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    PFF: LA-TB GRADES: AARON DONALD, RAMS’ D-LINE CONTINUE TO IMPRESS
    Highest-graded players and top takeaways from the Rams’ Week 3 win over the Buccaneers.

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    LA-TB grades: Aaron Donald, Rams’ D-line continue to impress
    Highest-graded players and top takeaways from the Rams’ Week 3 win over the Buccaneers.

    Los Angeles Rams 37, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 32

    Here are the biggest takeaways and highest-graded players from the Los Angeles Rams’ 37-32 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers:

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    Quarterback grade: Jameis Winston, 66.8

    For two straight weeks, quarterback Jameis Winston has attempted over 50 passes. Part of that is due to being behind late in games; the other part is having a reliable running back that opponents will respect and not daring Winston to win the game through the air. The Rams’ pass-rush had him on edge the majority of the game, as he was hurried 10 times and hit five. On plays where he wasn’t pressured, Winston threw for 322 yards and two touchdowns while completing 64 percent of his passes. On the final play of the game, Winston simply seemed to lose awareness of where he was the field and drifted past the line of scrimmage looking for receivers before being brought down from behind, dropping the Bucs’ record to 1-2 on the season.

    Top offensive grades:

    WR Mike Evans, 82.9

    TE Cameron Brate, 80.2

    LT Donovan Smith, 78.4

    RT Demar Dotson, 77.7

    WR Adam Humphries, 74.0

    Receivers grade well for Bucs

    Wide receiver Mike Evans continues to be Jameis Winston’s favorite target, and will be for the foreseeable future. Evans was targeted 13 times, hauling in 10 for 132 yards. Eight of those receptions came against Rams CB Trumaine Johnson, who had a difficult time dealing with Evans’ unique size and speed after holding him in check early in the game. Evans has already been targeted 37 times through the first three games by QB Winston, but they’ve only managed to connect on 21 of those. TE Cameron Brate had to be a pleasant surprise for the Bucs; he was the offense’s highest-graded run blocker, at 87.2, while also catching five passes and two touchdowns.

    Top defensive grades:

    LB Lavonte David, 90.2

    LB Kwon Alexander, 87.6

    DT Gerald McCoy, 80.8

    CB Brent Grimes, 77.4

    S Chris Conte, 76.8

    Linebackers live up to hype

    The Bucs’ linebackers have rare athletic abilities, but those traits do not always translate to production. Against the Rams, the pair could not be accused of underperforming, however. Alexander had the momentum-shifting pick-six, one of four incompletions into his coverage. He also managed another pass deflection on his four targets, none of which were caught. Lavonte David was his usual, active self around the line of scrimmage, giving up just three catches for 12 yards with a pass deflection. The Bucs’ weak-side linebacker also managed five stops and an impressive 89.2 run-defense grade. Playing like this, opposing offenses will have trouble topping the Tampa Bay defense with small-ball.

    Los Angeles Rams

    Quarterback grade: Case Keenum, 58.1

    Keenum recovers from early error

    The perception of a performance can change dramatically on a single play. Case Keenum was largely effective against the Bucs, but threw a dreadful pick-six that tarnished an otherwise solid outing. He stared down his receiver, compounding that mistake by throwing late over the middle. It was the kind of error a rookie might make—only exacerbating the call for Jared Goff. To be fair to Keenum, he shook off that mistake and played well the rest of the way. His two touchdowns were relatively simple throws—a post against no centerfield defender and a corner route with a couple steps separation—but Keenum did enough ensure the win.

    Top offensive grades:

    RT Rob Havenstein, 80.1

    LT Greg Robinson, 76.0

    WR Tavon Austin, 74.5

    WR Brian Quick, 71.7

    RG Jamon Brown, 70.0

    Riding the ground game working for Rams

    The Rams’ physical style has now helped them to back-to-back wins. Right tackle Rob Havenstein embodies that philosophy; the former Wisconsin Badger looks capable of holding down a starting spot over the long-term. In the backfield, Todd Gurley had a solid performance without ripping off any big gains. He was forced to work for his 85 yards, earning 60 of them after contact. Even backup Benny Cunningham made an impact, bursting through the middle for a first down on 3rd-an- 20. Stopping the Rams’ run game undermines their game plan entirely, but it is easier said than done.

    Top defensive grades:

    DT Aaron Donald, 84.4

    LB Alec Ogletree, 84.3

    S T.J. McDonald, 81.7

    DT Michael Brockers, 76.5

    DE Robert Quinn, 73.3

    Defensive line continues to shine

    Defensive tackle Aaron Donald had a quieter day by his standards—even then, however, he still graded out as the top defensive player for L.A., and generating two QB hurries, two QB hits, and two batted passes. He finished with a pass-rush grade of 83.6, and gave Tampa Bay’s interior offensive line fits all game. Potentially the biggest play for the Rams’ defense was when DE Robert Quinn beat LT Donovan Smith clean off the edge with speed, then stripped Jameis Winston; Quinn’s execution of the play was a thing of beauty, remindining us why he’s still one of the top pass-rushers in the game.

