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    Meet Dr. Erin Shannon, the holistic practitioner several Rams and other athletes swear by

    By Elisabeth Meinecke

    http://www.foxsports.com/midwest/story/meet-dr-erin-shannon-the-holistic-practitioner-several-rams-and-other-athletes-swear-by-061615

    ST. LOUIS — In 2011, Joe Buck was having the worst year of his broadcast career.

    Early on, he’d visited vocal expert Dr. Steven Zeitels for help with a vocal cord that had been paralyzed from nerve damage. If anyone could fix the problem, it was Zeitels, whose Rolodex of clients, from Adele to Steven Tyler, read like a Grammy awards list. But his prognosis on Buck was bleak: While there were outlier cases, the rule of thumb was if his voice didn’t return to normal in three months, it likely wasn’t going to — ever.

    It’s over, the FOX Sports broadcaster thought when he heard the news. Not being able to talk at full volume, in his profession, was crippling. He felt embarrassed and grew reclusive. He didn’t want to talk on the phone. He didn’t want to be social.

    That October, however, during the National League Championship Series, Buck ran into childhood friend Dr. Erin Shannon. The two were almost like siblings — they’d grown up in the back of the Cardinals’ radio booth together, he the son of legendary Cardinals voice Jack Buck, she the daughter of the elder Buck’s broadcast partner, Mike Shannon. Now a practicing psychologist, Erin had recently incorporated a form of holistic treatment known as energy medicine into her work with professional athletes and had experienced success helping them rehab from physical ailments.

    “I can help you,” she told Buck. “I can fix you.”

    Buck, at that point, was willing to try anything. They began a series of noninvasive treatments, and as the major league postseason progressed, so did Buck’s rehabilitation — so much so that by the time David Freese hit one of the most electrifying home runs in World Series history, his call was memorable enough to help capture an Emmy for outstanding play-by-play that season.

    “(It) was ironic and weird that I won it for that year because the year wasn’t good,” Buck admits. “But the postseason was really good, and that’s specifically when I worked with Erin.”

    He continued sessions with her through the NFL season and visited Zeitels again in early 2012. The doctor took a first look, then a second at the previously paralyzed vocal cord. He was blown away.

    “It’s moving,” Buck says Zeitels told him. “It’s fine.”

    Buck admits there are still some days even now, three years later, when he’ll struggle with his voice, but that there are other days when he feels it’s even better than before the problem arose. Overall, he feels close enough to 100 percent on a daily basis that he thinks no one would ever notice he had an issue.

    “I’m forever indebted to (Erin) for all of it,” he says.

    ***

    Dr. Erin Shannon is a holistic practitioner with more than 22 degrees and certifications in both Eastern and Western medicine, and her ability to help athletes — and yes, at least one prominent broadcaster — recover from injury, or improve the mental side of their game, has drawn players from around the world to seek her help. Some of the toughest guys in the NFL walk through the doors of her St. Louis office, and she’s also treated MLB, NHL, MLS and NBA players, and even MMA fighters.

    One of her biggest advocates is husband and St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who has witnessed her success helping athletes heal from injury quicker than their estimated recovery time. Some of her biggest fans are the clients who’ve felt the results, such as Buck.

    “She’s got a great diagnostic ability to figure out what’s wrong with somebody,” Buck says. “And, I think, maybe as importantly — or even more importantly — how to fix it.”

    The field of energy medicine itself is based on an understanding of the body that’s rarely encountered in traditional Western medicine.

    “It is literally the electric energy that runs through our body, just like blood runs through our body,” Shannon explains.

    It hinges on the belief in a strong mind-body connection, a common theme in Eastern medicine, and its noninvasive approach, Shannon says, complements Western medicine’s work. She’s well versed in both schools of thought, but it’s the former that has proved game-changing in her work with professional athletes.

    One energy medicine service particularly useful to athletes is the ability to maintain strength in their muscles post-surgery, even when they cannot work out. Using visual imagery and energy techniques, an athlete can prevent atrophy and shorten his or her recovery period by as much as 50 percent. So, if they’ve had surgery, say, on their right leg, they can walk into the training room however many weeks later without atrophy in the limb.

    “We will cut recovery times in half,” Shannon says. “And recovery is 100 percent, meaning we don’t have weakness in that leg.”

    According to Shannon, the process involves releasing the memory of the trauma from the muscle tissue and the fascia.

    “I’m about as much science as I can be with it, and I’m about helping people.”

    “The body remembers the trauma,” she explains. “The mind might be sleeping from the anesthesia, but those muscles feel you cutting.”

    The technique can even help target a nagging health concern that hasn’t required surgery. Shannon once treated a client who’d been cut from a professional team due to a recurring hamstring problem. He’s since played professionally for four seasons (and counting).

    Because her approach to an athlete’s health, however, is holistic, Shannon’s treatments generally provide both mental and physical benefits. Rams defensive end William Hayes initially came to her because of tightness issues and lower back pain, but says the sessions make him feel better mentally, too.

    “I went to work a lot of times saying, ‘I’m tired today, I’m not going to have a good day,'” he says. “She put in my mind to always say positive thoughts, and when you say positive thoughts, your body actually reacts to it. And I find that to be very true.”

    In fact, the common refrain among Shannon’s clients is her help with the mental side of their sport, which they believe many athletes ignore, to their detriment.

    “I think so often guys get so caught up in, ‘Oh, I need to lift weights, I need to take care of my playbook, I need to take care of running,'” says Rams defensive end Chris Long, another Shannon client. “Football is such a mental game. It’s such an emotional game as well, and I think a lot of what she does can cross over into that.”

    Linebacker James Laurinaitis agrees. He heard about Shannon’s work through some of his teammates and became a client of hers last year. He’s been most drawn to the mental aspect of her techniques, or “mental coaching,” as he calls it, and says he noticed a difference even in training camp.

    “I think as an athlete you always have self-doubt in certain areas,” he says, “so having that mental ability to kind of flip your thought process and try to really tell your mind that maybe things aren’t as difficult as you think they are, and don’t be afraid of certain things — I really found myself throughout the year, and really throughout training camp, just kind of using the techniques that she’s taught about really positive self-talk and really getting rid of all the negative kind of baggage that can weigh you down throughout a game.”

    Shannon’s husband, meanwhile, sees how guys who earn their pay exuding strength and fearlessness can gain an advantage from having an outlet to purge vulnerabilities.

    “Sometimes it’s hard for a guy like that to let the door down and be honest with a coach. Talk about a weakness. Maybe get tears in his eyes,” Williams says. “The fact that she, from a psychological aspect, has been tremendous with these guys on being able to get them through some tough times in their life, some tough days in their life, some tough situations in their life, things they’re going through, has been monumental.”

    In addition to the emotional and physical aspects of her practice, Shannon also aids athletes in developing a skill that all superstars in sports have: Instinct.

    People often say an athlete is “in the zone” when the player is at peak performance. At that moment, the athlete’s focus, control and ability to anticipate opponents seem almost inexplicable, and thus a cliche phrase covers what observers can’t explain. Often, the athlete can’t articulate it, either.

    Shannon can.

    “It’s that moment of optimal awareness where time slows down, crowd noise goes away, and you feel your senses heightened,” she explains. “You can feel like you can sense what everybody’s movements are going to be. You can sense the trajectory of the ball. You can feel the wind.”

    Just like continuous reps help build a certain muscle group or skill, Shannon’s techniques can strengthen an athlete’s ability to get back to that heightened sensory state, enabling him or her to perform at peak level, again and again.

    “The greatest athletes know how to get there, and they can get there all the time,” she says.

    If it all still sounds hard to quantify, that’s because it is. Even Shannon’s athlete patients have a hard time articulating what she does.

    “You should go in and see Doc Shannon,” they’ll tell one of their buddies.

    “Why, what does she do?”

    “Just go in and see it, because I can’t even explain it to you.”

    ***

    Originally, Shannon was supposed to be the athlete, not the doctor.

    She grew up in St. Louis, the youngest child of Mike and Judy Shannon. Her father’s ability to beat a life-threatening kidney disease at age 30 while playing for the Cardinals helped teach his children that determination could conquer anything. Her mother was the kind of person who always made those around her feel better — “St. Judy,” people called her.

    Their youngest daughter, meanwhile, planned to be an Olympic runner, but an injury in high school cost her a college scholarship, her Olympic dreams and, she admits, her identity. With no idea what she wanted to do, the self-described jock enrolled at Loyola Marymount University and became an English major. She took one psychology course, found it ridiculously easy, and was shocked when she saw other kids taking notes in class. To her, the information was almost intuitive — so intuitive that psychology courses became her version of an easy A.

    Erin Shannon is the daughter of Mike Shannon, a former Cardinals player and the club’s longtime radio voice.

    Eventually, one of her professors, the granddaughter of a famous psychologist, began touting Shannon as a psychology prodigy, which, despite the A’s, stunned her as much as anyone. Shannon ended up switching her major and, per her usual habit of going all-in whenever she decided on something, took so many credits that she was able to graduate in around two years. In masters and graduate programs at Pepperdine, the pattern of ease continued; she tested out of classes containing material she’d never studied before.

    Meanwhile, she learned to survive an adventuresome psychology internship in the Los Angeles public school system, which was rife with gang wars. Kids who looked at the young, slender graduate student and thought they had the advantage soon learned otherwise — even the ones who smuggled guns past the school’s security scanners. Raised in the adrenaline-saturated environments of locker rooms and clubhouses, Shannon refused to be intimidated.

    She married a St. Louis businessman and, after graduating from Pepperdine, moved back to the city and soon landed a post-doctorate fellowship at Washington University in the psychiatry and genetics departments. She was the school’s first-ever dual fellow in those departments, but upon having her first child she resigned to become a stay-at-home mom.

    When her family’s financial circumstances changed several years later, she found herself having to go to work — for the first time — in private practice. At the time, Shannon had no idea what a psychologist earned, or any idea how to set up a business. She gritted her teeth and went about it anyway. She took out a $600 ad in the Ladue News once — even that was more than she could afford — and hoped for the best. She still doesn’t know how, but people started coming.

    She became interested in Eastern medicine after it eased her mother’s pain during the last days of her battle with brain cancer. Driven by the memory, and angered that, despite all her medical training, this was the first time she’d been exposed to techniques that may have helped her mother earlier in her illness, Shannon began reading about various forms of energy medicine. Once she started, she kept going, which is how she ended up with 22-plus degrees or certifications combined between her Eastern and Western training.

    “You need to stop getting all the degrees,” Shannon says her brother finally told her. “We take you seriously. Stop. You know enough.”

    “If I have an addiction, it’s learning, researching, studying,” she says. “And I’ll always do that. I’ll always have to stay up an extra hour and read the newest research article. I’ll always have to learn the newest, best, extra-special thing for my patients, because I feel like I need to know and they deserve the next newest thing, and science will always give us something new.”

    After four years of intense research and training in energy medicine, she took on her first sports client in 2011, an older pitcher who’d been having trouble with his arm. She helped fix the problem, and by the end of the following week, her practice was flooded with athletes. Trying to raise six kids, and soon to be divorced, she’d stumbled on a surprising gap in sports medicine. Big-time agents started sending clients. She even had international patients. She found herself sleeping in her office like a gypsy, trying to keep up with the demand.

    She made it work. Shannon now balances a full-time practice and parenting responsibilities, and has found new support along the way. On Sept. 28, 2012, she was on her way to a Rams-Seahawks game when she met Gregg Williams. Two years later, they were married.

    Still, she remains driven by the memory of her mother’s illness — had she known about these techniques earlier, she wonders, would things be different? Could she have saved her mother? Haunted by the thought, Shannon found a measure of personal healing through determination: She would let no one else suffer as her mother had.

    ***

    As an NFL defensive coordinator, Williams is not interested in fluff science — he’s interested in results. And the results he’s seen from his wife’s work with athletes are impressive. In fact, he admits he’s somewhat awestruck by it.

    “It’s amazing on how she’s been able to get some of these guys to bounce back faster from an injury because of some of her methods of energy medicine and holistic medicine that has got guys healthy quicker,” he says. “Obviously, whenever a guy sees that, he’s all in because it’s about availability, it’s about production, it’s about performance, and they have to be on the field to do that. And she’s been able to help that and extend careers and quicken up rehab.”

    Rams defensive coordinator Gregg Williams has seen firsthand what his wife’s methods can do to speed his players’ recovery times.

    He believes her work is a “missing ingredient” in the NFL, although he’s had players as far back as the early ’90s who’ve used some of the techniques.

    “There are a few teams in the league from a psychological aspect that are doing this, and they are doing it and it’s been producing results,” he says. “I do know there are players in every different city that’s out there that understand (energy medicine) and they have been doing this on their own.”

    In fact, Shannon — who is currently writing The Warrior Whisperer, a book due out this Christmas, about her practice — emphasizes the history of these techniques while discussing people’s concerns about any religious implications of her practice. She says the ancient Chinese used these methods, and that they’ve been practiced across a variety of religions. She tries to keep her approach as scientific as possible, her main focus being results for the athletes who come to her for help.

    “I’m about as much science as I can be with it, and I’m about helping people,” she says. “I’m about anything and everything that I can use to help people. And if it works, then I use it. And this works.”[

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    jones is a favorite of mine. i think if he’s healthy he should be the starting center. that’s a huge if though.

    More thoughts on this.

    Wagoner:

    1) Rotating centers

    The Rams have been cycling through three players at center along the offensive line at OTAs: Barrett Jones, Tim Barnes, and Demetreus Rhaney. Fisher said on Tuesday that the team will be patient in making the decision for who will start.

    “They’re all getting opportunities to work with Nick, so he’s familiar, not only with the exchanges, but also the communication,” Fisher said. “We’ll make that decision when somebody shows us he’s earned the job.”

    This reminds me of the 99 off-season competition at MLB.

    They may or may not have a favorite at this point, but they watch film of practices, not just of pre-season games.

    Plus of course, they are probably wary of injuries so in a sense all 3 have to be ready. I mean, last year they had 4 injured centers. So I imagine they are wary of that snake biting again.

    As Fisher says, since it’s a competition, Foles at this point has to know all of them. They don’t know who they will end up with.

    Fisher makes all big decisions patiently. 3 weeks into training camp things could be much clearer than they are now.

    Incidentally, they also have to find out if David Wang has anything, though he is obviously relegated to the low rung—a 3rd if he makes it, or the practice squad. DW has interesting write-ups.

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    5 Takeaways from the Week’s OTAs

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/5-Takeaways-from-the-Weeks-OTAs/2021fb61-e7f1-4a49-b56b-b330b39841f6

    Between a charity softball game, a community field build project, and three organized team activity sessions, the Rams have had a busy week. But here are five takeaways from head coach Jeff Fisher’s media availability from the second set of OTA sessions.

    1) Rotating centers

    The Rams have been cycling through three players at center along the offensive line at OTAs: Barrett Jones, Tim Barnes, and Demetreus Rhaney. Fisher said on Tuesday that the team will be patient in making the decision for who will start.

    “They’re all getting opportunities to work with Nick, so he’s familiar, not only with the exchanges, but also the communication,” Fisher said. “We’ll make that decision when somebody shows us he’s earned the job.”

    It’s important for whoever fills the role to not only master the physical, but also the mental tasks associated with the center position.

    “There’s no indications at this point that there’s going to be limitations from the mental standpoint with the guys that are competing,” Fisher said. “They all understand.”

    2) A trimmed down Fairley

    Nick Fairley looked as svelte as ever when he signed with the Rams back in March. And while he’s dealt with overweight issues in the past, Fisher said he was actually concerned about the defensive tackle being underweight.

    “Nick’s changed his lifestyle, changed his diet,” Fisher said. “We’re trying to get some weight back on him right now and he’s done it. He’s worked hard the last couple of weeks. He’s doing fine. His conditioning level is fine. If he’s going to compete with our guys up front, he’s going to have to run and he knows that.”

    3) Robinson’s looking svelte, too

    While Greg Robinson will never be confused for anything other than a massive man, it’s clear from standing near him that he looks slimmer this summer. He said last week that he’s down to 319 pounds from his high of 339.

    “He’s been working here,” Fisher said. “He’s been rehabbing and he’s working and he feels good. His strength has increased. If there’s a little bit of weight loss and increase of strength, that’s a good thing.”

    4) McLeod’s progression

    Safety Rodney McLeod has evolved into a solid player in the St. Louis secondary. He’s started all 16 games the past two seasons, and Fisher said that McLeod is someone who takes a step forward each year.

    “He gets the game,” Fisher said. “I thought he played really well last year. He misjudged a couple deep balls, but everybody does that. But I thought he was really active, knew what to do, and run-supported very well.”

    5) Two generations of Hager

    As the Eagles’ defensive coordinator in the late 1980s, Fisher was part of the coaching staff that drafted Britt Hager. Now, he’s coaching Britt’s son, Bryce. The Rams selected the linebacker in the 7th round of this year’s draft.

    “It’s interesting because I got to the combine and I wasn’t interested in everybody there,” Fisher said. “I saw the name of the linebacker [and thought,] ‘I wonder if this is Britt’s kid.’ As it turns out it was. It’s a great story behind how Britt was drafted in Philly. He played a long time. There are similarities. Bryce looks a lot like his dad.”

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    Rams’ Saffold working his way back from surgery

    By Nate Latsch

    http://www.scout.com/nfl/rams/story/1553537-rams-saffold-working-his-way-back-from-surgery?hootPostID=4512202478514696ffe74b579bdad068

    ST. LOUIS — Rodger Saffold is still limited during OTAs while recovering from surgery on his shoulder this offseason, but that hasn’t stopped the Rams’ offensive lineman from trying to set the tone during drills.

    “We’ve got the young guys in there, so they need to know how to practice,” Saffold said last week after the Rams’ second OTA session. “If they’re going to give me the go, then I’m going to give it everything.”

    Saffold, who turned 27 last week, has surgery to repair a torn labrum following the season. He said he hasn’t had much pain or problems during his recovery period and that being patient with it has been the hardest thing.

    While the 6-foot-5, 332-pounder was allowed to do some individual work last week, he said he didn’t expect to be cleared to do team work during OTAs.

    Saffold said he was surprised that the doctors didn’t find anything more wrong with his shoulder than the torn labrum. He was also relieved to have had the surgery after playing through pain in the past.

    “That I was able to just tough it out and play all 16 games was big for me,” he said. “Which kind of just let me know that doing this thing isn’t the end of the world, so now I can come back and really play. It’s a crazy game. Things just pop up out of nowhere, but right now I’m very, very confident.”

    Saffold, who is expected to start at either left or right guard, is now the old man along the Rams’ new-look offensive line going into his sixth NFL season.

    Gone are Jake Long, Scott Wells, Joe Barksdale and Davin Joseph — the four players who started on the line with Saffold at the beginning of the 2014 season. In their place are a mix that includes second-year left tackle Greg Robinson, free agent signee Garrett Reynolds, centers Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones and Demetrius Rhaney and rookie draft picks Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown and Andrew Donnal.

    Now Saffold, a second-round pick in 2010, has additional leadership responsibilities in the offensive line room.

    “I’m doing my best with that,” he said. “It’s kind of hard because you’re not in practice, but just staying engaged with the guys as far as getting mental reps because a lot of these young guys aren’t going to get a lot of reps. The o-line room was pretty much vacant most of the year, beginning of this year, and now there’s like nowhere to sit. You have to be able to help these guys out. Right now I’m kind of like a coach, I’m just reading the scripts and helping out where I can.”

    The offensive line room has gotten significantly younger in the past few months. Now the old guy, it’s a little bit strange for Saffold.

    “Yeah, it is,” he said. “It’s kind of different. Especially just with this team, being the longest with this team. Being able to help everybody. Even with Garrett (Reynolds), trying to help him out. Who is a solid addition to this team. It’s a big role but I like those things. I like changes, because that way it keeps you more engaged, things start getting a little less boring.”

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    Quick Progressing with Shoulder Rehab

    Myles Simmons

    http://www.stlouisrams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Quick-Progressing-with-Shoulder-Rehab/00539de0-65ed-43e1-a9a2-18b36d03184d

    Wide receiver Brian Quick has been working diligently to get back to full strength after suffering a season-ending shoulder injury last Oct. 26 against the Chiefs. While the wideout is still limited in what he can do on the field, head coach Jeff Fisher said on Thursday that Quick is coming along well.

    “We’ll have to watch him, keep him out of contact, but he’s running routes against air,” Fisher said. “He’s catching and progressing nicely.”

    It’s been a long process to rehab an injury so extensive that it surprised the wide receiver.

    “That’s what really kind of got me,” Quick said. “It was pretty bad.”

    But he said his mindset has been in the right place to physically recover.

