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May 24, 2017 at 10:06 am #69233
znModeratormax wrote:
Couple things I heard from Schefter and Joe Curley
From Schefter:
He said he spoke with many teams before and after the draft. Many teams wanted Kupp and were upset that they missed out on him. He also said several teams were going to take Everett right after the Rams took him, he was going in the 2nd round.From Curley:
He said watching OTA’s that a “person who I value their opinion” (not sure if it was a coach, scout, or what) said under his breath at the practice, “Cooper Kupp may be the best WR on the Rams right now.”May 24, 2017 at 10:07 am #69234
znModeratorRams QB Jared Goff, WR Robert Woods went to work early
Alden Gonzalez
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Moments after the ink dried on his five-year, $34 million contract in early March, Angeleno and new Los Angeles Rams receiver Robert Woods stated his desire to immediately begin to work with his new quarterback, Jared Goff.
Woods wasn’t kidding.
The two basically began working together the very first week after Woods signed, coming together at high schools and colleges near the Rams’ facility until the start of the offseason program on April 10 in order to, as Woods said, “get our timing down early.” Woods, speaking from the start of the Rams’ organized team activities on Monday, is already seeing that timing come together.
“The biggest thing is what we were talking in meetings, we’re coming out here and we’re seeing it happen on the field,” Woods said. “We’re seeing how the defense plays, and the big thing is coming out here and executing what we’re talking about.”
Woods and Goff are in line to spend at least the next four years together. And because Woods is a precise route runner who figures to factor heavily into the intermediate passing game, he is perhaps the best bet to lead the 2017 Rams in catches.
Woods was never really that guy with the Bills. His best season, in 2014, included 65 catches for 699 yards and five touchdowns. During his four years in Buffalo, the former USC star played with five different starting quarterbacks, never really able to build a true rapport with a specific passer. With Goff, 22, Woods sees someone with “work ethic, arm and accuracy. You see him coming out here always working, always first to answer the question in the meeting rooms. He listens when we’re out here, communicates.”
Goff said Woods has been “more than I could have really expected.”
“You can tell how much it means to him and how bad he wants it,” Goff added. “He’s just a competitor. He’s smart, he’s fast, he’s strong, and he competes every day. He wants to be the best he can be every day, and you can tell.”
May 24, 2017 at 10:09 am #69235
znModeratorRobert Woods without Watkins
Woods played 13 games in 2016 and had decently modest numbers: 51 receptions on 76 targets (67.1%, which is good) and a YPR of 8.07.
A couple of things held him back some. First Buffalo was 32nd in pass attempts. 2nd Woods was always behind Watkins, who was their built-in primary target.
How did Woods play without Watkins?
Watkins was out for games 3-9. (Their bye week was week 10.) Woods played games 1-13.
In the 6 games with Watkins playing, Woods averaged 3.8 targets per game. In the games without Watkins, Woods averaged 8 targets per game. with Watkins playing too, Woods averaged 25 yards a game. Without Watkins, he averaged 66 yards a game.
So that’s something anyway.
May 24, 2017 at 10:28 am #69237
znModeratorReport: Rams will feature TEs in passing game
NFL Network’s Steve Wyche reports the Rams plan to run a “tight-end-centric passing game.”
It is not a surprising report considering Washington targeted a tight end on 26 percent (seventh-highest) of their attempts last season under Rams coach Sean McVay. Along with last year’s fourth-rounder Tyler Higbee, second-round pick Gerald Everett gives the Rams two potentially dynamic weapons at tight end. Without much talent at receiver, it makes sense for the Rams to feature them if they are ready to step uphttp://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/358158/report-rams-will-feature-tes-in-passing-game
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PFF: MCVAY PLANS TO USE TE MORE HEAVILY WITH RAMS
The new Rams head coach used his tight ends heavily with Washington, and reportedly will bring that plan with him to Los Angeles.
MICHAEL MANNING
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-mcvay-plans-to-use-te-more-heavily-with-rams/
The Los Angeles Rams have looked further and further away from the tight end position in the passing game over the past three years, but NFL Network’s Steve Wyche reports new head coach Sean McVay plans to bring his tight end-friendly game plan to the team.
