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    Cool, we need new antibiotics. Antibiotic resistance is becoming a huge concern. There was a time that when someone had an infection caused by E. coli (probably the most common gram negative human pathogen) that they didn’t even bother to do sensitivity tests because they were sensitive to everything. Now we see more and more resistant strains all the time. We recently isolated a strain from a patient’s blood that was resistant to every antibiotic in our formulary with the exception of one.

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    http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/05/26/bradfords-acl-what-are-the-odds/

    To get a better understanding for the situation, we spoke with Dr. James L. Carey, Director of the Penn Center for Advanced Cartilage Repair and Assistant Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania. From Dr. Carey’s vantage point, does the fact that Bradford is coming off two ACL ruptures make it more likely that he will sustain a third?

    “No,” he replied. “In my opinion, I don’t think that he’s at an increased risk for a third injury any more so than his other knee or the knees of any other NFL quarterback.”

    The odds of re-injuring the same knee are relatively low. According to Carey, studies have shown that the probability of re-tearing a reconstructed ACL is about three to six percent. (Those studies were on the general population, not just football players. But they line up with other findings that suggest the chance of a recurrent injury to the same knee amongst NFL players within two years is about five to six percent.) Meanwhile, the probability of tearing the other knee — or the “native ACL” — is higher, around nine to 12 percent.

    “You would think the reconstructed ACL would be more at risk. And it’s really changed our behavior a lot in how we treat these athletes when they return to play,” said Carey. “For example, bracing used to be pretty common after ACL reconstruction. At this point, I guess the question is: which knee do you want to brace? The other knee is actually at a higher risk in general.”

    The reason for the lower odds? Part of it, Carey theorizes, is that the tissue used to reconstruct may be a little bit bigger than the native ACL. If the original ACL is seven millimeters, say, it might have been replaced with a nine millimeter graft, so there’s more give. Also, because of all of the attention that leg receives during rehab, it’s not uncommon for patients to feel that the reconstructed side is the stronger of the two.

    Bradford turned out to be part of that three-to-six percent group that ruptured the same ACL twice. What to make of it? Carey likened an ACL tear to pulling out a kitchen drawer just hard enough that it jumps off the rails and hits the ground. Oftentimes, you fix the stop, put the drawer back in its grooves and the issue never comes up again. But in some cases, the same elements come together and the drawer pops back out.

    “I think it’s just kind of one of those freak deals,” said Bradford at his introductory press conference. “From everyone I’ve talked to – our team doctors in St. Louis, Dr. [James] Andrews, they just thought that it was one of those things where they felt like I got hit a certain way two times and regardless of whether my ACL was an original, a repair, it was going to tear. So I think it just happened.”

    “We’ve done our due diligence in terms of talking to Dr. Andrews in terms of what we are getting,” said Chip Kelly. “So we feel very confident in where Sam is.”

    While the chances of a re-tear are pretty low, Carey said that athletes that have had multiple ACL ruptures in the same knee are at greater risk for cartilage damage and arthritis. So there could be some long-term effects down the road.

    Bradford’s injury history goes beyond ACLs, of course. He missed a chunk of games in 2011 with a high ankle sprain. Was sidelined most of his junior season at Oklahoma with an injury to his throwing shoulder that eventually required surgery.

    At some point, don’t you have to say that a player is injury-prone?

    “I think it’s mostly the environment that the athletes are in,” Carey opined. “In football, there are a lot of ankle sprains and ACL ruptures. It’s part of the nature of the game. I think all of the athletes are vulnerable to these injuries — it’s part of the game — but I don’t think that any one athlete is systematically more prone to these injuries than any other athlete, really.”

    Though there can be contributing factors, from style of play to training. Kelly puts a big focus on the latter, as we know, utilizing sports science and personalized regimens to try and maximize output and reduce the chance of injury.

    To that end, Carey cited the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons’ findings that “neuromuscular training programs could reduce ACL injuries.”

    “Basically for every 109 patients that they treated, they prevented one ACL,” said Carey, who added that such programs have the best chance of preventing non-contact injuries. “So I think there is a benefit. Between the preseason and training camp, the Eagles probably touch about 109 players, and they can save an ACL. And in a game like the NFL, which is a game of inches and seconds, boy, one player can be a huge thing.”

    Especially if that player turns out to be your starting quarterback.

    #27588

    In reply to: Book Corner

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    It was set in Hawaii and involved Giant talking pigs,
    and a half-shark-half-man demigod, and a Volcano goddess, and
    some Japanese billionaires who wanted to buy a resort and turn
    it into a golf-utopia. Oh, and a ghost-hunting, naked, Mark Twain is one of the
    main characters. Yes.

    That sounds awful.

    I may try ” The Abominable” at some point but I need a break from him right now.

    I’m still reading “Divide” by Matt Taibbi, “Flashpoints” by George Friedman, “The Emperor of all Maladies” by Siddhartha Mukherjee(I’ve been working through that well over a year and I’m about halfway through it) and a paperback novel called “Influx” by Danial Suarez(labeled the Crichton of his time according to the book blurb). Hopefully I won’t start anything new until I finish these. I should set my limit at five at a time–period. I always have a hard time quitting a book when I should. I just keep going most of the time. So they can add up when I get bored.

    Not that all of these are boring. “Divide” is fantastic, actually.

    Well yeah doesnt surprise me that Taibbi’s book is great.

    The best book I’ve read this year (and I’m still reading it) is “Democracy’s Prisoner”.
    Its a biography of Eugene V Debbs. Debbs was a tall, charismatic Socialist back in the World War I era.
    He ran for President from a Jail cell in Moundsville WV. President Woodrow Wilson tossed him in prison,
    for speaking out against Wilson’s War. Back then numerous Socialists were jailed for being anti-war. Some were lynched. Many were beaten in police-riots and riots lead by the American Legion and American soldiers and rightwing vigilantes.

    Helen Keller was a socialist and was one of his biggest supporters, along with Upton Sinclair, btw.

    The book is well-written. Its not a leftist screed by any means. Just lays out the facts, nicely.

    Definitely my favorite book of the last few years.

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    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Dissent/Democracy%27sPrisoner_Debs.html

    a book review
    Democracy’s Prisoner
    Eugene V. Debs, the Great War, and the Right to Dissent
    by Ernest Freeberg
    a book review by Peter Richardson
    http://www.latimes.com/fe, June 15, 2008

    It all sounds so familiar: a foreign war, an unpopular president, high-minded vows to spread democracy abroad and a dubious law to restrict liberties at home. Add to that scenario vast inequalities in wealth, high immigration rates, scant regard for working families and festering resentment about the ravages of global capital. The conclusion seems inescapable: the first decades of the 20th century sound weirdly like the present.

    But the differences are also notable. Before World War I, a radical journal could reach 700,000 American households, and socialism was what William James might call “a live hypothesis.” The impassioned speeches of labor organizer, Socialist leader and five-time presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs were nothing short of evangelical in tone and effect. (He once called socialism “merely Christianity in action.”) Debs inspired groups large and small, and his remarkable charisma is what most concerned the powers that were. For the historical parallel to hold, we must imagine a third-party presidential candidate today who could receive 1 million votes without leaving his prison cell — and a roaring ovation from his fellow inmates when he finally did.

    According to historian Ernest Freeberg, it was precisely Debs’ virtuosity that forced America to grapple with the limits of dissent. In 1918, Debs was convicted under the recently minted Espionage Act for questioning America’s entry into World War I; before that, free speech protections were more a matter of custom, easily dispensed with during wartime, than of high legal principle. But his 10-year sentence raised 1st Amendment issues with unprecedented force. Sixty-three years old and in poor health, Debs faced the prospect of dying in prison. His drama played out against a backdrop of revolutionary violence both here and abroad: While he was serving his sentence, a bomb planted by anarchists ripped through a busy Wall Street intersection, killing more than 30 people and injuring 200.

    Freeberg shows that in the end it was Debs’ popularity, not a knockdown legal argument, that compelled politicians, the mainstream media and eventually federal judges to reconsider the government’s power to jail dissidents. The legal justifications came later, after Debs walked out of an Atlanta prison and caught a train to meet his unlikely Republican pardoner, President Warren G. Harding. Ailing, distracted by foreign affairs and stung by criticism from progressives and conservatives alike for his policy failures, Democrat Woodrow Wilson had refused to pardon Debs despite rising public pressure to do so after the war. When it seemed safe, his successor made the call, shrewdly connecting it to his pledge to return the nation to normalcy.

    Throughout this time, many civic groups and public officials defended the Espionage Act. One leader of the American Defense Society declared, “Those who are not for us, must be against us.” A congressman advised: “People should go ahead and obey the law, keep their mouths shut, and let the government run the war.” Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. dismissed criticism of the court’s unanimous rulingagainst Debs as “a lot of jaw about free speech.” But Holmes reconsidered his position and later offered his “clear and present danger” test to adjudicate such cases. By that standard, Debs never would have been convicted.

    Freeberg’s narrative unfolds at a stately pace. He patiently introduces the main characters and many minor ones. Debs’ main advocate, Lucy Robins, leaves her vegetarian restaurant in San Francisco to take up the fight. She receives strong backstage support from Debs’ labor rival, the AFL’s Samuel Gompers, and equally strong resistance from her more radical husband. Upton Sinclair weighs in, overconfident in his ability to reason with Wilson. We also hear from John Reed, Helen Keller, Clarence Darrow and U.S. Postmaster General Will Hays, who would later lay down the law for the Hollywood studios. (His nemesis, Mae West, appears briefly to lobby Harding for Debs’ release.) Wilson’s attorney general, A. Mitchell Palmer, launches raids on radical groups and thereby scotches his political future. But Palmer’s loss is J. Edgar Hoover’s gain; the young bureaucrat fills his files with the names of subversives — and eventually carries the imprint of those years into the Nixon era.

    The middle section of the book, which describes the various pressures and counter-pressures brought to bear on the amnesty question, slows to a crawl. Debs moves through two prisons and three wardens, whom he invariably impresses with his integrity and affability. His freedom looms on the horizon like a mirage as two administrations ponder the politics of his release. One delegation after another makes its pitch in Washington, and the decision-makers dispense blandishments until the battle for popular opinion is all but settled. Freeberg’s reader languishes along with Debs, waiting for some definitive outcome.
    When it finally arrives, the relief is palpable. Some readers may be moved, as I was, by the photograph of a black-suited Debs standing on the road outside the penitentiary. With his back to the camera and black hat raised high in his right hand, Debs acknowledges the ovation of his fellow inmates. For American radical history, this is Lou Gehrig’s farewell at Yankee Stadium. Debs wasn’t the victim of a bad break; he was the luckiest man on the face of the Earth.
    Debs served less than three years, but he returned to a different world. He had always mediated the tension between his party’s two major factions, the democratic Socialists and the communists, but the party splintered while he was serving his sentence. After his release in 1921, he sided with the democrats, whose numbers were dwindling, partly because many of the party’s causes — including women’s suffrage, food and drug laws, a minimum wage and a ban on child labor — had become mainstream issues.

    Moreover, Wilson’s war had squandered much of the nation’s idealism. As Freeberg notes, “The administration had lied about the causes and likely consequences of the war, big business had fattened itself while families sacrificed, and much of the patriotic fervor that gripped the country in the war years had only been froth churned by the government’s propaganda machine.” Fortunately, this would never happen again.

    Soon after his release, Debs had seen enough of Lenin’s methods to deplore them. When he shared his concern with radical journalist Lincoln Steffens, he received a Rumsfeld-esque reply that “some things happen that we don’t expect.” Debs broke with the Bolsheviks, but despite strenuous efforts by Lucy Robins, he never healed the breach with Gompers before dying in 1926. Many of Debs’ comrades drifted off into other pursuits, including mainstream journalism, real estate sales and the development of solar greenhouses in Vermont. Ironically, Clyde Miller, an Ohio journalist and the man most responsible for Debs’ conviction, lobbied Harding to pardon him, helped found an institute for propaganda analysis and was later grilled by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    If history is what the present wants to know about the past, “Democracy’s Prisoner” is teeming with lessons. But above all, it’s the story of one extraordinary man’s showdown with the establishment — and how that confrontation turned into a complex political struggle whose outcome was up for grabs. Carefully researched and expertly told, Debs’ story also brings a fascinating era into sharp, vivid focus.

    Peter Richardson is the author of “American Prophet: The Life and Work of Carey McWilliams.” His book on the history and influence of Ramparts magazine will be published next year.

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    Chip Kelly, football’s most intriguing figure, is also its most unknown

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/footballs-most-intriguing-figure-chip-kelly-is-also-its-most-unknown/2015/07/24/e65e4b72-3086-11e5-8353-1215475949f4_story.html

    On a Monday afternoon nearly two years ago, a woman in her mid-forties settled into a long Metro ride, Dupont Circle to Landover, bound eventually for FedEx Field.

    Jennifer Jenkins hadn’t been to an NFL game since she was a little girl, football making so much noise during one part of her life that for a long time she tuned it out. But this day in September 2013 was different: Chip Kelly was coaching his first NFL game, his Philadelphia Eagles playing the Washington Redskins.

    Kelly, 51, coaches football in a way that calls attention to himself, but he keeps much of his life off limits. Even the profiles that have been written give little sense of him away from the field, apart from the occasional mention of how he is a lifelong bachelor, seemingly married to the game.

    Wearing neither team’s colors, Jenkins reached the stadium that afternoon and an old friend from her native New Hampshire pushed a ticket into her hand. She found her seat near the 50-yard line, behind the Philadelphia bench, surrounded by the hopeful, the jeering and the curious.

    A while before the game, she pulled out her cellphone and sent a text message to the Eagles’ rookie head coach, the man who had been her husband for seven years.

    ‘A different kind of weirdo’

    The most interesting man in football walks through the doors at Eagles headquarters, toward an outdoor lectern. It is late May, and more than 100 reporters have gathered under a tent.

    During the next 13 or so minutes, Kelly will be asked about the action-packed way he spent his offseason: engaging (and prevailing over) former general manager Howie Roseman in a front-office power struggle, trading away quarterback Nick Foles (who passed for 40 touchdowns the past two seasons) and acquiring Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow (who appeared in a total of seven games the past two years), and dealing with former Eagles running back LeSean McCoy’s suggestion that Kelly has spent the past two years pruning “all the good black players” from Philadelphia’s roster.

    “I’m not governed by the fear of what other people say,” Kelly says, and his first 30 months as an NFL coach have shown even more proof of that. Since that debut game at FedEx Field in 2013, the Eagles have parted ways with more than half of the players who suited up — including McCoy, wide receiver DeSean Jackson and guard Evan Mathis, with their combined eight Pro Bowls.

    Kelly is sarcastic and dismissive of reporters; he declines most every interview request, including one for this story, and refuses in any forum to answer questions about his personal life. His family has been ordered to keep quiet in public about Kelly, and Mike Zamarchi, the coach’s longtime buddy, says Kelly’s friends are “sworn to silence.” Players, too, are kept at a distance, and so are fellow coaches: Mike Bellotti, the former Oregon coach and athletic director who was Kelly’s boss for three years, knows little more about Kelly than that he hates green vegetables and loves beer. “I’m not sure I would consider that I know Chip,” Bellotti says.

    There are holes in the Kelly story, unanswered questions and mystery that have grown his legend as much as anything. His middle name is absent from many public records, and even Mark Saltveit, who has written two biographies of Kelly, has had trouble accounting for a six-year period of Kelly’s life, between his final game as a college player at New Hampshire and his graduation from the school.

    After one of his four seasons as Oregon’s head coach, Kelly spent part of one summer by running with the bulls in Pamplona, Spain; later a story circulated that his 6,300-square-foot house in Eugene contained little more than a couch and a television. It was bizarre, but because it was Kelly, it was also believable.

    When he took over the Eagles, players saw his quirks and emphases up close. Kelly asked them to supply daily urine samples, to document their sleep and heart rates, to practice while a network of speakers blared drill cadences and favorites from Ricky Martin or “The Lion King.” “There’s plenty of weirdos in the NFL,” one of Kelly’s former players says. “He’s just a different kind of weirdo.”

    Who, it should be pointed out, led Philadelphia to the NFC East title that first year. In the time since, Kelly has been called a genius and an innovator, a narcissist and a cowboy, a revolutionary and a racist. It’s possible his act will get him fired, but because it’s Kelly, it’s just as believable he’ll win multiple championships. “Every time I’m talking to him,” the former player says, “I’m standing there wondering what the hell he’s thinking.”

    ‘He likes to ask why’

    Jenkins was a senior at New Hampshire when a friend introduced her to Kelly on Thanksgiving day in 1989. The Manchester city football championship was that day, a reason to celebrate no matter the winner, and so she and Kelly, four years older than Jenkins, talked for a long time.

    He was 25 and shy, but when he spoke his words were thoughtful and energetic; football was more than a passion — even then, as Jenkins put it in a recent telephone conversation, the game was a “way of life” for Kelly. He was ambitious and bright, the son of a trial lawyer who believed in challenging the establishment, one of four brothers, a young man determined to leave his mark on the world.

    “I don’t know when he became inquisitive, but I know he likes to ask why, and I know he likes to understand why things are happening,” says Bob Leonard, who coached Kelly as a high school player. “Even as a kid he was like that.”

    Jenkins and Kelly kept seeing each other, she learning that he was a reader but had no patience for fiction; he read self-improvement books before it was trendy, and his impatient intellect led some people to mistake him for aloof. Jenkins stayed in New Hampshire when Kelly took his first college coaching job in 1990, working with the defense and special teams at Columbia University, but after two seasons he was back home.

    A few weeks before Kelly’s first game as New Hampshire’s running backs coach, his name spelled “Chip Kelley” in the school’s 1992 media guide, he and Jenkins stood in front of about 250 guests and married. “A great party,” Jenkins says now, and it is around this time that she wonders if she should continue. She figures Kelly wouldn’t like her sharing all this.

    Difficult to define

    At Oregon the coaches learned that a good way to kill a conversation with Chip Kelly — in the football offices, on the golf course, over burgers and beers — was to expand the discussion.

    “In terms of football, he’s awesome; he’s willing to talk about anything,” Bellotti says. “But beyond that, he does play things very close to the vest.”

    Nick Aliotti, who spent six years alongside and under Kelly as the Ducks’ defensive coordinator, can’t remember one conversation in which the men talked about family. When Bellotti elevated Kelly from offensive coordinator to head coach in 2009, Kelly asked Bellotti, who became Oregon’s AD, to continue making public appearances and meeting with boosters because Kelly didn’t like making small talk. Bellotti, who has spent all his life on the West Coast, figured that’s just how people from the Northeast must be; Aliotti assumed the disconnect was because he’s nine years older than Kelly — and that Kelly is acerbic and unyielding. “I like the guy a lot,” Aliotti says, “but he can piss you off.”

    There was no doubt, though, that the man knew how to coach, keeping players motivated and challenged. At New Hampshire, he might run the single-wing offense one game and the spread the next; to mix it up, one week the Wildcats attempted six passes, former New Hampshire quarterback Ryan Day says, and the next they threw it 65 times.

    Kelly relied on efficiency — more offensive plays means more potential for points — and thought about ways to simplify a complex game. One way was abandoning long and nonsensical play calls; one season at New Hampshire, he nicknamed deep routes after long-distance phone companies: “AT&T” meant the pass was going to the A receiver, “Nextel” bound for the X.

    He experimented with concepts and plays, took an interest in sports science, and refused to change. Aliotti once confronted Kelly about running practices too fast; the Ducks’ defensive staff had little opportunity to coach players and make adjustments. Kelly didn’t care. Now Aliotti admits Kelly’s attitude and increased tempo forced the defense to adjust, helping shape Oregon into one of the nation’s most feared all-around programs.

    “He was never afraid of what people thought or afraid to fail,” says Day, who’s now the Eagles’s quarterbacks coach.

    Players on Kelly’s first Eagles team saw their new coach as a look into the NFL’s future — but also as something of a curiosity. He had seemingly come out of nowhere, having never been a head coach before 2009 and spending most of his career in the relative anonymity of the Atlantic 10 Conference.

