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November 1, 2020 at 4:41 pm #123685znModerator
𝕋𝕠𝕞 – 𝕃𝔸 ℝ𝕒𝕞𝕤@TL_LARams
The offensive genius Sean McVay has had years to come up with a suitable counter to this style of defense, and he just hasn’t done it.DOWNTOWN RAMS [DTR]@DowntownRams
Lost in all the unfortunate parts of this loss…Jared Goff threw his 100th touchdown pass.ProFootballReference@pfref
Tua Tagovailoa is the first left-handed QB to win an NFL game since Michael Vick in 2015Cameron DaSilva@camdasilva
Forbath tries the 48-yarder and misses it WAY low and leftThat’ll probably do it. Complete disaster on offense and special teams
SeattleRams@seattlerams_nfl
It’s nice to see that poor run defender, Aaron Donald showed up again todaysweet feet on Akers
BTHRams@BTH_Rams
Just a rough, rough, rough day offensively.Line was forced into longer protection schemes and failed. Jared was horrible both mentally and passing-wise. McVay just completely outworked and just so unwilling to lean into the run.
November 1, 2020 at 4:42 pm #123686znModeratorGame Recap: Rams fall to Dolphins 28-17 https://t.co/6wUoyPeczG
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) November 1, 2020
November 1, 2020 at 4:42 pm #123687znModeratorDolphins knock off Rams in Tua Tagovailoa's first start https://t.co/LRMHhCWS3J
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) November 1, 2020
November 1, 2020 at 4:56 pm #123689znModeratorThat kick is flatter than sam sloaman #RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/mFQrkV2gpk
— LA Rams Fan Club (@LARamsFC) November 1, 2020
November 1, 2020 at 4:59 pm #123690znModerator𝕋𝕠𝕞 – 𝕃𝔸 ℝ𝕒𝕞𝕤@TL_LARams
Goff 1st pick. Not a blitz, as Dolphins only rushed four. One guy completely unblocked. Two defenders lined up to blitz then dropped to cover Kupp on quick underneath route. All other routes deep. Flores had McVay’s number completely here.He knew where the pressure was coming from. That’s why he threw it quickly. What he didn’t read was the dropping defenders. The play called for a quick throw to Kupp when pressured. He should have seen the defender and threw at Kupp’s feet. But the play could not have succeeded.
Goff should have thrown away or at Kupp’s feet, but seems play was doomed from the get go
Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Tua Tagovailoa is the first rookie to win a game against the Rams since the start of the 2013 season. Other rookie QBs had gone 0-6 against them since then.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
John Johnson did say that the team missed Jalen Ramsey’s “raw energy” today but adds that David Long played well despite giving up a tough touchdown.November 1, 2020 at 5:10 pm #123691znModeratorGoff fumble TD. Look how the D is lined up. Hendo runs right by the free blitzer. Wonder if he should have chipped him. Goff is waiting for Everett to get open on the bottom of the screen. Should have read blitzer and hit Reynolds who was wide open underneath. pic.twitter.com/y8L8qWVCQh
— 𝕋𝕠𝕞 – 𝕃𝔸 ℝ𝕒𝕞𝕤 (@TL_LARams) November 1, 2020
November 1, 2020 at 7:00 pm #123698znModeratorOnly one other team in NFL history has lost the way the Rams did in Week 8
Cameron DaSilva
If you didn’t watch the Rams-Dolphins game on Sunday and just glanced at the box score, there’s no way you’d think Miami won the game – let alone, won it by 11 points. The Rams dominated every statistical category over the Dolphins, from total yards to first downs to time of possession.
They outgained the Dolphins 471 to 145, had 31 first downs to Miami’s eight, averaged 5.1 yards per play compared to only 3.0 for the Dolphins, and converted on seven of their 17 third-down attempts. The Dolphins, on the other hand, were 3-for-12 on third down.
The one area where the Rams lost – besides the scoreboard, of course – was the turnover battle. Los Angeles gave the ball away four times and only created two turnovers, which was the difference in the game.
Incredibly, only one other team in NFL history has lost a game where they gained 450-plus yards on offense and held their opponent to less than 150 yards. That team is the 2000 Jets, who lost to the Ravens 34-20 in Week 17. The Jets had 524 yards and held the Ravens to only 142 yards, but like the Rams, they had too many turnovers (six).
It’s hard to fathom how Los Angeles lost this game, but it’s also hard to win when you give the ball away four times and allow an 88-yard punt return for a touchdown. Things went south quickly after Jared Goff fumbled the ball deep in Miami’s territory, which was scooped up and returned 78 yards for a touchdown. Less than two minutes later, Jakeem Grant brought a punt back for a touchdown to put the Dolphins up 21-7.