The Redskins threw to the TE over 130 times every year that McVay was the OC (2014-2016). The Rams have yet to reach that number since the PFF era began in 2006 but did come close with 129 targets in 2014.
Washington TE Jordan Reed has averaged the second-highest percentage among tight ends when lined up in the slot (23.7) in the league over the past three seasons, behind only Tennessee’s Delanie Walker.
The Rams second-round pick, Gerald Everett out of South Alabama, was ranked fourth in slot receptions (29) and ranked third in slot yards (418) out of 48 tight ends in the draft class.
Starting Rams’ TE last season Lance Kendricks had the lowest yards per route run from the slot in the NFL with 0.71 out of 32 tight ends.
May 24, 2017 at 10:59 am #69239
znModeratorWoods, Goff Establishing Chemistry
By Myles Simmons
When Robert Woods was introduced to local media back in March, he made a point of saying he wanted to get with quarterback Jared Goff and start working as soon as possible. There’s more to be done, but receiver and quarterback appear to be establishing a solid chemistry through the offseason program.
”He’s been great,” Goff said on Monday. “He’s been more than I could have really expected, honestly.”
“We’ve been working,” Woods said. “Pretty much that first week, we were throwing at Westlake High, a couple of the colleges around here. But just trying to get our timing down early so our first impression with [head coach Sean] McVay and [offensive coordinator] Matt LaFleur was a good one.”
That has been the case, with McVay praising the work ethic Woods has displayed on and off the field. But it’s Woods’ versatility that has highlighted his value to the club so far.
“He’s a guy that kind of plays a lot different spots for us, competes well in both the run and the pass — kind of what we had liked about him when we had seen him on tape in Buffalo and going back to even when he was a great player at USC,” McVay said. “He’s been really good so far, one of those guys that you enjoy coaching just because the way that he goes about his work every single day.”
“His work ethic — you can tell how much it means to him and how bad he wants it. He’s just a competitor,” Goff said.
After four seasons with the Bills compiling 203 receptions for 2,451 yards and 12 touchdowns, Woods said he feels he’s had a speedy transition to his new club. With a new coaching staff, he’s just like the rest of the Rams receiving corps in that it’s a new system for everyone.
“I mean, everybody’s getting used to the new offense, everybody’s installing the same thing, so it’s not like I’m far behind or anything,” Woods said. “But just coming out here and trying to get better on the field. We’re trying to build the offense as fast as we can. We have a lot of young weapons, young players, people who will contribute early.”
At age 22, Goff counts as one of those young players. And part of the benefit of Woods signing a five-year contract is that he and Goff have a chance to establish a long-term partnership.
That stands in contrast to what Woods has dealt with in the past, working with multiple quarterbacks in Buffalo.
“I’ve worked with a lot of different guys early on — E.J. Manuel, Tyrod [Taylor], those are the quarterbacks who were there most often, most consistently,” Woods said. “But now, working with Goff, a young quarterback, seeing him communicate in the meeting rooms…the biggest thing — we’re talking so much that we’re seeing it apply on the field.
“We’ve got years and years to come, years to work on it,” Woods added. “But just want to come out and start early — first year, no need to wait. Both early and young, no need to wait, just start now.”
So far, both Woods and Goff have been impressed with the other.
“He wants to be the best he can be every day and you can tell that,” Goff said. “It’s really exciting for me to have a guy like that — multiple guys like that, but him in particular.”
“Work ethic, arm, and accuracy,” Woods said, listing Goff’s standout traits. “You see him coming out here, always working, always first to answer the questions in the meeting rooms. Just coming out here when we work, he listens.”
As McVay often points out, clear and open communication is key. Woods pointed out one play that previously fell incomplete that the pair got right on Monday as an example of how they’re growing together.
“The same pass we completed today, we had the same look a few weeks ago. And this time, he threw it and it was a perfect pass,” Woods said, “He just puts the ball in perfect position for the receivers to make plays.”
May 24, 2017 at 7:25 pm #69260
znModeratorRICH HAMMOND [on Woods]
THOUSAND OAKS – A few things old, a few things new, nothing borrowed and a lot of blue. The Rams opened the final stage of their summer workouts Monday amid a bevy of changes.