    Kelly’s first impressions showed a coach who spoke often about being quick and efficient, but also a man unafraid to spend hours cycling through PowerPoint slides about the effects of alcohol, marijuana, sleep and water on an NFL player’s body. It seemed Kelly valued each morning’s urine test — plastic specimen cups waiting in locker stalls, jersey numbers written in black ink — as much as how a player performed during practice or a game.

    “He wants guys who care about that stuff,” Eagles tight end Brent Celek said, “because that stuff does matter. A lot of the guys who are in our facility think the same way.”

    Kelly backed up his methods with science and commitment, but what some saw as a revolution, others saw as misguided. One NFL player compared Kelly with Elon Musk; another referred to the coach’s methods as “Orwellian.” Regardless, each day players were greeted at the team facility by screens revealing who had completed the morning routine — an iPad soreness and mood survey, the results of a heart-rate monitor, and of course the urine test — showing players’ head shots and a background that turned green when the daily assessment was completed.

    “Most people were very receptive to it, [but] some guys were like: ‘What are we doing; why are we doing this?’ ” a former Eagles player says, adding that as quickly as players learned how to cheat the hydration test, adding a splash of water from the urinal, Kelly ordered the system revamped to discourage diluters.

    Kelly was approachable and, many times, jovial. But like at Oregon, his emotions and background story were largely out of bounds. Players pondered Internet rumors about their coach and wondered aloud about his psychological chemistry. “I don’t know if he was always the underdog or something or if his parents were always hard on him,” the former player says. “But it’s always like he’s got a chip on his shoulder.”

    It had become common to wonder about the truths in Kelly’s life, and when he made those unavailable, the convenient response for anyone in his orbit was to accept legend as fact.

    Why such a secret?

    In 2011, Jenkins read an article in the New York Times that described bachelor coaches and how, even in the image-conscious and political world of college football, Kelly had never been married.

    “Why does everything say that you weren’t married?” Jenkins said a friend recently asked her. “I just roll my eyes.”

    It used to hurt, she says, as if seven years of her life had been washed away. But now she finds the humor in it. Jenkins’s former co-workers knew the real story, and a friend joked about calling a sports radio show to reveal that the friend had been in Kelly’s wedding party. After enough strangers told Jenkins they didn’t believe her, she began carrying a wedding photograph on her iPhone. “Nobody talks about it,” she said. “But everybody knows.”

    Why, Jenkins sometimes asked herself, was this considered a secret? It didn’t seem like one to her, and if it was, the artificial intrigue was either the most NFL thing ever or the most boring secret of all time. The truth was no more scandalous than Kelly’s middle name (Edward) or how he spent those six years between playing at New Hampshire and graduating (coaching junior varsity football, Jenkins said, and working as a gym teacher as he slowly completed his degree requirements).

    As for the marriage, the years had simply come and gone in New Hampshire, Kelly an assistant on his mentor Bill Bowes’s staff and Jenkins working at the university. They lived in Durham for a while, and then Kelly took a coaching job at Johns Hopkins, moving to Baltimore for one year while Jenkins remained in New Hampshire.

    Kelly rejoined Bowes’s staff yet again in 1994, and four years later he and Jenkins had begun to drift apart. They were no longer living together, and in 1999 they divorced.

    Football, as the most important thing in Kelly’s life, was a strain, Jenkins admits. But the game cannot be blamed for the demise of their marriage. Like many other things in Kelly’s seemingly complicated life, reality was simple: For a long time they were happy, and then after a while, they weren’t.

    “It wasn’t his fault because he was focused on football,” she said. “That’s just not the way we’ve ever — that’s not it. That’s not what happened.”

    She took a breath.

    “We were just young,” she said, preferring to keep the details to herself.

    Back into the breach

    A few days from now, a quiet patch of land near the corner of South Broad Street and Pattison Avenue will come to life. Ninety players will file into the Eagles’s training complex, equipment will be moved onto the practice fields, and the results of a dramatic offseason — led mostly by the actions of a private man and daring coach — will soon begin to reveal themselves.

    Will Foles and McCoy be remembered as foundation blocks or expendable pawns? Was it wise or foolish to cut ties with Mathis, the guard named to the last two Pro Bowls, and sign John Moffitt, who spent the past two years retired from the NFL and facing criminal charges? Has Kelly, who now possesses full control over Philadelphia’s football operation, taken on too much responsibility?

    “You start chasing perception,” Kelly said during that standing-room-only news conference in late May, “and you’ve got a long life ahead of you, son.”

    For a few weeks, Kelly disappeared into the silence, returning to New Hampshire and his summer home — a football man passing the days until it was time to return to work. One day in July, a text message popped into Kelly’s phone. Jenkins does this sometimes, a joke she thought Kelly might like or, because she’s superstitious, the same note of encouragement she sent the last time the Eagles won. Even at the end of their marriage, she said, they have remained friends.

    Jenkins is 47 now, living most of the year in Washington; she started a care package business called MommaLu Remedies, and like Kelly, she has never remarried. These last two years or so, Jenkins has, for one identifiable reason, found herself supporting the Eagles.

    “I want him to win. I want him to be successful,” she says. “It’s everything that he has worked for.”

    Sometimes Kelly texts back immediately; other times days or weeks come and go. Jenkins knows he’s a busy and complicated man, probably off somewhere trying to answer the most glaring question: Can he make the leap from football’s most interesting man to one of its most successful?

    Next Sunday, after seven months of intermittent noise, hopeful and curious players will push through the doors and flood the practice fields. Kelly will jog onto the turf behind them. Then the speakers will fire up, the football season beginning, music and instructions so loud nothing else can be heard.

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    Earl Thomas unsure he’ll be ready for Week One

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co…arl-thomas-unsure-hell-be-ready-for-week-one/

    After Seahawks safety Earl Thomas had surgery to repair a torn labrum in his shoulder in February, word was that there was “no doubt” he’d be ready to play when the Seahawks open the regular season.

    The lack of doubt was a bit surprising given the six-to-eight month timeline given for a full recovery from the surgery and it seems that the passage of time has allowed some doubt to creep into Thomas’s head. Thomas told Ed Werder of ESPN reports that while he is making steady progress in his rehab from the surgery, he’s not expecting to be cleared for the early portion of training camp and that he’s uncertain about his status for the season opener against the Rams in St. Louis.

    “I’m unsure about everything at this point,” Thomas said. “I will find out more when I get back to Seattle on [July] 30th when I take my physical.”

    That’s obviously not ideal for the Seahawks given Thomas’s importance to the team’s defense, but it would be far worse to rush in hopes of getting back for Week One if taking a more patient approach makes it likelier that Thomas will be 100 percent for a greater number of games.

    With almost two months to go before the Seahawks take the field for the first time in the 2015 season, there’s plenty of time for Thomas’s status to become more certain and it will surely be something they’re watching closely in Seattle.

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    Key Rams for 2015: Offensive tackle Greg Robinson

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/19610/key-rams-for-2015-offensive-tackle-greg-robinson

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Before the St. Louis Rams report for training camp next week, we’re taking a look at five players returning to the team who will need to provide more if the team is going to be a playoff contender in 2015.

    We continue with offensive tackle Greg Robinson.

    Why more is needed: It’s probably not fair to Robinson to expect him to become one of the primary bedrocks of the offensive line in just his second season, especially given how much of a learning curve he had when he entered the league. But he was the No. 2 overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft and many would argue that draft position alone should bring expectations for production right away. No matter where you come in on that discussion, though, there’s no doubt that the Rams need Robinson to take a big step forward this season. That’s because, despite starting just 12 NFL games, Robinson is the second-most experienced projected starter on the team’s offensive line going into the year. Adding more pressure to the job is the fact that Robinson plays the most important position on the line and will be responsible for new quarterback Nick Foles’ blind side. Robinson flashed potential as a rookie but was better at guard than he was at tackle after moving to the outside. There’s no denying the size and ability that Robinson has but the Rams simply don’t have the time to be patient with him. Robinson had offseason toe surgery but should be at full strength and ready to go when the season starts.

    What the Rams need from him: Left guard Rodger Saffold is the only starter on the line with more starting experience than Robinson but Robinson is already in a position where he needs to become a leader for a young line. Beyond that, the Rams need him to play and produce like a former No. 2 overall pick. For Robinson, that means showing rapid improvement, particularly as a pass blocker. Robinson had a tendency to get lost in pass protection, particularly when defensive lines ran stunts and games at him and was also occasionally over aggressive in the run game. The Rams need Robinson to handle talented pass-rushers without having to offer much help and be a hammer in the run game. If he can do that, it would allow rookies Jamon Brown (right guard) and Rob Havenstein (right tackle) and whoever starts at center a little more leeway to get help from tight ends and running backs in pass protection.

    Outlook: The good news is that none of the issues Robinson had as a rookie seemed to be physical and were correctable simply by gaining more experience and learning the nuances of the position. Robinson earned praise from the coaching staff during the offseason for his commitment to sharpening up that aspect of his game and Robinson said he and Saffold spent a lot of time together studying film and ironing out details. Likewise, Robinson can settle in at left tackle and devote himself to the position rather than bouncing between guard and tackle like he did as a rookie. It seems unlikely Robinson will make the leap to a Pro Bowl level or better but there are plenty of reasons to believe he’ll be markedly better in 2015.

    #27211
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    from off the net

    ==

    nflscouting aka Dave-Te Thomas

    While he is still working on recovering from knee surgery, Gurley is perhaps the best franchise back to come out of college the last few years. In my reports to NFL teams, this is what The NFL Draft Report analyzed when breaking down Gurley’s potential pro future;

    OVERVIEW

    When you are a 230-pound running back with the perfect blend of size, speed and production that Gurley has delivered, immediate comparisons to the likes of former Jacksonville standout, Fred Taylor, and Seattle Seahawks All-Pro, Marshawn Lynch, are inevitable.

    There is nothing flashy about Gurley’s game – he’s not going to be like a ballerina spinning away from defenders, but much more like Lynch, as he attacked the line of scrimmage and runs through rushing lanes with the same “Beast Mode” attitude. Despite a troubling 2014 season on-and-off the field that the Bulldogs hopes will not hinder his draft stock.

    Gurley started 27-of-30 games during his college career, ranking second on the school all-time record chart with 4,322 all-purpose yards and 3,285 yards on the ground. His average of 6.44 yards per rushing attempt established the Bulldogs’ record and his average gain of 109.5 rushing yards per game is second only to great Herschel Walker on Georgia’s career-record sheets.

    Gurley’s 36 touchdowns are tied for second in school annals, as his 44 total touchdowns tied Arkansas’ Darren McFadden (2005-07) for tenth in Southeastern Conference history. That total is also the most for any current player in the league. He’s proven to be quite efficient toting the pigskin, gaining at least 100 yards rushing in eighteen of his 27 career starts.

    Gurley attended Tarboro High School in North Carolina, where he not only starred as a tailback, but was also a dominating tackler as the team’s strong safety, helping lead his team to three consecutive Class 2A state championships. His breakout season came as a sophomore, as he collected 1,457 yards with 27 touchdowns on 148 chances in 2009, adding another score on a reception and two more touchdowns returning kickoffs.

    As a junior, Gurley rushed 139 times for 1,472 yards and 26 touchdowns. He also had 79 tackles, an interception, and a forced fumble, earning All-Area Offensive Player of the Year accolades. As a senior in 2011, he was named the North Carolina Associated Press Player of the Year after totaling 2,600 yards and 38 touchdowns rushing. He also received Rocky Mount Telegram All-Area Offensive Player of the Year, and NCPreps.com Class 2A Player of the Year accolades.

    Gurley helped his team win the Class 2A North Carolina state championship, rushing for 242 yards and four touchdowns in the championship contest vs. Lincolnton High School. In the semifinals, Lincolton had shut down the state’s leading rusher, Thomasville’s Shaquan Johnson, who entered the game with 3,083 yard rushing.

    Gurley was rated a four-star recruit by Rivals.com, as that recruiting service listed him as the fifth-best running back prospect in his class and third-best overall prospect in the state. Scout.com rated him the state’s fifth-best athlete and the country’s 13th-ranked running back. ESPN.com tabbed him the state’s tenth-best player and the 11th-best tail-back in the nation.
    The Super Prep All-Mid-Atlantic Team pick added All-State honors from the Associated Press and ESPN during his final football season. He also excelled in track, participating in the 100-meter hurdles at the 2011 World Youth Championships in Athletics in Lille Métropole, France for Team USA.

    Gurley finished 15th overall in the semifinals. He was timed at 10.7 seconds in the 100 meters in his senior year at the 2011 NCHSAA Class 2A State Track Meet, placing second. He also won the state title in the 200-meter hurdles and ran a 4.30 40-yard time. He also recorded personal bests of 14.13 in the 110-meter Hurdles, 22.85 in the 200-meter dash and 40.89 in the 300-meter hurdles.

    Gurley committed to the University of Georgia and saw action as a true freshman. Despite starting as a backup to Ken Malcome, he saw increased involvement after a strong start and helped the team to win the Southeastern Conference East title. Over the course of the year, he rushed for 1,385 yards and 17 touchdowns, including more than 1,000 rushing yards during the regular season.

    His touchdowns tied for third on the school season-record list while his rushing yardage ranks as sixth overall and second-best ever by a Bulldogs freshman. Gurley also showed off his other skills, as he pulled in sixteen passes for 117 yards and averaged 34.7 yards on seven kickoff returns, setting the school mark with a 100-yard runback for a touchdown vs. Buffalo in his collegiate debut.

    Ankle problems sidelined Gurley for three games (vs. Tennessee, Missouri and Vanderbilt) in 2013 and would limit him in two others, as he also dealt with hip issues. He still started all ten games he appeared in, as his 989 yards on the ground rank as the third-best season total by a Georgia sophomore. He carried 165 times for a 5.99-yard average with ten touch-downs, as he scored six more times and gained 441 yards with a career-high 37 catches.

    Gurley’s injury woes would continue during the 2014 season, but he also had a lot of off-field problems that would limit him to six appearances. He finished with 911 yards and nine touchdowns, averaging 7.41 yards on 123 carries. He gained 57 yards on twelve catches and returned another kickoff for a 100-yard touchdown (Clemson), averaging 44.8 yards via four runbacks.

    The month of October, 2014, is one that Gurley would just as soon forget. Off the field, he was falsely accused of assaulting a man in a downtown Athens bar. A 20-year-old Georgia student told police that Gurley had punched him after he took a “selfie” of himself with Gurley in the background, police told the Athens Banner-Herald. After police watched surveillance video, they determined the accuser was had been punched by a white male.

    Gurley, the Banner-Herald said, cooperated with police. He said he didn’t see the accuser get hit, but he did see some pushing and shoving. The tailback told police that the student had lost his hat and when he reached to pick it up for him, the student approached and used a racial slur. That’s the time someone punched the student, who was kicked out of the bar, police said.

    The investigating officer released the following statement: “In consideration of all the information, to include statements and video recordings from the incident location, Todd Gurley’s involvement in this report is unfounded. Based also on the information … I was able to see clearly that Todd Gurley had no involvement in this case other than trying to give an individual his hat back.”

    Gurley played in the team’s first five games, but on October 10th, head coach Mark Richt announced that his star player was indefinitely suspended while an investigation continued into a possible violation of NCAA rules. Multiple media outlets reported that Gurley allegedly received compensation for his autograph. According to Sports Illustrated, a person told Georgia’s compliance office that he had Gurley sign 80 items on campus last spring and he paid the running back $400.

    The person was said to have photos and video of Gurley signing, but no photos or video showed Gurley being paid. “I’m obviously very disappointed,” Richt said in a statement. “The important thing for our team is to turn all our attention toward preparation for Missouri.”

    The NCAA then suspended Gurley after their investigation found that he had taken $3,000 for autographed memorabilia and other items over two years. They enforced a four-game suspension, ending the school’s final hope of having its biggest star in uniform for the Missouri, Arkansas, Florida and Kentucky contests after the NCAA’s student-athlete reinstatement committee denied Georgia’s appeal of the suspension.

    Gurley, who already has been held out of two games, was eligible to return on November 15th vs. Auburn. Georgia officials said it was “very disappointed” its appeal for Gurley’s immediate reinstatement was denied. “We believe our case to the NCAA for Todd’s immediate reinstatement was strong and compelling,” Georgia said in a statement.

    “However, we now have exhausted all available options and look forward to Todd’s return to competition. The full attention of the Bulldog Nation now needs to be focused on our team.” When announcing the four-game suspension, the NCAA said it “strongly considered” a harsher punishment because Gurley was found to have taken cash from multiple individuals, even though the NCAA said he received “extensive rules education about the prohibition of receiving payment for autographs.”

    Gurley had a good news/very bad news return to the lineup. He energized the Bulldog crowd the first time he touched the ball, racing 105 yards on a kickoff return in the Auburn clash. The touchdown was called back on a holding penalty, but Gurley served notice that he was back and determined to make up for lost time. He came off the bench to gain 138 yards and a touchdown on 29 carries, but it would be the last time he would carry the ball as a collegian.

    On his final carry – which went for 11 yards – Gurley limped off the field, in obvious pain but under his own power. After the run, with just over five minutes remaining in the contest, he first remained on the turf for several minutes while he was examined by trainers. He limped to the sideline, where his knee was iced down. An MRI after the game revealed that the tailback had suffered a left knee anterior cruciate ligament tear and that surgery was required. His season was over. Later, he would announce that his time at Georgia was also ending – Gurley had declared for the 2015 NFL Draft.

    SCOUTING ANALYSIS
    Let’s face it, 2014 has not been the best of years for the Bulldogs junior – a suspension for a sports memorabilia signing, only to suffer a knee injury upon his return to wipe out the rest of his final season at Georgia. While Melvin Gordon might have passed Gurley on most team draft boards, he is still a better all-around athlete than the Badgers ball carrier, as he is not only a quality runner, but also excels as a receiver out of the backfield and is a dangerous kickoff returner.

    The 232-pound junior has proven to be a potent option in all three phases, as his 4,322 all-purpose yards in just three seasons is second-best in school annals behind Herschel Walker (5,749). His 44 total touchdowns also rank second to Walker’s 52 and his average of 6.44 yards per rushing attempt broke the old Georgia record of 6.42 yards by Charley Trippi (1942, 1945-46).

    In just six games, he was twice named National Player of the Week, finishing with 911 yards and nine touchdowns on 123 attempts (7.4 ypc) in 2014. The biggest test for Gurley will be when he steps in front of team medical staffs at the NFL Scouting Combine. He needs to assure GMs that he is not getting to the dreaded “injury prone” stage most ball carriers with a huge work load experience.

    In addition to his knee injury this season, he had an ankle injury in 2013 that cost Gurley three games, but there might not be a big back in college that has the pure blend of power, balance and quickness that the Bulldog possesses. Compared favorably to Seattle’s Marshawn Lynch, he can generate a second gear to separate in the open and has the nimble feet needed to make precise lateral cuts.

    Gurley has good timed speed, building his acceleration quickly coming out of his stance. He is not an explosive runner around the corner, but shows very good patience waiting for blocks to develop. He can generate a second gear to separate in the open and has the nimble feet needed to make precise lateral cuts. His loose hips and change of direction agility makes him very elusive avoiding traffic.

    The Bulldog has nice feet and above average balance in his initial burst, doing a nice job of “getting skinny” to pick his way through tight creases. He keeps his feet after contact and has the pick-&-slide agility to elude when running in-line. He runs with a normal stride, but is very crisp redirecting on the move.

    Gurley has a very good understanding of the offense and blocking schemes. He shows the vision to locate the soft areas in the zone and shows no hesitation redirecting when the rush lanes are clogged. He has a natural feel with the ball in his hands, doing a fine job of anticipating in-line openings. He has no problems taking plays from the chalkboard to the playing field.

    Gurley excels at finding the cutback lanes. He has the ability to bounce off the tackle and make the initial defender miss. He is a patient runner who gets most of his success because of his feel for the rush lanes, as it is rare to see him run into traffic. He does a very good job of setting up his blocks and shows no hesitation running through openings when he locates them.

    Gurley is a very competitive player who will never shy away from contact. He is a very effective blocker and a tough inside runner who loves to challenge the defender in one-on-one situations. He will aggressively take on a tackler and will sacrifice his body to compete for the pass over the middle. He will lower his head and drive hard with his legs after initial contact. He can bounce off tackles and shows good body lean to gain yardage.