    “Anybody can give up and think it’s over,” he said. “I thought the opposite.”

    On Thursday, he gave plenty of credit to the Rams’ head athletic trainer Reggie Scott and assistant athletic trainer Byron Cunningham for their assistance in the process.

    “Byron working with me this offseason — we came together and worked really hard,” Quick said. “When I say ‘we,’ he put a lot into it. And I definitely came in and put in the work as well.”

    The wide receiver said he felt he turned a corner about two months ago, while working through some drills with Cunningham.

    “They saw I was coming along a little bit further than expected, so we just went from there,” Quick said.

    Now at OTAs, the wide receiver has been able to participate in some positional drills, but he’s not been cleared to do much else quite yet.

    “It’s always hard, coming out here seeing these guys work, and you have to sit down and watch them,” Quick said. “You want to be out there so badly, but you have to just be patient. It’ll come.”

    The wideout has to be smart with how he maneuvers his shoulder at this point, a task made easier by the trust he’s gained from the training staff. Quick said that he’s gotten hold of how his body will react to different movements he makes on the field, and how he catches balls.

    So while there is still no set schedule for Quick’s full return, he said that once it happens, he’ll be primed to make an impact.

    “I know that when it’s time, I’m going to be ready,” Quick said.

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    Todd Gurley finding ways to participate in Rams OTAs

    By Nick Wagoner

    ESPN.com

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13019961/todd-gurley-st-louis-rams-progressing-rehab-acl-tear

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Although St. Louis Rams running back Todd Gurley isn’t technically participating in organized team activities this week, he is doing everything he can to get a reasonable approximation.

    Gurley is still rehabilitating from the torn left ACL he suffered in November. For now, Gurley is mostly limited to hanging out on the sideline with the athletic trainers. But he is not just standing around with nothing to do.

    Near the start of the team’s Thursday practice, Gurley worked with athletic trainer Byron Cunningham on the side. As his teammates went through individual drills, Gurley did some high leg kicks and running. He was mostly limited to linear work that doesn’t require him to move much laterally, but he was able to do a few agility drills that required change of direction.

    Gurley also stayed on the field after practice was over, running a few routes for rookie quarterback Sean Mannion. Gurley worked at about half speed and wasn’t cutting like he would in a game, but he did get some extra repetitions.

    Coach Jeff Fisher said Gurley, the No. 10 overall pick in this year’s draft, is progressing well. The Rams have put no timetable on when Gurley will return to practice or games, but Fisher has indicated a willingness to be as patient as necessary.

    “Todd’s doing a great job with his rehab,” Fisher said. “He’s very anxious. He’s probably a little frustrated, probably deep down inside not really happy right now, but he’s anxious to get out there right now, so that’s going well.”

    During Friday’s OTAs, the Rams appeared to dial it back with Gurley. Near the end of the session, Gurley did get some one-on-one time with running backs coach Ben Sirmans.

    Sirmans walked Gurley through some runs, and Gurley ran at about half speed, mixing in a couple of small cutbacks.

    “I feel good. I just can’t play football right now,” Gurley said. “I’m running around and doing agility stuff. It’s just day by day.”

    When not doing work on the side, Gurley said he is doing his best to stay attuned to what’s happening on the field. When the Rams switched from individual drills to team sessions, Gurley stopped his sideline work and joined his teammates in the huddle, standing close enough to hear the plays and run through them in his mind.

    “[It’s good] just being able to get my rehab during practice when they are doing individual, then when team comes, I get those mental reps,” Gurley said.

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    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-report/updated-heart-condition-ends-sasser-s-time-with-rams/article_0fa3ad7e-769e-59b0-aa99-35b2ec756554.html
    Heart condition ends Sasser’s time with Rams
    1 hour ago • By Jim Thomas

    At least as far as the Rams are concerned, wide receiver Bud Sasser’s NFL career is over before it started because of a heart condition.

    Rams coach Jeff Fisher confirmed after Thursday’s OTA practice what has been rumored for several weeks, namely that Sasser could not pass his physical because of the heart condition — known as hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, or HCM.

    In layman’s terms, it’s a thickening of the heart muscle that can make it more difficult to pump blood.

    “We did some extensive studies after the draft,” Fisher said. “And it was determined and concluded by numerous physicians that he had a pre-existing condition that we don’t feel will allow him to play.”

    The Rams placed Sasser on the non-football illness list, and then placed him on waived/non-football inury on Thursday. The Rams did pay the former University of Missouri star his signing bonus of $113,000. It’s possible he could be claimed by another team, but his time with the Rams is over.

    Sasser was not at Rams Park on Thursday, but told the Post-Dispatch via phone: “I’m all right. It’ll work out. I’m not down. You can put that out there.”

    Sasser stopped just short himself of confirming the heart condition, saying, “it’s not 100 percent true,” and adding, “we’re going to figure it out.”

    Those later comments by Sasser no doubt are related to encouraging medical reports he received from a cardiologist in Dallas as well as specialists from the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota.

    “The Mayo Clinic doctor did say Bud was such a low risk, he should be able to play,” said Scott Thiel, Sasser’s agent. “The doctors at the Mayo Clinic said they had several patients that came in with that exact case that are currently playing in the NFL.”

    Thiel said the Dallas cardiologist also provided a letter in which he states Sasser should be able to play.

    “He said it’s not an issue,” Thiel said, speaking of the Dallas cardiologist. “He said Bud’s stress test, and different tests like that were in the 99th percentile — that he has an extremely healthy heart.”

    But the Rams obviously didn’t want to take the risk, which is something Sasser and Thiel totally understood.

    “The Rams have been great, I want to make sure that’s known,” Thiel said. “They’ve been nothing but class. But at the end of the day, any risk for them was too much risk.”

    According to Thiel, Sasser’s condition is genetic. He’s had it from birth. To his knowledge the heart issue either didn’t show up in tests at Mizzou, or wasn’t deemed a problem.

    Privacy laws prevent the university from commenting on Sasser’s medical history, but Mizzou athletics spokesman Chad Moller said the Tigers wouldn’t clear a player to play if it suspected he had a serious health issue.

    Following his Mizzou career, Sasser didn’t get invited to the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, so he didn’t undergo the exhaustive battery of medical tests that take place there in February.

    In addition, Sasser didn’t work out or pay a predraft visit to the Rams, so the team didn’t have much medical information on him prior to the draft.

    “Typically what you do is you contact the university, which we did,” Fisher said. “And this was just one of those things that kind of slipped through the cracks.”

    During the predraft process, Sasser paid visits to Green Bay, Houston, Kansas City and Oakland. (Reports that he also visited Denver were erroneous.) There were rumors that some teams backed off Sasser in the draft because of the heart issue. But if that was the case, Thiel said he was unaware of it — no team alerted him about any health concerns.

    There’s no doubt the Rams wanted to make it work with Sasser. There was no guarantee he’d make the final roster on a depth chart that returned the top five wide receivers from 2014. But the Rams liked his size (6-3, 219), strong hands, catch radius and ability to come down with the contested throw.

    Despite a breakout 2014 season, which saw Sasser finish among the Southeastern Conference leaders in both catches (77) and yards (1,003), plus score 12 touchdowns, it was surprising that he didn’t get a Combine invite. In addition, he was not invited to any of the postseason all-star games, such as the Senior Bowl.

    It all added to the chip on Sasser’s shoulder and the determination to make it in the NFL. When he finally got the call May 2 in the sixth round at No. 201 overall, Sasser could hardly contain his enthusiasm.

    “Oh my gosh, if this isn’t the greatest feeling I’ve ever felt in my life, then I don’t know what would be,” Sasser said that day on a conference call with reporters.

    It was hoped that he could provide some of the “sixth-round magic” that former Mizzou teammate E.J. Gaines provided as a rookie sixth-rounder a year ago — having an immediate impact at cornerback.

    But then came the results of his Rams physical, follow-up results and then Thursday’s release. Sasser never took part in a Rams practice.

    “You definitely have to feel for the guy,” veteran Rams wideout Kenny Britt said. “Especially when you’re this close to making your dreams come true.

    “He worked so hard from grammar school, to high school and to college. You know that you get this next step and your dreams come true. Something like that is kind of sad. My heart and prayers go out to him.”

    (Dave Matter of the Post-Dispatch staff contributed to this story.)

    That sounds like he is OK. imo

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    Foles getting acquainted with new team, new offense

    By R.B. FALLSTROM (AP Sports Writer)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/foles-getting-acquainted-team-offense-222552308–nfl.html

    ST. LOUIS (AP) — Quarterback Nick Foles is getting to know his new St. Louis Rams teammates.

    ”We love him,” wide receiver Kenny Britt said Thursday after the second OTA session and first open to reporters. ”Great deep ball, he puts it on the money every time.

    ”He can throw every pass in the book.”

    Coach Jeff Fisher said Foles had a good grasp of the offense, which is important right now since he’s going against a front that was much improved last season.

    Foles was 14-5 as a starter in Philadelphia and is recovered from a broken collarbone that sidelined him the last eight games of 2014.

    ”He’s got his hands full because we’ve got great defensive team speed and they’re doing a lot of things over there right now,” Fisher said. ”We’ve just really been pleased.”

    There have been a multitude of changes on offense.

    Frank Cignetti was promoted from quarterbacks coach to coordinator. A number of young offensive linemen could be pressed into action right away. Veteran guard Rodger Saffold is rounding into form after offseason shoulder surgery.

    ”It’s a different offense, different terminology,” Foles said. ”But that’s the fun of it. I get to learn more football.”

    It’ll be awhile before Foles works with the entire group. First-round pick Todd Gurley is rehabbing from left knee surgery and is getting limited work on the side, but might not be ready for the start of the season.

    Fisher said the former Georgia star running back was ”very anxious and probably a little frustrated, probably deep down inside not very happy right now.”

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    ”You know how it is sitting out for a long time,” Gurley said, ”but I’ve got to be patient. I feel good but I can’t play right now.”

    Foles hasn’t forgotten the surprise of getting dealt for Sam Bradford in the offseason.

    ”I did not expect the trade and that’s the truth,” Foles said. ”Once I started talking to coach Fisher, I was excited to get to know him because that’s where my life was taking me.”

    St. Louis released veteran offensive linemen Scott Wells and Jake Long after last season and devoted much of the draft to the offensive line.

    Tackle Rob Havenstein was taken in the second round, followed tackle-guard Jamon Brown in the third, tackle Andrew Donnal in the fourth and guard Cody Wichmann in the sixth.

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    Havenstein and Brown spent a lot of time with the first unit Thursday.

    ”They’re going to do a great job,” Foles said. ”I remember my rookie year, what it’s like for these OTAs. This is really the foundation and you’re going to have those growing pains.”

    The players who spoke on Thursday said the possibility the franchise might move to Los Angeles at some point is not on their minds.

    ”Right now I’m here and that’s all I worry about,” Foles said. ”That’s all out of our control.”

    Fisher coached the Houston Oilers when they moved to Tennessee and said he’d rather not be apprised of developments.

    ”It’s been my opinion really from the start that when all this stuff started happening I’m better off probably not knowing the specifics,” the coach said. ”That way, when someone asks me I can say I don’t know.

    ”That way, I can say I’m telling the truth.”

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    Rams chat with Jim Thomas

    http://sports.live.stltoday.com/Event/Rams_chat_with_Jim_Thomas_91?Page=0

    Any survey results from Peacock or the Team owners? When should we expect some news?
    by Jack Reynolds 2:05 PM

    Hello again, everybody. As for survey results, nothing yet that I’m aware of.
    by jthomas 2:05 PM

    Jim – With the flurry of activity surrounding the owners meetings – including the possibility of a special meeting just to discuss St. Louis – and, the lawsuit, what’s your current stay percentage? Are you encouraged or discouraged?
    by McGarrett 2:05 PM

    I’m still at 43-57
    by jthomas 2:06 PM

    Hi Jim. Any updates to the story hat Stan was going to sell the Rams to his wife to meet the cross ownership rules. I know the NFL does whatever it wants when it comes to owners, but is that allowed? I’d like to know how that will impact the possible move to LA.
    by STLFootball 2:06 PM

    That was an old story, from at least a couple of years ago, that got published by mistake.
    by jthomas 2:06 PM

    so, with the lawsuit (whatever it is) are the rams as good as gone?
    by steve r 2:07 PM

    I wouldn’t say that. Not at this point.
    by jthomas 2:07 PM

    What’s your take on the demolition at Hollywood Park on Sunday? Do you think it was just Stan staying one step ahead or do you think the NFL basically said “hey, you’re going to win so why don’t you go ahead and start building”?
    by flyguy 2:07 PM

    Not much of a read on it either way. No matter what, the Hollywood Park facility was going down.
    by jthomas 2:08 PM

    I won’t ask for specifics, but do you or any member of the PD staff have information about the future of Rams football in St. Louis that you are unable to divulge to the public? A simple Yes or No answer will suffice.
    by Turf Toe Jones 2:08 PM

    Of course.
    by jthomas 2:08 PM

    Will Trey Watts remain a Ram after this suspension? How about Pead? Keep him around for some extra competition?
    by AzRams`Fan 2:08 PM

    Watts needs to have a very good training camp in order to give the Rams’ coaches something to think about. As does Pead. Obviously, Watts’ suspension opens up another opportunity for Pead to stick around.
    by jthomas 2:10 PM

    Does the team generate enough money in the region to justify staying? Or the inverse?
    by willeyeam 2:10 PM

    I think so.
    by jthomas 2:10 PM

    Jim – Any updates on Gurley’s health yet?
    by Ryan 2:10 PM

    Nothing yet. We’ll know more later in the week at the open OTAs.
    by jthomas 2:11 PM

    Was there any Rams offer to Joe Barksdale that was better than what he received from San Diego?
    by Turf Toe Jones 2:11 PM

    Both the Rams and Atlanta offered more money.
    by jthomas 2:11 PM

    IF both healthy, Bradford out performs Noles or vice versa?
    by Don 2:11 PM

    I’d say Bradford. But the “if healthy” is a monumental “if.”
    by jthomas 2:12 PM

    I keep reading the Rams drafted “road graders” and they’re a ground and pound team….”Gradest Show on Turf”? Kind of catchy if they can really run the ball.
    by AzRams`Fan 2:12 PM

    Yeah, which I believe is what they’ve been trying to do for 3-plus years.
    by jthomas 2:12 PM

    Do you think Peacock and Blitz should have just pushed for a public vote?
    by c_good 2:12 PM

    I know time is of the essence. And I realize it takes money to launch a campaign. But I don’t know why they didn’t try a vote first.
    by jthomas 2:13 PM

    What will Garcia’s role be?
    by willeyeam 2:13 PM

    He has the title of offensive assistant. It’s an entry level position and involves a lot of grunt work. It’s not a high-profile position.
    by jthomas 2:14 PM

    Do you think Nick Foles can lead the Rams to the playoffs?
    by Big Dave 2:14 PM

    If Foles stays healthy, the young offensive line produces, and the defense plays up to its press clippings _ yes.
    by jthomas 2:15 PM

    Hi Jim I just saw the Tre Mason Wired of his 3TD game vs OAK & he seems like a super exhuberant & likeable but humble well grounded guy with high character. He & Gurley could be big together yeah?
    by Sacramento Ram 2:15 PM

    Yeah, it’s just a matter of finding enough work for both _ and Gurley getting healthy.
    by jthomas 2:16 PM

    When do you think we will hear more news regarding the stadium from Peacock?
    by Mark 2:16 PM

    Hard to say. Perhaps when all the land is assembled.
    by jthomas 2:16 PM

    Does Cody Davis make the team this year??
    How about Christian Bryant?
    by mikeq 2:16 PM

    Barring injury, McDonald, McLeod, and Barron are locks. I would think Alexander would be close to a lock because of his draft status (fourth round). That leaves one spot if the team goes with five safeties. And at this point I think Davis would have the edge over Bryant.
    by jthomas 2:18 PM

    Has the season ticket sales dropped from last year at this time?
    by Mark 2:18 PM

    From what I have been told, yes, ticket sales are down although I can’t give you a percentage.
    by jthomas 2:19 PM

    take this with a grain of salt but I know a guy whose son is involved with the development of NFL stadiums. He says the STL stadium is a done deal with Raiders/Chargers to Carson and Jags will be pushed to London once their lease expires (2020s I think).
    by stlrams4ever 2:19 PM

    Clip and save.
    by jthomas 2:19 PM

    I think the biggest obstacle is stan contributing what he needs to for the stadium to go forward. No indication he will. Your thoughts. Thanks
    by Paul 2:19 PM

    It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. What if the NFL approves the Carson site? What other choice will Stan have.
    by jthomas 2:20 PM

    With all the moves made on the o-line, staying the course at WR, and total overhaul in the QB room, I think we may see more of the wide open offense that they tried in the beginning of ’13 as opposed to the G&P they are trying to sell. Thoughts?
    by willeyeam 2:20 PM

    No chance.
    by jthomas 2:20 PM

    If Stan is forced to stay he will have to contribute monies towards the new stadium, that is if he wants owners to vote for him to take over the Broncos when the time comes.
    by Terry 2:21 PM

    Something like that.
    by jthomas 2:21 PM

    Is there a large amount of technique difference between run blocking and pass blocking as an o-lineman? When someone is good at one but not the other, is it seen as a difficult transition to become good at both?
    by Jason Vorhees 2:22 PM

    Well, run-blocking takes more strength and power. Pass-blocking takes more athleticism and footwork. I know that’s a big generalization, but that’s it in a nutshell. Of course, there are also line calls, blitz pickups, dealing with stunts and blitzes that must be taken into account as well in pass blocking. This mental part can be just as difficult for incoming college players as the physical part.
    by jthomas 2:25 PM

    People keep saying Stan may be “forced to stay” as if something is “forcing” him to leave (besides the $$). Am I missing something?
    by willeyeam 2:25 PM

    No, but it’s clear he wants to leave.
    by jthomas 2:25 PM

    The national perspective on the Rams’ WR corps still seems to be that there are no real playmakers. Why do Snead/Fisher feel good about their options on the outside especially considering Quick has still yet to prove he is 100% healthy?
    by Tackleberry 2:26 PM

    They’re banking that Quick will pick up where he left off, that Britt will continue to play like he did last year, and that Austin and Bailey continue to improve. Plus, they have a pretty good idea of what to expect from Cook and Kendricks at tight end. And they’re hoping they’ll be catching passes from a first-string QB most if not all of preseason.
    by jthomas 2:30 PM

    any word on how the 3 FA RB’s, Brown Laskey and Franks looked during rookie camp?
    by Run Ram Run 2:30 PM

    Nothing yet. Today was their first full practice and was not open to the media.
    by jthomas 2:30 PM

    Do you think Bradford will have a tougher adjustment to the philly O, or foles to the STL O? Thanks
    by Paul 2:30 PM

    I don’t think it’ll be too tough for either. Remember, Bradford has his former OC as a rookie, Pat Shurmur, in the same role in Philly. So that will make the transition easier.
    by jthomas 2:31 PM

    Jim: I have hopes for more simple offense with better execution… have you interviewed the New OC yet … any insights to how he thinks? Everyone knowing what to do on every play was a problem at times for the rams.
    by Jeff In Utah 2:31 PM

    Yes, I wrote a couple of stories on Cignetti right after he was hired. He’s run-oriented, yet flexible. His overall philosophy isn’t that different from Fisher. He does want a simpler playbook with simpler terminology.
    by jthomas 2:33 PM

    Jim – Is it just me or has the Raiders to STL chatter died down considerably?
    by McGarrett 2:33 PM

    Two factors at play here. The seeming progress of the Carson project, and Mark Davis saying he was not interested in moving to St. Louis.
    by jthomas 2:34 PM

    Any word on pending FA Justin Blalok?
    by Matt in SC 2:35 PM

    I’ve heard nothing in the way of updates at this point.
    by jthomas 2:35 PM

    Jim, if I gave 500 million each to St. Louis, San Diego, and Oakland for stadium construction, would I be on Stan’s Christmas card list?
    by Jimbo 2:36 PM

    No sir.
    by jthomas 2:36 PM

    The player on offense with the most potential to gain pro-bowl/all-pro status is ______
    by willeyeam 2:36 PM

    A healthy Gurley. And probably a healthy Saffold.
    by jthomas 2:36 PM

    Hi Jim, If you were Nick Foles would you make sure your insurance policies are up to date? The ol could be very painful for him.
    by Rick 2:36 PM

    He needs to get the ball out quick.
    by jthomas 2:37 PM

    Roger Saffold: Any hopes of him playing RG, not LG this year .. he is great pulling to the left from the right side, looked lost, slow, tentative pulling right from the left ..
    by Jeff In Utah 2:37 PM