For the first time, Coach Sean McVay was able to put the Rams’ veterans and rookies through a full-team, no-pads, no-tackling practice, the first of 10 such sessions the team will hold between now and mid-June. Not a lot can be be gleaned from the practices, but they’re important.
For instance, there’s no wasted time for quarterback Jared Goff, as he enters his second NFL season with a new coaching staff and some new targets at receiver and tight end.
Goff, on Monday at Cal Lutheran, threw passes to receiver Robert Woods, who signed with the Rams in March, and tight end Gerald Everett, the Rams’ second-round draft pick last month. Everett lined up with the Rams’ first-team offense for some drills Monday.
Most of the OTA drills are position-based, but there are 11-on-11 periods, chances for Goff to work with his new targets in non-pads, game-simulation situations.“We’re just trying to get the timing down,” Woods said. “We’re connecting. The biggest thing is, we’re talking in meetings and then we’re coming out on the field and executing what we’ve been talking about.”
Woods signed a five-year, $34 million contract with the Rams in March, after four seasons with the Buffalo Bills in which he never exceeded 699 yards or five touchdowns.
More will be asked of Woods now. He is expected to be a good-hands, every-down receiver and the team’s best run-blocker. Woods and Goff already have worked together during throwing sessions in Westlake Village, and Goff said he is impressed with his new teammate.
“He’s been great, more than I could’ve expected,” Goff said. “His work ethic, you can tell how much it means to him and how bad he wants it. H’es just a competitor. He’s smart. He’s fast, and he’s strong. He wants to be the best he can be every day, and you can tell that.”
May 25, 2017 at 5:31 am #69280
AgamemnonParticipantlink: http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2012/08/robert-woods-scouting-report.html
Robert Woods Scouting Report
Robert Woods 2013 NFL Draft
QB / RB / WR / TE / OT / OG / OC / DT / DE / OLB / ILB / CB / SAF
Prospect: Robert Woods, WR, USC
Height: 6’1″
Weight: 190
Grade: 7.6 (Grading Scale)Scouting Report:
Athleticism
+Above average speed. Runs in the 4.4s, but has been hampered by ankle injury. Shows the straight line speed to run by most CBs
+ All-State Track Star in HS – Ran a 21.01 200m and a 46.17 400m, both of which were top times in the state
+ Athletic frame with good muslce tone in the upper body
+ Possesses a 6’1″ frame with long arms and big hands, with very good leaping ability
+ Exhibits explosive burst off the line, can accelerate quickly reaching top speed after a couple strides
+ Is faster than quick, but displays good change of direction ability.
+ Often catches the ball going one way, but can stop change direction and get back up to speed quickly
+ Elusive in the open field, has had multiple touchdowns with 20+ YAC
+ Has a second gear, when it clicks in he separates easily and can run by “off” defenders and the deep safety
+ One of the best athletes in college football, will test well at the combine
– Woods weight has been reported anywhere from 185-190 pounds, he needs to add muscle and strength
– Not afraid to give out and take contact, leaves himself exposed to much and vulnerable to big hitHands/Catching
+ Has some of the best hands in America
+ Large soft hands, watches the ball in and does a good job at maintaining focus and adjusting to the ball
+ Makes the tough catches look easy, will go after every ball and put his body on the line
+ Catches the ball well in tight spaces, will go over the middle and lay out
+ Presents large catching target due to leaping ability and ability to go get it
+ Knows how to use his body to shield the defender from the ball
+ Will drift toward sideline to create separation on deep sideline/fade routes
– Has an occasional concentration drop, which he needs to clean up
– Sometimes he leaps or leaves his feet when it’s not necessary while the ball is being deliverRoute Running
+ Stong route runner, crisp clean breaks, explosive when running double moves
+ Doesn’t lose speed when coming in and out of breaks
+ Creates separation with long strides and sudden, quick breaks
+ Accelerates at the top of his routes and is fluid in change of direction
+ Well developed route tree, USC moves him all across the formation, including slot
+ Is lethel when running fade routes and red zone combinations
+ Does a good job of maintaining control and balance of his body and never looks out of control
+ Works back to the ball and keeps moving when the play breaks down
+ Is utilized in the short passing game a lot – quick passes, 3 step slants, bubble screens.\
+ Can make things happen after the catch