It’s a tough pill to swallow for Los Angeles, especially given the way the defense played, but Sean McVay and his players will have plenty of time to mull it over during their Week 9 bye.
November 1, 2020 at 10:25 pm #123704znModeratorAs Rams assess an offensive implosion, it’s time for soul-searching: The Pile
Jourdan Rodrigue
https://theathletic.com/2173539/2020/11/01/rams-offense-jared-goff-dolphins/?source=twittered
I don’t know where to start, and maybe that’s fitting because on Sunday in Miami, the Rams’ offense didn’t either.
They suffered a good old-fashioned tail-whipping at the hands of Dolphins head coach Brian Flores and his defensive front seven, a group that completely blew open the game and baffled … no, stunned … no, embarrassed quarterback Jared Goff, head coach Sean McVay and an offense that, usually a darling, is teetering into discombobulation and disarray.
Flores sent his defensive line, and a crowd of a supporting cast, on more zero-pressures than the Rams expected or had seen before. Goff started the game 2-for-8, and was so off — and the pressure plan was working so well — that Flores stopped putting players back deep because there was no fear the Rams would make it to the second level in the air.
“They just brought as many as they could,” said Michael Brockers, who graciously assessed the situation for media through the eyes of a defensive tackle. “They brought more than we could block. That’s how it felt, like they had 11 guys on the line of scrimmage. We had all our wide receivers one-on-one and once you snapped the ball, everybody was coming.
“To be honest with you, I had never seen that before that many times. That was zero-pressure, man-to-man and (Goff) has to get the ball out fast because there is an unblocked player (coming off the edge).”
The Dolphins pressured Goff on 33 percent of his dropbacks on Sunday, the highest pressure he’s faced this season. They do that to quarterbacks every week at the highest rate of any team in the NFL. So the Rams knew it was coming.
But as Brockers noted, they put a little twist on things this week, including more all-out blitzes than usual. And against their zero-pressure, time and again, the Rams came up “empty” — literally.
For some reason, the Rams kept lining up in empty sets (no running back in the backfield, with everybody on the line of scrimmage) deep into the third quarter, to disastrous effect. They even did it on a second-and-2, showing an obvious passing situation (on second-and-2!) and plating it up all too tantalizingly for a hungry, talented defensive line. The ball was intercepted.
Goff went on to throw a second interception and also had the ball stripped on two sacks, losing it twice, for four turnovers. Two of his turnovers were out of empty sets. He also nearly threw a pick out of an empty set in the third quarter. Two of those turnovers led to touchdowns. The Dolphins stacked a third score on a punt return.
What is supposed to happen on those plays?
“You pick up the blitz,” receiver Robert Woods said, “Goff avoids the free-rusher, you dump it off to the open receiver — should have a lot of space the way they were playing it — and make one guy miss and have a lot of running space.”
But part of the issue on those sets was Goff not getting the ball out quick enough. Sometimes they did not have a route matched for the situation available because a receiver or running back stayed blocked (if a back is on the line of scrimmage and not in the backfield he can attract an immediate blocker instead of using lateral space). Batted balls especially were an issue on Sunday. Goff had six passes tapped by opposing players, including two near-interceptions.
“Not even close to good enough on my part, and throughout the whole game,” Goff said. “Just need to be better. Got to be better. I will be. … They did a good job applying some pressure. … We did not respond quickly enough, or well enough.”
Brockers wondered, when I asked him directly about solutions to such pressure, whether screens, draws or running back outlets may have helped. And the Rams finally did go to the shorter game, but not until the fourth quarter.
The failure to adjust to the Dolphins’ pressure was compounded by McVay straying from the run game. Goff threw 61 passes, completing 35, yet the Rams ran the ball only 29 times via their trio of running backs, and only 11 times in the second half.
In part, of course, football logic dictates that a team must pass when facing a deficit, to eat up larger pieces of the field in a shorter amount of time. Lead running back Darrell Henderson also left the game in the second half with a thigh injury and did not return, but in his place, rookie Cam Akers showed promise on the Rams’ second, and ultimately final, scoring drive.
Sure, pass attempts mostly skew larger in a deficit, and maybe the Henderson injury pushed things that way for the Rams, too. But the Dolphins were eating Goff alive via their pass rush, and he even missed throws when he got a clean pocket (including one would-be touchdown to receiver Cooper Kupp in the second half).
The Dolphins also have one of the worst rushing defenses in football, worse than the Buffalo Bills, against whom the Rams mounted a near-miraculous comeback (from a larger deficit!) in Week 3 because McVay staunchly refused to stop running the ball. That specific decision lingers as McVay’s best of the year. But this one, I simply don’t understand.
“This is a sick taste in your mouth,” McVay said. “I’m looking inward. I have got to do a better job. I can’t wait to look at this and work to get it fixed. That’s all I know how to do. We’ve got a lot of football left.”