    Gurley is a hard worker in the training room who takes well to hard coaching. He is a mentally tough character who doesn’t let some mistakes take him out of his game. He is a high motor type who likes playing on special teams. He has natural strength and quickness, but will put in the extra hours to improve in those areas.

    Gurley has that extra short area burst to get through traffic and comes out of his stance building to top speed in a hurry. He might not be explosive going long distances, but has the loose hips to redirect and separate. He shows good in-stride quickness when adjusting his direction and can clear the line of scrimmage in an instant when he keeps his pad level down. He has good body lean, but sometimes gets too high in his stance when attempting to race into the second level, failing to sidestep low blocks in the process.

    Gurley excels at finding the cutback lanes. He has the ability to bounce off the tackle and make the initial defender miss. He is a patient runner who gets most of his success because of his feel for the rush lanes, as it is rare to see him run into traffic. He does a very good job of setting up his blocks and shows no hesitation running through openings when he locates them.

    Gurley is a downhill runner with the slippery moves and change of direction agility to get through trash. He knows how to get skinny through tight creases, but needs to improve his leg drive, as he is not the type to move the piles. He runs with good awareness and body lean, but also has the agility to bounce outside when he generates a short burst. He compensates for a lack of raw power (strength is functional) with his balance and body control running up the middle.

    Gurley is a very good stop-&-go runner, whose precise cutting agility will generally see the initial tackler over-pursue. He will sometimes get too fancy and execute multiple moves, allowing the defender to recover, though. He doesn’t have the explosive speed to beat the opponent around the corner, but once he starts turning up field, he has the feet and balance to bounce outside and elude.

    Gurley has soft, natural hands, doing a good job of catching the ball outside his frame. He has the vision to look the ball in over his outside shoulder and the cutting agility to separate after the catch. He is used mostly on controlled routes, but has the quick stride to be lined wide or in the slot. He is very effective settling in underneath and is alert to coverage (very rare to see him run into crowded spots).

    Gurley is a willing blocker with a good eye for picking up the blitz. He shows good intent and aggression chipping on edge rushers and gives the quarterback enough room to operate when protecting the pocket. He will not hesitate to face up and fight for position blocking in-line and makes a determined effort to engage. He is a good contact seeker in space, taking good angles when cut blocking.

    Miami is targeting tailback as a primary draft need and there is talk that Atlanta will look to end the Stephen Jackson era and take the local product before the Dolphins can secure his services. He has the acceleration to separate from defenders in the open, excellent arm strength for the option pass and natural hands as a receiver coming out of the backfield..

    #27198
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    How Do Court Reporters Keep Straight Faces?

    These are from a book called Disorder in the Courts and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and published by court reporters that had the torment of staying calm while the exchanges were taking place.

    ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
    WITNESS: He said, ‘Where am I, Cathy?’
    ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
    WITNESS: My name is Susan!
    _______________________________
    ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
    WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
    ____________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: Are you sexually active?
    WITNESS: No, I just lie there.
    ____________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: What is your date of birth?
    WITNESS: July 18th.
    ATTORNEY: What year?
    WITNESS: Every year.
    _____________________________________
    ATTORNEY: How old is your son, the one living with you?
    WITNESS: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can’t remember which.
    ATTORNEY: How long has he lived with you?
    WITNESS: Forty-five years.
    _________________________________
    ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
    WITNESS: Yes.
    ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
    WITNESS: I forget..
    ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
    ___________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn’t it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn’t know about it until the next morning?
    WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
    ____________________________________

    ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the 20-year-old, how old is he?
    WITNESS: He’s 20, much like your IQ.
    ___________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
    WITNESS: Are you shitting me?
    _________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
    WITNESS: Yes.
    ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
    WITNESS: Getting laid
    ____________________________________________

    ATTORNEY: She had three children , right?
    WITNESS: Yes.
    ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
    WITNESS: None.
    ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
    WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?
    ____________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
    WITNESS: By death..
    ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
    WITNESS: Take a guess.
    ___________________________________________

    ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
    WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard
    ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
    WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I’m going with male.
    _____________________________________
    ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
    WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
    ______________________________________
    ATTORNEY: Doctor , how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
    WITNESS: All of them. The live ones put up too much of a fight.
    _________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
    WITNESS: Oral…
    _________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
    WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 PM
    ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
    WITNESS: If not, he was by the time I finished.
    ____________________________________________
    ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
    WITNESS: Are you qualified to ask that question?

    ______________________________________
    And last:

    ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
    WITNESS: No.
    ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
    WITNESS: No.
    ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
    WITNESS: No..
    ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
    WITNESS: No.
    ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
    WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
    ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
    WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.

    #26752
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    I think Kroenke keeps Fisher for awhile…. he kept George Karl as coach of the Denver Nuggets for 9 years before finally canning him last season, this after round 1 playoff exits for 8 of Karl’s 9 seasons in Denver…….

    also, as majority owner of the Premier League’s Aresenal team, the manager has been in place since 1996.

    I think Sam likes continuity

    A good point. I agree that SK tends to be more patient than most owners are.

    I wonder how many Arsenal fans are happy that he is so patient with Arsene Wenger?

    By virtue of the absurd ...

    #26745
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    Participant

    Well, I am pretty patient in general. So there’s that.

    But as for your example….I just cant conceive of that actually happening. I mean with the talent this team
    has the only thing that will derail it, imho is injuries. I just reject the idea that they could stay healthy and STILL lose. I cannot even imagine that.

    If it happens then, I guess I will be….nonplussed.

    w
    v

    You know, I actually think we agree on this. At least fundamentally.

    My emphasis would be the responsibility that follows from what you’re saying. Given decent health, then what you are saying is that Fisher & Co. would be RESPONSIBLE for delivering a winning team.

    Which is why I would say that, if Fisher manages to achieve what you can’t conceive of, a losing year with good health and this talent, then he surely would deserve to be fired.

    Right?

    But of course he won’t, given the relocation issue.

    By virtue of the absurd ...

    #26743
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    Participant

    … OK. Let’s stipulate that he deserves that.

    Alright, give him that year. Let’s say Foles stays healthy and plays decently, at a mid-table level. And let’s say there are no crippling waves of injuries anywhere else … for once.

    And let’s say we STILL go 6-10 or 7-9. With all the talent acquisition and raising of the potential ceiling … you would STILL give Fisher ANOTHER year to break out of mediocrity? Really?

    You’re a far more <nobr>patient</nobr> man than I am.

    Well, I am pretty patient in general. So there’s that.

    But as for your example….I just cant conceive of that actually happening. I mean with the talent this team
    has the only thing that will derail it, imho is injuries. I just reject the idea that they could stay healthy and STILL lose. I cannot even imagine that.

    If it happens then, I guess I will be….nonplussed.

    w
    v

    #26742
    rfl
    Participant

    I’d probably give him another year, no matter what.
    I just haven’t seen any “Linehan level” bad coaching.

    I simply can…not…ignore the Bradford injuries. Two
    years in a row. How did Bruce Arians team look
    after Carson went down?

    Well, of course, we’ve been around this block before. But, a couple of clarifying points.

    I don’t see how Linehan is relevant. He shoulda been fired after about 2 weeks. That really was bad coaching. I don’t think anyone would say that Fish is at that level. I certainly don’t.

    And I don’t think one needs to ignore the Bradford injuries. That has never been the basis of my complaints. I don’t even blame him for the W/L or playoff results as such.

    As I have said, I blame him for failing to lead teams that approach their evident ceiling of competitiveness. I felt I was looking at a team with poor QBing, but which wasn’t approaching its resulting ceiling. As I have argued ad nauseum, the evidence can be found in their poor starts, their erratic performance from a highly talented defense, and, above all, the fact that, even AFTER the injuries, they held and then collapsed from winning positions in several games which would have significantly raised their W/O record. The performances in the DAL and 1st SF games showed a legitimate competitive potential which the team could not sustain long after Sam got hurt.

    Anyway, here’s the point. The original question was whether Fish should get more than 1 more year. Now, let’s take your point. Fish deserves a chance to show what he can do with decent QBing through the season. OK. Let’s stipulate that he deserves that.

    Alright, give him that year. Let’s say Foles stays healthy and plays decently, at a mid-table level. And let’s say there are no crippling waves of injuries anywhere else … for once.

    And let’s say we STILL go 6-10 or 7-9. With all the talent acquisition and raising of the potential ceiling … you would STILL give Fisher ANOTHER year to break out of mediocrity? Really?

    You’re a far more patient man than I am.

    By virtue of the absurd ...

    #26733
    RamBill
    Participant

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-2015-training-camp-profile-wr-tavon-austin/%5DRams 2015 Training Camp Profile: WR Tavon Austin
    The offense for the St. Louis Rams sure is shaping up nicely, but will the third-year wide receiver Tavon Austin have anything to do with it?

    http://www.rams-news.com/ranking-the-top-20-coordinators-across-the-nfl-williams-14-nfl-com/%5DRanking the top 20 coordinators across the NFL: Williams #14 –NFL.com
    This week, I’ve been examining the guys behind the guys — spotlighting the finest coordinators across the NFL landscape.

    http://www.rams-news.com/nick-foles-feeling-at-home-with-rams-simmons/%5DNick Foles Feeling at Home with Rams –Simmons
    Though he’s been a member of the Rams for only a short time, quarterback Nick Foles has already made enough of a positive impact to trigger talk of a contract extension.

    http://www.rams-news.com/todd-gurley-return-for-rams-camp-looking-realistic-nfl-com/%5DTodd Gurley: Return for Rams camp ‘looking realistic’ –NFL.com
    Todd Gurley’s rehab from an ACL tear is progressing to the point where the St. Louis Rams running back is eyeing next month’s training camp for his return to the field.

    http://www.rams-news.com/why-are-the-rams-the-most-feared-team-by-the-seahawks-fans-audio/%5DWhy are the Rams the Most-Feared team by the Seahawks Fans –Audio

    http://www.rams-news.com/after-initial-shock-of-rams-drafting-gurley-tre-mason-back-to-chasing-greatness/%5DAfter Initial Shock of Rams Drafting Gurley, Tre Mason Back to ‘Chasing Greatness’
    When the St. Louis Rams used the 10th choice of the 2015 NFL Draft on Georgia running back Todd Gurley on April 30, it might have been the surprise pick of the first round.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-should-stay-patient-wait-on-nick-foles-extension/%5DRams Should Stay Patient, Wait on Nick Foles Extension
    NFL general managers who don’t have a franchise quarterback in their stable are constantly on a quest to find one.

    http://www.rams-news.com/which-non-nfc-west-team-will-give-the-rams-problems-in-2015/%5DWhich Non NFC West team will give the Rams Problems in 2015?
    There is no question that the St. Louis Rams have an extremely tough schedule in 2015.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-back-up-plan-austin-davis/%5DRams’ Back Up Plan: Austin Davis
    If Nick Foles were to ever go down, Austin Davis would once again have to come in and try to save the Rams’ season.

    http://www.rams-news.com/james-laurinaitis-talks-rams-roster-growth-audio/%5DJames Laurinaitis Talks Rams Roster Growth –Audio

    http://www.rams-news.com/change-to-nick-foles-gives-rams-average-offseason-grade-video/%5DChange to Nick Foles Gives Rams Average Offseason Grade –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/who-will-be-the-rams-offensive-mvp-in-2015/%5DWho Will Be the Rams’ Offensive MVP in 2015? –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-mcsafety-highlights-2014-video/%5DRams McSafety Highlights 2014 –Video

    #26546
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    Rams’ Tavon Austin aiming to shed bust label in 2015

    Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/19345/rams-tavon-austin-aiming-to-shed-bust-label-in-2015

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Two years into a thus-far disappointing NFL career, St. Louis Rams receiver Tavon Austin has heard the whispers. For Austin, the No. 8 overall pick in the 2013 NFL draft, one word rises above the rest: bust.

    Entering his third season, Austin says he has made it a point to block out what others have to say but he hasn’t been able to completely avoid the criticism. It’s part of why Austin views this season as critically important to his NFL future.

    “I think it’s real big to be honest just because of how the media say I’m a bust and all of that stuff,” Austin said. “I really don’t pay too much attention to it but I know one thing about it is when I’m focused, I’m focused. It’s going to be a different story this year and we’ll see what happens when we get to the end of the year.”

    For both Austin and the Rams’ sake, the hope is that in 2015 Austin will drastically change the narrative of his career to this point. When the Rams traded up to take him at No. 8, they envisioned him becoming the type of dangerous Swiss Army Knife capable of dissecting opponents as a receiver, running back and punt returner.

    As it’s turned out, the bulk of Austin’s production has mainly come as a returner, which makes trading up and spending the No. 8 overall pick a costly proposition for a special-teamer. As a receiver, Austin has 71 catches for 660 yards and four touchdowns in his first two seasons. Those numbers dipped to 31 receptions for 242 yards and zero touchdowns last season.

    In the meantime, the Rams converted Austin into more of a running back under then offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer. He had 36 carries for 224 yards and two touchdowns on the ground in 2014, though Schottenheimer’s insistence on running him between the tackles on a consistent basis left many scratching their heads.

    Which is why some view Schottenheimer’s departure and the subsequent promotion of Frank Cignetti Jr. to coordinator as a glimmer of hope that Austin can deliver on his pre-draft promise.

    Cignetti said Tuesday that Austin looks poised for a breakthrough.

    “Tavon Austin’s had a great offseason,” Cignetti said. “Tremendous. It starts in the classroom. He’s learning, he’s paying attention. He’s bringing it to the practice field. You can just see it from his route running. What a difference. His effort, his attention to details. Every day out here, the guy’s made plays. Tavon’s had a great offseason and he’ll continue that into training camp.”

    In a Rams offense that figures to be power-run heavy, the obvious question is where Austin fits into the scheme.

    Skeptics might say that a 5-foot-8, 176-pound receiver in a run-heavy offense is the football equivalent of forcing a square peg in a round hole. Optimists might view Austin as the ideal complement to that offensive approach, capable of taking jet sweeps and short passes the distance to give the offense another look.

    Cignetti wants to get Austin back to basics.

    “Tavon Austin’s a wide receiver,” Cignetti said. “I wouldn’t say he’s a change-of-pace guy. He’s a guy you can put out there every down and the defense has to recognize, ‘Hey, Tavon’s on the field.’ So, whether it’s running down-the-field routes, intermediate routes, short routes or manipulating his touches, the defense always has to be aware of where is Tavon Austin.”

    Austin’s lack of production to this point doesn’t solely fall on lack of creativity, either. By his own admission, he’s struggled to pick up the playbook and the nuances of route running. During organized team activities, Austin has been sharper than in the past, showing a newfound knack for making plays in traffic. Of course, he’s flashed in practice in the past and it hasn’t translated to the field.

    Much like the rest of the offense, the proof will be in the production.

    “Coach Cignetti has got a good scheme, good plan for me, going to try to get the ball in my hands as much as possible,” Austin said. “But in this league, you have got to be patient. Even if it comes to me blocking somebody or catching a deep ball, I’m definitely up for the challenge and hopefully I can touch the ball a little more this year.”

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    Meet Dr. Erin Shannon, the holistic practitioner several Rams and other athletes swear by

    By Elisabeth Meinecke

    http://www.foxsports.com/midwest/story/meet-dr-erin-shannon-the-holistic-practitioner-several-rams-and-other-athletes-swear-by-061615

    ST. LOUIS — In 2011, Joe Buck was having the worst year of his broadcast career.

    Early on, he’d visited vocal expert Dr. Steven Zeitels for help with a vocal cord that had been paralyzed from nerve damage. If anyone could fix the problem, it was Zeitels, whose Rolodex of clients, from Adele to Steven Tyler, read like a Grammy awards list. But his prognosis on Buck was bleak: While there were outlier cases, the rule of thumb was if his voice didn’t return to normal in three months, it likely wasn’t going to — ever.

    It’s over, the FOX Sports broadcaster thought when he heard the news. Not being able to talk at full volume, in his profession, was crippling. He felt embarrassed and grew reclusive. He didn’t want to talk on the phone. He didn’t want to be social.

    That October, however, during the National League Championship Series, Buck ran into childhood friend Dr. Erin Shannon. The two were almost like siblings — they’d grown up in the back of the Cardinals’ radio booth together, he the son of legendary Cardinals voice Jack Buck, she the daughter of the elder Buck’s broadcast partner, Mike Shannon. Now a practicing psychologist, Erin had recently incorporated a form of holistic treatment known as energy medicine into her work with professional athletes and had experienced success helping them rehab from physical ailments.

    “I can help you,” she told Buck. “I can fix you.”

    Buck, at that point, was willing to try anything. They began a series of noninvasive treatments, and as the major league postseason progressed, so did Buck’s rehabilitation — so much so that by the time David Freese hit one of the most electrifying home runs in World Series history, his call was memorable enough to help capture an Emmy for outstanding play-by-play that season.

    “(It) was ironic and weird that I won it for that year because the year wasn’t good,” Buck admits. “But the postseason was really good, and that’s specifically when I worked with Erin.”

    He continued sessions with her through the NFL season and visited Zeitels again in early 2012. The doctor took a first look, then a second at the previously paralyzed vocal cord. He was blown away.

    “It’s moving,” Buck says Zeitels told him. “It’s fine.”

    Buck admits there are still some days even now, three years later, when he’ll struggle with his voice, but that there are other days when he feels it’s even better than before the problem arose. Overall, he feels close enough to 100 percent on a daily basis that he thinks no one would ever notice he had an issue.

    “I’m forever indebted to (Erin) for all of it,” he says.

    ***

    Dr. Erin Shannon is a holistic practitioner with more than 22 degrees and certifications in both Eastern and Western medicine, and her ability to help athletes — and yes, at least one prominent broadcaster — recover from injury, or improve the mental side of their game, has drawn players from around the world to seek her help. Some of the toughest guys in the NFL walk through the doors of her St. Louis office, and she’s also treated MLB, NHL, MLS and NBA players, and even MMA fighters.

    One of her biggest advocates is husband and St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who has witnessed her success helping athletes heal from injury quicker than their estimated recovery time. Some of her biggest fans are the clients who’ve felt the results, such as Buck.

    “She’s got a great diagnostic ability to figure out what’s wrong with somebody,” Buck says. “And, I think, maybe as importantly — or even more importantly — how to fix it.”

    The field of energy medicine itself is based on an understanding of the body that’s rarely encountered in traditional Western medicine.

    “It is literally the electric energy that runs through our body, just like blood runs through our body,” Shannon explains.

    It hinges on the belief in a strong mind-body connection, a common theme in Eastern medicine, and its noninvasive approach, Shannon says, complements Western medicine’s work. She’s well versed in both schools of thought, but it’s the former that has proved game-changing in her work with professional athletes.

    One energy medicine service particularly useful to athletes is the ability to maintain strength in their muscles post-surgery, even when they cannot work out. Using visual imagery and energy techniques, an athlete can prevent atrophy and shorten his or her recovery period by as much as 50 percent. So, if they’ve had surgery, say, on their right leg, they can walk into the training room however many weeks later without atrophy in the limb.

    “We will cut recovery times in half,” Shannon says. “And recovery is 100 percent, meaning we don’t have weakness in that leg.”

    According to Shannon, the process involves releasing the memory of the trauma from the muscle tissue and the fascia.

    “I’m about as much science as I can be with it, and I’m about helping people.”

    “The body remembers the trauma,” she explains. “The mind might be sleeping from the anesthesia, but those muscles feel you cutting.”

    The technique can even help target a nagging health concern that hasn’t required surgery. Shannon once treated a client who’d been cut from a professional team due to a recurring hamstring problem. He’s since played professionally for four seasons (and counting).

    Because her approach to an athlete’s health, however, is holistic, Shannon’s treatments generally provide both mental and physical benefits. Rams defensive end William Hayes initially came to her because of tightness issues and lower back pain, but says the sessions make him feel better mentally, too.

    “I went to work a lot of times saying, ‘I’m tired today, I’m not going to have a good day,'” he says. “She put in my mind to always say positive thoughts, and when you say positive thoughts, your body actually reacts to it. And I find that to be very true.”