+ Possession type WR, but also has the ability to be a home run threat
+ When running vertical routes, Woods attacks the DB
+ Woods does a very good job of stemming his routes and getting position on the DB
+ Beats press coverage at the line with quickness and elusiveness
– Can and will struggle against stronger and more physical cornerbacks who can get their hands on him quickly
– He can clean up some of the unnessary shake and jukes while running routes and try to make each route look the sameIntelligence
+ Recognizes and understands different coverages
+ Finds soft spots in zone and works his way open
+ Has a great rapport with QB Matt Barkley, can adjust and break off a route based on coverages
+ Knows what the down and situation is and has shown good “in game” situational awarenessLeadership
+ Is an extreme competitor
+ Very tough on himself and thinks he should make each play
+ If he drops the ball or doesn’t make a play he can be seen yelling at himself
– Bitterly threw his USC coaching staff under the bus while declaring for draftBlocking
+ Shows a willingness to block, but lacks technique and form
– Needs to add some strength to his frameOverview:
Robert Woods is one of the best NFL prospects in college football. He is a well rounded and explosive wide receiving talent. On one play he could stretch the field over the top for a 60 yard touchdown. On the next play he can run a three yard slant over the middle and convert a first down. He is a player that has a polished route tree and understands how to get open. He is exciting with the ball in his hand and he can turn a five yard bubble screen into a 50 yard gain. Woods will leave it all out on the field, selling out his body to make a play. He excels in the red zone where he uses his close quarters explosiveness to get open. Woods will give the team everything he has and has high expectations for himself. He is the type of player who wants the ball in the biggest situations and knows how to make the big play.
Scouting Notesvs Notre Dame
He is able to get in and out of breaks so quickly, and always has a crispness to them. No rounding them off here. He has the ability to play every receiver spot on the field and USC uses him that way. Whether he lines up as the X, Y, slot, boundary, or field WR he produces.May 25, 2017 at 5:33 am #69282
AgamemnonParticipanthttps://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-robert-woods-and-jared-goff-working-overtime-at-otas/
Robert Woods and Jared Goff working overtime at OTAs
The duo has been spending time together watching film, and working on routes and timing.
Early reports out of organized team activities in Los Angeles are that QB Jared Goff and WR Robert Woods have been spending extra time working on routes, timing and film study.
Woods saw 23 of his 71 targets running hitch routes last season, where he caught 19 of them for an average of 12.3 yards per reception.
Woods had an average depth of 9.4 yards on his 23 targets running hitch routes.
Jared Goff had completion percentage of 68.9 on crossing routes with two touchdowns and four drops by his receivers, the most on any route. Woods fielded his second highest passer rating (112.5) when targeted on crossing routes.
May 25, 2017 at 9:10 am #69290
znModeratorWR Robert Woods began working with QB Jared Goff hours after deal
Alex Alarcon
link: http://www.ramsheadquarters.com/wr-robert-woods-began-working-qb-jared-goff-hours-deal/
It did not take long at all after the five-year, $34 million contract was signed in early March that new Los Angeles Rams receiver Robert Woods stated his desire to immediately begin to grow a connection with his new young quarterback, Jared Goff. Boy, he wasn’t kidding either as the two started to began working hours after the ink dried on the contract.
The two exchanged contact information and within hours started to plan the next weeks ahead of working together. Woods and Goff started to meet several teams together at high schools and colleges near the Rams’ Facility until the start of the offseason programs.
For Woods, he said “getting our timing down early. was necessary” Woods, speaking from the start of the Rams’ organized team activities on Monday, is already seeing that timing come together. “The biggest thing is what we were talking in meetings, we’re coming out here and we’re seeing it happen on the field,” Woods said. “We’re seeing how the defense plays, and the big thing is coming out here and executing what we’re talking about.”
Woods and Goff are in line to spend at least the next four years together. And because Woods is a precise route runner who figures to factor heavily into the intermediate passing game, he is perhaps the best bet to lead the 2017 Rams in catches.
