order to rise as a senior.
Hogan wasn’t as good as expected in 2013 as Stanford’s passing attack was underwhelming. For the year, he completed 61 percent of his passes for 2,630 yards with 20 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Hogan averaged 4.5 yards per carry for 314 yards on the ground with two touchdowns, too.
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Brandon Allen, QB, Arkansas
Height: 6-1. Weight: 214. Arm: 30.5. Hand: 8.5.
40 Time: 4.84.
Projected Round (2016): 4-6.
3/31/16: Allen was a game-manager quarterback for Arkansas the past few seasons, but as a senior, he produced some big plays, leading the Razorbacks to overtime wins over Auburn and Ole Miss. In 2015, Allen completed 66 percent of his passes for 3,440 yards with 30 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He became a nice college quarterback, but he doesn’t look like he has a starter’s skill set for the NFL. He could be a quality backup.Allen had a respectable week at the Senior Bowl. Some sources say they liked him as a late-round or undrafted free agent to compete for their third quarterback spot, but he could go in the early rounds of Day 3.
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Nate Sudfeld, QB, Indiana
Height: 6-5. Weight: 240. Hand: 9.88.
Projected 40 Time: 4.90.
Projected Round (2016): 5-7.
3/31/16: Sudfeld completed 61 percent of his passes this season for 3,184 yards with 24 touchdowns and five interceptions. He has good size and a strong arm, but he needs to get faster in his delivery. Sudfeld also has to improve his accuracy, ball placement and field vision, plus play faster. He had a quality week at the East-West Shrine and is a late-round developmental candidate.8/8/15: Sudfeld missed half of the 2014 season over a season-ending shoulder injury. 2013 saw him complete 60 percent of his passes for 2,523 yards with 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions.
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Vernon Adams Jr., QB, Oregon
Height: 5-11. Weight: 200. Hand: 9.13.
40 Time: 4.84.
Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
3/31/16: Adams had a solid senior year for Oregon, completing 65 percent for 2,643 yards with 26 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has a quality arm, athleticism, touch on his passes and nice field vision. The lack of size is the huge negative for Adams. While he has some similarities to Russell Wilson, the odds of Adams panning out like Wilson are extremely remote. Prior to playing for Oregon, Adams played at Eastern Washington. He was slower at the combine than expected.image: http://walterfootball.com/images/draftwired.jpg
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Cody Kessler, QB, USC
Height: 6-1. Weight: 224. Arm: 32. Hand: 9.88.
40 Time: 4.89.
Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
3/31/16: In 2015, Kessler threw for 3,536 yards with 29 touchdowns and seven interceptions while completing 67 percent of his passes. If he had a better physical skill set, he would be rated higher, but he is undersized. Kessler’s lack of arm strength looks like a real weakness for the NFL. He did not impress at the Senior Bowl. Kessler looks like a game-manager backup quarterback in the NFL.8/8/15: Kessler completed 71 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,505 yards with 36 touchdowns and four interceptions. He was an effective game-manager for the Trojans. Kessler is undersized and could be lacking in his physical skill set to be a starter for the NFL. He needs to prove that wrong as a senior. Kessler was considering entering the 2015 NFL Draft, but decided to return to USC.
It took some time, but Kessler eventually won the starting quarterback spot for USC to replace Matt Barkley, and Kessler has improved as he gained experience. Kessler completed 65 percent of his passes in 2013 for 2,968 yards with 20 touchdowns and seven interceptions.
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Jacob Coker, QB, Alabama
Height: 6-5. Weight: 236. Arm: 31.38. Hand: 9.88.
Projected 40 Time: 4.88.
Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
3/31/16: Coker had a rocky start to the 2015 season, but played better to help lead Alabama to a National Championship. He completed 67 percent of his passes in 2015 for 3,110 yards with 21 touchdowns and eight interceptions. The senior did not work out at the combine.Coker has good size and a strong arm, but looks like a project for the NFL. He has a long windup in his delivery and lacks athleticism in the pocket. Coker didn’t impress at the Senior Bowl. As one source said, “Coker is a poor man’s Mike Glennon.”
8/8/15: Coker was Blake Sims’ backup last season. Coker has a good skill set, but he needs to be the starter and effective to rise.
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Matt Johnson, QB, Bowling Green
Height: 6-0. Weight: 219.
