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    Rams learn that with defensive coordinator Wade

    RICH HAMMOND

    link: http://www.ocregister.com/2017/08/24/rams-learn-that-with-defensive-coordinator-wade-phillips-theres-substance-behind-the-hype/

    THOUSAND OAKS — Even before they met him, the Rams bought into the idea of playing for defensive coordinator Wade Phillips. His 40-year resume, Super Bowl ring and wry sense of humor didn’t hurt.

    Then, after a few weeks in meeting rooms and on the field, the Rams discovered Phillips’ substance.

    “It was surprising how much the defense works, really,” tackle Michael Brockers said. “I was surprised at how smart Wade is. When he calls stuff, if you execute it and you do it the right way, it’s going to work. That’s been the biggest surprise to me, is just seeing it come to fruition.”

    Certainly, there’s a long way to go. The contract holdout of star lineman Aaron Donald continues, and injuries to linebackers Robert Quinn and Mark Barron and cornerbacks Kayvon Webster and Nickell Robey-Coleman have prevented the first-string defense from playing together during the preseason.

    So from the outside, the Rams’ defense remains a bit of a mystery, and not one that will be solved during Saturday’s exhibition game against the Chargers. The Rams, insist, though, that things are coming along nicely.

    “You see (players) in meetings kind of seeing it all come together,” linebacker Connor Barwin said. “Guys are able to see the whole system. ‘I see what we do in this situation and how this play works.’ It’s a good feeling when you see guys seeing results show up in tape. It makes them buy in more.”

    Phillips’ history of being a turnaround artist is undeniable. Over the past 15 years, he has taken over defenses in Atlanta, San Diego, Houston and Denver and made immediate statistical improvements.

    Any concern over Phillips and the Rams involved not his system, but existing players fitting into it.

    The Rams asked defensive end Robert Quinn to move to outside linebacker. Mark Barron, a natural safety who played outside linebacker last season, moved to inside linebacker. Brockers, previously a 4-3 defensive tackle, shifted to nose tackle. Barwin, who played linebacker under Phillips in Houston, has moved back there after a season at defensive end.

    Quinn and Barron missed most of training camp and probably won’t play together until the Sept. 10 season opener against Indianapolis, but Quinn said off-field installation of the defense has been smooth.

    “I think the guys have made a great adjustment,” Quinn said. “The system might seem complicated to everyone else, but I think Wade simplifies it for us. Guys have been able to adjust a little bit easier, because he makes it, while you’re in the classroom, easier to understand.”

    Brockers had a more basic concern. No lightweight at 302 pounds, Brockers understood that he was 20-30 pounds lighter than the average NFL nose tackle, but then he did a little research into Phillips.

    “At first, it was kind of scary, coming from a 4-3,” Brockers said. “You’re thinking you should be a big, burly nose tackle, but you look at Wade’s history and he usually doesn’t have those. In Denver, he didn’t really have a large tackle, so I fit in perfectly.”

    That seems to be the consensus among the Rams, in part because Phillips values versatility.

    The Rams might have one of the fastest defenses in the NFL, but there are questions about size. Neither Barron nor Alec Ogletree is a traditional, stout middle linebacker, and, of course, the Rams have yet to incorporate Donald into their defense.

    Still, there’s optimism. Phillips is known to be a stickler for details, but also will explain a concept as many times as is necessary for a player to understand it. Rams players say that nuances of the system might take a little while to learn, but once it is installed, the system is simple to run and player-friendly.

    “Maybe it’s simple,” Barwin said, “but I think Wade has a really high standard, where you’re not allowed to make mistakes. Because of that standard, guys learn it and know it. But I also think once you learn the system, it can be complicated to the offense but simple to us. Because there’s really just a few things that we do, but we move different people around and make it complicated to dissect what it is.”

    #73199
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    this defense could be something else. they just gotta find a way to get donald back and keep quinn healthy.

    but i feel so much better with wade than i do with gregg.