The Rams are now 5-3 and limping into their bye week. It’s not time for rest, however. It’s time for some real soul-searching.
“Who are we going to be, moving forward? That’s the biggest thing,” Brockers said. “We have to get better, and we know that. … It’s good that we have a bye week so that we can set (focus) on our next opponent, and just come in and get better. We can’t do anything about this loss. It’s over. We just have to look forward.”
Welcome to The Pile. Let’s start poking around.
Jalen Ramsey sits out with an illness
Star cornerback Jalen Ramsey was absent from Sunday’s game with what the Rams described as an “illness.” McVay said Ramsey woke up not feeling well, and that he went through subsequent testing and protocol to ensure that he was able to fly back to Los Angeles with the team.
A source confirmed the illness was not related to COVID-19, which seemed to be McVay’s public indication even though he did not get into detail.
That was a big loss for the Rams, who, as safety John Johnson noted, missed Ramsey’s “raw energy” on a thickly humid day after a long flight. The secondary featured Troy Hill, Darious Williams and David Long, the latter of whom played his first significant minutes of the year.
Long gave up a really tough third-down touchdown to DeVante Parker in the first half, but it was hard to see how he could have done a ton to prevent it, considering the short-distance situation (3 yards) and the perfect throw and catch. The longest catch allowed by the Rams’ secondary went for 15 yards.
The Rams were also missing two of their featured safeties, rookies Terrell Burgess and Jordan Fuller. But even without the three key players, the Rams’ secondary stepped up.
For the second week in a row, a tough, physical hit by Taylor Rapp forced a turnover, and for the second week in a row, Hill was there to recover it.
“He was coming with some heat today,” Johnson said of Rapp’s play. “I’m proud of him, and I’m proud of the way the defense played as well.”
Special teams turns disastrous
The Rams’ special-teams unit was awful. Veteran kicker Kai Forbath, who replaced rookie Samuel Sloman this week, badly missed a 48-yard field goal attempt in the fourth quarter that would have brought the Rams within eight points.
They also gave up a punt return for a touchdown — and it does make me wonder, after seeing Burgess fly around and make stops on special teams before his injury last week, how much they miss him on that coverage unit.
Bottom of The Pile
Kupp finished with a whopping 21 targets, and caught 11 for 110 yards. His targets were a career high, with his previous high of 17 targets set last October against San Francisco. Kupp appeared to hurt his wrist on a tackle in the second half, but returned a few plays later.
It’s odd to say this about a McVay-coached team, but the defense is not the problem while the offense is seeming to regress. The defense had two takeaways while not allowing a single play of over 15 yards, and zero second-half points. Fourteen of the Dolphins’ 28 points came off a pick-six and a punt return; another seven came off a sack-fumble recovered by the Dolphins and downed at the 1-yard line, which McVay referred to as basically a defensive touchdown. In fact, the Dolphins’ offense didn’t top 100 yards until the fourth quarter, and scored its first 21 points off a total of 49 yards.
Tight end Gerald Everett had a crucial third-down drop on one of the few promising Rams drives late in the game. It set up the field goal that Forbath missed.
There was a pretty stunning graphic presented by the FOX broadcast team of the two sideline thermometers. The Dolphins’ shaded sideline appeared to be about 60 degrees cooler than the Rams’ sideline, which was exposed to full sunlight until the fourth quarter. That reading is unlikely to be totally accurate — it was not 140 degrees on the Rams’ sideline — but it was notably hot and humid. Yet McVay said it wasn’t the heat that wore his players out. “We were drained because of the type of situations that we put ourselves in, as a result of our execution,” he said.
November 1, 2020 at 10:27 pm #123705znModeratorNFL Week 8 PFF ReFocused: Miami Dolphins 28, Los Angeles Rams 17
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2020-week-8-pff-refocused-miami-dolphins-28-los-angeles-rams-17
The Miami Dolphins scored in all three phases of the game to top the Los Angeles Rams, 28-17, and emerge from Week 8 a playoff-caliber team.
Jared Goff’s egregious performance overshadowed Tua Tagovailoa’s first NFL start. Goff committed four turnovers in the first half, and Dolphins head coach Brian Flores threw the kitchen sink at the Rams’ offense, outsmarting Sean McVay in their first meeting since the Super Bowl in 2018.
STORY OF THE GAME
On Tagovailoa’s first pass attempt, Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers clobbered the rookie for a strip-sack. Robert Woods scored immediately afterward on a 6-yard scamper, adding uncertainty to the decision to bench Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Goff dropped back to pass 24 times through the first two quarters despite the Rams’ offense totaling 103 rushing yards on 5.7 yards per carry. Nothing made sense, especially at halftime, with Miami leading 28-10 off 56 yards of total offense.