Woods was never really that guy with the Bills. His best season, in 2014, included 65 catches for 699 yards and five touchdowns. During his four years in Buffalo, the former USC star played with five different starting quarterbacks, never really able to build a true rapport with a specific passer. With Goff, 22, Woods sees someone with “work ethic, arm and accuracy. You see him coming out here always working, always first to answer the question in the meeting rooms. He listens when we’re out here, communicates.”May 25, 2017 at 1:40 pm #69294
znModeratormax wrote:
Listened to DJ on move the sticks podcast. He said Goff and Kupp have the same agent and have been virtually living together. I forgot why he said Kupp knows the systems so well, but DJ said Kupp has corrected the coaches regarding the WR calls. The implication is that Kupp is already a coach on the field and that Goff can trust him to be in the right place consistently. DJ said that applies to Woods as well and the Rams have those 2 guys as dependable assets at WR.
Both DJ and Bucky Brooks said they expect a big step up for Goff this year.
May 25, 2017 at 1:47 pm #69295
AgamemnonParticipantMay 25, 2017 at 2:22 pm #69296
znModeratorBoth DJ and Bucky Brooks said they expect a big step up for Goff this year.
They discuss the Rams at 24:39
May 25, 2017 at 3:47 pm #69300
znModeratoralyoshamucci wrote:
[On Kupp.] The consensus for hope is not in his 40, but his 3 cone-agility number … which is an insane 6.54 … basically like Edelman/Welker … the suddenness to create space is what he should be using. 6.75 is fast … most of our WRs are around 7.0 … 6.54 means he turns on a dime and redirects at full speed.
as far as the tape, he convinced me at the Senior Bowl practices …
May 26, 2017 at 9:16 pm #69381
znModeratorRams QB Jared Goff and WR Robert Woods have been spending extra time together at OTAs.
Woods was above average on a number of routes in '16 pic.twitter.com/yH6j0gCu1b
— Pro Football Focus (@PFF) May 25, 2017
May 26, 2017 at 9:56 pm #69383
znModeratorRobert Woods is looking out for No. 1 receiver role
Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-robert-woods-20170526-story.html
In a recent ceremony at his old high school, legendary status was bestowed upon Robert Woods.
Gardena Serra made the new Rams receiver the first recipient of “Serra Legend” recognition. In honor of his performance on the field, and the character he displays on and off it, a patch bearing Woods’ name will adorn the jerseys of all future players who wear No. 2 for the Cavaliers.
The Rams were not in search of a legend this offseason when they wooed Woods home with a five-year, $34-million free-agent contract.
New coach Sean McVay wanted a dependable, sure-handed route runner, a respected veteran to set an example for younger players in the locker room.
Woods, however, insists he can be more.
After four NFL seasons mainly playing a secondary role for the Buffalo Bills, there is no doubt in Woods’ mind that he can be a primary receiver.
“I feel like I definitely am a No. 1,” he said in March after an introductory news conference.
Woods, 25, this week repeated his intent to earn that profile when the Rams began organized team activity workouts at Cal Lutheran.
“I always come in attacking the season trying to be the No. 1 receiver,” he said.
The 6-foot, 193-pound Woods must increase his production to achieve that status among fans and NFL observers.
After an All-American career at USC — where he established a school record with 252 receptions in three seasons — he has averaged nearly 51 catches per season since his selection in the second round of the 2013 draft.
Woods has not amassed more than 699 yards receiving in a season, has only three 100-yard receiving games and no multi-touchdown games.
But that was playing in mostly run-based offenses that featured quarterbacks Tyrod Taylor and E.J. Manuel, running back LeSean McCoy and receiver Sammy Watkins.
Last season, the Bills led the NFL in rushing but ranked 30th in passing, one spot ahead of the Rams.
Woods caught 51 passes for 613 yards and a touchdown.
Woods, though, points to a November game against the Seattle Seahawks. He was targeted 13 times and responded with 10 catches for 162 yards, both career bests.
The Rams apparently took notice.
With McVay intent on instilling a new culture, the Rams let 1,000-yard receiver Kenny Britt leave as a free agent. They also did not re-sign receiver Brian Quick.
The Rams pursued receiver Pierre Garcon, who produced under McVay with the Washington Redskins. But when the price got too steep, they turned their attention to Woods.
“A pro’s pro,” McVay said after the first OTA workout.