    I guess it’s possible. We’ll see where he lines up in OTAs.
    by jthomas 2:37 PM

    So what’s your take on Policy spearheading the Carson project? Seems like he is openly challenging Kroenke to prove why he deserves to be in Los Angeles and not the Chargers/Raiders.
    by Den 2:37 PM

    Policy certainly gives the Carson project more credibility, and he still has contacts in the league.
    by jthomas 2:38 PM

    i don’t understand why you would not share all the information you have about the rams stadium situation with your readers. this is not national security nor are any lives at stake. public dollars are being spent for this stadium development effort. why withhold information you have that we don’t have from this discussion?
    by branford76 2:38 PM

    Over the course of a story, any long-term story really, you are told things by sources that are off the record. In order to develop those sources, you have to play ball to a certain extent. You have to build up an element off trust.
    by jthomas 2:40 PM

    What do you mean by “clip and save” ??
    by stlrams4ever 2:40 PM

    In other words, remember it, and let’s see if it’s true in a few months.
    by jthomas 2:41 PM

    I’m looking through Cignetti’s Bio and I see he was with Cal Bears and DeSean Jackson when they were averaging 33 points a game. Do you see him opening up the offense (a little) and utilizing Austin and bailey in the same fashion, or is Fisher going to keep a tight leash on the offense?
    by PURE ADRENALINE 2:41 PM

    Again, I believe the basic philosophy won’t be much different.
    by jthomas 2:42 PM

    Over/under 45,000 in attendance for opening day?
    by Dr D 2:42 PM

    I’ll say tickets distributed will be over. Not sure about actual in-house attendance.
    by jthomas 2:43 PM

    Hi Jim, Thanks for all that you do for the cause of professional football for St. Louis! I keep picking up bits and pieces from Twitter sources, Post Dispatch and others that the NFL behind the scenes is more than frustrated with how Mr. Kroenke has gone about his business through all of this. Is there anything to that? Thanks and Go ST. LOUIS Rams!
    by Dan, the Lineman 2:43 PM

    I think there’s something to what you’re saying. Whether it turns out to be a major factor in how things unfold, I’m not sure.
    by jthomas 2:44 PM

    If Carson gets approval and the Rams have to stay in St. Louis, does Kroenke say “I don’t want to spend $450 million on a new stadium. Keep playing in the Dome.”
    by Tom R 2:44 PM

    Don’t think he would turn down an opportunity to play in a new stadium.
    by jthomas 2:44 PM

    In house attendance barely 40K, you can take that to the bank
    by Dr D 2:45 PM

    We’ll see.
    by jthomas 2:45 PM

    How much do you expect Foles to play in preseason? Will he need more reps than a holdover starter?
    by Ryan 2:46 PM

    You would think so, but Fisher in the past has been pretty conservative about playing his top starters very much in the preseason.
    by jthomas 2:47 PM

    Jim, Jack Robinson says he was the best player on the Blue Raider’s in ’03. No way that can be true. The dude was a Little League bench warmer, right?
    by Kevin 2:48 PM

    Jack was a very good all-around player, but no one could punt and run the bases like Kevin Robinson.
    by jthomas 2:49 PM

    Do you think there are any negative effects from the Rams waiting to start OTAs later than every other club in the NFL?
    by Benadict Arnold 2:49 PM

    No.
    by jthomas 2:49 PM

    Fisher’s decision to jettison SB or front office?
    by Don 2:49 PM

    I wonder about that one. Only because even Fisher was telling close associates that he thought the Rams would get a deal done with Bradford.
    by jthomas 2:50 PM

    Just for the record. I am a DIE HARD RAMS FAN in California. When they moved to St. Louis I was deflated, But I stick with my TEAM, not the owner, and I hope all the RAMS FANS in St. Louis would do the same if they moved back to California. But I do understand if they jump ship if Rams are back in Cali and another team moves into St. Louis. But for now GO RAMS wherever they end up!!
    by PURE ADRENALINE 2:51 PM

    If another team had moved into the market in 1996, or shortly thereafter _ say that expansion team LA was supposed to get that became the Houston Texans _ would you have remained a Rams fan.
    by jthomas 2:52 PM

    Suppose the Rams do leave, should St. Louis be entitled to all or a part of the “relocation” fee extracted by the NFL to help replace lost tax revenue and jobs? Or will that money just be divvied up between the other B/Millionaire owners?
    by Benadict Arnold 2:52 PM

    That money goes to the owners and the league. St. Louis won’t see any of it.
    by jthomas 2:52 PM

    How close does Kronke stay on the operations of the team?
    by Don 2:53 PM

    I assume you mean day-to-day operations. He’s pretty aware of what’s going on. But let’s face it, it’s not the same as having an owner on site most of the time.
    by jthomas 2:53 PM

    JT – Why no Sunday or Monday night Games for the Rams? Do you think attendance was a part of the decision?
    by Captain Obvious 2:54 PM

    Lack of success, I’m sure, was the main issue.
    by jthomas 2:54 PM

    I know this probably gets asked every chat, but any insights into the Blalock situation? Hurt? Asking too much? Moved beyond?
    by Michael 2:55 PM

    Just not in a hurry to sign. Looking for the right fit. And we’re not talking about Will Shields here, although his experience would be a plus.
    by jthomas 2:56 PM

    Good Day Jim, Now that the Rams D is loaded over or under 60 sacks for the season?
    by OzyRamsFan 2:57 PM

    60 is a big number. I’ll say under.
    by jthomas 2:57 PM

    Hi Jim, what’s your opinion on this late start to OTAs? Good common sense move or gimmick?
    by steve 2:57 PM

    No big deal. They’ve started this late the past couple of years under Fisher.
    by jthomas 2:58 PM

    Have you heard what’s to become of the Union Light & Power Building? I think the art work showed this a Rams team store but this is too big a building for only a team store. I’m thinking a Rams themed bar/restaurant would be great. At Lambeau Field in GB they have Curly’s and I’m thinking we could have something like that. I haven’t heard any details on this building. Are they holding out on that to potentially use that as a bargaining chip for Stan Kroenke?
    by Terry 2:58 PM

    I think that’s all to be determined. The team’s got to be here first.
    by jthomas 2:59 PM

    Granted the financing is finalized, I would be shocked if the owners voted to leave 400 million in public dollars on the table and let Stan move the team. One owner is quoted as saying Goodell won’t let that happen. To be at 43-57 they are leaving while there is plenty of optimism Peacock will get it done, you must know something we don’t that is very negative towards the deal getting done. Any hints?
    by stlrams4ever 2:59 PM

    Why should I change the percentage until something happens in terms of financing and land acquisition? It makes no sense.
    by jthomas 3:00 PM

    Will you attend the Rams games as a reporter IF they move to LA?
    by Sam Bentley 3:00 PM

    That’s not really my call. Up to my editors. Perhaps the opener in LA.
    by jthomas 3:01 PM

    Jim – I’m 100% behind the Rams getting a new stadium, but I am curious why you only hear about old stadiums being a problem in certain cities. The Buffalo Bills play in a stadium from the 70’s and you never here about it. Why is it an issue in certain cities but not others?
    by Ryan 3:01 PM

    The Rams have that “first-tier” clause in their stadium lease. That’s what’s forcing this whole relocation issue _ not the condition or age of the stadium.
    by jthomas 3:03 PM

    Best season Mariota or Winston?
    by Don 3:03 PM

    Winston. Has better talent around him.
    by jthomas 3:03 PM

    Which of the recently drafted rookies will start/make a meaningful contribution, in your opinion. Put differently, who should I watch for among them?
    by MJ 3:03 PM

    Check back with me in mid-August.
    by jthomas 3:04 PM

    WHEN DO THINK THERE WILL AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE POSSIBLE MOVE TO LA BY THE RAMS? BEFORE DEC. OR EARLY NEXT YEAR? AND IF THEY DON’T MOVE DO YOU THINK THE CHARGERS OR RAIDERS WILL BE HERE IN 2016
    by LAFAN 3:04 PM

    I think we’ll have a pretty good idea by the end of the calendar year.
    by jthomas 3:05 PM

    Jim, What happened to the lawsuit filed in St. Louis. I thought that it was to be held last week. Any updates.
    by Ramsfan 3:05 PM

    The initial hearing was canceled last week, per judges request. I think he was under the weather.
    by jthomas 3:05 PM

    If Carson works out, can Kroenke keep going year to year at the Dome, to see what other opportunities pop up in the next 5 years? (London?)
    by bh 3:06 PM

    That’s an interesting thought. In theory he could, but why would he turn his back on the possibility of a new stadium.
    by jthomas 3:07 PM

    Your predictions on NFC West?
    by Don 3:07 PM

    1.) Seattle; 2.) Arizona; 3.) St. Louis; 4.) San Fran.
    by jthomas 3:07 PM

    Is the Post-Dispatch moving into another building downtown? Do you have a desk there? Or do you basically work from home and Rams Park?
    by Rock15 3:07 PM

    Yes, we’re moving to another building. Haven’t had a desk there in years. Work either at Rams Park, on the road, or occasionally at home.
    by jthomas 3:08 PM

    Hey Jim,
    Do you stay in touch with former Ram players?
    Could you call Kurt, Isaac or Marshall if you wanted to?
    by isiah58 3:08 PM

    Of course.
    by jthomas 3:08 PM

    In regards to the Rams staying or going. What do you need to see that would change your % one way or another?
    by DJM34 3:08 PM

    Concrete news on land acquisition and financing.
    by jthomas 3:09 PM

    Does it concern you that Atlanta chose former Ram Mike Persons over Justin Blalock?
    by Tom R 3:09 PM

    No.
    by jthomas 3:09 PM

    Jim hopefully Fisher has the team ready to play against Seattle. First game last year they did not look ready. Been to training camp the last two years; looks like a country club atmosphere. They do not seem to work that hard. Any Thoughts?
    by Bart 3:09 PM

    It was shocking how unprepared the Rams looked in last year’s opener. Hopefully that changes this year.
    by jthomas 3:10 PM

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    They’ve been unprepared each of the last 3 seasons.
    by Dr D 3:11 PM

    Well, they won their opener in 2013 vs. Arizona.
    by jthomas 3:11 PM

    Why is Bill McLellan writing that the stadium deal is dead? Does he have Goodell in his hip pocket?
    by Rock15 3:12 PM

    I would expect nothing less from Bill.
    by jthomas 3:12 PM

    Jim – Guessing land acquisition would come before financing. Both in fall or land in late Summer?
    by McGarrett 3:12 PM

    Yeah, land first. I would think that could be done by end of summer.
    by jthomas 3:13 PM

    Your choice owner like Kronke or Jones?
    by Don 3:14 PM

    I’d take Jones any day.
    by jthomas 3:14 PM

    Hi Jim–are you more or less optimistic about the Rams than you were before the draft and the Bradford/Foles trade?
    by c_good 3:20 PM

    About the same.
    by jthomas 3:20 PM

    Hey Jim, Is the best chance of the Rams staying here turning out to be the Carson Project? If that is approved, will StanK then set his eyes on buying the Raiders or Broncos in your opinion? Thanks
    by STL45Fan 3:20 PM

    Certainly, St. Louisans hoping the Rams stay here should be rooting for Carson. If Carson happens, there’s no guarantee Davis will sell the Raiders. Denver would solve Stan’s cross-ownership issues, but there are no guarantees Broncos will sell either. Stan could be stuck with the Rams.
    by jthomas 3:24 PM

    Welcome back, Jim! Missed ya! I’m hearing reports that T Rob Havenstein and G Jamon Brown were over drafted by as much as 3 rounds early? Have you seen same? Can you report on contrary scouting?
    by bfulton 3:24 PM

    I don’t know if Havenstein was over-drafted, but I’d say Brown was. But not by three rounds.
    by jthomas 3:25 PM

    Jim – If the Rams leave would the post start covering the Chiefs?
    by Ryan 3:26 PM

    Doubt it.
    by jthomas 3:26 PM

    Did the Rams always intend to target DT Fairley or was that a surprise opportunity? Did it throw original plans to sign, say, free agent Olinemen?
    by bfulton 3:26 PM

    I think Fairley was in their plans all along. I don’t think it affected any plans to sign offensive linemen.
    by jthomas 3:27 PM

    Any Bud Sasser sightings? I have heard that he wasn’t around Ram’s Park much since the rookie orientation.
    by joe 3:28 PM

    Last I was told, he still hadn’t passed physical, and thus hasn’t been cleared to play.
    by jthomas 3:28 PM

    As we all try to see the future, which forthcoming step do you think will be the most telling indicator of a move? Before any official announcement of course.
    by Jack Reynolds 3:29 PM

    To a large degree, I still think this is in the hands of the stadium task force. If they get the land, and nail down the financing, I believe the Rams have a good chance of staying. If they don’t _ say good-bye to the Rams in St. Louis. This should crystallize in the fall.
    by jthomas 3:32 PM

    Jim, With Fisher not liking to start rookies on opening day, how many rookies start the opener on the O line 0,1 or 2 ?
    by OzyRamsFan 3:34 PM

    I’m going with 1 _ Havenstein.
    by jthomas 3:34 PM

    How sincere do you think Stan Kroenke was when he stated how dedicated he was to St. Louis when he gained full ownership of the team in 2010? It seems odd that his “dedication” would evaporate just over the failed negotiations with the CVC.
    by Freddy Kreuger 3:34 PM

    He seemed sincere at the time. He hasn’t been very patient since.
    by jthomas 3:35 PM

    Hi Jim, I saw a stat that 2nd round pick Havenstein benched 225lbs 16 times at the combine. That seems extremely low he a guy that weighs 330. Makes me wonder how he’ll do against linemen that are a lot stronger than him. Hopefully I read it wrong….do you recall what it was and if true, what that might mean for him at the next level? Thanks!
    by Greg 3:37 PM

    No, 16 is the correct number of reps at the combine for Havenstein in the 225-pound bench press. You’d expect more for someone with a road-grader reputation.
    by jthomas 3:38 PM

    Maybe the QB change will show if Bradford was the issue or not. But I’m very happy with our WR group. I won’t be surprised if our points score total is up 20 – 25 this year.
    by PURE ADRENALINE 3:39 PM

    It might. But I think the early concern is whether there will be enough protection for Foles with such an inexperienced offensive line.
    by jthomas 3:40 PM

    Thanks for the chats JT! Always engaging. Though there are a myriad of scenarios that could play out ultimately regarding the Rams staying or relocating, it seems to me that if SD is able to negotiate a new stadium site for the Chargers, the Carson deal is dead. Then, Inglewood becomes the choice of preference for the NFL and thus the Rams. Assuming that the Raiders can’t finance a stadium in Carson alone, what could possibly deter the owners from approving Kroenke’s project? Thoughts?
    by Knux 3:41 PM

    I’ll have to see it to believe it on the San Diego stadium front.
    by jthomas 3:42 PM

    Can a team in so much turmoil, will they stay or will they go, be able to focus enough on the game to make a run to the playoffs?
    by bjf 3:42 PM

    That’s the question isn’t it?
    by jthomas 3:42 PM

    Hopefully the defense decides to play 16 games this season. I live in Philly and saw Foles play. If he gets time he is great. Do u think the OL aqusitions in the draft will give him that time
    by mla 3:43 PM

    Very debatable whether OL draft picks will be able to give Foles enough time this year.
    by jthomas 3:44 PM

    Can Stedman Bailey beat out Quick on the outside, or is his primary competition with his former MVU teammate in the slot?
    by YoMurphy 3:44 PM

    I believe the Rams coaches would prefer Quick in the starting lineup because of his size.
    by jthomas 3:45 PM

    In 2005, when Georgia waved her right to the stadium clause that the Dome had to be in the top quartile, was the Dome out of the top quartile at the time do you think? And, is there a legal document that was written, filed, or signed waving the right to this and I’m wondering what was written by the Rams about that and does it have any bearing on the case the Rams are trying to make now.
    by Terry 3:45 PM

    There were so many stadiums built or massively renovated between 1995-2005, I don’t think the Dome would’ve been in the top 8 in 2005. I don’t know if there was anything in writing by the Rams waving that right.
    by jthomas 3:47 PM

    You think Stan might just be using Inglewood as leverage to get a new stadium in St. Louis? Or is Stan hellbent on LA.
    by Keith 3:48 PM

    I believe Stan is way past the leverage stage.
    by jthomas 3:48 PM

    Hi Jim, Connecticut Rams fan since 1973, Why not go for it and put a retractable roof on the St.Louis new stadium Say to get a Super Bowl?
    by Tim m 3:48 PM

    If you do that, then you’ve got to come up with an extra $300 million. The Task Force is having a tough enough time getting to $985 million.
    by jthomas 3:49 PM

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    Have read the discussions regarding the Rams losing Chris Long after this season due to cap considerations. Seems as if we are just getting close to putting together a competitive team, then we face losing some of the talent we’ve accumulated over the years. Fairley will also be a possible loss. Any others that come to mind?
    by Michael 3:49 PM

    Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, William Hayes, Eugene Sims, Rodney McLeod, and Brian Quick also have contracts scheduled to expire after the 2015 season.
    by jthomas 3:50 PM

    Do you think Fairley is a long term starter for the Rams or just this year?
    by Terry 3:51 PM

    I’m gonna say a one-year rental. If he plays really well, the Rams will have a tough time keeping him beyond 2015.
    by jthomas 3:52 PM

    JT…good coverage, considering the 800 pound gorilla, in the room…how is the Marketing Team going to “sell” The Rams…? Or, since it’s the NFL, it won’t matter…???
    by Norm Van Brocklin 3:53 PM

    I think we’re all curious to see how many fans actually show up once the games start.
    by jthomas 3:53 PM

    would it seem most players want a move or do they comment?
    by Don 3:55 PM

    I’m sure a lot of the younger, single players would enjoy playing in LA.
    by jthomas 3:55 PM

    Jim, will you be at the Coach Fisher Softball Event? and I want to remind all the Rams fans to come out and have a good showing of support so we can keep the Rams in St.Louis beyond 2015.
    by Terry 3:56 PM

    I have a radio show obligation from 6-7 p.m. that day, but may join the festivities in progress..
    by jthomas 3:56 PM

    This is all going to come down to if the financing is in place by the time the big decisions are going to be made isn’t it? StLouis gets the financing=Owners vote for Carson…none in place=Inglewood it is?
    by Shackleferd 3:57 PM

    Don’t know how often I can stress it _ financing is key.
    by jthomas 3:57 PM

    I DO NOT RECALL SEEING AUSTIN, BAILEY AND GIVENS ON THE FIELD AT THE SAME TIME, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING WITH MASON AND GURLEY IN THE BACK FIELD AS WELL. HARD TO DEFEND. WOOPS SORRY FOR ALL CAPS 🙂
    by PURE ADRENALINE 3:58 PM

    Well, Givens was barely on the field at all last year, so you’re probably right.
    by jthomas 3:58 PM

    We find endless optimism for OL draft picks but forget about candidates like B Jones. If he’s healthy, shouldn’t he be ready to step in and be at least better than Wells?
    by flagthrower 3:58 PM

    It looks like that’s the plan _ for Barrett Jones to have first crack at starting job.
    by jthomas 3:59 PM

    Any chance San Diego and St. Louis get stadium deals done locally, and the NFL decides to expand to LA giving Kroenke the rights to own the expansion team?
    by Kip 3:59 PM

    There is no movement for expansion in the league at this time.
    by jthomas 3:59 PM

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    Sad desperate history of Rams OL injury years? There are a few seasons that sort of qualify for that. Here I do 2007, 2009, & 2011.

    Each of those years had their own special injury hell.

    In 2011, they fielded 9 starting OL, and (by my quick count) 8 different OL combinations.

    The starters included Saffold Bell Brown Dahl Smith Goldberg Wragge LeVoir Mattison

    That’s not really the whole story. Because of constant shuffling, some started more than one position. Dahl for example had to shift to right tackle. Brown got benched and then had to come back at guard. They started 3 different left tackles—Saffold Levoir Goldberg.

    The week 1 OL was

    Saffold Bell Brown Dahl Smith

    The week 17 OL was

    LeVoir Brown Wragge Mattison Dahl

    With lots of variations in between.

    Of the 5 in the week 17 OL, 3 were out of football after that season and 1 more lasted just 1 more year. Only Dahl kept playing, though not at ROT.

    All this was compounded by 2 things.

    1. They were playing an entirely new offensive scheme without benefit of an off-season. On top of it, McD was not patient with it—when installing the offense over the summer, he would go over something one day and then move on the next. (In 2012, players remarked on how unlike the year before they would review things as a part of installing the new system, and this was contrasted with 2011). As a result, the OL began the season about as out of sync as I have ever seen them. There were times when a pulling guard and the center wouldn’t have their timing down and one would actually trip the other.