    #73242
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    Wade Phillips brings quick-fix wizardry to Los Angeles Rams’ D

    Gregg Rosenthal

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000834089/article/wade-phillips-brings-quickfix-wizardry-to-los-angeles-rams-d

    Bum Phillips loved to watch his son work. Near the end of a life spanning football’s explosive growth, the legendary leader of the “Love ya Blue” Houston Oilers would regularly show up to Texans practice, wife by his side, to see Wade Phillips coordinate Houston’s defense.

    “Wade was 65 years old at the time,” Los Angeles Rams linebacker Connor Barwin said in an interview this summer, recalling the image of his days playing for Phillips in Houston. “It was so cool to watch his parents come watch him coach. You just saw that love between them, that respect, that love for the game all in one.”

    Now 70 years old and ready to embark on his 40th NFL season after joining the 10th pro organization of his career, the Rams’ newest defensive coordinator wears that love of sport as conspicuously as his late father once wore a 10-gallon hat. Phillips emerged as the preeminent quick-fix defensive coach of the last quarter-century by honoring his father’s principles even when they cut against the NFL norms of the day. When a team needs a defensive boost, they call Phillips, and he delivers every time.

    Phillips and Barwin are more than just coach and player — the two men regularly grabbed meals together even when Barwin was playing with the Eagles and Phillips was coaching elsewhere. In this era of free agency, cold professionalism and emotion-free press conferences, Phillips believes that coaches and players can be friends. He believes that yelling at players for mistakes amounts to “bitching” and not coaching. He believes that too many staffs overcoach players in an effort to make them all the same. The Son of Bum identifies with players who don’t follow all his orders, knowing well that a little independent thinking goes a long way.

    “You don’t want players that do exactly what you say because they have no initiative themselves,” Phillips told me. “You get some guys who are great young men that want to do everything you say, but they get carried away with that. When you need to make a play, you need to have the initiative to say, ‘Hey, Coach told me to do this, but the ball’s right there. I got to make the play.’ ”

    Like so much of Phillips’ football philosophy, this sounds deceptively straightforward. Rams players extol Phillips’ ability to simplify concepts and teach with clarity so they can learn fast and play even faster. Introduction to Wade Phillips 101 is a defensive self-help course with proven results that rival those of any defensive coach of his lifetime. In Los Angeles, he takes over a defense that had a better reputation than results over the last four seasons, failing to ever finish in the top 10 in points allowed and bottoming out last season, ranking 23rd in that category. Phillips’ track record is one reason why Rams fans should expect this defense — and the 2017 team as a whole — to escape the quicksand of the Jeff Fisher era.

    * * * * *

    Phillips has been in this position before. He’s made a career of taking over underperforming defenses and instantly turning them around. From 1981 to his January hire by Rams coach Sean McVay, Phillips has been named defensive coordinator or head coach 12 different times. Each of the nine most recent postings leading up to the Rams job resulted in a trip to the playoffs during his first season in the new role. Every single defense Phillips inherited from 1989 on improved in points allowed and yards allowed after he took over, usually in dramatic fashion.

    Phillips believes his secret weapon is the “teaching progression” he’s developed over the years to build a defense. He stresses that players learn common terminology across position groups so they can communicate better. Most coaches meticulously plan out each day installing a defense, adhering to a strict schedule. Phillips teaches his players until they get it right.

    “When we teach it, we do the same thing over and over and over and over,” Phillips said. “Like the same coverage — I’ll do it three or four or five days in a row. And when they get it, I’ll go to the next one. It may take two days or it may take five days, but when I feel like they’ve got it, then we’ll go to the next step.”

    The Texas native’s pet peeve: self-important coaches who stand at the podium after games and blame losses on players’ mistakes. Phillips believes that is a way to deflect blame from the coaches who should have taught the players how to avoid those mistakes. His system attempts to eliminate ambiguity.

    “He keeps it black and white,” Rams defensive tackle Michael Brockers explained. “Everything has its category, so you can’t mess it up. Whatever you hear, that’s your name called, you gotta go. It’s so simple that you can catch on real quick.”

    “Scheme-wise, man, it’s simple,” Rams safety Maurice Alexander said. “It’s just one word, and you just have to play after that.”