Woods did not spend much time celebrating his new contract. A few days after signing with the Rams, he began working out with quarterback Jared Goff at a high school near the Rams’ training facility in Thousand Oaks.
“Just trying to get our timing down early,” Woods said, “just so our first impression with McVay and [offensive coordinator] Matt LaFleur was a good one.”
A connection is clearly forming.
During a workout a few weeks ago, Woods said, he and Goff missed on a play when the defense presented a certain look. On Tuesday, the first day of OTA practice, they got the same look.
“And this time, he threw it and it was a perfect pass,” Woods said. “He just puts the ball in perfect position for the receivers to make plays.”
Goff said Woods has been “more than I could have really expected,” noting his competitiveness and adding, “It’s really exciting for me to have a guy like that, multiple guys like that, but him in particular.”
Woods is part of a receiving corps that includes veteran Tavon Austin, second-year pros such as Pharoh Cooper and Mike Thomas and rookies Cooper Kupp and Josh Reynolds, among others.
Austin, who signed a four-year, $42-million extension before last season, is not participating in OTA workouts while recovering from wrist surgery. But McVay has spoken of making him one of the centerpieces of the offense.
Woods, in the meantime, is making an impression.
Rams receivers coach Eric Yarber was on college staffs at Washington and Arizona State when he began tracking Woods at Serra.
“I remember when he was in the ninth grade,” Yarber said. “I had friends on that [Serra] staff that were like, ‘That’s the one you need to be recruiting. Keep an eye on him.’”
Woods has already made an impact on the Rams, Yarber said.
“He sets an example for the room of how to be a pro,” Yarber said. “When you watch him prepare, he’s taking diligent notes, he’s asking very intelligent questions. He just knows how to prepare.
“He values the process over the prize. That’s what the really good ones do.”
Kupp, a third-round pick from Eastern Washington, sees a mentor in Woods.
“I’m just trying to soak up as much as I can and ask as many questions as I can,” Kupp said. “He’s a valuable source of knowledge and information for me.”
The Rams will conduct seven more OTA workouts and then hold a mandatory minicamp before breaking in mid-June. They will return for training camp in late July.
Woods is looking forward to the season and becoming a key component in McVay’s offense.
Last season, with McVay calling plays for the Redskins, Garcon and receiver DeSean Jackson each had at least 100 targets and amassed more than 1,000 yards receiving.
“They find ways to get receivers the ball and become a No. 1,” Woods said at his introductory news conference, “Or two No. 1s.”
May 26, 2017 at 10:11 pm #69384
znModeratorThey will probably keep 6.
11 Austin, Tavon WR 5-8 179 27 5 West Virginia
10 Cooper, Pharoh WR 5-11 207 22 2 South Carolina
18 Kupp, Cooper WR 6-2 205 23 R Eastern Washington
15 Marquez, Bradley WR 5-10 205 24 3 Texas Tech
19 McRoberts, Paul WR 6-2 197 24 1 Southeast Missouri State
13 North, Marquez WR 6-3 230 22 1 Tennessee
83 Reynolds, Josh WR 6-3 192 22 R Texas A&M
12 Ryan, Shakeir WR 5-8 169 21 R Northwestern State
82 Shippen, Brandon WR 5-11 196 23 1 Temple
86 Spruce, Nelson WR 6-1 210 24 1 Colorado
88 Thomas, Mike WR 6-1 195 22 2 Southern Miss
17 Woods, Robert WR 6-0 193 25 5 Southern California4 for sure…3 cause this regime brought them in (plus they’re good). IMO the next 2 spots are really up in the air because Fassel could push for Marquez or Thomas, McRoberts and North got a little buzz last year, and Spruce and Cooper could come through. So that’s 2 more out of 6. I don’t think any one of those 6 is a lock…though, in the end, it could be a good squad overall.
May 26, 2017 at 10:22 pm #69385
AgamemnonParticipantMay 26, 2017 at 10:49 pm #69386
znModeratorThe rule of 14. You shall have 14 playmakers on your roster. Add you WRs, TEs, and RBs. They should equal 14.
It will be interesting to see what they do with the FB spot…does he subtract from the TEs? Or do they just have 3 RBs plus the FB and still 4 TEs?