    2. Both Bell and Brown were out of it mentally. After the season, in fact, both had offers and yet both left football. Brown actually got benched, as I said, yet they needed to bring him back. I think Brown’s brother being killed as a soldier overseas shook him up. That was the season also where Jason Smith hung it up mentally—if you recall he was getting neck and head injuries and was checking out mentally because it didn’t seem worth it to him, it was scary to him.

    In 2009, it was 9 starters and 7 OL combinations. One loss wasn’t an injury—they cut Incognito.

    Barron Bell Brown Incognito Smith Goldberg Setterstrom Greco Allen.

    In 2007,, the mother of all OL injury years, it was 12 different starters and 8 different OL combinations. They had 5 different OL combinations in the 1st 5 games….6 in the 1st 8 games.

    Pace Setterstrom Romberg M.Brown (at both OG and OT)Barron Terrell Goldberg Incognito McCollum (at both center and guard) Gorin Lecky Steussie

    ….2007 had 14 OL on the roster, in the end.


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    So far that leaves out 2006, 2008, 2012, and 2014.

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    http://news.yahoo.com/biden-announces-death-son-beau-brain-cancer-015713117–politics.html

    Beau Biden dies at 46; son of VP had life of adversity
    Associated Press By RANDALL CHASE
    2 hours ago

    DOVER, Del. (AP) — He was the privileged son of a longtime U.S. senator and two-term vice president, yet Joseph R. “Beau” Biden III was no stranger to personal adversity

    When he was only 3, just weeks after his father, Joe Biden, had been elected to the Senate, the younger Biden was seriously injured in a 1972 car crash that killed his mother and infant sister. His father was sworn into office at his hospital bedside.

    As a young college student, not long after his father’s 1987 presidential campaign imploded among allegations of plagiarism, he was back in the hospital, holding vigil with other family members as Joe Biden underwent surgery for a life-threatening aneurysm.

    And after launching his own successful political career, Beau Biden was dogged by health problems. In 2010, he suffered a mild stroke at the age of 41.

    On Saturday, Beau Biden died of brain cancer, less than two years after he was diagnosed. He was 46.

    Although twice elected attorney general, the younger Biden never realized the dream of many Delaware political observers that he would follow in his father’s footsteps as a U.S. senator, and perhaps even become governor.

    Biden did, in fact, plan to run for governor in 2016. He made the announcement in an April 2014 email to supporters in which he also noted he would not seek re-election as Delaware attorney general.

    The announcement caught Delaware’s political establishment off guard, and also renewed questions about Biden’s health. In the ensuing months, he kept a low public profile and declined news media requests for interviews.

    “I think he would have run. I think he would have won,” said Delaware Gov. Jack Markell, a fellow Democrat. Markell said he last spoke to Biden in February, when he invited him to a meeting of Democratic governors in Washington, D.C.

    “He was serious” about running for governor, added New Castle County Executive Tom Gordon, a longtime friend and political ally of Joe Biden who described Beau Biden as the most popular politician in Delaware. “He thought he was going to win this battle.”

    Gordon said he last spoke to Beau several weeks ago, when Biden participated in a conference call on crime issues in Wilmington.

    “He was a rock star,” Gordon said. “He had a great image, great character.”

    President Barack Obama said he and his wife, Michelle, were grieving alongside the Biden family.

    “Michelle and I humbly pray for the good Lord to watch over Beau Biden, and to protect and comfort his family here on Earth,” Obama said in a separate statement. The Obamas visited the vice president and his family at their official residence, the Naval Observatory, on Sunday afternoon.

    After leaving office earlier this year, Biden joined a Delaware law firm run by Stuart Grant, a prominent Democratic campaign donor and plaintiffs lawyer specializing in corporate litigation. The law firm announced late last month that Biden was expanding his work on behalf of whistleblower clients, but Biden was not available for comment.

    Biden, a University of Pennsylvania graduate, earned a law degree from Syracuse University in 1994. He served as a law clerk for a federal judge in New Hampshire before working for the U.S. Department of Justice from 1995 until 2002, including five years as a federal prosecutor in Philadelphia. In 2001, he volunteered for an interim assignment helping to train judges and prosecutors in postwar Kosovo.

    With his father, then Delaware’s senior U.S. senator, at his side in 2006, Biden launched his campaign for attorney general. He promised to reorganize the state Department of Justice to better combat identity theft, Internet stalking by pedophiles, street crime and abuse of the elderly.

    Politically astute, photogenic and backed by his father’s political machine, Biden won with 52.6 percent of the vote.

    “He’s supped at this table since he’s been 3 years old,” a beaming Joe Biden said after the victory. Beau Biden was a toddler when his father was first elected to the Senate.

    “I’m just proud of him,” the elder Biden added. “I think he will make the state proud.”

    During the campaign, however, the younger Biden sidestepped questions about his ultimate political ambitions.

    “Sometimes, it’s not good to look too far down the road,” said Biden, who remained similarly cautious about discussing his long-range plans in an interview with The Associated Press after suffering the stroke in 2010.

    “Having long-term dreams is a good thing … but having a plan has never worked for me, because life always intervenes,” Biden told the AP at the time. For Biden, his initial health scare was also a reminder to balance his job with family time — advice he encouraged others to follow.

    “It’s kind of reinforced how I’ve operated my life,” he said.

    As attorney general, Biden established a child predator unit, joined other attorneys general in taking on mortgage lenders over foreclosure abuses, proposed tougher bail restrictions for criminal defendants, and defended the death penalty, putting him at odds with some fellow Democrats.

    But a spate of shootings in Biden’s hometown of Wilmington went largely unabated during his tenure, and his office stumbled in some high-profile murder prosecutions, including two cases in which murder charges were dropped. Biden also faced scrutiny over how his office handled the case of Earl Bradley, a pediatrician who sexually assaulted scores of young patients over more than a decade before being arrested in December 2009.

    Biden cited his focus on the Bradley case in announcing in January 2010 that he would not run for the Senate seat that his father vacated in 2008 when he was elected vice president.

    The younger Biden’s decision stunned political observers, including many fellow Democrats who thought Joe Biden’s former chief of staff, Ted Kaufman, had been appointed to the Senate on an interim basis to keep the seat warm for the son. A fellow Democrat, New Castle County Executive Chris Coons, won the seat after Castle, who had been considered the odds-on favorite, was upset by tea party-backed Christine O’Donnell in the GOP primary.

    “I have no regrets,” Biden said after O’Donnell’s stunning primary victory scrambled the political calculus surrounding the Senate seat.

    Biden coasted to re-election as attorney general in 2010 after Republicans declined to field a candidate against him.

    In addition to his work as a lawyer and attorney general, Biden was a major in an Army National Guard unit that deployed to Iraq in 2008.

    Beau Biden is survived by his wife, Hallie, and children Natalie, 11, and Hunter, 9, along with his father and stepmother, a brother and sister, a sister-in-law and brother-in-law, and three nieces.

    Funeral arrangements were not announced. Beau Biden is entitled to military funeral honors, said Lt. Col. Len Gratteri, a spokesman for the Delaware National Guard.

    ___

    Associated Press Writer Darlene Superville in Washington contributed to this report.

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    “…Among professional athletes, the number of ACL injuries has soared…”

    http://grantland.com/features/derrick-rose-rob-gronkowski-rise-acl-tears/
    The Nastiest Injury in Sports

    Gronk was just the latest victim. Why are ACL tears on the rise?
    by Neal Gabler on December 10, 2013

    To be honest, it doesn’t look like much. It’s short, just over an inch in length, and stubby, about half an inch wide. It is white, slick, and striated like a cluster of angel-hair pasta. It isn’t rubbery, and it doesn’t have much elasticity. In fact, you wouldn’t give it a second thought — not until it self-destructed, which it occasionally does, always at the most inopportune of times. And then you wouldn’t think about much else but that gremlin that now sits at the center of so many of our games. It was there when Kansas City Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard dove at Tom Brady’s knee on the 15th offensive snap of the Patriots’ season in 2008. It was there in December 2011 when Adrian Peterson went up the middle for three yards in the third quarter. It was there when Derrick Rose landed awkwardly during the first game of the 2012 playoffs, making him grimace in agony and sending him to the sidelines for over a year. It was there two years ago when Mariano Rivera was shagging flies in Kansas City and tripped over the apron to the warning track, ending his season. It was there just this last weekend when Cleveland Browns safety T.J. Ward crashed into the knee of Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski. It has been there for Mickey Mantle, Wes Welker, Jerry Rice, Ricky Rubio, Donovan McNabb, Craig Biggio, and Tiger Woods, to name just a handful. That gremlin is always there — just waiting to pop.

    Lately, though, it seems to have been acting up a lot — so much so that one might even say the three most important letters in sports are not NFL, NBA, MLB, or NHL but ACL, as in the dreaded anterior cruciate ligament, that little bundle of collagen right at the center of your knee. It is that bundle that tears apart, leaving athletes to scream, cry, and pound the turf or court in frustration and torment. There are nearly 400,000 ACL repair procedures each year in the United States — a disproportionate number of them for women, who are seven or eight times more likely to tear their ACLs than men. If there has been an uptick in ACL injuries among the general population, says Dr. Brian Cole, the Chicago Bulls’ team physician and the surgeon who performed Derrick Rose’s reconstructive surgery, it is because more people, especially young people, are participating in sports. “You’re seeing more exposure to high-risk activities,” says Dr. Cole, “and you’re seeing a different level of athleticism that’s probably contributing.” But that’s the general population — you and me. Among professional athletes, the number of ACL injuries has soared. When Rose went down with his ACL tear, he was, according to Basketball Prospectus, the first true star to have done so since Danny Manning tore his ACL in 1995, and Manning was the first since Bernard King tore his in 1985. Then came the deluge. Though the NBA refuses to release information on ACL tears, by one tally, seven guards suffered tears after Rose, including Iman Shumpert, who tore his the same day as Rose; Rajon Rondo; and Leandro Barbosa. Ricky Rubio tore his ACL just a month before Rose.

    Where the number of tears seems to hit epidemic proportions is in the NFL. Professional football doesn’t release ACL figures, either, but Kevin Seifert of ESPN.com discovered that as of October 23, 30 players had been placed on injured reserve because of ACL tears — topping the 25 for all of 2011 and edging close to the 32 for all of 2012. As early as this year’s NFL training camps, ACLs were snapping all over the place.

    But here is the thing about ACL tears: They’re not just another injury. They are the Godzilla of injuries. They are painful beyond tolerance, they take eons to rehab, and they always leave a lingering doubt in the athlete’s mind that he will ever be whole again. An ACL tear tests one’s mettle. An ACL tear goes to the very heart of resilience and mental toughness. An ACL tear is the standard against which the athlete himself measures his determination. An ACL tear is the absolute limit.

    The Sickening “Pop”

    The ACL sits in the middle of the knee, in a notch on the femur or thigh bone on the top and in another notch on the tibia or shinbone on the bottom. It is between the medial collateral ligament on the inside of the knee and the lateral collateral ligament on the outside, both of which keep the knee from moving from side to side. It is in front of the posterior cruciate ligament, which keeps the tibia from sliding back behind the femur. (PCLs don’t rip much because — thankfully — there aren’t too many occasions in sports where the knee goes backward.) The knee itself is covered in front by the patella, or kneecap, a kind of cup that is connected to the femur by the quadriceps tendon and to the tibia by the patellar tendon.1 The function of all these parts is to hold the femur and tibia together so they don’t slip apart. Because if they do, frankly, you won’t be able to walk.

    Rob Gronkowski

    Theoretically, an athlete couldn’t function without an intact ACL, at least not any athlete who had to pivot or make sharp turns or accelerate or decelerate quickly. The ACL is what makes these movements possible by limiting the range of motion the knee can accommodate. It is a kind of restrictor, and when it pops, it is because the athlete has overridden the restrictor. (Baseball players don’t tear their ACLs often because baseball is a linear sport without sharp turns; it doesn’t require a player to juke the way football, basketball, and soccer do. Baseball players work within the restriction of their joint.) But here’s the rub: The ACL is not only the weakest of the four ligaments that connect the femur and tibia, it is the weakest ligament in the entire body. And professional athletes subject that stub of weak collagen to all sorts of forces it was not designed to withstand.2

    Athletes talk about hearing the pop. Some describe it as a sound like a rubber band snapping. Some say you not only hear the pop the way you hear ordinary sounds, but that it travels up your body from the knee, so that your whole trunk reverberates with it.

    It doesn’t take much to “pop” the ACL, which is typically what happens when the ACL tears. Athletes talk about hearing the pop. Some describe it as a sound like a rubber band snapping. Some say you not only hear the pop the way you hear ordinary sounds, but that it travels up your body from the knee so that your whole trunk reverberates with it. There is no mistaking that pop. Just about every athlete knows immediately what it means. Dr. Cole says that for all the MRIs and other sophisticated tests devised to determine if one has torn his or her ACL, the surest sign is still the “pop” and the swelling that almost invariably follows when the blood vessels in the knee bleed into the joint. And, of course, the pain — the unbearable pain that knifes through your leg.

    It is not uncommon to think the pop is the result of violence, of a hit to the knee that jars it and snaps the ligament. And sometimes it is — to wit, Brady and Peterson. But the vast majority of ACL tears are not a product of contact. If you saw Reggie Wayne, all alone in the flat without a defender within 10 yards of him, turning to the ball and then suddenly crumpling to the turf during the Broncos-Colts game earlier this year, you know. Just about every ACL tear comes about when a player is twisting, trying to avoid contact or to deceive a defender, and then plants his leg in such a way that he has increased the torque on the ACL, bending it as it was not intended to bend. Essentially, it is the juke that will kill you.

    Dr. Robert Litchfield, medical director of the Fowler Kennedy Sport Medicine Clinic at the University of Western Ontario and part of the Canadian Alpine Ski Team medical group, studied videotape of ACL injuries and found a pattern. He found that those who tore their ACLs all did the exact same thing with their legs when they were avoiding a defender or reacting to an offensive player. “They throw it [the injured limb] out to the side, and they try to make an upper-body move where they move away from the side that they’ve just planted,” he says. “And they get to what we call a `point of no return.’” The knee misaligns, turns inward, and the athlete lands knock-kneed. That is when you hear the pop. That is why, Dr. Litchfield believes, an athlete like LeBron James will never suffer a tear. “When he comes down from a dunk, he comes down very low and powerfully versus coming down on an extended leg.” In short, LeBron’s legs are bowed, and athletes who bow their legs generally don’t tear their ACLs.

    The problem is that athletes in the heat of battle seldom think about how they plant or land. They just do it. And when they do, and their ACL tears, they are basically screwed.

    Battling the Gremlin

    Or, to be more precise, they used to be screwed. If Derrick Rose had suffered his injury 20 or 30 years ago, his career would have ended because doctors wouldn’t have known what to do about it. Which isn’t to say that they hadn’t been trying for a long, long time. According to a French history of ACL surgery, the first ACL repair was performed in 1895 in Leeds, England, on a 41-year-old miner who had a load of dirt fall on him. What the doctor did was stitch the torn ACL ends back together, and the miner claimed he was good as new, though this seems highly unlikely. In 1903, a German doctor performed the first ACL replacement surgery using silk braids for the ligament. No luck. Fourteen years later, an English surgeon named Dr. Ernest W. Hey Groves performed the first ACL reconstruction surgery by harvesting the iliotibial band that runs outside the thigh from the hip to the shin and then affixing it to the femur and tibia with ivory screws. Though the operation was imperfect, that is pretty much the way it was until the 1960s. Then, a Dr. Kenneth Jones of Little Rock, Arkansas, began using the patellar tendon as a graft. ACL It was primitive. Most surgeons opened up the knee, leaving gruesome scars. And the procedure wasn’t standardized. Every surgeon sort of did his or her own thing. What’s more, it wasn’t terribly successful, especially for athletes. It was designed to get patients walking, not faking out linemen on the field or centers on the court. In fact, the surgeons themselves were so distrustful of their own handiwork, so fearful their grafts would rip, they would immobilize the knee in huge casts for months after the surgery — which, as it turned out, only served to stiffen the knee, reduce its range of motion, and shrink the quad muscles in front of the leg. By the time the patients emerged from their casts, they had to rebuild their entire leg musculature from scratch. And that couldn’t be done. It was over.

    And then came Dr. William Clancy. Clancy had been recruited in 1974 to head a sports medicine program at the University of Wisconsin. While attending a lecture on ACL reconstruction by a Swedish physician, he had his Eureka! moment. Since Jones, just about everyone using the patellar tendon had left it attached to the tibia and then routed the tendon through the knee and fixed it to the femur. Clancy said he thought the patellar tendon should be harvested with bone blocks on each end, because it would be more flexible and stronger. He would then drill holes into both the femur and tibia, pull the tendon through, and attach the blocks through the holes. He felt this would more closely approximate the actual ACL. The “Clancy procedure,” albeit with all sorts of tweaks and refinements, remains the basic form of reconstruction to this day.

    It isn’t exactly the most exciting surgery. ACL reconstruction typically takes between 90 minutes and three hours, depending on the skill of the surgeon and the ancillary damage to the knee. Surgeons basically make a small incision (some make two or three), through which they harvest a strip from the middle third of the patellar tendon with the bone blocks at each end. (Some surgeons use hamstring tendons, and others use what is called an “allograft,” which is a tendon from a cadaver.) Then, working through tiny poke holes and guided by an HD camera, they remove the shredded ACL, drill the holes in the femur and tibia, pull the graft through the tunnels with a tiny metal probe, and fasten it at each end with bioabsorbable screws. In about eight months, the tendon “vascularizes” — that is, it is transformed into a ligament and becomes an actual, organic part of the knee. Though some have claimed a reconstructed knee will never be entirely normal, there is good news: The new patellar tendon is stronger than the original ACL. In fact, a Scandinavian registry shows that the rate of re-rupture after an ACL tear is only 10 to 12 percent, which is just about the same rate for an ACL tear in the other knee. But even with all the surgical advances and new medical knowledge, it isn’t easy to return to the pre-tear level. A University of Pennsylvania study found that of 31 NFL running backs and 33 wide receivers who suffered ACL tears between 1998 and 2002, one in five never returned, and those who did were one-third less effective in the three years after surgery. Another study, by Dr. James Andrews, the orthopedic surgeon who performed Adrian Peterson’s reconstruction, found that of 49 NFL players operated on at his clinic from 2001 to 2006, only 64 percent returned to action. Some outstanding backs, like Jamaal Anderson and Terrell Davis, never returned to previous form.

    The ACL can do that to you.

    The Miraculous Return of All Day

    And then there is Adrian Peterson, who has become the poster boy for ACL recovery. Peterson suffered his tear on December 24, 2011. If you had to have an ACL tear, it was nearly impeccable timing. Tearing his at the very end of the season meant he didn’t miss much time in 2011 and that he had a long time to rehab for 2012. And Peterson had another piece of luck, if you can call tearing your ACL luck. He only tore his ACL and MCL. He didn’t have a meniscus issue. As his physical therapist Russ Paine said, “Part of the reason for someone not returning back is not that they’re not trying hard, but it’s the status of the interior of the joint.” A bad joint makes it much harder. According to Paine, Peterson’s knee was pristine.

    Less than nine months after his injury, Peterson was back on the field. That, in itself, wasn’t so unusual. ACL tear recovery usually takes anywhere from nine months to a year. But almost every surgeon or therapist will tell you that when an athlete returns, it takes him awhile to regain his form, typically a year or so. Peterson didn’t just return to form. He began racking up yards, bulling over would-be tacklers, hitting the open field, bobbing and weaving and outrunning everyone. Peterson was a miracle. He finished the season just nine yards shy of the single-season rushing record and he won the MVP award. Not good as new. Better than new. That’s what everyone marveled at. Adrian Peterson In doing this, Peterson set a standard that would bedevil other ACL-tear sufferers. If he could do it, why couldn’t they? (This puts aside the huge question some have raised of whether Peterson had the assistance of PEDs.) Why did Derrick Rose, for example, keep resisting coming back last season when he was allegedly cleared to play by his doctors? Why didn’t all the ACL sufferers just man up the way Peterson had?

    The answer, simply: Every ACL tear is its own private hell with its own particular road back. Vikings trainer Eric Sugarman told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that Peterson was a “disaster” the first two weeks after surgery. “He was about as miserable as a human being could be. He was calling me late at night, texting me with hate messages. He didn’t shave. He lost weight. He hurt.” Sugarman devised an early exercise protocol — days after surgery, Peterson was on a stationary bike, as was Derrick Rose — and handed him off to Russ Paine of the Iron Man Sports Medicine Institute in Houston.