    Simplifying the arcane and often esoteric nature of football coaching is in Phillips’ blood. Former Alabama coach Bear Bryant — who hired Bum at Texas A&M in 1958 and later offered Wade a football scholarship — credited Bum with creating the universally used numbering system which tells defensive linemen where to line up based on their assigned numbers, like the “1 technique” or “5 technique.” Before Bum came along, players were forced to remember code words that varied from team to team.

    Like Bum before him, Wade coaches how he speaks: with a common-sense approach. That approach speaks to Wade’s quest for his players to hit the field with an uncluttered mind. Rams inside linebacker Alec Ogletree, who will help make the team’s defensive calls this season, stressed how most coaches value their scheme above all. Phillips values understanding.

    In the Rams practices I watched during minicamp and training camp, defenders were one step ahead of the offense, taking aggressive paths to the ball. Phillips notes that offenses are so complicated in the modern NFL that no defense is that simple. His goal is to provide a solid base for players to adjust to what they see. Linebacker Mark Barron said the ability to change plays on the fly is one of the biggest differences he’s noticed after playing under former Rams coordinator Gregg Williams for three seasons. Multiple players expressed that communication is improved and more integral in Phillips’ defense, which counts on them to exercise their freedom. Ogletree noted the defense was creating more turnovers than it had in previous offseasons.

    “It’s not all about X’s and O’s,” Phillips explained. “It’s about the players themselves, what they can do. You can draw up a lot of things, a lot of defenses; I can draw up a lot of coverages, and they might be good, but it depends on the players you have.”

    * * * * *

    Bum Phillips believed that evaluating players is what set his son apart, according to Wade’s colorful autobiography, “Son of Bum.” In Wade’s words, “If a guy can do something well, you better find a way to let him do it.”

    Phillips changes the mold, not the player. That’s why he doesn’t mind when a pass rusher occasionally ignores “containing” a quarterback in the pocket in order to go inside and make a sack. It’s why Phillips didn’t mind Texans defensive end J.J. Watt running around blocks when Phillips coached him as a rookie, because Watt proved he could make up ground to finish plays. Phillips prizes results over orthodoxy.

    “He can look at guys after a couple weeks or months with them and know what their football intellect is and how far he can take people and when he needs to back it down for them,” Barwin observed. “That’s what I mean when I say he puts guys in situations to be successful. If a guy can’t handle different switches and calls, Wade is not going to put them in those positions.”

    Instead, Phillips specializes at getting his best players into advantageous one-on-ones. NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah relayed a story of his scouting days with the Ravens, when he was tasked with putting together a reel of then-Chargers outside linebacker Shawne Merriman’s 17-sack 2006 season. After watching the film, Ravens scouts realized that a great number of the sacks should have been credited to Phillips — the Chargers’ defensive coordinator that season — for finding a way to isolate his best pass rusher on opposing running backs.

    With the Rams, Phillips will look for ways to take standout defensive tackle Aaron Donald’s play to another level, once Donald’s contract stalemate is over. Phillips couldn’t contain his excitement about veteran defensive end Robert Quinn, whose tremendous quickness off the ball reminded Phillips of a young DeMarcus Ware, coached by Phillips in Dallas and later in Denver.

    “He does a great job of putting his players in good matchup situations, almost like you try to from an offensive standpoint. He finds a way to get his elite rushers in some good situations,” Rams coach Sean McVay said when asked what it’s like to face off against Phillips every day in practice.

    McVay’s face lights up when he talks about Phillips’ ability to teach and how lucky the Rams are to have him. McVay called Phillips back in January to see if he wanted to work for a coach 39 years younger than him should McVay earn the Rams’ top job. Phillips was out of a gig following his dominant two-year run as Broncos defense coordinator, despite the Super Bowl ring he earned after the 2015 season. After a strong reference from Phillips’ son, Wes, who coached under McVay in Washington, Phillips figured he had nothing to lose. He couldn’t help but laugh, snapping his fingers when remarking that he didn’t necessarily expect McVay to get a job “just like that” at 30 years old (McVay turned 31 shortly after being hired).

