Martz on Warner

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  • January 3, 2022 at 1:02 am #135175
    zn
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    January 3, 2022 at 8:23 am #135181
    wv
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    I’m guessing the more insightful players, could see thru
    what Martz was doing, which makes that whole tactic
    more problematic.

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    January 3, 2022 at 11:31 am #135184
    Hram
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    Agree, but you still have to display the maturity and grit to take it because the goal is that important.

    January 3, 2022 at 11:59 am #135186
    zn
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    wv wrote:

    I’m guessing the more insightful players, could see thru
    what Martz was doing, which makes that whole tactic
    more problematic.

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    v

    I don’t think he is completely honest there about what he was doing. Here’s the deeper story. Before camp, Martz wanted Justin to be the #2. Justin had worked with him before. Vermeil nixed that and said Warner was the #2. He didn’t ask Martz if Warner should be, he just said he is. DV said Justin could not even compete for the #2. Vermeil already knew who Warner was before 99–he had him there in 98. (Ironically, when Green went down, Justin signed as the #2).

    Martz is famously abusive. It even showed up in how he treated cohosts when he was part of broadcast teams. So I think that was part of it.

    I think Martz lit into Warner at least partly because he was pissed at being shot down over Justin. I bet he told himself that he was just putting pressure on him. And to an extent that’s probably true, because Trent Green told a story about how Warner asked him why Martz was so rough on him, and Green said he told Kurt ah he did that to me too in Washington.

    I may not remember the Green story right. I don’t remember if Green told that story or Warner told that story, where he asked Trent about Martyz.

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    January 3, 2022 at 2:47 pm #135194
    wv
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    zn wrote:

    I don’t think he is completely honest there about what he was doing. Here’s the deeper story. Before camp, Martz wanted Justin to be the #2. Justin had worked with him before. Vermeil nixed that and said Warner was the #2. He didn’t ask Martz if Warner should be, he just said he is. DV said Justin could not even compete for the #2. Vermeil already knew who Warner was before 99–he had him there in 98. (Ironically, when Green went down, Justin signed as the #2).

    Martz is famously abusive. It even showed up in how he treated cohosts when he was part of broadcast teams. So I think that was part of it.

    I think Martz lit into Warner at least partly because he was pissed at being shot down over Justin. I bet he told himself that he was just putting pressure on him. And to an extent that’s probably true, because Trent Green told a story about how Warner asked him why Martz was so rough on him, and Green said he told Kurt ah he did that to me too in Washington.

    I may not remember the Green story right. I don’t remember if Green told that story or Warner told that story, where he asked Trent about Martz.

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    Oh, I totally agree.

    I’m assuming there was an ugly scene in the new Kurt movie? Probly made
    Martz wanna ‘explain’ things.

    At this point, I imagine Martz actually believes what he’s saying
    in that vid, though. Humans. “the brain is a self-justifying organ”

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    January 3, 2022 at 10:53 pm #135203
    Herzog
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    Remember what Martz said about Mcvay….(and then unsaid). He doesn’t come off looking good these days.

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