    Paine looks like a marine drill sergeant and is one of the most highly regarded therapists in the business. In the 1970s, he tore both of his ACLs playing high school basketball in Lubbock, Texas. Doctors opened up his knees and used the hamstring tendon and iliotibial band to pull back the tibia. Then he went to a whirlpool and limped off to play again. He would never regain full strength. But Paine admits his own situation is one of the things that pushed him toward a career in physical therapy, where he manages the rehabs of as many as 100 professional athletes a year. What makes him sought after, he thinks, is that where many less-experienced therapists are conservative when it comes to pro athletes, afraid they might push them too hard and wind up reinjuring them, Paine has done this so long, he knows exactly what the threshold is and usually goes right up to it. “They may hurt your feelings,” he would say to his clients of his exercises. “But they won’t hurt your knee.”

    That’s what he did with Peterson — worked him right up to the threshold. Peterson arrived at Paine’s facility at 10 days post-op and stayed six months. Each day he spent 90 minutes to two hours with Paine, then went off and did his core strengthening for hours more. This was the routine five, sometimes six days a week. Paine said other NFLers would watch Peterson and shake their heads in awe. Once Peterson’s quads began to come back — Paine says the quads “melt like butter” after surgery — he would work with Paine for three hours on range of motion and balance before going off to lift weights. Paine said the running back was a “monster” in the training room just as he had been a “monster” on the field.

    “ACL rehab isn’t about bigger muscles,” Paine says, “it is about muscle reeducation.” Peterson had to learn to get his muscles firing with his knee. He did. Less than a month after the tear, Peterson was off his crutches. By March he was running. By early May he was cutting. By May 30, he was racing teammate Percy Harvin. By September he was playing.

    But it’s what you don’t see in ACL rehab that counts just as much as what you do see. An ACL tear is not just a gremlin in the knee; it’s a gremlin in the brain. You have to convince yourself that you can be exactly who you were, and that is very hard to do. Expunging those doubts may have been the biggest part of Derrick Rose’s recovery. He didn’t want to have to think about his knee, and he had to reach the point where he wouldn’t. Clippers guard Jamal Crawford, who tore his ACL in 2001, said he walked with a limp for months even though he knew the reconstructed ACL was stronger than the original. The limp was in his head. As Dr. Litchfield, the Canadian ski team adviser, puts it, when an athlete doesn’t return to his sport, you assume something went wrong with the surgery and that he is physically impaired. But, Litchfield says, examinations don’t show any physical difference between those who return and those who don’t. The issues are likely to be psychological — the non-returners tending to be “higher-anxiety people or more cautious.” They just can’t bury that gremlin once and for all the way Adrian Peterson did.

    The Strange Case of DeJuan Blair

    But Adrian Peterson, remarkable as he is, at least had ACLs. DeJuan Blair was already a schoolboy phenom in Pittsburgh when, the summer before ninth grade, he went up for a block and landed awkwardly on a concrete court, hearing the infamous “pop.” He had to crawl his way to the sideline, writhing. At the hospital, he was diagnosed with a bone bruise, but when he couldn’t walk, he got a second opinion: ACL tear. The Pittsburgh Steelers’ team physician performed his surgery. It was just about a year later, during the high school playoffs, that Blair batted the opening tipoff to an opposing player, raced down the court to block his shot, levitated, landed, and felt the pop again, this time in his left knee. He knew immediately. “That one was gone,” he remembers. There was another surgery. He was on painkillers for three months and would wake up in the middle of the night crying because he wasn’t sure he could make it back again.

    “I wanted to give up on basketball,” he says, “but my mother and my father and my grandmother kept me going — and the love of the game.” He resolved that he would come back stronger. During his junior year, he wore two knee braces to help stabilize the knees, but even though he could play, there was that mental gremlin warning him that they could tear again. DeJuan Blair Which is exactly what happened. He re-tore his right ACL in 11th grade dunking in his coach’s backyard. But this time he dared not go to the hospital because he feared what his parents would say about his trying to dunk on his fragile knees. So he went to a therapist and tried to work through the pain. He did. And then, just before his senior year, he was playing with his brothers on a concrete court in the Hill District, went up for a dunk, landed, and … pop! He limped home, holding in the agony, returned to the therapist, and somehow, the pain subsided. As Blair puts it now, “I was blessed.”

    How blessed not even he knew. He became an All-American at Pittsburgh and runner-up to Blake Griffin as College Player of the Year, then left after his sophomore season to pursue his dream of playing in the NBA. It was at the draft camp in Chicago that his knees were X-rayed and the radiologist delivered the news: Blair had been playing without ACLs. Even Blair said he was “amazed.” He knew he had reinjured the knees, but said he had no idea he had actually torn the ACLs again. Charger quarterback Philip Rivers had played in the 2008 AFC championship game without a right ACL, Pittsburgh wide receiver Hines Ward had played without a left ACL. But no one had ever had a professional career without any ACLs.

    Of course, once teams heard, his draft stock plummeted. Expected to go in the first round, he fell to 37 and the San Antonio Spurs, where he played his way into the rotation. There are several theories of what enabled Blair to play when his knees should have been slipping and sliding. The most convincing is that Blair spent so much time building his quads, hamstrings, and calf muscles that they grew oversize enough to stabilize the knee. Blair himself says he had always worked diligently on his legs — at 6-foot-7 and 270 pounds, he is built like a Transformer — and that he never felt any pain after those first torments or played the game any differently from when he had ACLs. As for the mental part, since he didn’t know he didn’t have functional ACLs, there was nothing to overcome. Now he is on the Mavericks, playing solid minutes and putting up good numbers.

    He says, not unreasonably, that his life would make a good movie.

    Why Women More Than Men?

    We know the proximate cause of ACL tears: that odd foot plant and rotation. But that raises the question of why a trained athlete plants his foot that way when his body should be telling him otherwise — or why, when he does, the ACL can’t withstand the torque, when it seems to have been designed to do so. Theories abound. There is evidence that fatigue plays a role. Most ACL tears occur late in a game when an athlete may be running on fumes, and Dr. Cole, Rose’s surgeon, has published a paper demonstrating that in the NBA, tears typically happen in the second half to players who have heavy minutes. There is some evidence that ACL injuries increased with the rise of artificial playing surfaces, which are less forgiving to the knee than grass, and it is a fact that hockey players suffer fewer ACL tears than basketball, football, or soccer players, in part because they slide along the ice rather than plant, putting less pressure on the knee.

    Then there is the genetic explanation, which has been promoted by Dr. Tarek Souryal, team physician for the Dallas Mavericks. Souryal believes the real culprit is the size of the tunnel or notch within which the ACL sits. When the notch is narrow, the ACL has no maneuverability; according to Souryal, people with narrow notches are 26 times more likely to suffer tears, either because the notches are too small to accommodate a normal-size ACL or because small notches lead to undersize ACLs. (Other doctors dispute this.) In fact, DeJuan Blair said he was told that his ACLs shredded for precisely this reason: They were too small. Other studies show that members of the same family often suffer ACL tears, but doctors are loath to attribute this to genetics. It may be a familial factor — namely, certain families are more athletically active than others and thus more likely to find themselves in situations where they could tear an ACL. And then there is the neurological explanation. According to this analysis, knees have two types of stability: static (the ACL or a graft) and dynamic (the quads and hams around the knee). The quads and hamstrings must fire in concert to keep the knee stable and the ACL from rotating abnormally. But sometimes the muscles don’t fire in concert. Sometimes the synchronicity is off and the muscles don’t compensate for the stress on the ligament, which is what one recent study concluded. Another study found a “latency” in the hamstrings — meaning the hammies were slow to react to a force — and concluded that this contributed to ACL “deficiency.” These studies are especially relevant to female athletes, who are so much more likely to suffer ACL tears than men. The reasons, again, are variable: small notches; a skeletal structure that angles knees inward, especially upon landing after a jump, and inclines tibiae backward where they are less able to take stress; even hormones. The only upside, says Russ Paine, is that, at least anecdotally speaking, women seem to rehab better than men do because, Paine attests, they are just plain tougher in the training room.

    The Brain Problem

    None of this explains, however, why there seem to be more ACL tears than there used to be. And, naturally, there are a whole lot of theories about that, too. Some blame expanded rosters — it used to be that anyone with a compromised ACL would have been weeded out long before arriving at the NBA or NFL. Some blame training. DeJuan Blair thinks that “a lot of people don’t work on their legs,” especially point guards, who are suffering the bulk of the NBA’s ACL tears. They work on their quickness instead. Kevin Wilk, a trainer who has worked closely with Dr. Andrews, agrees about preparation. He has said that NFL players may show up to camp in good condition, but not in football shape, and the shorter training camps only contribute to the problem. In any case, no surgeon or therapist I spoke to knew of a professional football or basketball team that worked on planting drills to diminish ACL stress. Some blame the new NFL rules that force tacklers to aim low rather than high, meaning more hits to the knees. Some blame the evolution of the games themselves. Knicks swingman Iman Shumpert, who suffered an ACL tear, told Ken Berger of cbssports.com, “You watch Bob Cousy and them — they’re running straight lines. Now you’ve got all these crossovers, you’ve got Eurosteps, you’ve got guys like James Harden scooping the ball and making their body scoop low before it comes up. We’re putting different types of stress on our bodies.”

    But there is something else that may help account for the increase. Doctors and trainers call it “proprioception.” Proprioception is how an individual perceives the relationship of the various parts of his or her body to time and space. It is a mind-body issue. Your proprioception is what allows your brain to coordinate everything, including your muscles and ligaments, so you can function smoothly. But proprioception requires instantaneous reactions, and it can be off, especially when a body faces new challenges and stresses, as an athlete’s generally does.

    Proprioception is the reason, according to Dr. Brian Cole, why ACL tears almost never occur when an athlete is practicing by himself or is on the court or field in isolation, but almost always while reacting to an opposing player. (Even Reggie Wayne’s cut was anticipatory.) Proprioception requires a player to predict where his body should be in relation to that opponent. When a basketball or football player fails to accurately predict his position in space, when the brain doesn’t send an accurate signal to the joints, the knee is likely to be in a compromised position and the ACL cannot adjust. And as athletes have gotten bigger, faster, and stronger, and as the games have required more deception, proprioception has had to become much more sophisticated. So it’s not just the ligament that fails — it’s our whole personal navigation system. In a sense, we are victims of ourselves, which makes ACL tears not only a physical challenge but also a metaphysical one.

    The Future

    Kaya Turski doesn’t much resemble Adrian Peterson or DeJuan Blair. She is a sprite, only 5-foot-5 and slight of stature — things that help her fly through the air, which is what she does. Turski happens to be the five-time world slopestyle skiing champion. She is the woman at the very apex of her sport, which will be included next February in the Olympics for the first time. And if she is a revolutionary in her sport, she is also a revolutionary in ACL surgery.

    By now, you’ve probably guessed that Kaya has suffered an ACL tear. Actually, she has suffered a few. She got the first after she was recovering from a pancreatic injury in 2007. Just 14 days after she got back on her skis, she was training in New Zealand when she attempted a 50-foot jump, landed, and felt her right knee give. “It’s crazy how loud that pop is,” she remembers. And she knew immediately that her ACL was gone. As it turned out, her MCL and LCL were, as well. But she had a hamstring graft, went through a grueling rehab, and returned to the slopes nine months later. Kaya Turski The second came in April 2010 when she was making her third run in a competition she had already won and was attempting a new trick — a two-and-a-half forward rotation. As soon as she landed, she knew her left knee had gone. But once again she came back, and she felt stronger than ever. Then came the third, just last August while she was training in Oregon and lost her bearings in the air during yet another trick. She was just six months out from the Olympics, where she would have been a favorite to medal.

    If she’d had normal reconstructive surgery, there would have been no hope of her returning in time for Sochi. She considered competing without her ACL. But instead she did research and came up with an idea: She proposed getting a synthetic graft. Synthetic grafts had been pretty much discredited, in part because while they might work in the short run, they invariably fail in the long run. Still, she knew it was her only chance, and Dr. Litchfield, recommended to her by a fellow skier, reluctantly agreed — because Turski told him the Olympics were likely to be her swan song, and it didn’t matter to her if the graft held afterward. But he agreed with a proviso. He would wrap the synthetic ligament in an allograft, a ligament from a cadaver, so that Turski would have a chance of avoiding a revision surgery after she retired. It is, to her knowledge, the first time this has ever been done.

    The fate of her allograft remains to be seen, but Turski is, in her way, even more phenomenal than Adrian Peterson, who at least had eight months of rehab. She doesn’t have that luxury. She just has those six months — which would be a record for recovery. She says everything is moving in “fast forward.” Just three months out from the tear, she is already jumping and expects to be on the snow early this month. The key, she says, is that she couldn’t afford to give in to the gremlin. She had to resist it. But she has conquered it — three times — and now she and her ACL have declared an Olympic truce. As Turski puts it, “As long as the knee cooperates, I feel good about my chances.”

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    http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2015/T/Darrell-Williams
    Darrell Williams
    School: South Florida
    Position: T
    Bio: Two-year starter at left tackle.
    Positive: Tall, athletic tackle prospect with a good amount of upside potential. Quick off the snap, patient in pass protection and effective on the second level. Sets with a wide base, works to bend his knees and effectively fights with his hands. Adjusts to oncoming linebackers and does a nice job picking up the blitz.
    Negative: Inconsistent in his all-around game. Must improve his run blocking. Struggles to finish blocks and falls off defenders.
    Analysis: After breaking into the starting lineup as a junior, Williams has shown consistent progress and is a developmental prospect with practice squad potential.

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    South Florida OT Darrell Williams
    Williams started 29 straight games at left tackle for the Bulls, and is getting a look at the Bucs’ local workout at One Buccaneer Place on Friday. Williams also has the quick feet necessary to play inside at guard and could be an undrafted free agent or a rookie mini-camp invite

    Not much on Daryl.

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    05/05/2015 – A closer look at the Rams’ nine picks: Round 7/227 – Martin Ifedi, DE, 6-3, 275, Memphis…Ended his college career as the school’s all-time leader with 22.5 sacks and also compiled 36 tackles for loss. That sacks total ranked sixth among active NCAA FBS players. A sprained MCL cost him four games at the beginning of the 2014 season, but still had 9.5 sacks in nine games played. Rams defensive line coach Mike Waufle is said to be high on him and likes his upside. – The Sports Xchange

    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Solidly-built frame and has worked hard to add weight and fill out. Good upper body strength with the length (33-inch arms) and wingspan to toss blockers and corral ballcarriers. Strong hands to finish once he makes contact, breaking down well in space to close and attack. Impressive recognition skills and ball awareness, using his eyes to locate, track and pursue. Disciplined run defender on the edges to take away the corner and contain, forcing the action back inside and allowing his teammates to make the stop. Plays with fight and works hard to stay square, not taking himself out of plays. Good play speed with a locked in motor, rallying to the football. Tough worker with mature football character and a likeable personality. Versatile experience lining up inside and outside at several defensive line positions. School’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5) as a three-year starter (31 career starts).

    WEAKNESSES: Near maxed out body type with some tweener traits. Plays tall off the snap and gives blockers a big target to block, leading to balance issues. Lacks the speed or flexibility to consistently bend and threaten the edge. Has some herky-jerky movements with below average redirection skills. Overly patient at times and seems to be thinking too much, leading to hand fighting at the point of attack. Too easy for blockers to win angles and seal him. Needs to better drive through his hips and show improved leverage shedding and tackling. Durability a question mark after a left knee injury in Sept. 2014, which caused him to miss four games and kept him from being 100-percent healthy the rest of the season.

    –Dane Brugler
    Player Overview
    One of the most versatile front four prospects in the 2015 draft, Ifedi moved all over the defensive line in college, playing the bulk of his snaps at the three- and five-technique positions. He leaves Memphis as the school’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5), but he isn’t overly dynamic and there isn’t much that separates him from others athletically. Ifedi, who is the older brother of Texas A&M OT Germain Ifedi, displays very good run recognition to make quick reads and put himself in position to make plays, using his upper body strength and eyes to be effective. His medical report and knee status are imperative to his NFL draft grade, projecting best as a left defensive end in a four-man front or as a five-technique in a 3-4 scheme.

    A two-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Ifedi has a basketball background, but started to focus on football and received moderate interest as a recruit, receiving only a few FBS offers and committing to Memphis. After redshirting in 2010 and serving as a back-up defensive tackle in 2011, Ifedi moved to the edges as a sophomore in 2012 and led the team in both tackles for loss (11.0) and sacks (7.5). He had his best statistical season in 2013 as a junior with 14.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks, earning First Team All-AAC honors. Ifedi was plagued by a knee injury in 2014 and started just nine games, but still finished second on the team in tackles for loss (9.5), adding 2.5 sacks and earning First Team All-AAC honors.

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    ACL Tear Won’t Keep Most College Athletes From Returning to Play: Study
    Recovery actually seems better for college-age players vs. younger peers, researchers say

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    ACL Tear Won’t Keep Most College Athletes From Returning to Play: Study
    FRIDAY, Sept. 26, 2014 (HealthDay News) — It’s a debilitating injury, but an ACL tear typically doesn’t mean the end of a college athlete’s career, a new study finds.

    The research suggests that the risk for a reinjury of the knee’s anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) actually goes down as athletes mature from high school into their college years.

    Researchers at the University of North Carolina report that most of the college players in the study returned to their sport after surgery to repair an ACL tear.

    However, college athletes who had suffered an ACL injury in their pre-college years were much more likely to suffer recurrent ACL trouble, compared to those who had their first such injury in college.

    The study included 89 male and female UNC athletes who’d undergone an ACL surgery, either prior to entering college or while they were collegiate athletes. Fifty-four of the patients had surgery during college, while 39 had the surgery before college.

    Both groups had nearly identical return-to-play rates — the pre-college group used 78 percent of their total playing eligibility after injury, while the college group used 77 percent.

    However, there were significant differences in their rates for ACL reinjury and reoperation.

    The pre-college group had about a 17 percent injury rate with their original ACL surgery, and they also had a 20 percent chance of suffering an ACL injury in the other knee, the study found.

    In comparison, the rate for the college athletes was about 2 percent and 11 percent, respectively.

    The reoperation rate was about 51 percent for the pre-college group and 20 percent for the college group, according to the study published Sept. 24 in the American Journal of Sports Medicine.

    “It’s very clear from our data that the younger the elite athlete, the higher risk for reinjury,” lead author Dr. Ganesh Kamath, assistant professor of orthopedics at UNC’s School of Medicine, said in a university news release.

    “It’s clear that these kids are going to get back to playing sports at a higher level, but there is something in their makeup that puts them at high risk for tearing the ACL in the same or the other knee again. Once the athlete, though, gets past adolescence, this risk seems to go way down,” Kamath said.

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    CFF Player Profile: Todd Gurley, HB

    Matt Claassen | April 10, 2015

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/10/cff-player-profile-todd-gurley-hb-2/

    Today our CFF Player Profile is going to look at our first prospect that is not expected to be drafted in the first 10 picks of the draft, and that is former Georgia running back Todd Gurley. Gurley has long been regarded as one of the best backs in the nation since his freshman year when he was named to the AP’s All-SEC team in 2012. But in a time where there hasn’t been a running back taken in the first round since 2012 and Gurley is rehabbing a knee injury, where does his draft value stand?

    Gurley’s junior year took a few twists and turns that led to him missing seven of Georgia’s games due to suspension and injury. Even though he played 239 offensive snaps in less than six full games, Gurley still put plenty on film during his half-season.

    Overview & Stats

    The first thing you notice when watching Gurley is how powerful and explosive he is as a ball-carrier. He repeatedly runs through arm tackles and picks up yards after first contact. He is capable of carrying the load and just wearing defenses down. No one will ever question Gurley’s effort as he is always fighting to finish runs. When his blocking is insufficient, his power allows him to create his own yardage better than most other players. Gurley’s average of 4 yards after contact per rush against Power 5 opponents was nearly a half-yard more than the next 2015 draft prospect, Tevin Coleman.

    While his powerful running style and size alone are great traits to boast, his speed and quickness combined with his size are what set him apart. Gurley can run defenders over, or run around them, and once he is in the open field in one-on-one situations, he has plenty of lateral agility to make defenders miss. Gurley forced no less than six missed tackles in each of his games against Power 5 defenses and on average he forced a missed tackle once every 3.2 rush attempts. Not only was that the most frequent rate in this draft class, but it was also the best in the entire nation.