    With four decades of NFL coaching under his belt, Phillips says that being around his players keeps him young. Whether it’s bopping his head on his VersaClimber to the latest Drake album, clowning around on his epic Twitter account or “always carrying himself with swag,” according to Barron, Phillips connects with his guys.

    I asked Phillips if he thought his father, were he still coaching, would also listen to Drake.

    “Well, he started from the bottom,” Phillips deadpanned.

    Now Wade’s in Los Angeles, with the Rams at the bottom, perhaps the final reclamation project for the best defensive coordinator of his era. History says the team won’t stay there for long.

    #73249
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    Phillips believes that coaches and players can be friends.

    hmm… don’t tell martz that.

    seriously though i see a theme here. teaching is really emphasized with this coaching staff. not just yelling and cussing to get your point across.

    #73255
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    “…Linebacker Mark Barron said the ability to change plays on the fly is one of the biggest differences he’s noticed after playing under former Rams coordinator Gregg Williams for three seasons. Multiple players expressed that communication is improved and more integral in Phillips’ defense,…”

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    #73257
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    This discussion leads me to Declare An Opinion.

    I liked Wms. He fielded the best Rams defense since 99 and 2001. His player development was sometimes remarkable. So for example, from 2012 to 2014, the Rams acquired 5 starting DBs: McLeon, Jenkins, Tru, Joyner, Alexander. The highest they spent for any of them was a 2nd. There’s talk now of Michael Jordan coming through (I liked him last year too). But either way, developing 5 DBs in 3 years is just tremendous. Between 2001 and 2011, they hit on TWO (Bartell and Atogwe).

    BUT.

    Yes Wms is good but Wade is Hall of Fame.

    It;s like the difference between Steven Jackson and Dickerson.

    #73259
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    well it seems to me that this coaching staff is more about mutual respect. rather than just do what i say. if you learn the concepts i teach you and you put in the work i will put my faith in you. and i will empower you to be great on the field.

    maybe that sounds a little cheesy but i could see it working.

    #73260
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    well it seems to me that this coaching staff is more about mutual respect. rather than just do what i say. if you learn the concepts i teach you and you put in the work i will put my faith in you. and i will empower you to be great on the field.

    maybe that sounds a little cheesy but i could see it working.

    See I don’t buy that. I saw nothing wrong with the coaching that came before. I too like what I hear about WP’s ability to teach, but I don’t like it at GW’s expense.

    I just think that WP is that much better than EVERYONE else. He’s mastered teaching defense at a level that exceeds EVERYONE. Including every single Rams defensive coordinator you can name, no matter how good.

    And it’s not just his teaching, it’s WP’s schemes. A subject we have barely touched on. WP is also a master of disguising what he’s doing. He’s a kind of defensive coordinator version of Martz back there.

    I personally am never going to put that in a way that downplays or slights or diminishes what came before.

    If you got Dickerson after Jackson I would be saying the same kind of thing. Yes ED is a hall of famer but there was nothing wrong with SJ.

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    #73261
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    Overall philosophy seems to be totally different. Williams was high risk high reward. Wades defense seems to be more of a “cover all the bases” type defense. I actually hated Williams defense.

    The best defense we had in the last ten years was Jeff Fishers defense. The year Greg Williams got suspended and Fisher was basically acting d coordinator.

    #73262
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    Overall philosophy seems to be totally different. Williams was high risk high reward. Wades defense seems to be more of a “cover all the bases” type defense. I actually hated Williams defense.

    The best defense we had in the last ten years was Jeff Fishers defense. The year Greg Williams got suspended and Fisher was basically acting d coordinator.

    I am in the awkward position of disagreeing with everyone here today.

    Williams was bend don’t break. He also had a top redzone defense, with the exception of last year. And a top 3rd down defense. It was never high risk. Not really.

    I loved GW’s defense. I really did. Best defense we have seen from the Rams since 99.

    But as I said, WP is on another level–from everyone. No matter who the Rams coordinator was before, and pretend it could be ANYONE (ie anyone active today), I would be saying that.