The Dolphins dominated while getting absolutely nothing from Tagovailoa, who finished 12-for-22 for 93 yards and one touchdown. The Miami offense looked equally as inept running the football and averaged under a yard per carry before contact.
Flores took a page from his mentor Bill Belichick’s playbook, dropping defensive linemen into coverage, mixing man and zone concepts and blitzing from the back seven to stymie Goff. He consistently put the ball in harm’s way, posting five turnover-worthy plays, two interceptions and two lost fumbles.
ROOKIE WATCH
Aside from Tagovailoa, tackle Robert Hunt and guard Solomon Kindley played every snap for the Dolphins’ offense. Defensive tackle Raekwon Davis continues to play a larger role every week, recording 50 snaps for the game.
Cam Akers and Van Jefferson combined for 34 snaps on the Rams’ offense. Jefferson caught both of his targets for 23 yards, and Akers touched the ball 10 times to chip in 54 yards.
November 1, 2020 at 10:43 pm #123706znModeratorGoff 2nd int. 4 DBs covering 4 receivers, everyone else blitzing. pic.twitter.com/MwzkUSROFg
— 𝕋𝕠𝕞 – 𝕃𝔸 ℝ𝕒𝕞𝕤 (@TL_LARams) November 1, 2020
November 1, 2020 at 10:47 pm #123707znModeratorThe play action rollout stuff wouldn’t have worked against this Dolphins D. Goff does a nice job getting this one off to Woods but it’s not sustainable inviting defenders into your QBs face every play. pic.twitter.com/THsaOTqF2b
— 𝕋𝕠𝕞 – 𝕃𝔸 ℝ𝕒𝕞𝕤 (@TL_LARams) November 1, 2020
November 1, 2020 at 10:57 pm #123708znModeratorLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
Maybe Rams should’ve seen this coming: The Dolphins pressured Jared Goff on 21 of his 63 drop backs (33%), tied for the highest percentage he’s faced in a game this season. The Dolphins entered Sunday pressuring quarterbacks on 36% of drop backs, 3rd-highest percentage in the NFL==
Rams QB Jared Goff loses grip early as four first-half turnovers lead to loss in Miami https://t.co/Nu4ShtJ9Db
— Gary Klein (@LATimesklein) November 2, 2020
November 2, 2020 at 3:18 pm #123746wvParticipantNovember 2, 2020 at 6:12 pm #123756znModeratorAnatomy of a Play: How the Dolphins beat Jared Goff with Cover-0 pressure
Doug Farrar
Coming into Sunday’s game against the Dolphins, per Sports Info Solutions, Rams quarterback Jared Goff had faced Cover-0 defenses — a high-blitz scheme with no deep safeties — on just three of his dropbacks. On those three dropbacks, Goff attempted two passes and completed one — to 49ers cornerback Jason Verrett in Week 6, on a red zone situation that obviously calls for no deep safety.
So, Cover-0 is not something Goff had seen a lot this season. But in 2019, he completed 7 of 16 passes for 71 yards, five touchdowns, and no interceptions against Cover-0. That said, Dolphins head coach Brian Flores and defensive coordinator Josh Boyer decided to throw more of it right at Goff, and it turned out beautifully — in the Dolphins’ 28-17 win, Goff completed just 35 of 61 passes for 355 yards, one touchdown in garbage time, two back-breaking interceptions, and two lost fumbles — one of which was returned for a touchdown. In the first half, when Miami brought most of its pressure, Goff completed 15 of 32 passes for 136 yards, no touchdowns, both of those picks, and a passer rating of 32.8.
As edge-rusher Emmanuel Ogbah, who caused the fumble that led to linebacker Andrew Van Ginkel’s 78-yard return, said, “The key to this game was attack Jared Goff.”
After the game, Rams head coach Sean McVay talked about how difficult it was to handle what the Dolphins were bringing — the pressures that forced McVay out of his preferred empty formations in certain instances, and took Goff out of his ability to cut the field in half with boot-action.
“They were bringing zero pressures,” McVay said. “We had some answer. We didn’t execute them, and ultimately, the answers were not good enough on my part. That falls on me… we were not in alignment, and the communication wasn’t on par with what the expectations were with how we execute those plays…. those situations never allowed us to get into rhythm.”
The first interception came out of zero pressure — Miami brought an extra pressure look, and then dropped defensive tackle Christian Wilkins into coverage. Goff didn’t pick that up on a quick pass attempt to Cooper Kupp, and Wilkins had his first career pick.
It wasn’t just the zero blitzes that took Goff out of his game — Flores and Boyer showed him all kinds of blitzes with all kinds of coverages behind — but as McVay said, it was the zero blitzes, and the ability to combine pressure with the illusion of pressure, that made the difference in this game.
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