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    Gurley shows good vision and can excel in both power and zone run schemes. He typically displays patience when waiting for holes to open up, but occasionally does get a little impatient. Once he locates the crease, his quick acceleration through the hole exposes defenders with poor pursuit angles and turns plays into long runs. He had a 25-plus yard run in all six games last year, and in four of the six games he had gains of at least 40 yards.

    As a receiver Gurley can be just as threatening to defenses. He didn’t have quite the same opportunity in the passing game as he did in 2013, but he caught all 12 passes thrown his way last year and still displayed the same type of playmaking ability downfield.

    As with much of the running back draft class, Gurley has room for improvement in pass protection. He allowed two hits and two hurries on 15 snaps where he stayed in to pass block during 2014. It is not enough of a weakness that would prevent him from being an immediate three-down back in the NFL, but he could use some fine tuning. He does still have two and a half years of pass blocking experience and remains one of the better blockers of the draft class.

    For most people, the biggest knock on Gurley is that he is recovering from a torn ACL. Anymore, many athletes bounce back fine after knee injuries and recovery times seemingly continue to improve. However, not everyone is as fortunate and recovery times will vary depending on the person. When training camp opens in July, he will be just eight months removed from the injury, and roughly 10 months by the time the regular season opens.

    Beyond the knee injury, he also missed games in 2013 due to an ankle injury. Is there a major concern about his durability? No. But it is a small piece of the puzzle, especially for a punishing back like Gurley. The silver lining behind the injuries, though, is that he enters the NFL without a massive workload in college and less wear and tear than a lot of prior prospects of his caliber.

    There’s no question that Gurley is the most physically gifted running back in the draft. His speed to go along with his size and strength is a combination we haven’t seen in a prospect for a few years. Without the injury he is worthy of a first-round draft pick. Despite the injury, he should still be in consideration for teams at the bottom of the round that need a running back. Even if it is assumed that he could potentially miss games or have a limited impact in his first year, that is just one of up to five seasons they could have a potential franchise running back on a rookie contract.

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    Andrew Donnal NFL Draft 2015: Scouting Report, Grade for Rams Rookie
    By Team Stream Now , B/R Video May 2, 2015

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2415138-andrew-donnal-nfl-draft-2015-scouting-report-grade-for-rams-rookie
    STRENGTHS

    A grinder at right tackle, Andrew Donnal has the technique and motor you want in a prospect. Donnal is technically smart with a strong, hard burst coming out of the snap. He’s a fighter who looks for contact in the run game, and he shows good hand placement when locking on to defenders. As you’d expect from an Iowa player, Donnal is a well-coached, pro-ready player. He has the length to affect the passing game and can play guard or right tackle in both power- and zone-blocking schemes. Donnal’s instincts are developed, and he won’t get caught waiting or guessing on what to do off the ball.

    WEAKNESSES

    Donnal wasn’t invited to the Shrine Game or the Senior Bowl, but he was a combine invite. He’s a lean player with a narrow, skinny base and must add power in his foundation to be a better run-blocker at the next level. He’ll struggle to anchor against a bull rush and hasn’t shown the agility to reset his feet and redirect in pass pro.

    PRO COMPARISON: Sam Baker, Atlanta Falcons

    Donnal may be limited as an athlete, but his strength and technique are good enough for him to play in the NFL for a long time. His upside is comparable to Sam Baker’s, and they’re similar athletes too.

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    Andrew Donnal, OT
    School: Iowa | Conference: BIG10
    College Experience: Senior | Hometown: Monclova, OH
    Height/Weight: 6-6 / 313 lbs.
    Projected Ranking
    Overall Position Proj. Rnd.
    217 19 6

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737214/andrew-donnal

    Player Lowdown
    Combine Results
    40 Yd 20 Yd 10 Yd 225 Bench Vertical jump Broad Shuttle 3-Cone Drill
    5.31 3.14 1.92 17 32 8’5″ 4.77 7.84
    Workout Results
    40 Yd 20 Yd 10 Yd 225 Bench Vertical jump Broad Shuttle 3-Cone Drill
    – – – 23 – – – 7.51
    Strengths Weaknesses
    STRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size. Adequate athlete and set-up quickness. Prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body. Fundamentally sound and well-coached. Uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can. Always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes. Doesn?t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap. Impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man. Often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler. Buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft. Team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.

    WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth. Narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue. Can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers. Forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time. Engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles. Needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level. Hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making. Impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist. Only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts). Some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.

    –Dane Brugler
    Player Overview
    Brandon Scherff and Donnal both arrived at Iowa as part of the 2010 Hawkeyes recruiting class, which was also the last year the school produced two offensive tackle picks in the same NFL Draft (Bryan Bulaga, Kyle Calloway). Scherff and Donnal both suffered serious injuries in 2012, but Scherff rebounded quickly and became an All-American. Donnal wasn?t as lucky, but finally got his chance to be the starter in 2014 and started every game at right tackle, limiting mistakes and showing consistent improvement. He has good initial quickness, but struggles to keep that same lateral momentum in his kickslide to cut off speed, forcing him to lunge and overextend at the waist. Donnal shows very little semblance of a punch, but takes pride in his technique and has the work ethic and attitude that makes him compatible with NFL coaches and a possible late round developmental option.

    A four-star offensive tackle recruit out of high school, Andrew Donnal narrowed his college choice to Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, Virginia and Iowa, committing the Hawkeyes and redshirting in 2010. He saw limited snaps as a redshirt freshman in 2011 and filled in as a starter at right guard for three games in 2012 before suffering a season-ending injury. Donnal was a versatile back-up in 2013 as a junior as he recovered from injury, but didn?t start any games. He took over the right tackle duties as a senior and started all 13 games in 2014, earning All-Big Ten Honorable Mention honors.

    Player News
    05/05/2015 – The Rams then followed up on the third day by picking Iowa tackle Andrew Donnal in the fourth round and Fresno State guard Cody Wichmann in the sixth round. Donnal is yet another Rams pick that suffered a torn ACL although his was during the 2012 season. He had played in the first four games of the season and then became a starter at right guard. Early in that third start, he tore the ACL, but was able to come back to play in the season opener the next season. He didn’t start at all in 2013, but played at both guard and tackle. Last season, he started all 13 games at right tackle, and rarely missed a snap.

    Donnal also fits what the Rams were looking for in their linemen. After being asked to describe himself, he said, “I view myself as a blue-collar grinder. I’m a guy that’s going to come out and work my ass off every day to be the best that I can possibly be. I thoroughly enjoy juts playing football, being an offensive lineman and moving the guy from point A to point B against his will. Protecting the quarterback and mauling inside. There’s nothing better.” As Fisher said of the draft haul, “It’s been a long time coming, particularly because of the needs. After Todd, our focus went to the big guys. All of them finish; that’s the thing we really like. They’re downfield, they’re pushing people over piles, they’re aggressive and they’re finishing. As Les (general manager Les Snead) said about Cody, ‘If you’re somewhere in the vicinity, he’s gonna hit you.’ There’s some contact involved, and that’s the mindset that we need to carry forward. But it’s also not something that we have to teach; it’s the way they play right now.” When it was suggested that the Rams made as many choices as they did on the line hoping that some work out, Fisher took exception to that notion. “We didn’t throw darts now,” he said. “We think these guys can play.” – The Sports Xchange

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    Andrew Donnal to St. Louis Rams: Full Draft-Pick Breakdown
    By Steven Gerwel , Featured Columnist May 2, 2015

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    The final day of the 2015 NFL draft is underway. With the No. 119 pick in the fourth round, the St. Louis Rams selected Iowa offensive lineman Andrew Donnal.

    St. Louis’ strategy for this draft was to repair the offense, particularly the offensive line and run game. Without a doubt, the Rams have delivered.

    They used the No. 10 pick on elite running back Todd Gurley. That was St. Louis’ luxury pick, and Gurley finally gives Jeff Fisher a true workhorse back. What Eddie George was to Fisher’s Tennessee Titans, Gurley will be expected to be for the Rams.

    However, the Gurley pick will be wasted if the run blocking does not improve. For that reason, St. Louis has used the majority of its picks on linemen.

    The team grabbed Wisconsin tackle Rob Havenstein in Round 2 and Louisville lineman Jamon Brown in the third round.

    Donnal is yet another guy capable of stepping in and competing for playing time in training camp.

    The Rams also selected quarterback Sean Mannion in Round 3, so this draft has been entirely dedicated to the offense.

    As much as that must kill a defensive coach like Fisher, it was a necessary strategy.

    How Andrew Donnal Fits in With the Rams

    The selections of Havenstein and Brown were all about finding immediate contributors capable of boosting the ground game.

    Both players will step in and immediately create run lanes for Gurley and Tre Mason. With no elite receivers and a mediocre passing attack, the Rams will need a high-end rushing game to become competitive on offense.

    Still, the Rams were in need of a guy capable of keeping new Rams quarterback Nick Foles upright. Donnal should be that guy.

    He is not a mauler in the run game. He’s not incompetent in that area, but he lacks the raw strength and athleticism to push around NFL defensive linemen.

    On the plus side, he possesses great size (6’6″, 313 pounds) and uses his mechanics to best defenders. He’s a capable pass-blocker and doesn’t get overrun by pass-rushing ends. He’ll keep Foles upright and clean.

    Donnal will require some development before he’s totally confident at the NFL level, but that’s not a major issue.

    He was a 13-game starter at right tackle for Iowa last season. He doesn’t have much starting experience prior to 2014, but he received playing time at both tackle and guard before taking over as a starter.

    Havenstein will take over the right tackle position. As a second-round pick, he’ll be expected to step in and start from day one.

    As for the opening at left guard, it’s likely that Donnal and Brown will duke it out. Brown has more experience than Donnal and should be the favorite, but that will be settled on the practice field.

    David J. Phillip/Associated Press

    Initial Reaction and Grade for Donnal Pick

    The Rams are returning just two starters from the 2014 line (Greg Robinson, Rodger Saffold). Drafting a third offensive lineman might seem like overkill, but it really isn’t. It was a necessary blueprint for this year’s draft.

    The Rams cannot simply assume that Havenstein and Brown will excel and immediately develop into starters. There’s strength in numbers, so St. Louis knew it had to add another lineman to increase competition.

    Also, it’s not about the starters alone. The Rams are also in need of depth on the line. Even if Donnal doesn’t win a starting job, he’ll provide some promising depth.

    The St. Louis offensive line has been held back in recent years by injured and aging veterans. The Rams needed young, healthy bodies for the offensive line, and they’ve accomplished that.

    Grade: A-

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    Former Titans running back Eddie George, who played eight seasons for Jeff Fisher on the Oilers and Titans, joined The Imig, Montez and Moe Show on Friday. The Rams’ drafting Todd Gurley in the first round of this year’s draft drew many comparisons to Fisher selecting George in the 1990s. George talked about Gurley and Fisher along with several other Rams-related topics.

    http://www.insidestl.com/insideSTLcom/STLSports/STLRams/tabid/137/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/17574/Eddie-George-Analyzes-Rams-Todd-Gurley-Pick-Talks-Playing-for-Jeff-Fisher-and-His-Philosophy.aspx

    What was your reaction to the Rams taking Todd Gurley?

    “Actually, I was a bit surprised. I thought it was a great pick for Jeff. I know the type of player he’s looking to have, that he needs to have in the backfield to be a bell-ringer for him and the type philsophy that we wants.”

    How will Gurley affect the Rams?

    “I think now he can really make a serious run in that division with the type of back Gurley is, provided he stays healthy…and really how Nick Foles comes into the whole mix. I’m really excited to see what Jeff has been building the last three years. Every year he’s done an outstanding job of bringing it together for the draft.”

    Have you been able to talk to Jeff Fisher about the draft?

    “I haven’t had a chance as of yet. The last couple of years I’ve texted him to let him know he’s done an outstanding job. This year in particular I just said ‘Great pick, you got a beast of a running back.’ I’m pretty sure we’ll have a chance to talk…I may come down and check him out during training camp.”

    Fisher said he envisions Gurley kind of like a St. Louis version of you at running back. Thoughts on those comments?

    “Ironically enough, I was watching a game last year with Todd playing on CBS…and he was an absolute monster and throughout the telecast they compared him to me. The speed and soforth and I can definitely see that. He has the ability to beat you up in between the tackles, but he creates his own space. He can set up his blocks, he has excellent vision, excellent feet. His runs after content…that’s what you want to see. If he can stay healthy, he can be a Pro Bowl running back.”

    What can you say about Fisher that has made him a mainstay coach in the NFL?

    “I think slow and steady wins the race. He’s not going out getting the sexy draft picks (just to excite the fan base). He’s going to build household names. We’re so enamored with quick results and winning it right now. It takes time to build a championship team. You’ve got to be patient. Our first three or four years (in Tennessee), we were 8-18. We were a vagabond team, we didn’t have a home. Then we turned the corner and put together some great wins. I think that’s the same formula he’s applying to the St. Louis Rams. I think he’s on the trajectory of putting together a playoff-caliber team that you guys will appreciate.”

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    Russell Wilson contract talk: Just negotiating as usual or something to worry about?

    Bob Condotta
    May 7, 2015

    http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/seahawks/russell-wilson-contract-talk-just-negotiating-as-usual-or-something-to-worry-about/

    Russell Wilson’s contract is suddenly the subject of a lot of conversation. But the time to worry about it getting done is still a ways away.

    Maybe it’s because Seattle doesn’t have a basketball team that could be on a long playoff run right about now to talk about anymore. Or maybe it’s because the Mariners are stumbling out of the gate and everybody really wants to avoid talking about that

    Whatever the case, discussion of Russell Wilson’s contract extension suddenly dominated all the radio talk shows in Seattle Thursday thanks to a couple of different statements and recent reports.

    Jason La Confora of CBSSports.com, for instance, said on KJR-AM this morning that Wilson and the Seahawks are “nowhere close” to a deal. That came after John Clayton of ESPN said earlier in the week that Seattle is believed to have offered $80 million for four years (which is included in this well-done examination of the issue from Danny O’Neil of 710 ESPN Seattle).

    All of that led to much talk show and social media discussion Thursday and attendant speculation about where this goes next.

    As O’Neil notes, it was easy to think this deal would be done, well, easily since the Seahawks have a recent track record of getting contract extensions signed, sealed and delivered almost before anyone knew negotiations had even begun (think Kam Chancellor, Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman, among others).

    But Wilson’s is the kind of contract the Seahawks have never dealt with before, and he’s in one of the more advantageous situations of any player in recent NFL history as a winner of a Super Bowl at such a young age. This was destined to take some time.

    So the question is whether some of the back and forth — Pete Carroll saying on ESPN last weekend that the team was waiting to hear from Wilson’s side and Wilson responding with a Tweet that he’d rather patiently wait than rush into something that isn’t best for his life — is just what should be expected at this point, or something more?

    If the reports of Seattle’s offer are true, well it only makes some sense that the Seahawks would start off low, especially early in the negotiations. And if the rumblings that Wilson wants the moon — or more specific, a contract that would pay him as much as anybody in the NFL, which has been rumored for months now — then that makes sense, too.

    Russell Wilson didn’t overcome what he has to get to where he is by not having a mammoth belief in himself and his abilities and that’s not something he should be expected to just set aside once it comes to contracts. If he thinks he can be as good as any quarterback in NFL history — which he has said is his goal — then he shouldn’t really be blamed for wanting to get paid like it.

    John Schneider’s comment earlier this year about thinking “outside the box” was widely interpreted as Wilson being willing to take less money to help the Seahawks for salary cap reasons. But I’m not sure that’s really what Schneider meant — or certainly, not quite as concretely as many seemed to take it, that Wilson would voluntarily take a less-than-market deal because that’s what the team wants. Being willing to do things structurally to help the team is different than just waving goodbye to millions of dollars.

    While Seahawks’ fans may have grown accustomed to these things getting done early and easily, expectations may simply have to change for this one.

    The reality is that the situation is nowhere yet near urgent.

    Each side would probably like this done by the time training camp begins — which will likely be around July 31 or so.

    Wilson, if all the reports are true about being willing to play out the season and see what happens, may have a lot more time on his side in this than the Seahawks.

    But the Seahawks still have time, as well.

    If it gets to August and nothing is then, then that might be the time to worry.

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    http://uscenterforsportsmedicine.com/how-long-will-it-take-my-anterior-cruciate-ligament-injury-to-heal/

    6 months is the benchmark for returning from this injury. of course. this guy also says it takes up to a year for the knee to regain full strength.

    How Long Will It Take My Anterior Cruciate Ligament Injury to Heal?
    October 4, 2011
    The importance of the ACL (anterior cruciate ligament) to knee stability can not be overstated. Next in line for importance is proper rehabilitation after an ACL injury and surgery.

    Let’s start with the basics.

    The ACL is responsible for keeping your knee from sliding or twisting behind your hamstring. If the ACL is torn it pops and your knee begins to wobble. (See the seven simple tests to determine if you’ve torn your ACL.) The pain is excruciating.

    Unfortunately, even though ACL injuries are common, women ages 14 to 30 are five times more than likely to suffer from an ACL injury. The reason why is not understood fully. It could be anatomy or estrogen levels or proper strength training.

    An exact rehabilitation and recovery program from an ACL injury, especially if you’ve opted for reconstructive surgery, will vary from doctor to doctor and therapist to therapist

    You can expect to be back at the sport in about six months. It’s best not to expect anytime sooner than that, unless you hit your benchmarks early.

    Your first benchmark is to take care of the pain and swelling. Next it’s vitally important to protect the knee during the time it is healing from the surgery. Slowly a return in motion is something we also look for, then looking for a return in strength.

    So it’s resolving the pain and swelling, protecting the knee to heal properly, return in motion and strength are what make up a good rehabilitation program. These are the benchmarks we look for in sports medicine.

    Most of these steps we have control over. What we don’t have control over is the biology of the individual: will he heal fast or slow? Will the graft become a living part of the body again is not so much a concern as when that will happen. It differs from individual to individual.

    What’s happening is the body is trying to re-establish blood flow to the graft that has been taken from another part of your body.

    Six months is the benchmark where we can expect most athletes to be completely recovered and ready to play again. Some doctors will be aggressive with the rehabilitation and try and get the athlete back on the field in two or three months.

    So much of that depends upon the athletes desire and how his or her body responds to the graft and the recovery program. The knee has to be strong enough and the full range of motion must have returned, as well as a dramatic reduction and even elimination of pain and swelling. If these benchmarks aren’t hit then the doctor and athlete need to be patient because the threat of re-injury is very real.

    Of course six weeks after the surgery your knee may be healthy and strong enough, although not optimally at the strength target, that the risk of re-injury is not a worry and you could return to playing at that point.

    I don’t fully recommend, however, doing this, but at the eight week the knee may be healed enough that I wouldn’t be worried about re-injury as much. Still, the longer the knee can be given to heal the stronger it will be and the less likely you will re-injure it.

    In fact, your new knee ligament continues to heal for up to a year, meaning it won’t be as strong at nine months as it will be at twelve months. The longer you wait, the better.

    But you can make a personal decision, along with the advice of your therapist, doctor and coach, of returning to the game in two months. You may not be up to your original performance standards pre-ACL surgery at this point, but in good enough shape to play.

    Dr. Rick Lehman is a distinguished orthopedic surgeon in St. Louis, Missouri and an articular cartilage reconstruction pioneer He owns U. S. Sports Medicine in Kirkwood, MO, and LehmanHealth. Learn more about Dr. Rick.

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    Rams’ war-room drama reveals team on a familiar track

    By Michael Silver

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000490604/article/st-louis-rams-warroom-drama-reveals-team-on-a-familiar-track

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — At certain uncomfortable junctures throughout his 20-year career as an NFL head coach, Jeff Fisher has had to adapt to circumstance, reshaping his offense as a pass-heavy attack, or one that takes advantage of a quarterback’s mobility.

    Yet the times when Fisher’s teams have been most effective — the times when the man with the sublime ‘stache has been most at peace with his situation — have coincided with the presence of an elite, eminently productive running back. When Fisher coached the Titans to Super Bowl XXXIV, and later to the 2002 AFC Championship Game, the ultra-physical Eddie George was the offensive focal point. Tennessee’s romp to the 2008 AFC South title, meanwhile, was fueled by the emergence of rookie speedster Chris Johnson.

    And Friday night, for the first time in the three years and three months that have passed since Fisher took over as the St. Louis Rams’ coach and top football decision-maker, he exuded a deep-seated satisfaction impossible to ignore — that of a man who feels his team will play football the way he prefers it, with no ambiguity about its mission.