    #73263
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    I too like what I hear about WP’s ability to teach, but I don’t like it at GW’s expense.

    i don’t think i’m really putting down williams at all. i did say he likes to scream a lot. and from the quotes, i think it pretty much was do it williams’ way or get out. and from the limited footage i saw with hard knocks and all or nothing, yeah it pretty much was that. a lot of screaming and threats. and that’s not to say that players didn’t like williams. it seems that they did. and i’m sure williams’ approach worked as well.

    but yeah. i think phillips will be that much better than williams.

    #73264
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    I too like what I hear about WP’s ability to teach, but I don’t like it at GW’s expense.

    i don’t think i’m really putting down williams at all. i did say he likes to scream a lot. and from the quotes, i think it pretty much was do it williams’ way or get out. and from the limited footage i saw with hard knocks and all or nothing, yeah it pretty much was that. a lot of screaming and threats. and that’s not to say that players didn’t like williams. it seems that they did. and i’m sure williams’ approach worked as well.

    but yeah. i think phillips will be that much better than williams.

    I’ve heard too many good things about GW’s coaching from players. I know the reality shows edited it to seem a certain way. I don’t think that picture matches what players have said about him over the years. I remember watching that stuff on tv and wincing because I saw they had an agenda with the few minutes they showed of him with players. That’s not how players talk about him and it has been many.

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    #73279
    TSRF
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    one thing that is still bothering me:

    If Wade Phillips is all that, why did Denver let him go?

    #73281
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    one thing that is still bothering me:

    If Wade Phillips is all that, why did Denver let him go?

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    http://scout.com/nfl/rams/Article/Contract-dispute-led-to-Wade-Phillips-leaving-Broncos-74925463

    he Los Angeles Rams last month announced the hiring of Wade Phillips as the team’s defensive coordinator under new head coach Sean McVay for next season.

    Much of this came about quickly after the Rams made the decision to hire McVay in early January. In fact, he had been immediately rumored to be his first choice for the position. This came just a couple of weeks after Phillips declared himself readily available on the market after two seasons with the Denver Broncos.

    The Broncos under Phillips over the last couple of seasons have boasted one of the league’s top defenses ranking first in 2015 and fourth in 2016. In light of that, KUSA’s Mike Klis has reported that the reason for the 69-year-old’s departure from Denver occurred due to a contract dispute.

    Phillips didn’t take the Rams’ job until he learned the Broncos weren’t bringing him back. Here are the events that led to Phillips departure: After his defensive unit was largely responsible for the Broncos winning Super Bowl 50, he asked general manager John Elway for a pay raise and an extension.

    Elway gave most of the Broncos’ assistant coaches extensions and raises after their Super Bowl victory, but Phillips was asking to become the league’s highest-paid defensive coordinator by a substantial margin. It was Phillips’ right. The Broncos’ defense was the best in the league.

    But it was also Elway’s right to balk. According to multiple sources, Elway gave Phillips an either-or option: An extension or raise, but not both. Phillips took the raise. Once the 2016 season ended and Phillips’ contract was set to expire, the Broncos quickly moved to the Joseph-Woods duo to replace him.

    This clears up any mystery in terms of why the process of joining the Rams’ staff was drawn out a bit longer than originally anticipated. The Rams didn’t officially announce the move until a few days later from the initial reports from several major news outlets.

    The situation in Denver had become a mutual agreement on both ends for Phillips and general manager John Elway that only gained clarity with the hiring of the next head coach in Vance Joseph, who was the former defensive coordinator for the Miami Dolphins for the 2016 season.

    With that decision made for him, it then became a simple choice to join Los Angeles effectively replacing Gregg Williams, who had left a couple of weeks prior taking the same position with the Cleveland Browns. Phillips possesses a wealth of NFL coaching experience that spans over 25 seasons as a defensive coordinator with seven different teams.

    He has already made it clear that he plans on altering the Rams’ defense to a 3-4 scheme, which he has made much success running with the Broncos over the last couple of years. Los Angeles had primarily been under the 4-3 defensive formation during Jeff Fisher’s tenure with the team.

    Despite the Rams’ significant issues on the offensive side of the ball last season, they managed to finish ninth in total defense, 10th against the pass, and 16th against the run.

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