May 26, 2017 at 11:42 pm #69387
AgamemnonParticipantThe rule of 14. You shall have 14 playmakers on your roster. Add you WRs, TEs, and RBs. They should equal 14.
It will be interesting to see what they do with the FB spot…does he subtract from the TEs? Or do they just have 3 RBs plus the FB and still 4 TEs?
I see his competition being Harkey. But maybe hey want 2 Harkey’s? I looked at Wash’s roster for last year. They carried 3 TEs. I would like to keep my 14 best playmakers. It is never going to be exact, injuries, etc. It might depend on who they think they can put on the Practice Squad. Fisher was good at manipulating the roster. Playmakers are always going to be in flex. imo I have quit worrying about exact numbers.
00 Kupp, Cooper 17/3a
00 Reynolds, Josh 4/a
17 Woods, Robert U/Buf
11 Austin, Tavon 13/1
10 Cooper, Pharoh 16/400 Gerald Everett 17/2
89 Higbee, Tyler 16/4
84 Hemingway, T. 16/630 Gurley, Todd 15/1
25 Dunbar, Lance CF12
00 Rogers, Sam 17/6bThese 11 are assured of making the team. Maybe. LOL
3 more players will make the magic 14. imoYou would guess that it would be one of each, 1 WR, 1TE, and 1RB.
Even if the number starts out higher or lower, it
will end up being 14. It is like a law of nature.May 27, 2017 at 9:37 am #69397
znModeratorWoods v. Seattle in a game where Watkins was out so Woods WAS the passing game.
In that game Woods had 13 targets, 10 catches, 162 yards
May 27, 2017 at 10:52 am #69401
znModeratorRobert Woods is looking out for No. 1 receiver role
Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-robert-woods-20170526-story.html
Look at what Woods says in that article (which is back up in this thread) –>.
Last season, with McVay calling plays for the Redskins, Garcon and receiver DeSean Jackson each had at least 100 targets and amassed more than 1,000 yards receiving.
“They find ways to get receivers the ball and become a No. 1,” Woods said at his introductory news conference, “Or two No. 1s.”
Woods wants to be a #1. What does that mean?
Well that’s an old issue of mine, of course. The way it goes is, there’s 2 definitions of a #1 receiver.
1.) it’s an elite talent defenses have to account for at the gameplan level and is the guy the defense must stop and yet challenges them anyway…this is the “a #1 is an elite WR” definition
2.) it’s an receiver of any type and talent level who reaches a certain standard in terms of catches and yards
I like the 2nd definition better. And Woods is saying here that McVay set up both Garcon and DJ to get a certain number of catches and yards. So to me, when he says he wants to a #1 receiver, Woods is stating that he believes he is capable of meeting the standard in terms of completions + yards. He’s using the 2nd definition.
Some don’t like that definition because they are stuck on the 1st definition. For example according to the 2nd definition a guy could become a #1 WR after not being one, AND the list of #1 WRs could change from year to year.
Exactly.
And IMO according to definition #2…which is the definition I prefer…yes Woods could become a #1 WR.
All you have to do to reach that standard is to be so good at the things you DO do and CAN do, that you reach the point where you are reliably consistent game in and game out and therefore get the numbers (for me that’s 70 catches AND 1000 yards). You don’t have to be a dominant elite WR who challenges defenses the way the elite WRs do. You just have to be consistently good at the collection of routes and plays you do excel at, to the point where you just keep producing to the level of the standard.
The way I see it, most elite WRs are #1 WRs, but not all #1 WRs are elite.
May 28, 2017 at 12:31 am #69416
znModeratorHacksaw_64 wrote:
I know Woods was a target for the Patriots in FA. Might be why the Rams moved so fast and came in with a lucrative offer.
He was on a lot of Pat fans off-season wish lists as well.
Those guys would know. He turned a lot of heads last year in what was a low scoring game 13-0 where he got 7 catches out of 10 targets (top targeted receiver) for 87 yards.
I’ll have to go review it when I get a chance.
May 28, 2017 at 12:33 am #69417
znModeratorSpruce ready to bounce back
http://www.simivalleyacorn.com/news/2017-05-26/Sports/Spruce_ready_to_bounce_back.html
Nelson Spruce had never suffered an injury playing football in high school or college.