    As he sat in his office following the second day of the 2015 NFL Draft, leaning back in a cushy chair while sipping a glass of bold red wine, Fisher didn’t shy away from statements that might sound like hyperbole to some: Former Georgia star Todd Gurley, the swift and powerful runner he’d taken 10th overall in Thursday night’s first round, is “a once-every-10-year back” who, along with the upgrades made to the offensive line in Rounds 2 (former Wisconsin tackle Rob Havenstein) and 3 (ex-Louisville guard Jamon Brown), will change the Rams’ offensive identity.

    “We’re trying to become more physical on offense,” Fisher said. “We did that today. We got two guys who are gonna go downfield and finish blocks — and clear space for that guy we got last night to do what he does. It’s not complicated: Hand it off, run play-action passes, get the ball out quickly, keep your defense off the field.”

    Or, as secondary coach and former collision-happy NFL safety Chuck Cecil had put it about 20 minutes earlier: “We’re gonna be going old-school on ’em.”

    Fisher has, along with general manager Les Snead, already assembled an aggressive defense — led by a star-studded stable of pass rushers and run-lane-cloggers up front. The coach believes he now has a suitably relentless offense to go with it. With a new quarterback in Nick Foles, acquired in a March trade with the Philadelphia Eagles for injury-prone passer Sam Bradford, Fisher isn’t looking for big fantasy numbers or cutting-edge passing concepts. Rather, he and newly promoted offensive coordinator Frank Cignetti, who replaced Brian Schottenheimer after the 2014 season, will be quite comfortable handing the rock to Gurley and letting him grind his way down the field.

    On paper, the Rams are bucking a trend. As the NFL becomes increasingly pass-centric, teams consistently unearth short-term answers at running back from later rounds and productive veterans struggle to get lucrative, long-term contracts, the Death of the Marquee Running Back has become a trendy talking point. In fairness, it’s not just talk: No running back was selected in the first round of the 2013 or 2014 drafts, with Gurley and Wisconsin’s Melvin Gordon (who went 15th overall to the Chargers) breaking the ignominious streak on Thursday.

    Going all-in with Gurley, who tore his ACL last November, could be construed as a gamble. When I interviewed the newest Rams runner Friday on NFL Network, he expressed confidence in his recovery, and his new bosses obviously feel similarly. Fisher and Snead locked in on him as their top target midway through April and sweated out the draft’s first nine picks before happily pouncing.

    A couple of weeks before the draft, in an act that was part superstition and part subterfuge, Fisher moved Gurley’s player card well below his actual slot on the draft board in the team’s war room, placing him in the second-round range. “At that point,” Fisher said, “(our interest in him) was on a need-to-know basis.”

    That set up quite the draft-room scene Thursday: After the Giants selected Miami guard Ereck Flowers with the ninth overall pick, Fisher instructed Sean Gustus, the area scout who’d given the initial grade on Gurley, to put the magnetic card “where it really belongs” on the draft board.

    Gustus, Fisher recalled, “tried to stick it on the ceiling,” as the scouts, coaches and other team officials in his midst broke out in celebratory laughter.
    St. Louis Rams’ 2015 NFL Draft

    Round 1, Pick 10 (10): Todd Gurley, RB, Georgia

    Round 2, Pick 25 (57): Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin

    Round 3, Pick 8 (72): Jamon Brown, OT, Louisville

    Round 3, Pick 25 (89): Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon St.

    Round 4, Pick 20 (119): Andrew Donnal, OT, Iowa

    Round 6, Pick 25 (201): Bud Sasser, WR, Missouri

    Round 6, Pick 39 (215): Cody Wichmann, G, Fresno St.

    Round 7, Pick 7 (224): Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor

    Round 7, Pick 10 (227): Martin Ifedi, DE, Memphis

    Predictably, there were no dissenters. Snead, who’d been speaking glowingly about Gurley since the runner’s true freshman season, put it thusly: “When you’d pick out a game and watch his film, it was like watching a highlight reel. He just kept doing special things, play after play.”

    Said Fisher: “If it weren’t for the injury, he probably wouldn’t be a Ram. Because in everybody’s opinion, he was a top two or three pick. When they say running backs don’t have value anymore, that’s not the case when it’s a once-every-10-year back. That was the consensus in the building, and it was basically the consensus around the league.”

    For all of the Rams’ rich history at the position — which includes Hall of Famers Eric Dickerson, Jerome Bettis and Marshall Faulk, as well as another current St. Louis scout, Lawrence McCutcheon, who got especially fired up in the war room as Gurley’s card was pulled — they haven’t ranked in the top half of the NFL in rushing yardage for the past 15 years. Tre Mason, selected in the third round last year, showed promise as a rookie, which will allow Fisher the luxury of easing Gurley back from his injury. Mason projects as the clear No. 2 behind Gurley; third-year pro Zac Stac was traded — he had requested the move — to the New York Jets on Saturday.

    There was plenty of drama in the war room Friday night, as the Rams — who had a cluster of offensive linemen stacked in the second-round range and were thus open to trading down — fielded a fast and furious barrage of trade offers for their second-round pick (41st overall).

    For five-and-a-half minutes, the room resembled a Jerry Lewis-sponsored telethon, with president Kevin Demoff, Snead and Fisher fielding simultaneous calls from teams making offers — and in some cases, ringing back with sweetened trade proposals.

    “I’ve never seen (a war room) quite that crazy,” Fisher said later.

    The Chiefs, Eagles, Texans, Steelers and Panthers all offered trade-down prospects, and the Cowboys called to gauge the market before bowing out. With four-and-a-half minutes on the clock, Fisher chose the Panthers’ deal. The Rams got Carolina’s second-round pick (57th overall), along with selections in the third and sixth round, and hoped one of the linemen they liked would last another 16 spots.

    Mission accomplished: Four of the linemen the Rams coveted were there for the taking when the Rams went on the clock at 57, and after much back-and-forth at the board (with offensive line coach Paul Boudreau and assistant line coach Andy Dickerson joining Fisher, Snead and Demoff in the discussion), it was decided Havenstein would be the choice.

    “We got a road-grader, boys,” Fisher announced triumphantly. “A big-ass road grader.”

    Or maybe they hadn’t: With a phone at his ear, Demoff informed Fisher that the Buccaneers were offering a trade prospect in which the Rams would move down eight spots (receiving the first pick of the third round) and swap a sixth-round pick for Tampa Bay’s fourth-rounder. After a quick discussion, Fisher decided to take the deal.

    Moments later, Demoff called the Bucs back, only to learn that they had chosen to rescind the offer.

    Gesturing toward Boudreau, Fisher said, “OK, this guy can exhale now. Get him a glass of wine.”

    To the delight of Fisher and Boudreau, Brown — another of the linemen being discussed as the possible second-round choice — was still there when the team’s third-round selection (72nd overall) rolled around. (And the Rams — who later took ex-Oregon State quarterback Sean Mannion with the third-round pick acquired from the Panthers — weren’t done beefing up the line; they selected former Iowa tackle Andrew Donnal in the fourth round and ex-Fresno State guard Cody Wichmann in the sixth round Saturday.)

    On Friday night, as he rocked back and forth in the chair behind his desk, Fisher was the emblem of serenity and satisfaction. After three seasons in which the Rams have shown occasional promise but lacked consistency — and were unable to overcome the damage inflicted by season-ending knee injuries to Bradford — Fisher has heard the noise that he is in a win-or-else situation for 2015.

    Logic suggests this is in fact the case: Fisher’s teams have gone 7-8-1, 7-9 and 6-10 since he arrived in St. Louis, and with a possible move to Los Angeles looming, there’s a lot of uncertainty about the future.

    Fisher, however, isn’t carrying himself like a coach worried about his job security.

    “I think this reflects a stability in the organization,” he said of Gurley’s selection. “You know, we’re not impatient. We’re going to bring him along and make sure he’s ready to go and then hand him that little brown thing a bunch.”

    For this coach, at this moment, nothing could be more fulfilling.

    #23760
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    Brugler:
    18. MARTIN IFEDI | Memphis
    2010: Redshirted
    6031|275 lbs|5SR Houston, Texas (Westside HS) 9/4/1991 (age 23) #97 GRADE 6th-7th Round
    MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 7/8 | Hand: 10 | Wingspan: 81 3/8
    COMBINE 40-YD: 4.88 | 10-YD: 1.68 | 20-YD: 2.83 | BP: 16 | VJ: 31 | BJ: 09’03” | SS: 4.58 | 3C: 7.39 PRO DAY BP: 17
    PRONUNCIATION eh-FED-EE
    2011: (12/0) 2012: (12/10) 2013: (12/12) 2014: (9/9) Total: (45/31)
    13/1.0/1.0/1/1 46/11.0/7.5/2/0 52/14.5/11.5/1/0 29/9.5/2.5/0/1 140/36.0/22.5/4/2

    BACKGROUND: A two-star defensive end recruit out of high school, Ifedi has a basketball background, but started to focus on football and received moderate interest as a recruit, receiving only a few FBS offers and committing to Memphis. After redshirting in 2010 and serving as a back-up defensive tackle in 2011, Ifedi moved to the edges as a sophomore in 2012 and led the team in both tackles for loss (11.0) and sacks (7.5). He had his best statistical season in 2013 as a junior with 14.5 tackles for loss and 11.5 sacks, earning First Team All-AAC honors. Ifedi was plagued by a knee injury in 2014 and started just nine games, but still finished second on the team in tackles for loss (9.5), adding 2.5 sacks and earning First Team All-AAC honors. He earned an invitation to the 2015 East-West Shrine Game.

    STRENGTHS: Solidly-built frame and has worked hard to add weight and fill out…good upper body strength with the length and wingspan to toss blockers and cage ballcarriers…strong hands to finish once he makes contact, breaking down well in space to close and attack…impressive recognition skills and ball awareness, using his eyes to locate, track and pursue…disciplined run defender on the edges to take away the corner and contain, forcing the action back inside and allowing his teammates to make the stop…plays with fight and works hard to stay square, not taking himself out of plays…good play speed with a locked in motor, rallying to the football…tough worker with mature football character and a likeable personality…versatile experience lining up inside and outside at several defensive line positions…school’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5) as a three-year starter (31 career starts).

    WEAKNESSES: Near maxed out body type with some tweener traits…plays tall off the snap and gives blockers a big target to block, leading to balance issues…lacks the speed or flexibility to consistently bend and threaten the edge…has some herky-jerky movements with below average redirection skills…overly patient at times and seems to be thinking too much, leading to hand fighting at the point of attack – too easy for blockers to win angles and seal him…needs to better drive through his hips and show improved leverage shedding and tackling…durability a question mark after a left knee injury in Sept. 2014, which caused him to miss four games and kept him from being 100% healthy the rest of the season.

    SUMMARY: A versatile prospect, Ifedi was moved all over the defensive line in college, playing the bulk of his snaps at the three- and five-technique positions. He leaves Memphis as the school’s all-time leader in sacks (22.5), but he isn’t overly dynamic and there isn’t much that separates him from others athletically. Ifedi, who is the older brother of Texas A&M offensive lineman Germain Ifedi, displays very good run recognition to make quick reads and put himself in position to make plays, using his upper body strength and eyes to be effective. His medical report and knee status are imperative to his NFL draft grade, projecting best as a left defensive end in a four-man front or as a five-technique defensive end in a 3-4 scheme.

    #23746
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    Arizona Cards: A

    The cards filled areas of need while acquiring more picks in a trade down. The problem is they didn’t address their biggest area of need and that was their defensive line. I know Darnell Dockett was injured last season and it showed. So, not replacing him isn’t about having confidence in who replaced him. That crew didn’t get it done when it counted. And as the NFC West reloads, that DL will be woefully undermanned for the pounding that’s coming.

    St. Louis Rams: A+

    Drafting the kind of talent that they are doing is getting to be a Rams tradition. Quinn, Donald…Gurley. These guys are transformative and it won’t be long before it hits a tipping point. We’ve already beaten Conference champs with backup QBs and that’s before adding Gurley. Remember, the Vikes had a 1000yd runner in Taylor when they drafted AP and were lampooned for it. No, Gurley is transformative and it will show. Soon. The OL the Rams drafted do a number of things. They maul. They do NOT hold. They do NOT make stupid penalties. All of these things hurt the Rams before. Couple that with an accurate QB who works best in a run oriented offense and the Rams have the makings of dynamite.

    San Francisco 49ers: B+

    Arik Armstead is very raw. So, while he played all over on Oregon’s DL, he only flashed big plays. Is he a potentially big talent at the 5 technique like guys like Richard Seymour and JJ Watt? Yes. Is he that guy in the next 2 years? No. The 49ers will need to be patient as he develops (they will be) and their fans will need to be patient (maybe not so much). With all the defensive turnover, it will be a culture shock when teams run on this D. And it’s coming. Tartt is a box safety with range. They’ve drafted those before with mixed results, so I dunno. Eli Harold is going to a good system for him and if Aldon Smith finally has his head on straight (not something to take for granted as the young man has had issues), then he could help them reform that formidable LB core. That might help their pass rush, but that interior still needs work.

    Seattle Seahawks: D-

    What the hell? A team that runs the ball 52% of the time ships out their Pro Bowl Center for a TE/WR who doesn’t block all that well? And who the Rams have a history of totally shutting down? So, Jimmy Graham with their 1st pick, and Frank Clark with their 2nd? Frank Clark? Are they looking to make a defense or a line up? Frank Clark isn’t just a reach here, he’s a head scratcher. He’d be a reach if he were squeaky clean, so with all the character stuff, spending all that draft capital on this guy makes no sense. There’s NO WAY any other team had him higher than a fourth. Just no way. So this was just Clark and his agent getting really lucky. And the rest of the NFC because the Seahawks aren’t restocking well. At all. Tyler Lockett isn’t a bad pick. He’ll be a really nice punt/kick returner and gadget guy, but they really needed a Georgia Tech type WR, meaning a WR who loves to block. Frankly, they miss Golden Tate more than they realize and they’ve never replaced him and Lockett isn’t an attempt to. Seattle actually had needs and they did nothing to restock. That’s the sort of hubris that has a team that’s been to 2 straight Super Bowls fall way back to the pack in a hurry.

    So, did the Rams Close the Gap on the NFC West? I absolutely think they did.

    1) They have a healthy starting QB who fits what they want to do and can do it.
    2) They drafted the best RB to come out since AP and still have Tre Mason and Bennie Cunningham and Trey Watts to fill the role until Gurley is ready to step in.
    3) They drafted the RIGHT type of OL for what they want to do now that Cigs is running the offense Fisher really wants to run. I think Cigs and Fisher are SO MUCH MORE on the same page than Schotty and Fish ever were. While I think Schotty and Fish agreed in principle, I think based on smaller clues here and there from things players and what Fish has said that Fisher and Cigs are sympatico. And that’s huge going forward. It’s already made a huge difference in the draft.
    4) They got a developmental QB that if developed properly has all the tools to be someone special. Aaron Rodgers sat for awhile and I know comparing new guys to the best is dangerous, but I have a gut feeling that Mannion is “special” in that really good way. And Fisher is committed to developing him.
    5) They hired Chris Weinke. They are committed to not only developing Mannion, whom they drafted, but also improving Foles and Keenum which is important. I think they saw that it is important to continue to develop the starting QB to be successful and that requires getting a guy to do just that.

    Now, closing the gap and PASSING teams are very different things. We can close the gap by a ton and still end up with a very similar record.

    I mean we’ve got the 6th toughest schedule in the NFL based on last year’s winning percentage. We could improve everywhere and still be 7-9 or even improve to 8-8 which would be nice, but not what we’re all looking for.

    Things still have to break in our favor a bit for us to actually get to 10-6 and beyond.

    1) OL has to be healthy.
    2) Entire team has to start fast. We can’t start that first 5 game stretch 1-4. It’s a tough stretch, but we really need to go 3-2
    3) D needs to start out on fire. And I mean on fire…

    If just those 3 things happen and we are 3-2 or better, then this season looks really good to me going forward. And, frankly, I think we have a shot at that.

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #23732
    Avatar photocanadaram
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    Brugler on Donnal:

    14. ANDREW DONNAL | Iowa
    2010: Redshirted 2011: (4/0)
    6057|313 lbs|5SR Monclova, Ohio (Anthony Wayne HS) 3/3/1992 (age 23) #78
    GRADE 5th-6th Round

    MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 1/2 | Hand: 10 | Wingspan: 80 5/8

    COMBINE 40-YD: 5.31 | 10-YD: 1.92 | 20-YD: 3.14 | BP: 17 | VJ: 32 | BJ: 08’05” | SS: 4.77 | 3C: 7.84 PRO DAY BP: 23 | 3C: 7.48

    PRONUNCIATION duh-NELL

    2012: (7/3) 2013: (12/0) 2014: (13/13) Total (36/16)
    3 RG 13 RT
    13 RT, 3 RG

    BACKGROUND: A four-star offensive tackle recruit out of high school, Andrew Donnal narrowed his college choice to Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, Virginia and Iowa, committing the Hawkeyes and redshirting in 2010. He saw limited snaps as a redshirt freshman in 2011 and filled in as a starter at right guard for three games in 2012 before suffering a season-ending injury. Donnal was a versatile back-up in 2013 as a junior, but didn’t start any games. He took over the right tackle duties as a senior and started all 13 games in 2014, earning All-Big Ten Honorable Mention honors.

    STRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size…adequate athlete and set-up quickness…prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body…fundamentally sound and well-coached…uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can…always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes…doesn’t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap…impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man – often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler…buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft…team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.

    WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth…narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue…can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers…forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time…engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles…needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level…hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making…impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist…only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts)…some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.

    SUMMARY: Brandon Scherff and Donnal both arrived at Iowa as part of the 2010 Hawkeyes recruiting class, which was also the last year the school produced two offensive tackle picks in the same NFL Draft (Bryan Bulaga, Kyle Calloway). Scherff and Donnal both suffered serious injuries in 2012, but Scherff rebounded quickly and became an All-American. Donnal wasn’t as fortunate, but finally got his chance to be the starter in 2014 and started every game at right tackle, limiting mistakes and showing consistent improvement. He has good initial quickness, but struggles to keep that same lateral momentum in his kickslide to cut off speed, forcing him to lunge and overextend at the waist. Donnal shows very little semblance of a punch, but takes pride in his technique and has the work ethic and attitude that makes him compatible with NFL coaches – late round developmental option.

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    #23720
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737214/andrew-donnal

    STRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size. Adequate athlete and set-up quickness. Prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body. Fundamentally sound and well-coached. Uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can. Always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes. Doesn?t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap. Impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man. Often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler. Buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft. Team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.

    WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth. Narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue. Can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers. Forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time. Engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles. Needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level. Hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making. Impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist. Only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts). Some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.

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    Ourlads on RH:

    Three year starte at RT WHO passes the physical look test. The amount Airy, MD native was a first team All-Big 10 in 2014. Good athletic feet for a big man to seal his target by setting the edge of a defense. Knows how to use his long arms and plays with a competitive attitude. The huge tackle can lock up a pass rusher. Does a good job of sitting down, locking out, and being patient in pass protection. Projects to be a serviceable starte in the NFL at the RT position. Had a strong week at the Senior Bowl. A long and physical tackle who reminds scouts of former Eagle John Runyan. Demonstrates good lateral agility and foot movement. Has good hip flexibility placement with his initial punch. Not always explosive or powerful hip roll and extension, but gets movement with functional foot mobility and athletic ability. Physical on down defensive linemen and works to finish his blocks. Lacks the thick power producing backside to drive defenders off the ball in man blocking schemes. Must work to bend his knees because of his tall frame. Not particularly agile in space or on the second level blocking linebackers on a fast flow. OSR: 34/41. Fourth/fifth round. (A-33 5/8, H-10, BO-16, 10-1.89).

    #23601

    In reply to: Todd Gurley

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    Coming Back

    It has been three years since a running back was selected in the first round of the NFL draft; the man most likely to break that drought tore his ACL five months ago. Where Georgia’s Todd Gurley is on the road to recovery, and why his draft stock is bouncing back fast

    April 29, 2015 by Jenny Vrentas

    http://mmqb.si.com/2015/04/29/nfl-draft-todd-gurley-recovery-acl/

    Todd Gurley’s road back began with that all-too-familiar sight on football fields: player lying on the turf, clutching his knee in pain, home crowd hushed.

    This was last November in the final minutes of Georgia’s victory over Auburn, Gurley’s return from a four-game suspension for accepting $3,000 in exchange for autographing memorabilia. He had advanced the ball six yards on his last carry (1.4 below his per-carry average), and 138 yards for the game (14 below his per-game average). On his second-to-last step, though, he had planted his left leg awkwardly. With the ball still cradled in his left arm, he reached his right hand toward his knee, in pain before he even hit the ground.