    In fact, the common refrain among Shannon’s clients is her help with the mental side of their sport, which they believe many athletes ignore, to their detriment.

    “I think so often guys get so caught up in, ‘Oh, I need to lift weights, I need to take care of my playbook, I need to take care of running,'” says Rams defensive end Chris Long, another Shannon client. “Football is such a mental game. It’s such an emotional game as well, and I think a lot of what she does can cross over into that.”

    Linebacker James Laurinaitis agrees. He heard about Shannon’s work through some of his teammates and became a client of hers last year. He’s been most drawn to the mental aspect of her techniques, or “mental coaching,” as he calls it, and says he noticed a difference even in training camp.

    “I think as an athlete you always have self-doubt in certain areas,” he says, “so having that mental ability to kind of flip your thought process and try to really tell your mind that maybe things aren’t as difficult as you think they are, and don’t be afraid of certain things — I really found myself throughout the year, and really throughout training camp, just kind of using the techniques that she’s taught about really positive self-talk and really getting rid of all the negative kind of baggage that can weigh you down throughout a game.”

    Shannon’s husband, meanwhile, sees how guys who earn their pay exuding strength and fearlessness can gain an advantage from having an outlet to purge vulnerabilities.

    “Sometimes it’s hard for a guy like that to let the door down and be honest with a coach. Talk about a weakness. Maybe get tears in his eyes,” Williams says. “The fact that she, from a psychological aspect, has been tremendous with these guys on being able to get them through some tough times in their life, some tough days in their life, some tough situations in their life, things they’re going through, has been monumental.”

    In addition to the emotional and physical aspects of her practice, Shannon also aids athletes in developing a skill that all superstars in sports have: Instinct.

    People often say an athlete is “in the zone” when the player is at peak performance. At that moment, the athlete’s focus, control and ability to anticipate opponents seem almost inexplicable, and thus a cliche phrase covers what observers can’t explain. Often, the athlete can’t articulate it, either.

    Shannon can.

    “It’s that moment of optimal awareness where time slows down, crowd noise goes away, and you feel your senses heightened,” she explains. “You can feel like you can sense what everybody’s movements are going to be. You can sense the trajectory of the ball. You can feel the wind.”

    Just like continuous reps help build a certain muscle group or skill, Shannon’s techniques can strengthen an athlete’s ability to get back to that heightened sensory state, enabling him or her to perform at peak level, again and again.

    “The greatest athletes know how to get there, and they can get there all the time,” she says.

    If it all still sounds hard to quantify, that’s because it is. Even Shannon’s athlete patients have a hard time articulating what she does.

    “You should go in and see Doc Shannon,” they’ll tell one of their buddies.

    “Why, what does she do?”

    “Just go in and see it, because I can’t even explain it to you.”

    ***

    Originally, Shannon was supposed to be the athlete, not the doctor.

    She grew up in St. Louis, the youngest child of Mike and Judy Shannon. Her father’s ability to beat a life-threatening kidney disease at age 30 while playing for the Cardinals helped teach his children that determination could conquer anything. Her mother was the kind of person who always made those around her feel better — “St. Judy,” people called her.

    Their youngest daughter, meanwhile, planned to be an Olympic runner, but an injury in high school cost her a college scholarship, her Olympic dreams and, she admits, her identity. With no idea what she wanted to do, the self-described jock enrolled at Loyola Marymount University and became an English major. She took one psychology course, found it ridiculously easy, and was shocked when she saw other kids taking notes in class. To her, the information was almost intuitive — so intuitive that psychology courses became her version of an easy A.

    Erin Shannon is the daughter of Mike Shannon, a former Cardinals player and the club’s longtime radio voice.

    Eventually, one of her professors, the granddaughter of a famous psychologist, began touting Shannon as a psychology prodigy, which, despite the A’s, stunned her as much as anyone. Shannon ended up switching her major and, per her usual habit of going all-in whenever she decided on something, took so many credits that she was able to graduate in around two years. In masters and graduate programs at Pepperdine, the pattern of ease continued; she tested out of classes containing material she’d never studied before.

    Meanwhile, she learned to survive an adventuresome psychology internship in the Los Angeles public school system, which was rife with gang wars. Kids who looked at the young, slender graduate student and thought they had the advantage soon learned otherwise — even the ones who smuggled guns past the school’s security scanners. Raised in the adrenaline-saturated environments of locker rooms and clubhouses, Shannon refused to be intimidated.

    She married a St. Louis businessman and, after graduating from Pepperdine, moved back to the city and soon landed a post-doctorate fellowship at Washington University in the psychiatry and genetics departments. She was the school’s first-ever dual fellow in those departments, but upon having her first child she resigned to become a stay-at-home mom.

    When her family’s financial circumstances changed several years later, she found herself having to go to work — for the first time — in private practice. At the time, Shannon had no idea what a psychologist earned, or any idea how to set up a business. She gritted her teeth and went about it anyway. She took out a $600 ad in the Ladue News once — even that was more than she could afford — and hoped for the best. She still doesn’t know how, but people started coming.

    She became interested in Eastern medicine after it eased her mother’s pain during the last days of her battle with brain cancer. Driven by the memory, and angered that, despite all her medical training, this was the first time she’d been exposed to techniques that may have helped her mother earlier in her illness, Shannon began reading about various forms of energy medicine. Once she started, she kept going, which is how she ended up with 22-plus degrees or certifications combined between her Eastern and Western training.

    “You need to stop getting all the degrees,” Shannon says her brother finally told her. “We take you seriously. Stop. You know enough.”

    “If I have an addiction, it’s learning, researching, studying,” she says. “And I’ll always do that. I’ll always have to stay up an extra hour and read the newest research article. I’ll always have to learn the newest, best, extra-special thing for my patients, because I feel like I need to know and they deserve the next newest thing, and science will always give us something new.”

    After four years of intense research and training in energy medicine, she took on her first sports client in 2011, an older pitcher who’d been having trouble with his arm. She helped fix the problem, and by the end of the following week, her practice was flooded with athletes. Trying to raise six kids, and soon to be divorced, she’d stumbled on a surprising gap in sports medicine. Big-time agents started sending clients. She even had international patients. She found herself sleeping in her office like a gypsy, trying to keep up with the demand.

    She made it work. Shannon now balances a full-time practice and parenting responsibilities, and has found new support along the way. On Sept. 28, 2012, she was on her way to a Rams-Seahawks game when she met Gregg Williams. Two years later, they were married.

    Still, she remains driven by the memory of her mother’s illness — had she known about these techniques earlier, she wonders, would things be different? Could she have saved her mother? Haunted by the thought, Shannon found a measure of personal healing through determination: She would let no one else suffer as her mother had.

    ***

    As an NFL defensive coordinator, Williams is not interested in fluff science — he’s interested in results. And the results he’s seen from his wife’s work with athletes are impressive. In fact, he admits he’s somewhat awestruck by it.

    “It’s amazing on how she’s been able to get some of these guys to bounce back faster from an injury because of some of her methods of energy medicine and holistic medicine that has got guys healthy quicker,” he says. “Obviously, whenever a guy sees that, he’s all in because it’s about availability, it’s about production, it’s about performance, and they have to be on the field to do that. And she’s been able to help that and extend careers and quicken up rehab.”

    Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has seen firsthand what his wife’s methods can do to speed his players’ recovery times.

    He believes her work is a “missing ingredient” in the NFL, although he’s had players as far back as the early ’90s who’ve used some of the techniques.

    “There are a few teams in the league from a psychological aspect that are doing this, and they are doing it and it’s been producing results,” he says. “I do know there are players in every different city that’s out there that understand (energy medicine) and they have been doing this on their own.”

    In fact, Shannon — who is currently writing The Warrior Whisperer, a book due out this Christmas, about her practice — emphasizes the history of these techniques while discussing people’s concerns about any religious implications of her practice. She says the ancient Chinese used these methods, and that they’ve been practiced across a variety of religions. She tries to keep her approach as scientific as possible, her main focus being results for the athletes who come to her for help.

    “I’m about as much science as I can be with it, and I’m about helping people,” she says. “I’m about anything and everything that I can use to help people. And if it works, then I use it. And this works.”[

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    jones is a favorite of mine. i think if he’s healthy he should be the starting center. that’s a huge if though.

    More thoughts on this.

    Wagoner:

    1) Rotating centers

    The Rams have been cycling through three players at center along the offensive line at OTAs: Barrett Jones, Tim Barnes, and Demetreus Rhaney. Fisher said on Tuesday that the team will be patient in making the decision for who will start.

    “They’re all getting opportunities to work with Nick, so he’s familiar, not only with the exchanges, but also the communication,” Fisher said. “We’ll make that decision when somebody shows us he’s earned the job.”

    This reminds me of the 99 off-season competition at MLB.

    They may or may not have a favorite at this point, but they watch film of practices, not just of pre-season games.

    Plus of course, they are probably wary of injuries so in a sense all 3 have to be ready. I mean, last year they had 4 injured centers. So I imagine they are wary of that snake biting again.

    As Fisher says, since it’s a competition, Foles at this point has to know all of them. They don’t know who they will end up with.

    Fisher makes all big decisions patiently. 3 weeks into training camp things could be much clearer than they are now.

    Incidentally, they also have to find out if David Wang has anything, though he is obviously relegated to the low rung—a 3rd if he makes it, or the practice squad. DW has interesting write-ups.

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    5 Takeaways from the Week’s OTAs

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/5-Takeaways-from-the-Weeks-OTAs/2021fb61-e7f1-4a49-b56b-b330b39841f6

    Between a charity softball game, a community field build project, and three organized team activity sessions, the Rams have had a busy week. But here are five takeaways from head coach Jeff Fisher’s media availability from the second set of OTA sessions.

    1) Rotating centers

    The Rams have been cycling through three players at center along the offensive line at OTAs: Barrett Jones, Tim Barnes, and Demetreus Rhaney. Fisher said on Tuesday that the team will be patient in making the decision for who will start.

    “They’re all getting opportunities to work with Nick, so he’s familiar, not only with the exchanges, but also the communication,” Fisher said. “We’ll make that decision when somebody shows us he’s earned the job.”

    It’s important for whoever fills the role to not only master the physical, but also the mental tasks associated with the center position.

    “There’s no indications at this point that there’s going to be limitations from the mental standpoint with the guys that are competing,” Fisher said. “They all understand.”

    2) A trimmed down Fairley

    Nick Fairley looked as svelte as ever when he signed with the Rams back in March. And while he’s dealt with overweight issues in the past, Fisher said he was actually concerned about the defensive tackle being underweight.

    “Nick’s changed his lifestyle, changed his diet,” Fisher said. “We’re trying to get some weight back on him right now and he’s done it. He’s worked hard the last couple of weeks. He’s doing fine. His conditioning level is fine. If he’s going to compete with our guys up front, he’s going to have to run and he knows that.”

    3) Robinson’s looking svelte, too

    While Greg Robinson will never be confused for anything other than a massive man, it’s clear from standing near him that he looks slimmer this summer. He said last week that he’s down to 319 pounds from his high of 339.

    “He’s been working here,” Fisher said. “He’s been rehabbing and he’s working and he feels good. His strength has increased. If there’s a little bit of weight loss and increase of strength, that’s a good thing.”

    4) McLeod’s progression

    Safety Rodney McLeod has evolved into a solid player in the St. Louis secondary. He’s started all 16 games the past two seasons, and Fisher said that McLeod is someone who takes a step forward each year.

    “He gets the game,” Fisher said. “I thought he played really well last year. He misjudged a couple deep balls, but everybody does that. But I thought he was really active, knew what to do, and run-supported very well.”

    5) Two generations of Hager

    As the Eagles’ defensive coordinator in the late 1980s, Fisher was part of the coaching staff that drafted Britt Hager. Now, he’s coaching Britt’s son, Bryce. The Rams selected the linebacker in the 7th round of this year’s draft.

    “It’s interesting because I got to the combine and I wasn’t interested in everybody there,” Fisher said. “I saw the name of the linebacker [and thought,] ‘I wonder if this is Britt’s kid.’ As it turns out it was. It’s a great story behind how Britt was drafted in Philly. He played a long time. There are similarities. Bryce looks a lot like his dad.”

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    Rams’ Saffold working his way back from surgery

    By Nate Latsch

    http://www.scout.com/nfl/rams/story/1553537-rams-saffold-working-his-way-back-from-surgery?hootPostID=4512202478514696ffe74b579bdad068

    ST. LOUIS — Rodger Saffold is still limited during OTAs while recovering from surgery on his shoulder this offseason, but that hasn’t stopped the Rams’ offensive lineman from trying to set the tone during drills.

    “We’ve got the young guys in there, so they need to know how to practice,” Saffold said last week after the Rams’ second OTA session. “If they’re going to give me the go, then I’m going to give it everything.”

    Saffold, who turned 27 last week, has surgery to repair a torn labrum following the season. He said he hasn’t had much pain or problems during his recovery period and that being patient with it has been the hardest thing.

    While the 6-foot-5, 332-pounder was allowed to do some individual work last week, he said he didn’t expect to be cleared to do team work during OTAs.

    Saffold said he was surprised that the doctors didn’t find anything more wrong with his shoulder than the torn labrum. He was also relieved to have had the surgery after playing through pain in the past.

    “That I was able to just tough it out and play all 16 games was big for me,” he said. “Which kind of just let me know that doing this thing isn’t the end of the world, so now I can come back and really play. It’s a crazy game. Things just pop up out of nowhere, but right now I’m very, very confident.”

    Saffold, who is expected to start at either left or right guard, is now the old man along the Rams’ new-look offensive line going into his sixth NFL season.

    Gone are Jake Long, Scott Wells, Joe Barksdale and Davin Joseph — the four players who started on the line with Saffold at the beginning of the 2014 season. In their place are a mix that includes second-year left tackle Greg Robinson, free agent signee Garrett Reynolds, centers Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones and Demetrius Rhaney and rookie draft picks Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown and Andrew Donnal.

    Now Saffold, a second-round pick in 2010, has additional leadership responsibilities in the offensive line room.

    “I’m doing my best with that,” he said. “It’s kind of hard because you’re not in practice, but just staying engaged with the guys as far as getting mental reps because a lot of these young guys aren’t going to get a lot of reps. The o-line room was pretty much vacant most of the year, beginning of this year, and now there’s like nowhere to sit. You have to be able to help these guys out. Right now I’m kind of like a coach, I’m just reading the scripts and helping out where I can.”

    The offensive line room has gotten significantly younger in the past few months. Now the old guy, it’s a little bit strange for Saffold.

    “Yeah, it is,” he said. “It’s kind of different. Especially just with this team, being the longest with this team. Being able to help everybody. Even with Garrett (Reynolds), trying to help him out. Who is a solid addition to this team. It’s a big role but I like those things. I like changes, because that way it keeps you more engaged, things start getting a little less boring.”

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    Quick Progressing with Shoulder Rehab

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Quick-Progressing-with-Shoulder-Rehab/00539de0-65ed-43e1-a9a2-18b36d03184d

    Wide receiver Brian Quick has been working diligently to get back to full strength after suffering a season-ending shoulder injury last Oct. 26 against the Chiefs. While the wideout is still limited in what he can do on the field, head coach Jeff Fisher said on Thursday that Quick is coming along well.

    “We’ll have to watch him, keep him out of contact, but he’s running routes against air,” Fisher said. “He’s catching and progressing nicely.”

    It’s been a long process to rehab an injury so extensive that it surprised the wide receiver.

    “That’s what really kind of got me,” Quick said. “It was pretty bad.”

    But he said his mindset has been in the right place to physically recover.

    “Anybody can give up and think it’s over,” he said. “I thought the opposite.”

    On Thursday, he gave plenty of credit to the Rams’ head athletic trainer Reggie Scott and assistant athletic trainer Byron Cunningham for their assistance in the process.

    “Byron working with me this offseason — we came together and worked really hard,” Quick said. “When I say ‘we,’ he put a lot into it. And I definitely came in and put in the work as well.”

    The wide receiver said he felt he turned a corner about two months ago, while working through some drills with Cunningham.

    “They saw I was coming along a little bit further than expected, so we just went from there,” Quick said.

    Now at OTAs, the wide receiver has been able to participate in some positional drills, but he’s not been cleared to do much else quite yet.

    “It’s always hard, coming out here seeing these guys work, and you have to sit down and watch them,” Quick said. “You want to be out there so badly, but you have to just be patient. It’ll come.”

    The wideout has to be smart with how he maneuvers his shoulder at this point, a task made easier by the trust he’s gained from the training staff. Quick said that he’s gotten hold of how his body will react to different movements he makes on the field, and how he catches balls.

    So while there is still no set schedule for Quick’s full return, he said that once it happens, he’ll be primed to make an impact.

    “I know that when it’s time, I’m going to be ready,” Quick said.

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    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-coach-jeff-fisher-couldnt-say-no-to-garcia-pd/%5DRams Coach Jeff Fisher Couldn’t Say ‘No’ to Garcia –PD
    When he interviewed Jeff Garcia for the Rams’ quarterbacks coach job in February, coach Jeff Fisher came away impressed.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-among-teams-with-best-offseasons-so-far-brandt/%5DRams Among Teams with Best Offseasons So Far –Brandt
    Below is my list of the six teams that have had the best offseasons, with five more to consider at the end for good measure:

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-brian-quick-making-progress-toward-return-latsch/%5DRams’ Brian Quick Making Progress Toward Return –Latsch
    A year ago, Rams wide receiver Brian Quick was one of the most impressive players on the field during the team’s OTA sessions.

    http://www.rams-news.com/new-rams-qb-nick-foles-taking-charge-of-rams/%5DNew Rams QB Nick Foles Taking Charge of Rams
    For St. Louis Rams quarterback Nick Foles, the last three months have been a whirlwind.

    http://www.rams-news.com/could-the-rams-be-a-better-offensive-team-in-2015/%5DCould the Rams Be a Better Offensive Team in 2015??
    Backed by arguably one of the NFL‘s top defenses, it is time for the St. Louis Rams to finally become a complete team in order for them to become a playoff team in 2015.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-strong-pass-rush-is-back-under-co-ordinator-gregg-williams-ap/%5DRams’ strong pass rush is back under co-ordinator Gregg Williams –AP
    The St. Louis Rams’ strong pass rush is back under co-ordinator Gregg Williams.

    http://www.rams-news.com/ready-to-play-rookie-havenstein-an-odds-on-favorite-to-start-on-o-line-this-fall-fsmw/%5DReady to Play: Rookie Havenstein an Odds-on Favorite to Start on O-line this Fall –FSMW
    Yeah, there’s a chance rookie tackle Rob Havenstein may not be starting on the St. Louis Rams’ offensive line come fall.

    http://www.rams-news.com/kenny-britt-on-qb-foles-he-can-throw-every-pass-in-the-book-ap/%5DKenny Britt on QB Foles: ‘He can throw every pass in the book’ –AP
    Quarterback Nick Foles is getting to know his new St. Louis Rams teammates.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-rb-tre-mason-says-todd-gurley-is-family-now/%5DRams RB Tre Mason says Todd Gurley is ‘Family’ Now
    St. Louis Rams running back Tre Mason made the NFL All-Rookie team last season. After being selected out of Auburn with a third-round pick in the 2014 NFL Draft

    http://www.rams-news.com/akeem-ayers-finds-right-fit-with-rams-latsch/%5DAkeem Ayers Finds Right Fit with Rams –Latsch
    Akeem Ayers had plenty of options in free agency this offseason, but the outside linebacker who spent most of his first four seasons with the Titans felt at home when he visited with the Rams.

    http://www.rams-news.com/brian-quick-progressing-with-shoulder-rehab-simmons/%5DBrian Quick Progressing with Shoulder Rehab –Simmons
    Wide receiver Brian Quick has been working diligently to get back to full strength after suffering a season-ending shoulder injury last Oct. 26 against the Chiefs.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-center-competition-just-getting-started-wagoner/%5DRams Center Competition just Getting Started –Wagoner
    Some thoughts and observations from the St. Louis Rams’ second open organized team activity on Friday afternoon:

    http://www.rams-news.com/nick-foles-adjusting-to-vastly-different-offense-wagoner/%5DNick Foles Adjusting to Vastly Different Offense –Wagoner
    Since his arrival in the NFL in 2012, quarterback Nick Foles’ view of the field has largely come standing upright from a few yards behind the center.

    http://www.rams-news.com/todd-gurley-finding-ways-to-participate-in-rams-otas-wagoner/%5DTodd Gurley finding ways to participate in Rams OTAs –Wagoner
    Although St. Louis Rams running back Todd Gurley isn’t technically participating in organized team activities this week, he is doing everything he can to get a reasonable approximation.

    http://www.rams-news.com/greg-robinson-the-weight-loss-will-help-me-be-quicker-video/%5DGreg Robinson: The Weight Loss Will Help Me Be Quicker –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/sasser-story-could-have-a-few-more-twists-and-turns-video/%5DSasser Story Could Have A Few More Twists and Turns –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/jeff-fisher-talks-nick-foles-todd-gurley-and-bud-sasser-audio/%5DJeff Fisher Talks Nick Foles, Todd Gurley and Bud Sasser –Audio

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-og-rodger-saffold-being-patient-is-the-hardest-thing-video/%5DRams OG Rodger Saffold: “Being patient is the hardest thing” –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-rookie-rb-todd-gurley-its-just-about-getting-my-rehab-video/%5DRams Rookie RB Todd Gurley: “It’s just about getting my rehab” –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-qb-nick-foles-building-chemistry-with-receivers-video/%5DRams QB Nick Foles Building Chemistry with Receivers –Video

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    Todd Gurley finding ways to participate in Rams OTAs

    By Nick Wagoner

    ESPN.com

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13019961/todd-gurley-st-louis-rams-progressing-rehab-acl-tear

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Although St. Louis Rams running back Todd Gurley isn’t technically participating in organized team activities this week, he is doing everything he can to get a reasonable approximation.

