Election Day(s)

wv wrote:

But just the fact progressives have to fight another decade to get something the rest of the world has had for ages, says a lot about the Corporotacracy.

Remember when we were on one of the first incarnations of this board and discussing Obama and Clinton and the dem. primaries? Back then discussing M4A (which wasn’t even called that then) was like having a conversation about Latvian medieval history. Very few people were in on that discussion. A lot of what we discussed was ground-breaking. And now? Biden has to openly declare he’s against it. So it’s on the menu. It may take 10 years but more than 10 years ago, it wasn’t even comprehensible discussion to a lot of people.

I highly recommend AOC’s interview with Jake Tapper of CNN. She acknowledges the fact that candidates for a House seat that supported Medicare for All won but she also recognizes the House lost power in the House to Republicans. At no time, whether you want to be cynical and call it “pragmatism” , or something worse, did she ever promote the notion that Biden is really a Republican. She acted like a smart adult and I felt profound respect for her. That is precisely how a progressive movement can have teeth and gather even more support that what they have now. She’s smart. She knows that the door is now open for a younger and more progressive movement to become much larger players in the democratic party-something that never would have happened had we seen another 4 years of Trump. I like her.

Democratic leaders play a ridiculous blame game with progressives

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/08/democratic-leaders-play-ridiculous-blame-game-with-progressives/?fbclid=IwAR0tYqxhRqHV01iXWd3Fk-1tLvSq2eeV-6Y5DdCxPmF1CgVITa6YRwhZJ60

If a football coach went into a game saying “we’ll rely on passing the ball,” executed that strategy, lost the game, then blamed the loss on running the ball, everyone would laugh at that coach. And yet that’s exactly the approach Democratic moderates are taking after Tuesday’s disappointing House and Senate results: Reject progressives’ suggestions, then blame those suggestions anyway for their failures.

Remember, from the Democratic primary onward, party leaders warned against running on Medicare-for-all, a Green New Deal and other progressive ideas. That approach, they said, would lead Democrats to lose states such as Florida. (About that…) Instead, Democrats went small, focusing on saving the Affordable Care Act and providing a check on President Trump.

But after the party lost House seats and failed to retake the Senate, the knives are out for the left anyway. On a House Democrats conference call on Thursday, party leaders and moderates blamed their failures on progressives. Majority Whip James E. Clyburn of South Carolina warned against running on defunding the police or socialized medicine. (Since 2007, Clyburn has collected more than $1.2 million from pharmaceutical PACs, among the most of anyone in Congress.) The attacks were best summed up by Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.): “We need to not ever use the word ‘socialist’ or ‘socialism’ ever again. … We lost good members because of that.”

Spanberger’s view was echoed by Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) on “Meet the Press”: “I don’t think the American people want to sign up for the Green New Deal. … I don’t think they’re interested in Medicare-for-all or higher taxes that would slow down the economy.” But this diagnosis is at odds with the numbers. A near-majority of voters in swing districts supported the Green New Deal. Fifty-three percent of Americans support Medicare-for-all (and 70 percent support a public option). In exit polls, 57 percent of voters expressed support for Black Lives Matter. In Florida, while moderate Democrats up and down the ticket fell flat, voters passed the $15 minimum wage that the left has been pushing for years. As Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) observed, every swing-district House Democrat who co-sponsored Medicare-for-all kept their seat.

Yet even if we assume that these polls and results are all misleading, as Ocasio-Cortez pointed out on CNN on Sunday, “not a single member of Congress that I’m aware of campaigned on socialism or defunding the police.” It’s understandable that congressional Democratic leaders want to blame something other than their own candidate recruitment process. But if a candidate didn’t run on defunding the police, yet still couldn’t avoid being tied to “defunding the police,” that’s the candidate’s fault. If a candidate ran on reaching across the aisle, yet got defined as a socialist, that’s the candidate’s fault. And if that candidate couldn’t manage to tie his or her Republican opponent to almost a quarter of a million covid-19 deaths in the United States, a tanked economy or a dozen other policy fiascos, at least one of which was probably directly relevant to the candidate’s district, that’s the candidate’s fault.

And it’s the fault of a party that is far behind the times when it comes to campaigning online. During the George W. Bush presidency, Democrats dominated the digital space: Forums and blogs (the so-called Net roots) gave the party an edge in both advertising and organizing. But in 2020, sites like Facebook and (especially) YouTube absorb Americans’ attention spans, regardless of affiliation. Yet Democrats are still playing catch-up from 2016 on the former and have barely begun to mobilize on the latter. Progressives such as Ocasio-Cortez have built their brands in this new online space with techniques the whole party could learn from. Yet leadership has all but ignored their successes.

Offline, things are little better. Black, brown and working-class voters delivered Joe Biden the presidency; the hard work of turning out those voters wasn’t done by the national party this year, but by grass-roots organizers over many years. Stacey Abrams, whose 2018 Georgia gubernatorial campaign cemented the organizational groundwork that turned the state purple this cycle, noted on CNN that “for minority communities, there has to be consistent engagement.” Running away from Black Lives Matter and real health-care reform is the opposite of that approach.

This is not to say there is a one-size-fits-all approach to contesting 100 Senate seats and 435 House seats. But it is simply false to claim that standing up proudly for policies such as Medicare-for-all and a Green New Deal hasn’t worked, when the truth is it hasn’t been tried. For decades, congressional Democrats have run every cycle with a moderate message engineered by moderate, high-priced consultants. When this plan succeeds, the party establishment trumpets their wisdom. Yet when it more frequently fails, the leadership and moderates blame the progressives they rejected the entire campaign. It’s a “heads we win, tails you lose” approach, and it’s a farce. Until congressional Democrats stop punching left and start fixing their mistakes, more disappointments are sure to follow.

Zooey,

Thanks for that. That was hysterical!

;>)

And she didn’t even get to the best part. It was located between a crematorium and a porn-store.

Trump’s next press conference will be in the parking lot of The Waldorf Astoria Tool and Dye Company.

They're not mad about 11 hour lines or 214 polling places closed or 53,000 put on pending registration list. They're mad the current GOP secretary of state didn't do enough to rig the election like Brian Kemp did in 2018 https://t.co/OYKyVYtUO4

— Ari Berman (@AriBerman) November 9, 2020

Biden did WORSE with Republicans than HRC did after 4 straight years of Lincoln project and Kasich outreach. https://t.co/GxeTAgXnHg

— Krystal Ball (@krystalball) November 9, 2020