    On the Georgia sideline, receiver Malcolm Mitchell cringed. He had torn his ACL one year earlier—while celebrating a 75-yard touchdown run by Gurley, of all things. He knew right away what had happened to his teammate.

    “When I saw it happen, I was terrified for him,” Mitchell says. “I knew how much coming back and playing with the team meant to him. Because of the mistake he made, a lot of opportunities got taken away from him. This was his time to shine. And he was shining.”

    Gurley was Georgia’s star running back, but his value to his teammates extended beyond the field: rounding up guys for dinner, to see a movie, to go bowling. On this night, Mitchell returned the favor. He hopped on the cart that drove Gurley off the Sanford Stadium field for the last time because he didn’t want his friend to ride alone.

    Gurley was quiet during the ride, processing the fact that one false step ended his collegiate career and left his NFL future clouded. “Before he tore his ACL, Todd Gurley was a top-5 pick, no brainer,” says one veteran NFL offensive coach.

    But despite what happened Nov. 15, and despite the fact that a running back hasn’t been taken in the first round since 2012, NFL teams don’t expect Gurley’s unusual talent and skill set to last beyond the first round Thursday night. One team that is strongly considering Gurley believes he is the best running back to come into the NFL since 2007, when Oklahoma’s Adrian Peterson went seventh overall to the Vikings.

    Mitchell stayed with Gurley while Georgia’s medical staff examined him in the locker room, doing the simple physical tests that affirmed the ACL tear. Gurley reacted calmly. He turned to his teammate and told him it was time to start rehabbing: “I gotta do what I gotta do to get back.”

    * * *

    James Andrews repaired Gurley’s knee 10 days later, Nov. 25, five months before the draft. At the time, Georgia coach Mark Richt indicated that Gurley had a clean ACL tear, meaning minimal damage to other structures in the knee such as the meniscus, which cushions the knee and protects the articular cartilage. That was good news for his recovery, and different from another elite SEC runner who suffered a major knee injury in 2012. South Carolina’s Marcus Lattimore was never able to play a game in the NFL after dislocating his knee and injuring multiple ligaments in his final college game.

    Every player’s rehab is different, but the way Gurley has progressed so far has been encouraging. About a month ago, he began doing certain kinds of field work with Anthony Hobgood, a former Ole Miss fullback and the performance coach at the EXOS training facility in Gulf Breeze, Fla. EXOS is on the campus of the Andrews Institute, where Gurley had his surgery and was doing clinical physical therapy, until he got the green light a month ago to begin full-body performance training with Hobgood.

    Their daily two-hour sessions, ongoing for the past month, have two parts: A movement session outdoors on the turf, and then a strength session in the weight room. The movement sessions rebuild the skills he’ll need to use on the football field, with a progression Hobgood explains through a baseball analogy: first you practice swinging off a tee, then you try hitting soft tosses, then you face live pitching.

    So far, Gurley has done the first two stages of movement drills. He started with technical drills like marching, skipping or practicing his running form while leaning against a wall, and doing resistance work with sleds. He has also been doing pre-programmed change of direction drills within the last month, in which he runs and shuffles between cones according to instructions given ahead of time.

    The final stage, which Gurley has not yet started, will be random movement, where he would have to change direction or accelerate in response to a stimulus, such as a command from his trainer, a flashing light or a hand clap.

    The random movement drills train players for what they’ll experience on a football field; it’s the milestone that precedes returning to practice. As of last week, Hobgood hadn’t let Gurley react to random stimuli yet, “not because he can’t,” he says, “but we don’t want to rush.” Gurley will soon be in the custody of a team that will chart the rest of his return, but based on their work, Hobgood says, Gurley would probably be moved to randomized drills in a matter of weeks.

    The first question Hobgood asks Gurley every morning is: How does your knee feel? The most important rule of thumb with ACL rehab is not to rush, and for the past month Gurley has not had any swelling or soreness in his knee as a result of their work, Hobgood says, which is a positive sign and has allowed them to move forward with the movement training. In the weight room, Gurley has been squatting, lunging and doing lower body work with heavy loads and at high speeds. When they do single-leg exercises, like a single-leg squat or a single-leg deadlift, Hobgood says Gurley is able to do the same number of reps using the same weight on his injured leg as his healthy leg.

    During his physical therapy and now performance training, Gurley ate a diet specially designed for a player rehabbing from surgery. Meals were built around lean protein and priority fats (found in avocado and olive oil) that aid the healing process, and aimed to include vegetables of three different colors—dark leafy greens for muscles and bones, red or orange for the heart and circulatory system and white to boost the immune system. He also took daily fish oil supplements and mixed in papaya or pineapple, all of which aid in managing inflammation.

    “Where he’s at in his recovery, he’s doing absolutely incredible. You could easily say he’s ahead of schedule, but at the same time, we are going to let time do its thing,” Hobgood says. “I don’t want to put a timeline on Todd. It’s very possible he could be ready by the end of the summer, but it’s one of those things where it’s going to have to be a decision that he and the team that decides to pick him up will make.

    “He’s definitely on track to make a full recovery, and I have full confidence that when the time is right for him to play again, he’s going to play as if he’d never been injured.”

    The stage of ACL rehab that Gurley is at is akin to getting over the hump. If players struggle when they start running, cutting and doing field work, experiencing swelling or soreness, they have to regress to basic exercises and can be set back three to four months. The progress Hobgood described Gurley making in field work is a very important, very positive indicator.

    Andrews declined to speak specifically about Gurley’s progress, citing patient privacy. Ever since another of Andrews’ patients, Adrian Peterson, set a new bar for ACL recovery in 2012, when he began his 2,000-yard rushing campaign less than nine months after surgery, Andrews has tried to guard against players setting unrealistic expectations.

    “Running backs, if they lose a step, they wont be productive in the NFL,” Andrews says. “They’ve got to get all their speed back, they’ve got to cut and change directions and they’ve got to get all their power back in their leg, which takes at least nine months to adequately get their leg reconditioned. It’s a lot of milestones they have to go through.”

    A player like Gurley is facing those milestones in the pressure cooker of the pre-draft process, while also preparing to leap to a whole other level of play. “It’s tough,” Andrews says. “But a good high-level guy can do it, believe me. Sometimes it’s a little unbelievable how well they can do when they are very elite athletes with obviously great genetics.”

    * * *

    The question, as it is with any player in the NFL draft, is when a team would get good value by selecting him. How do you balance Gurley’s talent and the fact that he is five months removed from major knee surgery?

    “It’s hard to predict the injury, and how someone is going to rehab, especially at that position,” Rams GM Les Snead said at the NFL combine. “But you saw the body of work, that it was really good. I don’t think he’ll fall too far in this draft.”

    The medical recheck, held 11 days ago in Indianapolis, gives each team’s medical staff a chance for one final check of injured players’ progress before the draft. There were three months between Gurley’s surgery and the combine, about the length of time it takes for the new ACL graft to fuse to the femur and tibia bones. At five months, the picture of how well a player is progressing toward athletic function is much clearer.

    At the medical recheck, doctors run through a checklist for players coming off ACL surgery, says Matthew Matava, orthopedic surgeon and the Rams’ head team physician. They inspect the quadriceps—specifically, the vastus medialis obliquus, a muscle involved in knee extension that needs to be strong for proper knee function—to see how much atrophy of the muscle there is compared to the healthy leg. They check if the range of motion matches the healthy knee, and if there is any swelling. Then, the same manual tests used to help diagnose an ACL injury (the Lachman test, the pivot shift and the anterior drawer test) are done to check stability of the knee with the new ACL graft.

    Gurley also took a series of private visits with teams, including the Lions and the Panthers. Gurley’s agent suggested he take a video of himself sprinting on the treadmill, which he recently posted to Instagram (his injured leg is indiscernible from his healthy one).

    On his way to Chicago for the draft, he stopped in Athens, Ga., on Monday and worked out with Mitchell at the football building. They biked and did squats and ab work. Says Mitchell, who just finished spring practice: “I think he’s in better shape than I am.”

    But no matter how good Gurley looks and feels at this point, exactly when and how he will return to the field is still a projection. Orthopedists agree that in most cases, players perform much better, physically and mentally, their second year back from knee surgery. In 2003, the Bills drafted Miami running back Willis McGahee 23rd overall less than four months after he tore multiple ligaments in his knee in the Fiesta Bowl. He sat out his rookie season, then posted back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons.

    “It depends if you are looking to draft a young running back that can go this year, or if you have a stable backfield and have that luxury of waiting a year or two,” the NFL offensive coach says. “A team that was looking for that guy this year, that needs him, won’t necessarily go for Gurley, because if they need him, they need him now.”

    * * *

    The SEC rivals met in Jacksonville, a neutral-site game at the home of the Jaguars, with their seasons on the line. Dante Fowler, Jr., then a freshman defensive end for Florida, remembers that October 2012 afternoon for two reasons: 1) because his team’s unbeaten season was ended, and 2) because of how Georgia’s freshman tailback sliced through the Gators’ vaunted defense.

    “Todd Gurley, he is a monster,” Fowler says. “What gets me about him is how fast he is. He’s a big guy so you would think that he’s slow, but he’s even faster in person than what he looks like on TV. We had a mean defense. We had Sharrif Floyd, Dominique Easley, Matt Elam—three first-round draft picks—and we had a top-five defense in the country. To see what he was doing to us, as a freshman, I was like, man, this guy is going to be something else.”

    Three minutes into that game, Gurley took a handoff, cut back to his left, knifed through that stocked Florida defense and burst into the end zone for a 10-yard touchdown run. That was one of his 44 career touchdowns—second only to Herschel Walker in the Georgia record book—and one of the 18 100-yard games Gurley would have over three seasons at Georgia.

    Fowler and Gurley will meet again this week at the NFL draft in Chicago. If circumstances were different, both men’s names would surely be among the first 10 called on Thursday night. They still might be.

    “[Gurley] doesn’t lose a lot of one-on-ones,” says the offensive coach. “That’s something I look for in backs. To me, that’s a difference-maker. The eighth defender in the box, can he consistently beat him or does he get tackled all the time? When you get in the secondary, can he escape or does he get tackled? That’s the difference between average backs and great backs.”

    One team official said Gurley’s combine interview was one of the most impressive in recent memory. He’s bigger in person than expected (6-foot-1, 222 pounds), a good thing for a running back who will need to pick up blitzing NFL linebackers. But beyond that, in just 15 minutes, he filled the room with the kind of presence teams like to have in their locker room.

    That was on display during the combine workouts, too. Gurley was only able to compete in the bench press, but he turned heads by cheering on the fellow running backs during the 40-yard dashes and position drills, and offering them water, towels and high fives in between events. “Here’s a kid who could possibly be a top-5 or top-10 pick, and he was the biggest cheerleader,” says retired NFL fullback Tony Richardson, who worked with the running backs during the combine as an NFL Legends ambassador. “I was blown away by that.”

    Last fall, Gurley seemed to take his NCAA suspension harder emotionally than the torn ACL, because he felt like he let down his teammates. “I never heard him so sad,” Mitchell says of a phone conversation with Gurley. “He apologized, and you could hear the crack in his voice. Then he just held the phone in silence.” Amateurism infractions barely register a blip in NFL minds, let alone raise a red flag. The biggest questions surrounding Gurley, who also missed time as a sophomore with ankle and hip injuries, are the physical ones—namely, when he’ll be ready to play football again.

    The last two years, teams have shied away from investing a first-round pick—and the corresponding guaranteed money, which would be upwards of $12 million for a top-10 pick—in a running back. But last year’s Super Bowl alone was a reminder of what a strong ground game can do for an offense. Seattle nearly rode Marshawn Lynch to a second straight title. New England’s revived rushing attack helped them overcome some early season struggles (and their 46 rushing attempts in the AFC title game was the most they’ve ever had in a playoff game during the Belichick era).

    An elite back, especially one who can stay on the field for three downs, can still be a difference maker. Gurley could be this draft’s ultimate risk-reward pick—and the latest prognosis on his knee has him trending toward reward.

    “He’s one of the most complete backs to come out in a long time,” the offensive coach says. “You’re not going to make it deep in the playoffs without a run game. If you perceive a guy to be a difference-maker like that, you better get him early.”

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    St. Louis Rams First Round Draft Pick RB Todd Gurley Conference Call – April 30, 2015

    (On if being picked by the Rams came as a surprise and did the Rams show interest before the draft)
    “A little bit. A little surprised, but like I said I’m just happy. I’m happy, real happy to just be a part of the Rams.”

    (On if the Rams were one of the 20 teams he visited and was told to keep quiet about)
    “No, they weren’t. They weren’t.”

    (On what is the earliest date that he can play football)
    “Right now there’s no time table. Not putting a timetable on anything. Everything’s been on schedule and just looking forward to coming back.”

    (On what percent he is injury-wise)
    “Like I said, I really wouldn’t say a percent. At the end of the day, I’ve never been through one of these injuries. But, like I said, I’m not a doctor or therapist. Everything is going on schedule. Still have a lot of work to do though.”

    (On if he feels it’s realistic to play on opening day)
    “Yes, I think that’s a realistic goal. But, like I said, I’m not putting any time table.”

    (On his current rehab process)
    “My rehab’s been going good. Haven’t been limited to anything far as the weight room, blocks, been running, doing some control cutting – just getting after it.”

    (On if he’s been able to run at full speed)
    “Yes, I have a couple times. But most of it is…a lot of my workouts are modified.”

    (On if he expected to go in the top 10)
    “I mean, yes.” (Laughs)

    (On why he expected to go in the top 10)
    “Because I know what I worked hard for and I had confidence in myself, just because of my injury. Because at the same time, I didn’t want to have my head down to be expecting to go low. I’m not that type of person.”

    (On what running back he plays the most like and who did he grow up admiring)
    “I don’t try to be like anybody else. I definitely look at a lot of the great running backs especially in the NFL. I grew up a (New Orleans Saints RB) C.J. Spiller fan.”

    (On how difficult his suspension was last year)
    “It was very difficult, just not being able to play. Having a good season and them telling me I had to sit down.”

    (On what he knows about the Rams’ offense)
    “I know they like to run the ball, so it’s a special, special place. I’m looking forward to going out there and working for them.”

    (On if he had a combine visit with the Rams)
    “Yes, I did.”

    (On if the Rams talked to him at his pro day)
    “I’m not sure. I don’t think I talked to anybody at my pro day.”

    (On when he thought the Rams would be a possible landing spot for him)
    “I didn’t to be honest, but I’m happy.”

    (On what it felt like to get the phone call letting him know he was going to be a Ram)
    “It was crazy. It was awesome for sure to get that phone call and be a part of the team.”

    (On how he would describe himself as a back)
    “I feel like it’s kind of a one-cut, down hill runner. I don’t try to do too much. I’ve still got a lot to learn and improve on my game.”

    (On if he watched football growing up)
    “I always watched football because that’s what I played, but being in North Carolina you don’t have a choice, but to watch basketball all the time.”

    (On if he was a good basketball player)
    “I thought I was (Chicago Bulls’ PG) Derrick Rose for a little bit, but that didn’t work out too well.”

    (On his relationship with LB Alec Ogletree)
    “I’ve got a good relationship with him. I remember my first time in camp during goal line he hit me, ‘Man, I felt that.’ I was like from that day forward I’m running low. It will be good to get back there with him and team up. That’s one of the best players I’ve ever played with.”

    (On if Ogletree has reached out to him since being drafted)
    “I’m not sure I haven’t checked my phone. I’m pretty sure he did.”

    (On if he knows any other Rams)
    “No, I don’t.”

    (On the most important thing he’s learned from himself during his rehab process)
    “Just be patient. Just because you can’t do something one day doesn’t mean it’s not going to come the next day. You’ve just got to keep working at it and try not to be frustrated.”

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    ST. LOUIS RAMS ROUND ONE PRESS CONFERENCE – HEAD COACH JEFF FISHER AND GENERAL MANAGER LES SNEAD – APRIL 30, 2015

    (On first round pick RB Todd Gurley)
    Snead: “Coach Fisher would tell you, we’ve been discussing it a while. Obviously we felt he was a unique talent. That’s subjective, but definitely thought he was a unique talent that only comes around once in a while. So, we thought he might have fallen…could have gone earlier if it hadn’t been for the injury, so it was kind of a bonus to maybe be sitting there at 10. We’ve got a lot of things we’ve got to do, but I think it was a consensus that that player helps everybody: our defense, it helps our offense, our offensive line, our wide receivers, our QB. So, that’s the pick in a nutshell.”

    (On why they think Gurley is a unique talent)
    Fisher: “His body of work speaks for itself. What he was able to do at the University of Georgia was very impressive. Clearly, he was set back because of the injury, but the athletic ability, the strength, the explosion, the acceleration, the instincts that he has as a runner, and he’s also got great hands out of the backfield. He’s that complete back. We have a good group. We really like our group in the room, but this is an opportunity that as Les said, that we could not pass up. There were good players. The board was right. We had a sense for where it was going to go. We’ve been talking about Todd for well over a week now. We were there at the re-check. The rehab’s coming along fine. We don’t know when he’s going to be on the field competitively. We do know that he’s not having any issues right now and as the doc’s typically say, he’s ahead of schedule. So, this is kind of one of those players at the position that really only comes around once in a great while. So, we’re very excited about him.”

    (On when they became comfortable with Gurley’s knee and how comfortable they are being patient with him)
    Fisher: “Well we’re comfortable with the process, the evaluation process. We’re comfortable with what happens at the Combine. Now, he did not allow anybody to manipulate him at the Combine just because the doctor didn’t want 32 teams jerking on the knee. So, he went through his rehab, went back to the re-check. We were there. Our doctors were there and there’s really no concern with where he is right now.”

    (On if Gurley will be ready for the regular season)
    Fisher: “There’s always that possibility, but we’re not going to be specific as to when. I will tell you this: we’re not going to rush it. We may be a little on the conservative side. This is the running back of our future, and it makes no sense to subject him to…put him in a bad situation sooner than we have to. Like I said, we’ve got outstanding backs on our roster. He’s going to add to that group. When that happens, we don’t know. But, he’s going to be the running back of the future for a number of years.”

    (On the depth at the running back position)
    Fisher: “We’ve got a good group, yes.”

    (On if Gurley’s injury history factored into the decision to select him)
    Fisher: “Well, obviously it’s been a concern of ours, but every situation is different. We don’t have any reservations whatsoever about him getting back to full-speed and 100 percent. That’s not going to be an issue with him. He’s endured a lot too. His road’s pretty impressive. He’s had some hard times, went and endured the suspension, but everyone you talk to absolutely loves the kid. Just loves the kid.”

    (On selecting a running back in the first round this year despite one not being picked in the first round the last two years)
    Snead: “I think you take Gurley, obviously we thought he was a unique talent and I think the next guy to go was a pretty damn-good player in the Wisconsin kid. He can hit some home runs and I think that’s why San Diego made a move to go get him. It’s really like I’ve said many times before, the position – that’s just letters in the alphabet. But you take players – they’re humans, you take the ability. I think that’s why you’re seeing the running backs go maybe two, maybe three go off the board this year because they’re skilled people.”

    (On Gurley’s suspension in college)
    Snead: “I think, obviously the Georgia people, he’s a hero to their people. I don’t know if I want to use the word hero, but well-respected throughout their fans. I’ve spent a lot of time in Atlanta so my texts are probably blowing up with UGA fans. We’ve got one on the staff who knows (University of Georgia Head Coach) Mark Richt well and he sent him a text right after the pick saying, ‘Hey, great pick. You guys got a stud.’ That’s coming from his head coach and a lot of the fans there. They respect him. He made a mistake. He got punished for it. He’s moving on.”

    (On if Gurley is similar to former NFL running back Eddie George)
    Fisher: “He’s special. Yeah he is. I got a text from Eddie five minutes after the pick was over saying, ‘Congratulations, great pick.’ But they’re different. They’re running styles are different. When his career is all said and done he could be that guy, yes.”

    (On the coach who got the text from Coach Richt)
    Snead: “(Quarterbacks) Coach (Chris) Weinke.”

    (On who’s going to block for Gurley)
    Fisher: “We’ve got a group up front. We’ll be OK.”

    Snead: “We’ve drafted some people in the past and they did make this thing a three-day event. I didn’t decide that. We’ve got to live through Friday and Saturday. We’ll see if we can help improve that position there, but we’ll still let the board guide us, but we’re well aware.”

    (On if there were any surprises)
    Fisher: “No, the board was perfect so far.”

    (On if Gurley was ranked second on the draft board)
    Snead: “You can’t always believe everything that’s reported. That one’s in-house.”

    Fisher: “We intentionally hid him on the board. So, he was way down some place.”

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