    Gurley is still rehabilitating from the torn left ACL he suffered in November. For now, Gurley is mostly limited to hanging out on the sideline with the athletic trainers. But he is not just standing around with nothing to do.

    Near the start of the team’s Thursday practice, Gurley worked with athletic trainer Byron Cunningham on the side. As his teammates went through individual drills, Gurley did some high leg kicks and running. He was mostly limited to linear work that doesn’t require him to move much laterally, but he was able to do a few agility drills that required change of direction.

    Gurley also stayed on the field after practice was over, running a few routes for rookie quarterback Sean Mannion. Gurley worked at about half speed and wasn’t cutting like he would in a game, but he did get some extra repetitions.

    Coach Jeff Fisher said Gurley, the No. 10 overall pick in this year’s draft, is progressing well. The Rams have put no timetable on when Gurley will return to practice or games, but Fisher has indicated a willingness to be as patient as necessary.

    “Todd’s doing a great job with his rehab,” Fisher said. “He’s very anxious. He’s probably a little frustrated, probably deep down inside not really happy right now, but he’s anxious to get out there right now, so that’s going well.”

    During Friday’s OTAs, the Rams appeared to dial it back with Gurley. Near the end of the session, Gurley did get some one-on-one time with running backs coach Ben Sirmans.

    Sirmans walked Gurley through some runs, and Gurley ran at about half speed, mixing in a couple of small cutbacks.

    “I feel good. I just can’t play football right now,” Gurley said. “I’m running around and doing agility stuff. It’s just day by day.”

    When not doing work on the side, Gurley said he is doing his best to stay attuned to what’s happening on the field. When the Rams switched from individual drills to team sessions, Gurley stopped his sideline work and joined his teammates in the huddle, standing close enough to hear the plays and run through them in his mind.

    “[It’s good] just being able to get my rehab during practice when they are doing individual, then when team comes, I get those mental reps,” Gurley said.

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    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-report/updated-heart-condition-ends-sasser-s-time-with-rams/article_0fa3ad7e-769e-59b0-aa99-35b2ec756554.html
    Heart condition ends Sasser’s time with Rams
    1 hour ago • By Jim Thomas

    At least as far as the Rams are concerned, wide receiver Bud Sasser’s NFL career is over before it started because of a heart condition.

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher confirmed after Thursday’s OTA practice what has been rumored for several weeks, namely that Sasser could not pass his physical because of the heart condition — known as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, or HCM.

    In layman’s terms, it’s a thickening of the heart muscle that can make it more difficult to pump blood.

    “We did some extensive studies after the draft,” Fisher said. “And it was determined and concluded by numerous physicians that he had a pre-existing condition that we don’t feel will allow him to play.”

    The Rams placed Sasser on the non-football illness list, and then placed him on waived/non-football inury on Thursday. The Rams did pay the former University of Missouri star his signing bonus of $113,000. It’s possible he could be claimed by another team, but his time with the Rams is over.

    Sasser was not at Rams Park on Thursday, but told the Post-Dispatch via phone: “I’m all right. It’ll work out. I’m not down. You can put that out there.”

    Sasser stopped just short himself of confirming the heart condition, saying, “it’s not 100 percent true,” and adding, “we’re going to figure it out.”

    Those later comments by Sasser no doubt are related to encouraging medical reports he received from a cardiologist in Dallas as well as specialists from the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota.

    “The Mayo Clinic doctor did say Bud was such a low risk, he should be able to play,” said Scott Thiel, Sasser’s agent. “The doctors at the Mayo Clinic said they had several patients that came in with that exact case that are currently playing in the NFL.”

    Thiel said the Dallas cardiologist also provided a letter in which he states Sasser should be able to play.

    “He said it’s not an issue,” Thiel said, speaking of the Dallas cardiologist. “He said Bud’s stress test, and different tests like that were in the 99th percentile — that he has an extremely healthy heart.”

    But the Rams obviously didn’t want to take the risk, which is something Sasser and Thiel totally understood.

    “The Rams have been great, I want to make sure that’s known,” Thiel said. “They’ve been nothing but class. But at the end of the day, any risk for them was too much risk.”

    According to Thiel, Sasser’s condition is genetic. He’s had it from birth. To his knowledge the heart issue either didn’t show up in tests at Mizzou, or wasn’t deemed a problem.

    Privacy laws prevent the university from commenting on Sasser’s medical history, but Mizzou athletics spokesman Chad Moller said the Tigers wouldn’t clear a player to play if it suspected he had a serious health issue.

    Following his Mizzou career, Sasser didn’t get invited to the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, so he didn’t undergo the exhaustive battery of medical tests that take place there in February.

    In addition, Sasser didn’t work out or pay a predraft visit to the Rams, so the team didn’t have much medical information on him prior to the draft.

    “Typically what you do is you contact the university, which we did,” Fisher said. “And this was just one of those things that kind of slipped through the cracks.”

    During the predraft process, Sasser paid visits to Green Bay, Houston, Kansas City and Oakland. (Reports that he also visited Denver were erroneous.) There were rumors that some teams backed off Sasser in the draft because of the heart issue. But if that was the case, Thiel said he was unaware of it — no team alerted him about any health concerns.

    There’s no doubt the Rams wanted to make it work with Sasser. There was no guarantee he’d make the final roster on a depth chart that returned the top five wide receivers from 2014. But the Rams liked his size (6-3, 219), strong hands, catch radius and ability to come down with the contested throw.

    Despite a breakout 2014 season, which saw Sasser finish among the Southeastern Conference leaders in both catches (77) and yards (1,003), plus score 12 touchdowns, it was surprising that he didn’t get a Combine invite. In addition, he was not invited to any of the postseason all-star games, such as the Senior Bowl.

    It all added to the chip on Sasser’s shoulder and the determination to make it in the NFL. When he finally got the call May 2 in the sixth round at No. 201 overall, Sasser could hardly contain his enthusiasm.

    “Oh my gosh, if this isn’t the greatest feeling I’ve ever felt in my life, then I don’t know what would be,” Sasser said that day on a conference call with reporters.

    It was hoped that he could provide some of the “sixth-round magic” that former Mizzou teammate E.J. Gaines provided as a rookie sixth-rounder a year ago — having an immediate impact at cornerback.

    But then came the results of his Rams physical, follow-up results and then Thursday’s release. Sasser never took part in a Rams practice.

    “You definitely have to feel for the guy,” veteran Rams wideout Kenny Britt said. “Especially when you’re this close to making your dreams come true.

    “He worked so hard from grammar school, to high school and to college. You know that you get this next step and your dreams come true. Something like that is kind of sad. My heart and prayers go out to him.”

    (Dave Matter of the Post-Dispatch staff contributed to this story.)

    That sounds like he is OK. imo

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    Foles getting acquainted with new team, new offense

    By R.B. FALLSTROM (AP Sports Writer)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/foles-getting-acquainted-team-offense-222552308–nfl.html

    ST. LOUIS (AP) — Quarterback Nick Foles is getting to know his new St. Louis Rams teammates.

    ”We love him,” wide receiver Kenny Britt said Thursday after the second OTA session and first open to reporters. ”Great deep ball, he puts it on the money every time.

    ”He can throw every pass in the book.”

    Coach Jeff Fisher said Foles had a good grasp of the offense, which is important right now since he’s going against a front that was much improved last season.

    Foles was 14-5 as a starter in Philadelphia and is recovered from a broken collarbone that sidelined him the last eight games of 2014.

    ”He’s got his hands full because we’ve got great defensive team speed and they’re doing a lot of things over there right now,” Fisher said. ”We’ve just really been pleased.”

    There have been a multitude of changes on offense.

    Frank Cignetti was promoted from quarterbacks coach to coordinator. A number of young offensive linemen could be pressed into action right away. Veteran guard Rodger Saffold is rounding into form after offseason shoulder surgery.

    ”It’s a different offense, different terminology,” Foles said. ”But that’s the fun of it. I get to learn more football.”

    It’ll be awhile before Foles works with the entire group. First-round pick Todd Gurley is rehabbing from left knee surgery and is getting limited work on the side, but might not be ready for the start of the season.

    Fisher said the former Georgia star running back was ”very anxious and probably a little frustrated, probably deep down inside not very happy right now.”

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    ”You know how it is sitting out for a long time,” Gurley said, ”but I’ve got to be patient. I feel good but I can’t play right now.”

    Foles hasn’t forgotten the surprise of getting dealt for Sam Bradford in the offseason.

    ”I did not expect the trade and that’s the truth,” Foles said. ”Once I started talking to coach Fisher, I was excited to get to know him because that’s where my life was taking me.”

    St. Louis released veteran offensive linemen Scott Wells and Jake Long after last season and devoted much of the draft to the offensive line.

    Tackle Rob Havenstein was taken in the second round, followed tackle-guard Jamon Brown in the third, tackle Andrew Donnal in the fourth and guard Cody Wichmann in the sixth.

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    Havenstein and Brown spent a lot of time with the first unit Thursday.

    ”They’re going to do a great job,” Foles said. ”I remember my rookie year, what it’s like for these OTAs. This is really the foundation and you’re going to have those growing pains.”

    The players who spoke on Thursday said the possibility the franchise might move to Los Angeles at some point is not on their minds.

    ”Right now I’m here and that’s all I worry about,” Foles said. ”That’s all out of our control.”

    Fisher coached the Houston Oilers when they moved to Tennessee and said he’d rather not be apprised of developments.

    ”It’s been my opinion really from the start that when all this stuff started happening I’m better off probably not knowing the specifics,” the coach said. ”That way, when someone asks me I can say I don’t know.

    ”That way, I can say I’m telling the truth.”

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    Rams chat with Jim Thomas

    http://sports.live.stltoday.com/Event/Rams_chat_with_Jim_Thomas_91?Page=0

    Any survey results from Peacock or the Team owners? When should we expect some news?
    by Jack Reynolds 2:05 PM

    Hello again, everybody. As for survey results, nothing yet that I’m aware of.
    by jthomas 2:05 PM

    Jim – With the flurry of activity surrounding the owners meetings – including the possibility of a special meeting just to discuss St. Louis – and, the lawsuit, what’s your current stay percentage? Are you encouraged or discouraged?
    by McGarrett 2:05 PM

    I’m still at 43-57
    by jthomas 2:06 PM

    Hi Jim. Any updates to the story hat Stan was going to sell the Rams to his wife to meet the cross ownership rules. I know the NFL does whatever it wants when it comes to owners, but is that allowed? I’d like to know how that will impact the possible move to LA.
    by STLFootball 2:06 PM

    That was an old story, from at least a couple of years ago, that got published by mistake.
    by jthomas 2:06 PM

    so, with the lawsuit (whatever it is) are the rams as good as gone?
    by steve r 2:07 PM

    I wouldn’t say that. Not at this point.
    by jthomas 2:07 PM

    What’s your take on the demolition at Hollywood Park on Sunday? Do you think it was just Stan staying one step ahead or do you think the NFL basically said “hey, you’re going to win so why don’t you go ahead and start building”?
    by flyguy 2:07 PM

    Not much of a read on it either way. No matter what, the Hollywood Park facility was going down.
    by jthomas 2:08 PM

    I won’t ask for specifics, but do you or any member of the PD staff have information about the future of Rams football in St. Louis that you are unable to divulge to the public? A simple Yes or No answer will suffice.
    by Turf Toe Jones 2:08 PM

    Of course.
    by jthomas 2:08 PM

    Will Trey Watts remain a Ram after this suspension? How about Pead? Keep him around for some extra competition?
    by AzRams`Fan 2:08 PM

    Watts needs to have a very good training camp in order to give the Rams’ coaches something to think about. As does Pead. Obviously, Watts’ suspension opens up another opportunity for Pead to stick around.
    by jthomas 2:10 PM

    Does the team generate enough money in the region to justify staying? Or the inverse?
    by willeyeam 2:10 PM

    I think so.
    by jthomas 2:10 PM

    Jim – Any updates on Gurley’s health yet?
    by Ryan 2:10 PM

    Nothing yet. We’ll know more later in the week at the open OTAs.
    by jthomas 2:11 PM

    Was there any Rams offer to Joe Barksdale that was better than what he received from San Diego?
    by Turf Toe Jones 2:11 PM

    Both the Rams and Atlanta offered more money.
    by jthomas 2:11 PM

    IF both healthy, Bradford out performs Noles or vice versa?
    by Don 2:11 PM

    I’d say Bradford. But the “if healthy” is a monumental “if.”
    by jthomas 2:12 PM

    I keep reading the Rams drafted “road graders” and they’re a ground and pound team….”Gradest Show on Turf”? Kind of catchy if they can really run the ball.
    by AzRams`Fan 2:12 PM

    Yeah, which I believe is what they’ve been trying to do for 3-plus years.
    by jthomas 2:12 PM

    Do you think Peacock and Blitz should have just pushed for a public vote?
    by c_good 2:12 PM

    I know time is of the essence. And I realize it takes money to launch a campaign. But I don’t know why they didn’t try a vote first.
    by jthomas 2:13 PM

    What will Garcia’s role be?
    by willeyeam 2:13 PM

    He has the title of offensive assistant. It’s an entry level position and involves a lot of grunt work. It’s not a high-profile position.
    by jthomas 2:14 PM

    Do you think Nick Foles can lead the Rams to the playoffs?
    by Big Dave 2:14 PM

    If Foles stays healthy, the young offensive line produces, and the defense plays up to its press clippings _ yes.
    by jthomas 2:15 PM

    Hi Jim I just saw the Tre Mason Wired of his 3TD game vs OAK & he seems like a super exhuberant & likeable but humble well grounded guy with high character. He & Gurley could be big together yeah?
    by Sacramento Ram 2:15 PM

    Yeah, it’s just a matter of finding enough work for both _ and Gurley getting healthy.
    by jthomas 2:16 PM

    When do you think we will hear more news regarding the stadium from Peacock?
    by Mark 2:16 PM

    Hard to say. Perhaps when all the land is assembled.
    by jthomas 2:16 PM

    Does Cody Davis make the team this year??
    How about Christian Bryant?
    by mikeq 2:16 PM

    Barring injury, McDonald, McLeod, and Barron are locks. I would think Alexander would be close to a lock because of his draft status (fourth round). That leaves one spot if the team goes with five safeties. And at this point I think Davis would have the edge over Bryant.
    by jthomas 2:18 PM

    Has the season ticket sales dropped from last year at this time?
    by Mark 2:18 PM

    From what I have been told, yes, ticket sales are down although I can’t give you a percentage.
    by jthomas 2:19 PM

    take this with a grain of salt but I know a guy whose son is involved with the development of NFL stadiums. He says the STL stadium is a done deal with Raiders/Chargers to Carson and Jags will be pushed to London once their lease expires (2020s I think).
    by stlrams4ever 2:19 PM

    Clip and save.
    by jthomas 2:19 PM

    I think the biggest obstacle is stan contributing what he needs to for the stadium to go forward. No indication he will. Your thoughts. Thanks
    by Paul 2:19 PM

    It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. What if the NFL approves the Carson site? What other choice will Stan have.
    by jthomas 2:20 PM

    With all the moves made on the o-line, staying the course at WR, and total overhaul in the QB room, I think we may see more of the wide open offense that they tried in the beginning of ’13 as opposed to the G&P they are trying to sell. Thoughts?
    by willeyeam 2:20 PM

    No chance.
    by jthomas 2:20 PM

    If Stan is forced to stay he will have to contribute monies towards the new stadium, that is if he wants owners to vote for him to take over the Broncos when the time comes.
    by Terry 2:21 PM

    Something like that.
    by jthomas 2:21 PM

    Is there a large amount of technique difference between run blocking and pass blocking as an o-lineman? When someone is good at one but not the other, is it seen as a difficult transition to become good at both?
    by Jason Vorhees 2:22 PM

    Well, run-blocking takes more strength and power. Pass-blocking takes more athleticism and footwork. I know that’s a big generalization, but that’s it in a nutshell. Of course, there are also line calls, blitz pickups, dealing with stunts and blitzes that must be taken into account as well in pass blocking. This mental part can be just as difficult for incoming college players as the physical part.
    by jthomas 2:25 PM

    People keep saying Stan may be “forced to stay” as if something is “forcing” him to leave (besides the $$). Am I missing something?
    by willeyeam 2:25 PM

    No, but it’s clear he wants to leave.
    by jthomas 2:25 PM

    The national perspective on the Rams’ WR corps still seems to be that there are no real playmakers. Why do Snead/Fisher feel good about their options on the outside especially considering Quick has still yet to prove he is 100% healthy?
    by Tackleberry 2:26 PM

    They’re banking that Quick will pick up where he left off, that Britt will continue to play like he did last year, and that Austin and Bailey continue to improve. Plus, they have a pretty good idea of what to expect from Cook and Kendricks at tight end. And they’re hoping they’ll be catching passes from a first-string QB most if not all of preseason.
    by jthomas 2:30 PM

    any word on how the 3 FA RB’s, Brown Laskey and Franks looked during rookie camp?
    by Run Ram Run 2:30 PM

    Nothing yet. Today was their first full practice and was not open to the media.
    by jthomas 2:30 PM

    Do you think Bradford will have a tougher adjustment to the philly O, or foles to the STL O? Thanks
    by Paul 2:30 PM

    I don’t think it’ll be too tough for either. Remember, Bradford has his former OC as a rookie, Pat Shurmur, in the same role in Philly. So that will make the transition easier.
    by jthomas 2:31 PM

    Jim: I have hopes for more simple offense with better execution… have you interviewed the New OC yet … any insights to how he thinks? Everyone knowing what to do on every play was a problem at times for the rams.
    by Jeff In Utah 2:31 PM

    Yes, I wrote a couple of stories on Cignetti right after he was hired. He’s run-oriented, yet flexible. His overall philosophy isn’t that different from Fisher. He does want a simpler playbook with simpler terminology.
    by jthomas 2:33 PM

    Jim – Is it just me or has the Raiders to STL chatter died down considerably?
    by McGarrett 2:33 PM

    Two factors at play here. The seeming progress of the Carson project, and Mark Davis saying he was not interested in moving to St. Louis.
    by jthomas 2:34 PM

    Any word on pending FA Justin Blalok?
    by Matt in SC 2:35 PM

    I’ve heard nothing in the way of updates at this point.
    by jthomas 2:35 PM

    Jim, if I gave 500 million each to St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland for stadium construction, would I be on Stan’s Christmas card list?
    by Jimbo 2:36 PM