That changed once he suited up for the Los Angeles Rams.
Spruce, an undrafted free agent wide receiver out of Westlake High, posted six receptions for 51 yards and one touchdown in a memorable preseason debut against the Dallas Cowboys last year. He got hurt during the game, however.
The setback came at an inopportune moment for Spruce, a rookie at the time.
“It was a big blow,” he said.
Preseason games provide the best opportunities for unproven players—especially undrafted free agents—to showcase their talents.
Despite the untimely injury, the Rams saw enough to keep the receiver on board. Spruce missed the remaining three preseason games last year, but he made the final 53-man roster.
The injury bug, however, reared its ugly head again. While recovering from a sprained knee, he suffered a calf injury. The Rams shut him down for the rest of the season, placing him on injured reserve in November.“It was tough, mentally, just staying into it,” Spruce said. “The other guys on IR, we formed a close group, and that helped us get through our different injuries.”
The 2016 season was not kind to Spruce, but last year is in the rearview mirror.
He feels better than ever.
“Everything feels fine. I feel 100 percent, no issues,” Spruce said. “I haven’t felt like that in a year almost.”
Spruce stood out on a field of professional athletes during Rams’ organized team activities on May 22 at Cal Lutheran.
He was flying all over the field, running crisp routes and snaring every spiral tossed in his direction.
Spruce is no stranger to having the ball nestled securely in his hands.
During his time at the University of Colorado Boulder, Spruce set a record for most career receptions in the Pac-12 Conference with 294 catches.
Cooper Kupp, a Rams’ rookie wide receiver out of Eastern Washington, spoke highly of Spruce.
“He’s a great guy, a great competitor,” Kupp said. “I’m really excited to be on the same team as him.”
Getting to practice is never an issue for Spruce.
“It’s almost surreal just because it feels like I’m back in high school again,” Spruce said. “I’m still living at my parents’ place. I’ll wake up and drive over here to the facilities. It’s kind of like a high school routine almost. It’s a unique experience.”
Spruce enjoys playing close to home, but he wants to earn the fans’ respect. After battling his way back from injuries, he’s motivated to play well in the fall.
“It’s been humbling for me,” Spruce said. “The past few years at high school or in Colorado, I’m used to coming off a big season production-wise and actually playing. This is the first season that I didn’t really touch the field because of an injury.
“At first it was tough, but it lit a fire in me a little bit.”
Spruce is hoping Rams’ quarterback Jared Goff can help keep the flame burning.
Goff, who played at California, met Spruce when both toiled in the Pac-12. They had a quality relationship before becoming teammates with the Rams.
“We are friends,” Spruce said. “Off the field we do a lot of stuff together.”
The Rams will hope the friendship off the field will translate into success on the field.
Goff, a second-year pro, is now the unquestioned starter.
The QB is constantly evaluating his game while trying to find ways to improve.
“I’m growing as a person, as a player and as a leader,” Goff said. “Everything is always evolving.”
For Spruce, the new season presents a new opportunity. He will have to prove himself all over again with a new coaching staff and greater expectations.
He’s not afraid of the challenge.May 28, 2017 at 11:32 pm #69437
znModeratorPFF: RAMS SECOND-YEAR RECEIVERS BATTLING FOR ROSTER SPOT
The Rams WR corps boast depth, but ultimately some will have to fight for a spot on the roster.
MIKE CAHILL
https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-rams-second-year-receivers-battling-for-roster-spot/
The Los Angeles Rams have spent two draft picks in each of the past two NFL drafts on wide receivers.
Of their draft picks and undrafted college free agents they have signed from the 2016 NFL draft class, in 2014, WR Pharoh Cooper finished second in the nation in catch rate on passes that traveled 20 or more yards past the line of scrimmage at 64.0 percent. He caught 16-of-17 catchable passes on 25 targets.
In 2015, WR Nelson Spruce had a drop rate of 4.3, which ranked 14th in the nation among 97 receivers.
In 2015, WR Mike Thomas had the fourth highest catch rate on 20 or more yard passes, by catching 14-of-16 catchable passes for a 46.7 percent rate.
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