Projected 40 Time: 4.83.
Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
3/31/16: Sources say that Johnson is a Case Keenum-type quarterback prospect. Johnson has a decent arm and is a gamer, but limited for the next level. The redshirt senior completed 67 percent of his passes this season for 4,946 yards with 46 touchdowns and eight interceptions. He did not work out at the combine.Johnson missed almost all of 2014 with an injury, but completed 64 percent of his passes the year before for 3,467 yards with 25 touchdowns and seven interceptions.
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Brandon Doughty, QB, Western Kentucky
Height: 6-2. Weight: 213. Hand: 9.13.
40 Time: 5.22.
Projected Round (2016): 6-FA.
3/31/16: Doughty has some vocal fan supporters based off his production and video-game stat line, but in speaking with sources, they haven’t mentioned Doughty as a pro prospect who they’re impressed with. He doesn’t have an NFL arm or skill set, and was unimpressive at the East-West Shrine.In 2015, the senior completed 72 percent of his passes for 5,055 yards with 48 touchdowns and nine interceptions. Doughty completed 68 percent of his passes in 2014 for 4,830 yards with 49 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
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Jeff Driskel, QB, Louisiana Tech
Height: 6-3. Weight: 230. Arm: 32.5. Hand: 9.75.
40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2016): 7-FA.
3/31/16: Driskel has the skill set to be a quality NFL starting quarterback. He is big, athletic and has the arm strength to make all the throws. That was clear at the combine where he worked out extremely well. However, Driskel doesn’t have the mentality of a pro signal-caller. While at Florida, he was a disaster with turnovers, poor accuracy, and taking an offense that had pro talent and making it inept.In 2014, Driskel had future NFL running backs (Matt Jones and Kelvin Taylor), a wide receiver with first-round talent (Demarcus Robinson), and future pro offensive linemen (D.J. Humphries and Max Garcia), yet still struggled to move the ball. Driskel completed 54 percent of his passes that season for 1,140 yards with nine touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
Driskel transferred to Louisiana Tech and beat up on the weak competition in 2015, completing 62 percent of his passes for 4,033 yards with 27 touchdowns and eight interceptions. At the Senior Bowl, his skill set flashed at times, but he didn’t play well enough to undo the damage done by his play at Florida. Sources say that they’ve given Driskel an undrafted grade.
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Travis Wilson, QB, Utah
Height: 6-6. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.85.
Projected Round (2016): 7-FA.
3/31/16: In 2015, Wilson completed 65 percent of his throws for 2,095 yards with 13 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He has big size and an arm, but isn’t a NFL passer. Wilson didn’t work out at the combine.8/8/15: Wilson completed 60 percent of his passes in 2014 for 2,012 yards with 17 touchdowns and four interceptions. He was in and out of the lineup on top of being benched at times. Wilson has a good size and a nice arm but has to get more consistent. He completed 56 percent of his passes in 2013 for 1,827 yards with 16 touchdowns and 16 interceptions across nine games.
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AgamemnonParticipantApril 3, 2016 at 1:12 pm in reply to: Foles, the meltdown of a QB or a rookie who never got better? #41401
AgamemnonParticipantOk, will we ever see the good Foles again? Then, will Fisher draft a QB?
I think he drafts Cook. If he would draft him last year over Gurley(assuming Karraker was right), then he would draft him this year at 10.
But, then, he went ahead and drafted Mannion.
Fisher said they would add a QB. But that could just be an udfa. 😉
Keenum is a FA next year and Foles cap cost is 13M+. That makes drafting a QB high very sensible.
If Lynch drops, is it Lynch or Cook?
Will Fisher trade up? How High? He did for Austin, but he didn’t for Gurley. But, that might have just been how Snead read the draft. This is a good draft to get a QB at almost any pick. imo
AgamemnonParticipanthttp://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6530/colin-kaepernick
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports the Broncos have a trade in place for Colin Kaepernick.
The deal is expected to be for a mid-round pick. The Broncos and 49ers have agreed on compensation, but Kaepernick’s contract remains a holdup. Denver wants Kaepernick to take a $5 million pay cut, and the sides reportedly aren’t close on a restructure. Kaepernick should eventually end up in Denver, but it’s likely going to take an incentives-based deal. Apr 2 – 5:47 PM
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