    No sir.
    by jthomas 2:36 PM

    The player on offense with the most potential to gain pro-bowl/all-pro status is ______
    by willeyeam 2:36 PM

    A healthy Gurley. And probably a healthy Saffold.
    by jthomas 2:36 PM

    Hi Jim, If you were Nick Foles would you make sure your insurance policies are up to date? The ol could be very painful for him.
    by Rick 2:36 PM

    He needs to get the ball out quick.
    by jthomas 2:37 PM

    Roger Saffold: Any hopes of him playing RG, not LG this year .. he is great pulling to the left from the right side, looked lost, slow, tentative pulling right from the left ..
    by Jeff In Utah 2:37 PM

    I guess it’s possible. We’ll see where he lines up in OTAs.
    by jthomas 2:37 PM

    So what’s your take on Policy spearheading the Carson project? Seems like he is openly challenging Kroenke to prove why he deserves to be in Los Angeles and not the Chargers/Raiders.
    by Den 2:37 PM

    Policy certainly gives the Carson project more credibility, and he still has contacts in the league.
    by jthomas 2:38 PM

    i don’t understand why you would not share all the information you have about the rams stadium situation with your readers. this is not national security nor are any lives at stake. public dollars are being spent for this stadium development effort. why withhold information you have that we don’t have from this discussion?
    by branford76 2:38 PM

    Over the course of a story, any long-term story really, you are told things by sources that are off the record. In order to develop those sources, you have to play ball to a certain extent. You have to build up an element off trust.
    by jthomas 2:40 PM

    What do you mean by “clip and save” ??
    by stlrams4ever 2:40 PM

    In other words, remember it, and let’s see if it’s true in a few months.
    by jthomas 2:41 PM

    I’m looking through Cignetti’s Bio and I see he was with Cal Bears and DeSean Jackson when they were averaging 33 points a game. Do you see him opening up the offense (a little) and utilizing Austin and bailey in the same fashion, or is Fisher going to keep a tight leash on the offense?
    by PURE ADRENALINE 2:41 PM

    Again, I believe the basic philosophy won’t be much different.
    by jthomas 2:42 PM

    Over/under 45,000 in attendance for opening day?
    by Dr D 2:42 PM

    I’ll say tickets distributed will be over. Not sure about actual in-house attendance.
    by jthomas 2:43 PM

    Hi Jim, Thanks for all that you do for the cause of professional football for St. Louis! I keep picking up bits and pieces from Twitter sources, Post Dispatch and others that the NFL behind the scenes is more than frustrated with how Mr. Kroenke has gone about his business through all of this. Is there anything to that? Thanks and Go ST. LOUIS Rams!
    by Dan, the Lineman 2:43 PM

    I think there’s something to what you’re saying. Whether it turns out to be a major factor in how things unfold, I’m not sure.
    by jthomas 2:44 PM

    If Carson gets approval and the Rams have to stay in St. Louis, does Kroenke say “I don’t want to spend $450 million on a new stadium. Keep playing in the Dome.”
    by Tom R 2:44 PM

    Don’t think he would turn down an opportunity to play in a new stadium.
    by jthomas 2:44 PM

    In house attendance barely 40K, you can take that to the bank
    by Dr D 2:45 PM

    We’ll see.
    by jthomas 2:45 PM

    How much do you expect Foles to play in preseason? Will he need more reps than a holdover starter?
    by Ryan 2:46 PM

    You would think so, but Fisher in the past has been pretty conservative about playing his top starters very much in the preseason.
    by jthomas 2:47 PM

    Jim, Jack Robinson says he was the best player on the Blue Raider’s in ’03. No way that can be true. The dude was a Little League bench warmer, right?
    by Kevin 2:48 PM

    Jack was a very good all-around player, but no one could punt and run the bases like Kevin Robinson.
    by jthomas 2:49 PM

    Do you think there are any negative effects from the Rams waiting to start OTAs later than every other club in the NFL?
    by Benadict Arnold 2:49 PM

    No.
    by jthomas 2:49 PM

    Fisher’s decision to jettison SB or front office?
    by Don 2:49 PM

    I wonder about that one. Only because even Fisher was telling close associates that he thought the Rams would get a deal done with Bradford.
    by jthomas 2:50 PM

    Just for the record. I am a DIE HARD RAMS FAN in California. When they moved to St. Louis I was deflated, But I stick with my TEAM, not the owner, and I hope all the RAMS FANS in St. Louis would do the same if they moved back to California. But I do understand if they jump ship if Rams are back in Cali and another team moves into St. Louis. But for now GO RAMS wherever they end up!!
    by PURE ADRENALINE 2:51 PM

    If another team had moved into the market in 1996, or shortly thereafter _ say that expansion team LA was supposed to get that became the Houston Texans _ would you have remained a Rams fan.
    by jthomas 2:52 PM

    Suppose the Rams do leave, should St. Louis be entitled to all or a part of the “relocation” fee extracted by the NFL to help replace lost tax revenue and jobs? Or will that money just be divvied up between the other B/Millionaire owners?
    by Benadict Arnold 2:52 PM

    That money goes to the owners and the league. St. Louis won’t see any of it.
    by jthomas 2:52 PM

    How close does Kronke stay on the operations of the team?
    by Don 2:53 PM

    I assume you mean day-to-day operations. He’s pretty aware of what’s going on. But let’s face it, it’s not the same as having an owner on site most of the time.
    by jthomas 2:53 PM

    JT – Why no Sunday or Monday night Games for the Rams? Do you think attendance was a part of the decision?
    by Captain Obvious 2:54 PM

    Lack of success, I’m sure, was the main issue.
    by jthomas 2:54 PM

    I know this probably gets asked every chat, but any insights into the Blalock situation? Hurt? Asking too much? Moved beyond?
    by Michael 2:55 PM

    Just not in a hurry to sign. Looking for the right fit. And we’re not talking about Will Shields here, although his experience would be a plus.
    by jthomas 2:56 PM

    Good Day Jim, Now that the Rams D is loaded over or under 60 sacks for the season?
    by OzyRamsFan 2:57 PM

    60 is a big number. I’ll say under.
    by jthomas 2:57 PM

    Hi Jim, what’s your opinion on this late start to OTAs? Good common sense move or gimmick?
    by steve 2:57 PM

    No big deal. They’ve started this late the past couple of years under Fisher.
    by jthomas 2:58 PM

    Have you heard what’s to become of the Union Light & Power Building? I think the art work showed this a Rams team store but this is too big a building for only a team store. I’m thinking a Rams themed bar/restaurant would be great. At Lambeau Field in GB they have Curly’s and I’m thinking we could have something like that. I haven’t heard any details on this building. Are they holding out on that to potentially use that as a bargaining chip for Stan Kroenke?
    by Terry 2:58 PM

    I think that’s all to be determined. The team’s got to be here first.
    by jthomas 2:59 PM

    Granted the financing is finalized, I would be shocked if the owners voted to leave 400 million in public dollars on the table and let Stan move the team. One owner is quoted as saying Goodell won’t let that happen. To be at 43-57 they are leaving while there is plenty of optimism Peacock will get it done, you must know something we don’t that is very negative towards the deal getting done. Any hints?
    by stlrams4ever 2:59 PM

    Why should I change the percentage until something happens in terms of financing and land acquisition? It makes no sense.
    by jthomas 3:00 PM

    Will you attend the Rams games as a reporter IF they move to LA?
    by Sam Bentley 3:00 PM

    That’s not really my call. Up to my editors. Perhaps the opener in LA.
    by jthomas 3:01 PM

    Jim – I’m 100% behind the Rams getting a new stadium, but I am curious why you only hear about old stadiums being a problem in certain cities. The Buffalo Bills play in a stadium from the 70’s and you never here about it. Why is it an issue in certain cities but not others?
    by Ryan 3:01 PM

    The Rams have that “first-tier” clause in their stadium lease. That’s what’s forcing this whole relocation issue _ not the condition or age of the stadium.
    by jthomas 3:03 PM

    Best season Mariota or Winston?
    by Don 3:03 PM

    Winston. Has better talent around him.
    by jthomas 3:03 PM

    Which of the recently drafted rookies will start/make a meaningful contribution, in your opinion. Put differently, who should I watch for among them?
    by MJ 3:03 PM

    Check back with me in mid-August.
    by jthomas 3:04 PM

    WHEN DO THINK THERE WILL AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE POSSIBLE MOVE TO LA BY THE RAMS? BEFORE DEC. OR EARLY NEXT YEAR? AND IF THEY DON’T MOVE DO YOU THINK THE CHARGERS OR RAIDERS WILL BE HERE IN 2016
    by LAFAN 3:04 PM

    I think we’ll have a pretty good idea by the end of the calendar year.
    by jthomas 3:05 PM

    Jim, What happened to the lawsuit filed in St. Louis. I thought that it was to be held last week. Any updates.
    by Ramsfan 3:05 PM

    The initial hearing was canceled last week, per judges request. I think he was under the weather.
    by jthomas 3:05 PM

    If Carson works out, can Kroenke keep going year to year at the Dome, to see what other opportunities pop up in the next 5 years? (London?)
    by bh 3:06 PM

    That’s an interesting thought. In theory he could, but why would he turn his back on the possibility of a new stadium.
    by jthomas 3:07 PM

    Your predictions on NFC West?
    by Don 3:07 PM

    1.) Seattle; 2.) Arizona; 3.) St. Louis; 4.) San Fran.
    by jthomas 3:07 PM

    Is the Post-Dispatch moving into another building downtown? Do you have a desk there? Or do you basically work from home and Rams Park?
    by Rock15 3:07 PM

    Yes, we’re moving to another building. Haven’t had a desk there in years. Work either at Rams Park, on the road, or occasionally at home.
    by jthomas 3:08 PM

    Hey Jim,
    Do you stay in touch with former Ram players?
    Could you call Kurt, Isaac or Marshall if you wanted to?
    by isiah58 3:08 PM

    Of course.
    by jthomas 3:08 PM

    In regards to the Rams staying or going. What do you need to see that would change your % one way or another?
    by DJM34 3:08 PM

    Concrete news on land acquisition and financing.
    by jthomas 3:09 PM

    Does it concern you that Atlanta chose former Ram Mike Persons over Justin Blalock?
    by Tom R 3:09 PM

    No.
    by jthomas 3:09 PM

    Jim hopefully Fisher has the team ready to play against Seattle. First game last year they did not look ready. Been to training camp the last two years; looks like a country club atmosphere. They do not seem to work that hard. Any Thoughts?
    by Bart 3:09 PM

    It was shocking how unprepared the Rams looked in last year’s opener. Hopefully that changes this year.
    by jthomas 3:10 PM

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    They’ve been unprepared each of the last 3 seasons.
    by Dr D 3:11 PM

    Well, they won their opener in 2013 vs. Arizona.
    by jthomas 3:11 PM

    Why is Bill McLellan writing that the stadium deal is dead? Does he have Goodell in his hip pocket?
    by Rock15 3:12 PM

    I would expect nothing less from Bill.
    by jthomas 3:12 PM

    Jim – Guessing land acquisition would come before financing. Both in fall or land in late Summer?
    by McGarrett 3:12 PM

    Yeah, land first. I would think that could be done by end of summer.
    by jthomas 3:13 PM

    Your choice owner like Kronke or Jones?
    by Don 3:14 PM

    I’d take Jones any day.
    by jthomas 3:14 PM

    Hi Jim–are you more or less optimistic about the Rams than you were before the draft and the Bradford/Foles trade?
    by c_good 3:20 PM

    About the same.
    by jthomas 3:20 PM

    Hey Jim, Is the best chance of the Rams staying here turning out to be the Carson Project? If that is approved, will StanK then set his eyes on buying the Raiders or Broncos in your opinion? Thanks
    by STL45Fan 3:20 PM

    Certainly, St. Louisans hoping the Rams stay here should be rooting for Carson. If Carson happens, there’s no guarantee Davis will sell the Raiders. Denver would solve Stan’s cross-ownership issues, but there are no guarantees Broncos will sell either. Stan could be stuck with the Rams.
    by jthomas 3:24 PM

    Welcome back, Jim! Missed ya! I’m hearing reports that T Rob Havenstein and G Jamon Brown were over drafted by as much as 3 rounds early? Have you seen same? Can you report on contrary scouting?
    by bfulton 3:24 PM

    I don’t know if Havenstein was over-drafted, but I’d say Brown was. But not by three rounds.
    by jthomas 3:25 PM

    Jim – If the Rams leave would the post start covering the Chiefs?
    by Ryan 3:26 PM

    Doubt it.
    by jthomas 3:26 PM

    Did the Rams always intend to target DT Fairley or was that a surprise opportunity? Did it throw original plans to sign, say, free agent Olinemen?
    by bfulton 3:26 PM

    I think Fairley was in their plans all along. I don’t think it affected any plans to sign offensive linemen.
    by jthomas 3:27 PM

    Any Bud Sasser sightings? I have heard that he wasn’t around Ram’s Park much since the rookie orientation.
    by joe 3:28 PM

    Last I was told, he still hadn’t passed physical, and thus hasn’t been cleared to play.
    by jthomas 3:28 PM

    As we all try to see the future, which forthcoming step do you think will be the most telling indicator of a move? Before any official announcement of course.
    by Jack Reynolds 3:29 PM

    To a large degree, I still think this is in the hands of the stadium task force. If they get the land, and nail down the financing, I believe the Rams have a good chance of staying. If they don’t _ say good-bye to the Rams in St. Louis. This should crystallize in the fall.
    by jthomas 3:32 PM

    Jim, With Fisher not liking to start rookies on opening day, how many rookies start the opener on the O line 0,1 or 2 ?
    by OzyRamsFan 3:34 PM

    I’m going with 1 _ Havenstein.
    by jthomas 3:34 PM

    How sincere do you think Stan Kroenke was when he stated how dedicated he was to St. Louis when he gained full ownership of the team in 2010? It seems odd that his “dedication” would evaporate just over the failed negotiations with the CVC.
    by Freddy Kreuger 3:34 PM

    He seemed sincere at the time. He hasn’t been very patient since.
    by jthomas 3:35 PM

    Hi Jim, I saw a stat that 2nd round pick Havenstein benched 225lbs 16 times at the combine. That seems extremely low he a guy that weighs 330. Makes me wonder how he’ll do against linemen that are a lot stronger than him. Hopefully I read it wrong….do you recall what it was and if true, what that might mean for him at the next level? Thanks!
    by Greg 3:37 PM

    No, 16 is the correct number of reps at the combine for Havenstein in the 225-pound bench press. You’d expect more for someone with a road-grader reputation.
    by jthomas 3:38 PM

    Maybe the QB change will show if Bradford was the issue or not. But I’m very happy with our WR group. I won’t be surprised if our points score total is up 20 – 25 this year.
    by PURE ADRENALINE 3:39 PM

    It might. But I think the early concern is whether there will be enough protection for Foles with such an inexperienced offensive line.
    by jthomas 3:40 PM

    Thanks for the chats JT! Always engaging. Though there are a myriad of scenarios that could play out ultimately regarding the Rams staying or relocating, it seems to me that if SD is able to negotiate a new stadium site for the Chargers, the Carson deal is dead. Then, Inglewood becomes the choice of preference for the NFL and thus the Rams. Assuming that the Raiders can’t finance a stadium in Carson alone, what could possibly deter the owners from approving Kroenke’s project? Thoughts?
    by Knux 3:41 PM

    I’ll have to see it to believe it on the San Diego stadium front.
    by jthomas 3:42 PM

    Can a team in so much turmoil, will they stay or will they go, be able to focus enough on the game to make a run to the playoffs?
    by bjf 3:42 PM

    That’s the question isn’t it?
    by jthomas 3:42 PM

    Hopefully the defense decides to play 16 games this season. I live in Philly and saw Foles play. If he gets time he is great. Do u think the OL aqusitions in the draft will give him that time
    by mla 3:43 PM

    Very debatable whether OL draft picks will be able to give Foles enough time this year.
    by jthomas 3:44 PM

    Can Stedman Bailey beat out Quick on the outside, or is his primary competition with his former MVU teammate in the slot?
    by YoMurphy 3:44 PM

    I believe the Rams coaches would prefer Quick in the starting lineup because of his size.
    by jthomas 3:45 PM

    In 2005, when Georgia waved her right to the stadium clause that the Dome had to be in the top quartile, was the Dome out of the top quartile at the time do you think? And, is there a legal document that was written, filed, or signed waving the right to this and I’m wondering what was written by the Rams about that and does it have any bearing on the case the Rams are trying to make now.
    by Terry 3:45 PM

    There were so many stadiums built or massively renovated between 1995-2005, I don’t think the Dome would’ve been in the top 8 in 2005. I don’t know if there was anything in writing by the Rams waving that right.
    by jthomas 3:47 PM

    You think Stan might just be using Inglewood as leverage to get a new stadium in St. Louis? Or is Stan hellbent on LA.
    by Keith 3:48 PM

    I believe Stan is way past the leverage stage.
    by jthomas 3:48 PM

    Hi Jim, Connecticut Rams fan since 1973, Why not go for it and put a retractable roof on the St.Louis new stadium Say to get a Super Bowl?
    by Tim m 3:48 PM

    If you do that, then you’ve got to come up with an extra $300 million. The Task Force is having a tough enough time getting to $985 million.
    by jthomas 3:49 PM

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    Have read the discussions regarding the Rams losing Chris Long after this season due to cap considerations. Seems as if we are just getting close to putting together a competitive team, then we face losing some of the talent we’ve accumulated over the years. Fairley will also be a possible loss. Any others that come to mind?
    by Michael 3:49 PM

    Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, William Hayes, Eugene Sims, Rodney McLeod, and Brian Quick also have contracts scheduled to expire after the 2015 season.
    by jthomas 3:50 PM

    Do you think Fairley is a long term starter for the Rams or just this year?
    by Terry 3:51 PM

    I’m gonna say a one-year rental. If he plays really well, the Rams will have a tough time keeping him beyond 2015.
    by jthomas 3:52 PM

    JT…good coverage, considering the 800 pound gorilla, in the room…how is the Marketing Team going to “sell” The Rams…? Or, since it’s the NFL, it won’t matter…???
    by Norm Van Brocklin 3:53 PM

    I think we’re all curious to see how many fans actually show up once the games start.
    by jthomas 3:53 PM

    would it seem most players want a move or do they comment?
    by Don 3:55 PM

    I’m sure a lot of the younger, single players would enjoy playing in LA.
    by jthomas 3:55 PM

    Jim, will you be at the Coach Fisher Softball Event? and I want to remind all the Rams fans to come out and have a good showing of support so we can keep the Rams in St.Louis beyond 2015.
    by Terry 3:56 PM

    I have a radio show obligation from 6-7 p.m. that day, but may join the festivities in progress..
    by jthomas 3:56 PM

    This is all going to come down to if the financing is in place by the time the big decisions are going to be made isn’t it? StLouis gets the financing=Owners vote for Carson…none in place=Inglewood it is?
    by Shackleferd 3:57 PM

    Don’t know how often I can stress it _ financing is key.
    by jthomas 3:57 PM

    I DO NOT RECALL SEEING AUSTIN, BAILEY AND GIVENS ON THE FIELD AT THE SAME TIME, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING WITH MASON AND GURLEY IN THE BACK FIELD AS WELL. HARD TO DEFEND. WOOPS SORRY FOR ALL CAPS 🙂
    by PURE ADRENALINE 3:58 PM

    Well, Givens was barely on the field at all last year, so you’re probably right.
    by jthomas 3:58 PM

    We find endless optimism for OL draft picks but forget about candidates like B Jones. If he’s healthy, shouldn’t he be ready to step in and be at least better than Wells?
    by flagthrower 3:58 PM

    It looks like that’s the plan _ for Barrett Jones to have first crack at starting job.
    by jthomas 3:59 PM

    Any chance San Diego and St. Louis get stadium deals done locally, and the NFL decides to expand to LA giving Kroenke the rights to own the expansion team?
    by Kip 3:59 PM

    There is no movement for expansion in the league at this time.
    by jthomas 3:59 PM

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    Sad desperate history of Rams OL injury years? There are a few seasons that sort of qualify for that. Here I do 2007, 2009, & 2011.

    Each of those years had their own special injury hell.

