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Fisher reminds me of Maxwell Smart with all of his excuses, but the if he really wanted Jenkins, the front office let him down. They had the money to pay Jenkins. If they had concentrated on signing their own free agents, they had a chance to sign them all. They extended no contracts last year. We have done 2 this year, Brockers and Tavon. I think the move and Demoff letting someone else do contracts hurt their ability to sign their own free agents.
Maybe the personnel dept could have done better on checking the background of some players, but it seemed that if the coaches wanted a player they got them. Some examples are: Fisher got Gurley. Fassel got his kicker and punter. Williams got Alexander and Joiner. Boudreau got Robinson. Waufle got Donald. I believe most personnel depts let the coaches have more input on lower draft choices. They stack the board. That involves coaches and scouts. So, I don’t see how personnel let them down. Did personnel pick all the ex-Titan free agents? Did they sign Sensabaugh because Fisher didn’t want him? Fisher seems to think they could win with the players they had. imo
Agamemnoni find it interesting that fisher says he took the job knowing that there was a pending move to los angeles. even though the move was being denied at the time. not the biggest deal to me. i wouldn’t figure they’d tell the truth back then anyway.
i do agree with him about the qb situation. if bradford had stayed healthy, things might have been very different.
losing mcleod and jenkins was a huge blow. i would have let tavon go and at least signed one of those two. although i have to admit i was ok with the signing at the time. i figured this group would be more able to find and develop a db than a wr. looking back it was a bad signing. maybe a new coach will get more out of him. i doubt it though.
Fisher reminds me of Maxwell Smart with all of his excuses
We differ on that.
I see 2012-15 as including an incredible run of sheer stupid bad luck.
I can’t think of an teams that played well on offense when they BOTH (a) lost the starting qb, and (b) dealt with issues on the OL including both *extensive* injuries and inexperience. I am always open to hear from someone who can think of examples that counter that statement. Until I hear examples, though, I just figure that this is a huge factor and there is no evidence of any kind AGAINST seeing it as a huge factor.
How many games from 2012-2015 did they have a relatively healthy and/or decently experienced OL?
20 of 64.
How many games from 2012-2015 did they a functioning, non-melted down or non-injured starting caliber qb?
I give Foles 4 games so it’s 27.
How many games did they have BOTH things?
15. Of 64.
And when he says he is the only guy to coach 2 bad teams that also moved? That’s just true. I don’t see any point in him humbly denying it to earn macho points.
And you know in the end no one needs to be swayed by these things (though denying them is just, well, denial). People can still just easily go, I don’t care, I don’t like Fisher anyway.
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I gave him a pass on most of that stuff. But, some time this year, I just got tired of hearing the excuses. Maybe it was after the “We’re not going 7 And 9” speech? The 28 – 0 loss to SF? Losing to Miami on the final 2 TD drives? The blow out loses to NO and NE? “Missed it by that much Chief.”
Agamemnon2016 was bad, but for me it doesn’t change 2012-15.
Even up until when Fisher got fired, I have been pretty much, “I don’t care if he stays or goes.” I find that I am a bit relieved that he did get fired, because we get a new set of eyes on the team.
AgamemnonFor me the main or only excuse/reason I give real value to, is, if Fisher wanted to keep Jenkins and it didn’t happen. I am sure they had the money for Jenkins. They still have $5.5 million salary cap left. They wasted $5.5 million on Sensabaugh, $4.5 this year and $1 million next year.
Jenkins had a cap number of $8 million this year. McLeod had a cap number of $2.6 million McLeod, well someone had to go when they didn’t extend any contracts early. Who is responsible for that? I assume it was the negotiator. But who told him what the value of a certain player was or did he do that himself?If Fisher really wanted Jenkins, somebody screwed him. imo
It occurs to me that if they did say they were going to sign Jenkins and they saw that they couldn’t. Wouldn’t they have contacted Fisher to get his input on who he would rather have or not have? And how much do I want to trust that Fisher always tells the whole truth?
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