    In 2011, they fielded 9 starting OL, and (by my quick count) 8 different OL combinations.

    The starters included Saffold Bell Brown Dahl Smith Goldberg Wragge LeVoir Mattison

    That’s not really the whole story. Because of constant shuffling, some started more than one position. Dahl for example had to shift to right tackle. Brown got benched and then had to come back at guard. They started 3 different left tackles—Saffold Levoir Goldberg.

    The week 1 OL was

    Saffold Bell Brown Dahl Smith

    The week 17 OL was

    LeVoir Brown Wragge Mattison Dahl

    With lots of variations in between.

    Of the 5 in the week 17 OL, 3 were out of football after that season and 1 more lasted just 1 more year. Only Dahl kept playing, though not at ROT.

    All this was compounded by 2 things.

    1. They were playing an entirely new offensive scheme without benefit of an off-season. On top of it, McD was not patient with it—when installing the offense over the summer, he would go over something one day and then move on the next. (In 2012, players remarked on how unlike the year before they would review things as a part of installing the new system, and this was contrasted with 2011). As a result, the OL began the season about as out of sync as I have ever seen them. There were times when a pulling guard and the center wouldn’t have their timing down and one would actually trip the other.

    2. Both Bell and Brown were out of it mentally. After the season, in fact, both had offers and yet both left football. Brown actually got benched, as I said, yet they needed to bring him back. I think Brown’s brother being killed as a soldier overseas shook him up. That was the season also where Jason Smith hung it up mentally—if you recall he was getting neck and head injuries and was checking out mentally because it didn’t seem worth it to him, it was scary to him.

    In 2009, it was 9 starters and 7 OL combinations. One loss wasn’t an injury—they cut Incognito.

    Barron Bell Brown Incognito Smith Goldberg Setterstrom Greco Allen.

    In 2007,, the mother of all OL injury years, it was 12 different starters and 8 different OL combinations. They had 5 different OL combinations in the 1st 5 games….6 in the 1st 8 games.

    Pace Setterstrom Romberg M.Brown (at both OG and OT)Barron Terrell Goldberg Incognito McCollum (at both center and guard) Gorin Lecky Steussie

    ….2007 had 14 OL on the roster, in the end.


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    So far that leaves out 2006, 2008, 2012, and 2014.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/biden-announces-death-son-beau-brain-cancer-015713117–politics.html

    Beau Biden dies at 46; son of VP had life of adversity
    Associated Press By RANDALL CHASE
    2 hours ago

    DOVER, Del. (AP) — He was the privileged son of a longtime U.S. senator and two-term vice president, yet Joseph R. “Beau” Biden III was no stranger to personal adversity

    When he was only 3, just weeks after his father, Joe Biden, had been elected to the Senate, the younger Biden was seriously injured in a 1972 car crash that killed his mother and infant sister. His father was sworn into office at his hospital bedside.

    As a young college student, not long after his father’s 1987 presidential campaign imploded among allegations of plagiarism, he was back in the hospital, holding vigil with other family members as Joe Biden underwent surgery for a life-threatening aneurysm.

    And after launching his own successful political career, Beau Biden was dogged by health problems. In 2010, he suffered a mild stroke at the age of 41.

    On Saturday, Beau Biden died of brain cancer, less than two years after he was diagnosed. He was 46.

    Although twice elected attorney general, the younger Biden never realized the dream of many Delaware political observers that he would follow in his father’s footsteps as a U.S. senator, and perhaps even become governor.

    Biden did, in fact, plan to run for governor in 2016. He made the announcement in an April 2014 email to supporters in which he also noted he would not seek re-election as Delaware attorney general.

    The announcement caught Delaware’s political establishment off guard, and also renewed questions about Biden’s health. In the ensuing months, he kept a low public profile and declined news media requests for interviews.

    “I think he would have run. I think he would have won,” said Delaware Gov. Jack Markell, a fellow Democrat. Markell said he last spoke to Biden in February, when he invited him to a meeting of Democratic governors in Washington, D.C.

    “He was serious” about running for governor, added New Castle County Executive Tom Gordon, a longtime friend and political ally of Joe Biden who described Beau Biden as the most popular politician in Delaware. “He thought he was going to win this battle.”

    Gordon said he last spoke to Beau several weeks ago, when Biden participated in a conference call on crime issues in Wilmington.

    “He was a rock star,” Gordon said. “He had a great image, great character.”

    President Barack Obama said he and his wife, Michelle, were grieving alongside the Biden family.

    “Michelle and I humbly pray for the good Lord to watch over Beau Biden, and to protect and comfort his family here on Earth,” Obama said in a separate statement. The Obamas visited the vice president and his family at their official residence, the Naval Observatory, on Sunday afternoon.

    After leaving office earlier this year, Biden joined a Delaware law firm run by Stuart Grant, a prominent Democratic campaign donor and plaintiffs lawyer specializing in corporate litigation. The law firm announced late last month that Biden was expanding his work on behalf of whistleblower clients, but Biden was not available for comment.

    Biden, a University of Pennsylvania graduate, earned a law degree from Syracuse University in 1994. He served as a law clerk for a federal judge in New Hampshire before working for the U.S. Department of Justice from 1995 until 2002, including five years as a federal prosecutor in Philadelphia. In 2001, he volunteered for an interim assignment helping to train judges and prosecutors in postwar Kosovo.

    With his father, then Delaware’s senior U.S. senator, at his side in 2006, Biden launched his campaign for attorney general. He promised to reorganize the state Department of Justice to better combat identity theft, Internet stalking by pedophiles, street crime and abuse of the elderly.

    Politically astute, photogenic and backed by his father’s political machine, Biden won with 52.6 percent of the vote.

    “He’s supped at this table since he’s been 3 years old,” a beaming Joe Biden said after the victory. Beau Biden was a toddler when his father was first elected to the Senate.

    “I’m just proud of him,” the elder Biden added. “I think he will make the state proud.”

    During the campaign, however, the younger Biden sidestepped questions about his ultimate political ambitions.

    “Sometimes, it’s not good to look too far down the road,” said Biden, who remained similarly cautious about discussing his long-range plans in an interview with The Associated Press after suffering the stroke in 2010.

    “Having long-term dreams is a good thing … but having a plan has never worked for me, because life always intervenes,” Biden told the AP at the time. For Biden, his initial health scare was also a reminder to balance his job with family time — advice he encouraged others to follow.

    “It’s kind of reinforced how I’ve operated my life,” he said.

    As attorney general, Biden established a child predator unit, joined other attorneys general in taking on mortgage lenders over foreclosure abuses, proposed tougher bail restrictions for criminal defendants, and defended the death penalty, putting him at odds with some fellow Democrats.

    But a spate of shootings in Biden’s hometown of Wilmington went largely unabated during his tenure, and his office stumbled in some high-profile murder prosecutions, including two cases in which murder charges were dropped. Biden also faced scrutiny over how his office handled the case of Earl Bradley, a pediatrician who sexually assaulted scores of young patients over more than a decade before being arrested in December 2009.

    Biden cited his focus on the Bradley case in announcing in January 2010 that he would not run for the Senate seat that his father vacated in 2008 when he was elected vice president.

    The younger Biden’s decision stunned political observers, including many fellow Democrats who thought Joe Biden’s former chief of staff, Ted Kaufman, had been appointed to the Senate on an interim basis to keep the seat warm for the son. A fellow Democrat, New Castle County Executive Chris Coons, won the seat after Castle, who had been considered the odds-on favorite, was upset by tea party-backed Christine O’Donnell in the GOP primary.

    “I have no regrets,” Biden said after O’Donnell’s stunning primary victory scrambled the political calculus surrounding the Senate seat.

    Biden coasted to re-election as attorney general in 2010 after Republicans declined to field a candidate against him.

    In addition to his work as a lawyer and attorney general, Biden was a major in an Army National Guard unit that deployed to Iraq in 2008.

    Beau Biden is survived by his wife, Hallie, and children Natalie, 11, and Hunter, 9, along with his father and stepmother, a brother and sister, a sister-in-law and brother-in-law, and three nieces.

    Funeral arrangements were not announced. Beau Biden is entitled to military funeral honors, said Lt. Col. Len Gratteri, a spokesman for the Delaware National Guard.

    ___

    Associated Press Writer Darlene Superville in Washington contributed to this report.

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    “…Among professional athletes, the number of ACL injuries has soared…”

    http://grantland.com/features/derrick-rose-rob-gronkowski-rise-acl-tears/
    The Nastiest Injury in Sports

    Gronk was just the latest victim. Why are ACL tears on the rise?
    by Neal Gabler on December 10, 2013

    To be honest, it doesn’t look like much. It’s short, just over an inch in length, and stubby, about half an inch wide. It is white, slick, and striated like a cluster of angel-hair pasta. It isn’t rubbery, and it doesn’t have much elasticity. In fact, you wouldn’t give it a second thought — not until it self-destructed, which it occasionally does, always at the most inopportune of times. And then you wouldn’t think about much else but that gremlin that now sits at the center of so many of our games. It was there when Kansas City Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard dove at Tom Brady’s knee on the 15th offensive snap of the Patriots’ season in 2008. It was there in December 2011 when Adrian Peterson went up the middle for three yards in the third quarter. It was there when Derrick Rose landed awkwardly during the first game of the 2012 playoffs, making him grimace in agony and sending him to the sidelines for over a year. It was there two years ago when Mariano Rivera was shagging flies in Kansas City and tripped over the apron to the warning track, ending his season. It was there just this last weekend when Cleveland Browns safety T.J. Ward crashed into the knee of Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski. It has been there for Mickey Mantle, Wes Welker, Jerry Rice, Ricky Rubio, Donovan McNabb, Craig Biggio, and Tiger Woods, to name just a handful. That gremlin is always there — just waiting to pop.

    Lately, though, it seems to have been acting up a lot — so much so that one might even say the three most important letters in sports are not NFL, NBA, MLB, or NHL but ACL, as in the dreaded anterior cruciate ligament, that little bundle of collagen right at the center of your knee. It is that bundle that tears apart, leaving athletes to scream, cry, and pound the turf or court in frustration and torment. There are nearly 400,000 ACL repair procedures each year in the United States — a disproportionate number of them for women, who are seven or eight times more likely to tear their ACLs than men. If there has been an uptick in ACL injuries among the general population, says Dr. Brian Cole, the Chicago Bulls’ team physician and the surgeon who performed Derrick Rose’s reconstructive surgery, it is because more people, especially young people, are participating in sports. “You’re seeing more exposure to high-risk activities,” says Dr. Cole, “and you’re seeing a different level of athleticism that’s probably contributing.” But that’s the general population — you and me. Among professional athletes, the number of ACL injuries has soared. When Rose went down with his ACL tear, he was, according to Basketball Prospectus, the first true star to have done so since Danny Manning tore his ACL in 1995, and Manning was the first since Bernard King tore his in 1985. Then came the deluge. Though the NBA refuses to release information on ACL tears, by one tally, seven guards suffered tears after Rose, including Iman Shumpert, who tore his the same day as Rose; Rajon Rondo; and Leandro Barbosa. Ricky Rubio tore his ACL just a month before Rose.

    Where the number of tears seems to hit epidemic proportions is in the NFL. Professional football doesn’t release ACL figures, either, but Kevin Seifert of ESPN.com discovered that as of October 23, 30 players had been placed on injured reserve because of ACL tears — topping the 25 for all of 2011 and edging close to the 32 for all of 2012. As early as this year’s NFL training camps, ACLs were snapping all over the place.

    But here is the thing about ACL tears: They’re not just another injury. They are the Godzilla of injuries. They are painful beyond tolerance, they take eons to rehab, and they always leave a lingering doubt in the athlete’s mind that he will ever be whole again. An ACL tear tests one’s mettle. An ACL tear goes to the very heart of resilience and mental toughness. An ACL tear is the standard against which the athlete himself measures his determination. An ACL tear is the absolute limit.

    The Sickening “Pop”

    The ACL sits in the middle of the knee, in a notch on the femur or thigh bone on the top and in another notch on the tibia or shinbone on the bottom. It is between the medial collateral ligament on the inside of the knee and the lateral collateral ligament on the outside, both of which keep the knee from moving from side to side. It is in front of the posterior cruciate ligament, which keeps the tibia from sliding back behind the femur. (PCLs don’t rip much because — thankfully — there aren’t too many occasions in sports where the knee goes backward.) The knee itself is covered in front by the patella, or kneecap, a kind of cup that is connected to the femur by the quadriceps tendon and to the tibia by the patellar tendon.1 The function of all these parts is to hold the femur and tibia together so they don’t slip apart. Because if they do, frankly, you won’t be able to walk.

    Rob Gronkowski

    Theoretically, an athlete couldn’t function without an intact ACL, at least not any athlete who had to pivot or make sharp turns or accelerate or decelerate quickly. The ACL is what makes these movements possible by limiting the range of motion the knee can accommodate. It is a kind of restrictor, and when it pops, it is because the athlete has overridden the restrictor. (Baseball players don’t tear their ACLs often because baseball is a linear sport without sharp turns; it doesn’t require a player to juke the way football, basketball, and soccer do. Baseball players work within the restriction of their joint.) But here’s the rub: The ACL is not only the weakest of the four ligaments that connect the femur and tibia, it is the weakest ligament in the entire body. And professional athletes subject that stub of weak collagen to all sorts of forces it was not designed to withstand.2

    Athletes talk about hearing the pop. Some describe it as a sound like a rubber band snapping. Some say you not only hear the pop the way you hear ordinary sounds, but that it travels up your body from the knee, so that your whole trunk reverberates with it.

    It doesn’t take much to “pop” the ACL, which is typically what happens when the ACL tears. Athletes talk about hearing the pop. Some describe it as a sound like a rubber band snapping. Some say you not only hear the pop the way you hear ordinary sounds, but that it travels up your body from the knee so that your whole trunk reverberates with it. There is no mistaking that pop. Just about every athlete knows immediately what it means. Dr. Cole says that for all the MRIs and other sophisticated tests devised to determine if one has torn his or her ACL, the surest sign is still the “pop” and the swelling that almost invariably follows when the blood vessels in the knee bleed into the joint. And, of course, the pain — the unbearable pain that knifes through your leg.

    It is not uncommon to think the pop is the result of violence, of a hit to the knee that jars it and snaps the ligament. And sometimes it is — to wit, Brady and Peterson. But the vast majority of ACL tears are not a product of contact. If you saw Reggie Wayne, all alone in the flat without a defender within 10 yards of him, turning to the ball and then suddenly crumpling to the turf during the Broncos-Colts game earlier this year, you know. Just about every ACL tear comes about when a player is twisting, trying to avoid contact or to deceive a defender, and then plants his leg in such a way that he has increased the torque on the ACL, bending it as it was not intended to bend. Essentially, it is the juke that will kill you.

    Dr. Robert Litchfield, medical director of the Fowler Kennedy Sport Medicine Clinic at the University of Western Ontario and part of the Canadian Alpine Ski Team medical group, studied videotape of ACL injuries and found a pattern. He found that those who tore their ACLs all did the exact same thing with their legs when they were avoiding a defender or reacting to an offensive player. “They throw it [the injured limb] out to the side, and they try to make an upper-body move where they move away from the side that they’ve just planted,” he says. “And they get to what we call a `point of no return.’” The knee misaligns, turns inward, and the athlete lands knock-kneed. That is when you hear the pop. That is why, Dr. Litchfield believes, an athlete like LeBron James will never suffer a tear. “When he comes down from a dunk, he comes down very low and powerfully versus coming down on an extended leg.” In short, LeBron’s legs are bowed, and athletes who bow their legs generally don’t tear their ACLs.

    The problem is that athletes in the heat of battle seldom think about how they plant or land. They just do it. And when they do, and their ACL tears, they are basically screwed.

    Battling the Gremlin

    Or, to be more precise, they used to be screwed. If Derrick Rose had suffered his injury 20 or 30 years ago, his career would have ended because doctors wouldn’t have known what to do about it. Which isn’t to say that they hadn’t been trying for a long, long time. According to a French history of ACL surgery, the first ACL repair was performed in 1895 in Leeds, England, on a 41-year-old miner who had a load of dirt fall on him. What the doctor did was stitch the torn ACL ends back together, and the miner claimed he was good as new, though this seems highly unlikely. In 1903, a German doctor performed the first ACL replacement surgery using silk braids for the ligament. No luck. Fourteen years later, an English surgeon named Dr. Ernest W. Hey Groves performed the first ACL reconstruction surgery by harvesting the iliotibial band that runs outside the thigh from the hip to the shin and then affixing it to the femur and tibia with ivory screws. Though the operation was imperfect, that is pretty much the way it was until the 1960s. Then, a Dr. Kenneth Jones of Little Rock, Arkansas, began using the patellar tendon as a graft. ACL It was primitive. Most surgeons opened up the knee, leaving gruesome scars. And the procedure wasn’t standardized. Every surgeon sort of did his or her own thing. What’s more, it wasn’t terribly successful, especially for athletes. It was designed to get patients walking, not faking out linemen on the field or centers on the court. In fact, the surgeons themselves were so distrustful of their own handiwork, so fearful their grafts would rip, they would immobilize the knee in huge casts for months after the surgery — which, as it turned out, only served to stiffen the knee, reduce its range of motion, and shrink the quad muscles in front of the leg. By the time the patients emerged from their casts, they had to rebuild their entire leg musculature from scratch. And that couldn’t be done. It was over.

    And then came Dr. William Clancy. Clancy had been recruited in 1974 to head a sports medicine program at the University of Wisconsin. While attending a lecture on ACL reconstruction by a Swedish physician, he had his Eureka! moment. Since Jones, just about everyone using the patellar tendon had left it attached to the tibia and then routed the tendon through the knee and fixed it to the femur. Clancy said he thought the patellar tendon should be harvested with bone blocks on each end, because it would be more flexible and stronger. He would then drill holes into both the femur and tibia, pull the tendon through, and attach the blocks through the holes. He felt this would more closely approximate the actual ACL. The “Clancy procedure,” albeit with all sorts of tweaks and refinements, remains the basic form of reconstruction to this day.

    It isn’t exactly the most exciting surgery. ACL reconstruction typically takes between 90 minutes and three hours, depending on the skill of the surgeon and the ancillary damage to the knee. Surgeons basically make a small incision (some make two or three), through which they harvest a strip from the middle third of the patellar tendon with the bone blocks at each end. (Some surgeons use hamstring tendons, and others use what is called an “allograft,” which is a tendon from a cadaver.) Then, working through tiny poke holes and guided by an HD camera, they remove the shredded ACL, drill the holes in the femur and tibia, pull the graft through the tunnels with a tiny metal probe, and fasten it at each end with bioabsorbable screws. In about eight months, the tendon “vascularizes” — that is, it is transformed into a ligament and becomes an actual, organic part of the knee. Though some have claimed a reconstructed knee will never be entirely normal, there is good news: The new patellar tendon is stronger than the original ACL. In fact, a Scandinavian registry shows that the rate of re-rupture after an ACL tear is only 10 to 12 percent, which is just about the same rate for an ACL tear in the other knee. But even with all the surgical advances and new medical knowledge, it isn’t easy to return to the pre-tear level. A University of Pennsylvania study found that of 31 NFL running backs and 33 wide receivers who suffered ACL tears between 1998 and 2002, one in five never returned, and those who did were one-third less effective in the three years after surgery. Another study, by Dr. James Andrews, the orthopedic surgeon who performed Adrian Peterson’s reconstruction, found that of 49 NFL players operated on at his clinic from 2001 to 2006, only 64 percent returned to action. Some outstanding backs, like Jamaal Anderson and Terrell Davis, never returned to previous form.

    The ACL can do that to you.

    The Miraculous Return of All Day

    And then there is Adrian Peterson, who has become the poster boy for ACL recovery. Peterson suffered his tear on December 24, 2011. If you had to have an ACL tear, it was nearly impeccable timing. Tearing his at the very end of the season meant he didn’t miss much time in 2011 and that he had a long time to rehab for 2012. And Peterson had another piece of luck, if you can call tearing your ACL luck. He only tore his ACL and MCL. He didn’t have a meniscus issue. As his physical therapist Russ Paine said, “Part of the reason for someone not returning back is not that they’re not trying hard, but it’s the status of the interior of the joint.” A bad joint makes it much harder. According to Paine, Peterson’s knee was pristine.

    Less than nine months after his injury, Peterson was back on the field. That, in itself, wasn’t so unusual. ACL tear recovery usually takes anywhere from nine months to a year. But almost every surgeon or therapist will tell you that when an athlete returns, it takes him awhile to regain his form, typically a year or so. Peterson didn’t just return to form. He began racking up yards, bulling over would-be tacklers, hitting the open field, bobbing and weaving and outrunning everyone. Peterson was a miracle. He finished the season just nine yards shy of the single-season rushing record and he won the MVP award. Not good as new. Better than new. That’s what everyone marveled at. Adrian Peterson In doing this, Peterson set a standard that would bedevil other ACL-tear sufferers. If he could do it, why couldn’t they? (This puts aside the huge question some have raised of whether Peterson had the assistance of PEDs.) Why did Derrick Rose, for example, keep resisting coming back last season when he was allegedly cleared to play by his doctors? Why didn’t all the ACL sufferers just man up the way Peterson had?

    The answer, simply: Every ACL tear is its own private hell with its own particular road back. Vikings trainer Eric Sugarman told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that Peterson was a “disaster” the first two weeks after surgery. “He was about as miserable as a human being could be. He was calling me late at night, texting me with hate messages. He didn’t shave. He lost weight. He hurt.” Sugarman devised an early exercise protocol — days after surgery, Peterson was on a stationary bike, as was Derrick Rose — and handed him off to Russ Paine of the Iron Man Sports Medicine Institute in Houston.

    Paine looks like a marine drill sergeant and is one of the most highly regarded therapists in the business. In the 1970s, he tore both of his ACLs playing high school basketball in Lubbock, Texas. Doctors opened up his knees and used the hamstring tendon and iliotibial band to pull back the tibia. Then he went to a whirlpool and limped off to play again. He would never regain full strength. But Paine admits his own situation is one of the things that pushed him toward a career in physical therapy, where he manages the rehabs of as many as 100 professional athletes a year. What makes him sought after, he thinks, is that where many less-experienced therapists are conservative when it comes to pro athletes, afraid they might push them too hard and wind up reinjuring them, Paine has done this so long, he knows exactly what the threshold is and usually goes right up to it. “They may hurt your feelings,” he would say to his clients of his exercises. “But they won’t hurt your knee.”

    That’s what he did with Peterson — worked him right up to the threshold. Peterson arrived at Paine’s facility at 10 days post-op and stayed six months. Each day he spent 90 minutes to two hours with Paine, then went off and did his core strengthening for hours more. This was the routine five, sometimes six days a week. Paine said other NFLers would watch Peterson and shake their heads in awe. Once Peterson’s quads began to come back — Paine says the quads “melt like butter” after surgery — he would work with Paine for three hours on range of motion and balance before going off to lift weights. Paine said the running back was a “monster” in the training room just as he had been a “monster” on the field.

    “ACL rehab isn’t about bigger muscles,” Paine says, “it is about muscle reeducation.” Peterson had to learn to get his muscles firing with his knee. He did. Less than a month after the tear, Peterson was off his crutches. By March he was running. By early May he was cutting. By May 30, he was racing teammate Percy Harvin. By September he was playing.

    But it’s what you don’t see in ACL rehab that counts just as much as what you do see. An ACL tear is not just a gremlin in the knee; it’s a gremlin in the brain. You have to convince yourself that you can be exactly who you were, and that is very hard to do. Expunging those doubts may have been the biggest part of Derrick Rose’s recovery. He didn’t want to have to think about his knee, and he had to reach the point where he wouldn’t. Clippers guard Jamal Crawford, who tore his ACL in 2001, said he walked with a limp for months even though he knew the reconstructed ACL was stronger than the original. The limp was in his head. As Dr. Litchfield, the Canadian ski team adviser, puts it, when an athlete doesn’t return to his sport, you assume something went wrong with the surgery and that he is physically impaired. But, Litchfield says, examinations don’t show any physical difference between those who return and those who don’t. The issues are likely to be psychological — the non-returners tending to be “higher-anxiety people or more cautious.” They just can’t bury that gremlin once and for all the way Adrian Peterson did.

    The Strange Case of DeJuan Blair

    But Adrian Peterson, remarkable as he is, at least had ACLs. DeJuan Blair was already a schoolboy phenom in Pittsburgh when, the summer before ninth grade, he went up for a block and landed awkwardly on a concrete court, hearing the infamous “pop.” He had to crawl his way to the sideline, writhing. At the hospital, he was diagnosed with a bone bruise, but when he couldn’t walk, he got a second opinion: ACL tear. The Pittsburgh Steelers’ team physician performed his surgery. It was just about a year later, during the high school playoffs, that Blair batted the opening tipoff to an opposing player, raced down the court to block his shot, levitated, landed, and felt the pop again, this time in his left knee. He knew immediately. “That one was gone,” he remembers. There was another surgery. He was on painkillers for three months and would wake up in the middle of the night crying because he wasn’t sure he could make it back again.

    “I wanted to give up on basketball,” he says, “but my mother and my father and my grandmother kept me going — and the love of the game.” He resolved that he would come back stronger. During his junior year, he wore two knee braces to help stabilize the knees, but even though he could play, there was that mental gremlin warning him that they could tear again. DeJuan Blair Which is exactly what happened. He re-tore his right ACL in 11th grade dunking in his coach’s backyard. But this time he dared not go to the hospital because he feared what his parents would say about his trying to dunk on his fragile knees. So he went to a therapist and tried to work through the pain. He did. And then, just before his senior year, he was playing with his brothers on a concrete court in the Hill District, went up for a dunk, landed, and … pop! He limped home, holding in the agony, returned to the therapist, and somehow, the pain subsided. As Blair puts it now, “I was blessed.”

    How blessed not even he knew. He became an All-American at Pittsburgh and runner-up to Blake Griffin as College Player of the Year, then left after his sophomore season to pursue his dream of playing in the NBA. It was at the draft camp in Chicago that his knees were X-rayed and the radiologist delivered the news: Blair had been playing without ACLs. Even Blair said he was “amazed.” He knew he had reinjured the knees, but said he had no idea he had actually torn the ACLs again. Charger quarterback Philip Rivers had played in the 2008 AFC championship game without a right ACL, Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward had played without a left ACL. But no one had ever had a professional career without any ACLs.

    Of course, once teams heard, his draft stock plummeted. Expected to go in the first round, he fell to 37 and the San Antonio Spurs, where he played his way into the rotation. There are several theories of what enabled Blair to play when his knees should have been slipping and sliding. The most convincing is that Blair spent so much time building his quads, hamstrings, and calf muscles that they grew oversize enough to stabilize the knee. Blair himself says he had always worked diligently on his legs — at 6-foot-7 and 270 pounds, he is built like a Transformer — and that he never felt any pain after those first torments or played the game any differently from when he had ACLs. As for the mental part, since he didn’t know he didn’t have functional ACLs, there was nothing to overcome. Now he is on the Mavericks, playing solid minutes and putting up good numbers.

    He says, not unreasonably, that his life would make a good movie.

    Why Women More Than Men?

    We know the proximate cause of ACL tears: that odd foot plant and rotation. But that raises the question of why a trained athlete plants his foot that way when his body should be telling him otherwise — or why, when he does, the ACL can’t withstand the torque, when it seems to have been designed to do so. Theories abound. There is evidence that fatigue plays a role. Most ACL tears occur late in a game when an athlete may be running on fumes, and Dr. Cole, Rose’s surgeon, has published a paper demonstrating that in the NBA, tears typically happen in the second half to players who have heavy minutes. There is some evidence that ACL injuries increased with the rise of artificial playing surfaces, which are less forgiving to the knee than grass, and it is a fact that hockey players suffer fewer ACL tears than basketball, football, or soccer players, in part because they slide along the ice rather than plant, putting less pressure on the knee.

    Then there is the genetic explanation, which has been promoted by Dr. Tarek Souryal, team physician for the Dallas Mavericks. Souryal believes the real culprit is the size of the tunnel or notch within which the ACL sits. When the notch is narrow, the ACL has no maneuverability; according to Souryal, people with narrow notches are 26 times more likely to suffer tears, either because the notches are too small to accommodate a normal-size ACL or because small notches lead to undersize ACLs. (Other doctors dispute this.) In fact, DeJuan Blair said he was told that his ACLs shredded for precisely this reason: They were too small. Other studies show that members of the same family often suffer ACL tears, but doctors are loath to attribute this to genetics. It may be a familial factor — namely, certain families are more athletically active than others and thus more likely to find themselves in situations where they could tear an ACL. And then there is the neurological explanation. According to this analysis, knees have two types of stability: static (the ACL or a graft) and dynamic (the quads and hams around the knee). The quads and hamstrings must fire in concert to keep the knee stable and the ACL from rotating abnormally. But sometimes the muscles don’t fire in concert. Sometimes the synchronicity is off and the muscles don’t compensate for the stress on the ligament, which is what one recent study concluded. Another study found a “latency” in the hamstrings — meaning the hammies were slow to react to a force — and concluded that this contributed to ACL “deficiency.” These studies are especially relevant to female athletes, who are so much more likely to suffer ACL tears than men. The reasons, again, are variable: small notches; a skeletal structure that angles knees inward, especially upon landing after a jump, and inclines tibiae backward where they are less able to take stress; even hormones. The only upside, says Russ Paine, is that, at least anecdotally speaking, women seem to rehab better than men do because, Paine attests, they are just plain tougher in the training room.

    The Brain Problem

    None of this explains, however, why there seem to be more ACL tears than there used to be. And, naturally, there are a whole lot of theories about that, too. Some blame expanded rosters — it used to be that anyone with a compromised ACL would have been weeded out long before arriving at the NBA or NFL. Some blame training. DeJuan Blair thinks that “a lot of people don’t work on their legs,” especially point guards, who are suffering the bulk of the NBA’s ACL tears. They work on their quickness instead. Kevin Wilk, a trainer who has worked closely with Dr. Andrews, agrees about preparation. He has said that NFL players may show up to camp in good condition, but not in football shape, and the shorter training camps only contribute to the problem. In any case, no surgeon or therapist I spoke to knew of a professional football or basketball team that worked on planting drills to diminish ACL stress. Some blame the new NFL rules that force tacklers to aim low rather than high, meaning more hits to the knees. Some blame the evolution of the games themselves. Knicks swingman Iman Shumpert, who suffered an ACL tear, told Ken Berger of cbssports.com, “You watch Bob Cousy and them — they’re running straight lines. Now you’ve got all these crossovers, you’ve got Eurosteps, you’ve got guys like James Harden scooping the ball and making their body scoop low before it comes up. We’re putting different types of stress on our bodies.”

    But there is something else that may help account for the increase. Doctors and trainers call it “proprioception.” Proprioception is how an individual perceives the relationship of the various parts of his or her body to time and space. It is a mind-body issue. Your proprioception is what allows your brain to coordinate everything, including your muscles and ligaments, so you can function smoothly. But proprioception requires instantaneous reactions, and it can be off, especially when a body faces new challenges and stresses, as an athlete’s generally does.

    Proprioception is the reason, according to Dr. Brian Cole, why ACL tears almost never occur when an athlete is practicing by himself or is on the court or field in isolation, but almost always while reacting to an opposing player. (Even Reggie Wayne’s cut was anticipatory.) Proprioception requires a player to predict where his body should be in relation to that opponent. When a basketball or football player fails to accurately predict his position in space, when the brain doesn’t send an accurate signal to the joints, the knee is likely to be in a compromised position and the ACL cannot adjust. And as athletes have gotten bigger, faster, and stronger, and as the games have required more deception, proprioception has had to become much more sophisticated. So it’s not just the ligament that fails — it’s our whole personal navigation system. In a sense, we are victims of ourselves, which makes ACL tears not only a physical challenge but also a metaphysical one.

    The Future

    Kaya Turski doesn’t much resemble Adrian Peterson or DeJuan Blair. She is a sprite, only 5-foot-5 and slight of stature — things that help her fly through the air, which is what she does. Turski happens to be the five-time world slopestyle skiing champion. She is the woman at the very apex of her sport, which will be included next February in the Olympics for the first time. And if she is a revolutionary in her sport, she is also a revolutionary in ACL surgery.

    By now, you’ve probably guessed that Kaya has suffered an ACL tear. Actually, she has suffered a few. She got the first after she was recovering from a pancreatic injury in 2007. Just 14 days after she got back on her skis, she was training in New Zealand when she attempted a 50-foot jump, landed, and felt her right knee give. “It’s crazy how loud that pop is,” she remembers. And she knew immediately that her ACL was gone. As it turned out, her MCL and LCL were, as well. But she had a hamstring graft, went through a grueling rehab, and returned to the slopes nine months later. Kaya Turski The second came in April 2010 when she was making her third run in a competition she had already won and was attempting a new trick — a two-and-a-half forward rotation. As soon as she landed, she knew her left knee had gone. But once again she came back, and she felt stronger than ever. Then came the third, just last August while she was training in Oregon and lost her bearings in the air during yet another trick. She was just six months out from the Olympics, where she would have been a favorite to medal.

    If she’d had normal reconstructive surgery, there would have been no hope of her returning in time for Sochi. She considered competing without her ACL. But instead she did research and came up with an idea: She proposed getting a synthetic graft. Synthetic grafts had been pretty much discredited, in part because while they might work in the short run, they invariably fail in the long run. Still, she knew it was her only chance, and Dr. Litchfield, recommended to her by a fellow skier, reluctantly agreed — because Turski told him the Olympics were likely to be her swan song, and it didn’t matter to her if the graft held afterward. But he agreed with a proviso. He would wrap the synthetic ligament in an allograft, a ligament from a cadaver, so that Turski would have a chance of avoiding a revision surgery after she retired. It is, to her knowledge, the first time this has ever been done.

    The fate of her allograft remains to be seen, but Turski is, in her way, even more phenomenal than Adrian Peterson, who at least had eight months of rehab. She doesn’t have that luxury. She just has those six months — which would be a record for recovery. She says everything is moving in “fast forward.” Just three months out from the tear, she is already jumping and expects to be on the snow early this month. The key, she says, is that she couldn’t afford to give in to the gremlin. She had to resist it. But she has conquered it — three times — and now she and her ACL have declared an Olympic truce. As Turski puts it, “As long as the knee cooperates, I feel good about my chances.”

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    Darrell Williams
    School: South Florida
    Position: T
    Bio: Two-year starter at left tackle.
    Positive: Tall, athletic tackle prospect with a good amount of upside potential. Quick off the snap, patient in pass protection and effective on the second level. Sets with a wide base, works to bend his knees and effectively fights with his hands. Adjusts to oncoming linebackers and does a nice job picking up the blitz.
    Negative: Inconsistent in his all-around game. Must improve his run blocking. Struggles to finish blocks and falls off defenders.
    Analysis: After breaking into the starting lineup as a junior, Williams has shown consistent progress and is a developmental prospect with practice squad potential.

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    South Florida OT Darrell Williams
    Williams started 29 straight games at left tackle for the Bulls, and is getting a look at the Bucs’ local workout at One Buccaneer Place on Friday. Williams also has the quick feet necessary to play inside at guard and could be an undrafted free agent or a rookie mini-camp invite

    Not much on Daryl.

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    05/05/2015 – A closer look at the Rams’ nine picks: Round 7/227 – Martin Ifedi, DE, 6-3, 275, Memphis…Ended his college career as the school’s all-time leader with 22.5 sacks and also compiled 36 tackles for loss. That sacks total ranked sixth among active NCAA FBS players. A sprained MCL cost him four games at the beginning of the 2014 season, but still had 9.5 sacks in nine games played. Rams defensive line coach Mike Waufle is said to be high on him and likes his upside. – The Sports Xchange

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Solidly-built frame and has worked hard to add weight and fill out. Good upper body strength with the length (33-inch arms) and wingspan to toss blockers and corral ballcarriers. Strong hands to finish once he makes contact, breaking down well in space to close and attack. Impressive recognition skills and ball awareness, using his eyes to locate, track and pursue. Disciplined run defender on the edges to take away the corner and contain, forcing the action back inside and allowing his teammates to make the stop. Plays with fight and works hard to stay square, not taking himself out of plays. Good play speed with a locked in motor, rallying to the football. Tough worker with mature football character and a likeable personality. Versatile experience lining up inside and outside at several defensive line positions. School’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5) as a three-year starter (31 career starts).

    WEAKNESSES: Near maxed out body type with some tweener traits. Plays tall off the snap and gives blockers a big target to block, leading to balance issues. Lacks the speed or flexibility to consistently bend and threaten the edge. Has some herky-jerky movements with below average redirection skills. Overly patient at times and seems to be thinking too much, leading to hand fighting at the point of attack. Too easy for blockers to win angles and seal him. Needs to better drive through his hips and show improved leverage shedding and tackling. Durability a question mark after a left knee injury in Sept. 2014, which caused him to miss four games and kept him from being 100-percent healthy the rest of the season.

    –Dane Brugler
    Player Overview
    One of the most versatile front four prospects in the 2015 draft, Ifedi moved all over the defensive line in college, playing the bulk of his snaps at the three- and five-technique positions. He leaves Memphis as the school’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5), but he isn’t overly dynamic and there isn’t much that separates him from others athletically. Ifedi, who is the older brother of Texas A&M OT Germain Ifedi, displays very good run recognition to make quick reads and put himself in position to make plays, using his upper body strength and eyes to be effective. His medical report and knee status are imperative to his NFL draft grade, projecting best as a left defensive end in a four-man front or as a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme.

    A two-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Ifedi has a basketball background, but started to focus on football and received moderate interest as a recruit, receiving only a few FBS offers and committing to Memphis. After redshirting in 2010 and serving as a back-up defensive tackle in 2011, Ifedi moved to the edges as a sophomore in 2012 and led the team in both tackles for loss (11.0) and sacks (7.5). He had his best statistical season in 2013 as a junior with 14.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks, earning First Team All-AAC honors. Ifedi was plagued by a knee injury in 2014 and started just nine games, but still finished second on the team in tackles for loss (9.5), adding 2.5 sacks and earning First Team All-AAC honors.

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    ACL Tear Won’t Keep Most College Athletes From Returning to Play: Study
    Recovery actually seems better for college-age players vs. younger peers, researchers say

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    ACL Tear Won’t Keep Most College Athletes From Returning to Play: Study
    FRIDAY, Sept. 26, 2014 (HealthDay News) — It’s a debilitating injury, but an ACL tear typically doesn’t mean the end of a college athlete’s career, a new study finds.

    The research suggests that the risk for a reinjury of the knee’s anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) actually goes down as athletes mature from high school into their college years.

    Researchers at the University of North Carolina report that most of the college players in the study returned to their sport after surgery to repair an ACL tear.

    However, college athletes who had suffered an ACL injury in their pre-college years were much more likely to suffer recurrent ACL trouble, compared to those who had their first such injury in college.

    The study included 89 male and female UNC athletes who’d undergone an ACL surgery, either prior to entering college or while they were collegiate athletes. Fifty-four of the patients had surgery during college, while 39 had the surgery before college.

    Both groups had nearly identical return-to-play rates — the pre-college group used 78 percent of their total playing eligibility after injury, while the college group used 77 percent.

    However, there were significant differences in their rates for ACL reinjury and reoperation.

    The pre-college group had about a 17 percent injury rate with their original ACL surgery, and they also had a 20 percent chance of suffering an ACL injury in the other knee, the study found.

    In comparison, the rate for the college athletes was about 2 percent and 11 percent, respectively.

    The reoperation rate was about 51 percent for the pre-college group and 20 percent for the college group, according to the study published Sept. 24 in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

    “It’s very clear from our data that the younger the elite athlete, the higher risk for reinjury,” lead author Dr. Ganesh Kamath, assistant professor of orthopedics at UNC’s School of Medicine, said in a university news release.

    “It’s clear that these kids are going to get back to playing sports at a higher level, but there is something in their makeup that puts them at high risk for tearing the ACL in the same or the other knee again. Once the athlete, though, gets past adolescence, this risk seems to go way down,” Kamath said.

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