    PFF Game-Ball Winner: Buccaneers LB Lavonte David

    #53898
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    just want to give special attention to a personal favorite of mine. greg robinson. i think he’s been real solid so far.

    #53909
    Avatar photonittany ram
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    Top defensive grades:

    DT Aaron Donald, 84.4

    LB Alec Ogletree, 84.3

    S T.J. McDonald, 81.7

    DT Michael Brockers, 76.5

    DE Robert Quinn, 73.3

    Well, I guess we can conclude that the Ogletree to MLB experiment is a huge success.

    The run defense hasn’t suffered with Tree at MLB (it may even be better) and he covers a lot more ground than Lauranitis did in pass defense.

    That was one calculated risk that paid off nicely, anyway.

    #53912
    Avatar photoZooey
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    Yeah, the Long and Lauranitis decisions appear to have been good ones, sadly (in a way). But I am certainly wishing Jenkins was here. And McLeod. I sure hope Gaines can be a force.

    #53914
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    Top defensive grades:

    DT Aaron Donald, 84.4

    LB Alec Ogletree, 84.3

    S T.J. McDonald, 81.7

    DT Michael Brockers, 76.5

    DE Robert Quinn, 73.3

    Well, I guess we can conclude that the Ogletree to MLB experiment is a huge success.

    The run defense hasn’t suffered with Tree at MLB (it may even be better) and he covers a lot more ground than Lauranitis did in pass defense.

    That was one calculated risk that paid off nicely, anyway.

    yeah. alec is another of my favorites. was having a huge year last year until the injury. good to see him pick up where he left off. at a new position even. and with all the leadership and responsibilities that go with that.

    i want to see more consistency though from this defense. too much talent and too many mental lapses for my taste. but the secondary being in such shambles may have something to do with that.

    #53918
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    Someone noted that Quinn now has 18 forced fumbles, and thats the most of any NFL player during that time period. (and he missed half the season last yr)

    It is so much fun to see Q and A playing together
    on that DLine. We may not see anything like that duo again for a long time.

    Have the Rams had a DT-DE combo that good since Deacon/Merlin ?

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    #53923
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    i want to see more consistency though from this defense. too much talent and too many mental lapses for my taste. but the secondary being in such shambles may have something to do with that.

    That’s been the issue with this defense for some time…inconsistency.

    I think it’s a little better now. It started getting better sometime last season but it certainly could be better. It won’t ever be a truly great defense until it becomes more consistent.

    #53924
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    Have the Rams had a DT-DE combo that good since Deacon/Merlin ?

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    Nope.

    Jack Youngblood and Larry Brooks were close but they weren’t as talented as Quinn and Donald.

    Not nearly as disruptive.

    Like Deacon Jones and Merlin Olsen they are both ‘generational’ talents.

    I just hope we can hold on to both of them.

    #53925
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    quinn and donald are certainly special. they’re young, so lots of football left to play.

    but since i’ve been watching (since 1995) i haven’t seen anything like that duo.

    carter and little were great defensive ends. i think both for a short time showed the explosiveness and playmaking ability that quinn has. and that for me is where quinn needs to separate himself. he needs the longevity. so far this season i’m encouraged that he can get himself back to the level that we saw a couple years ago. i think he needs to do it for 4 more seasons at least to separate himself from those two.

    aaron donald. i’ve never seen anything like him on the rams at the defensive tackle position. beyond special i think he has the ability to be transcendent. on top of unreal athletic ability just absolutely relentless. forget about that. i don’t think i’ve seen a rams player as relentless as him on the defensive side of the ball. bar maybe london fletcher.

    the two of them together could be unreal. comparing them to merlin and deacon? personally i can’t say cuz i never really watched those two outside nfl films clips. but at this point those two are almost mythic to me. so it’s hard for me to compare these quinn and donald to 2 seemingly deified football players.

    #53931
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    the two of them together could be unreal. comparing them to merlin and deacon? personally i can’t say cuz i never really watched those two outside nfl films clips. but at this point those two are almost mythic to me. so it’s hard for me to compare these quinn and donald to 2 seemingly deified football players.

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    The thing about Merlin was you..could…not..run on him. Ever.
    I’ve never seen anything like it before or since. I just wish there were
    statistics on individual DT play. Cause if there were, Merlin’s run-stopping numbers would be off the charts. And he wasn’t that big really. 275 Lbs maybe? And he did it for fifteen years or so.

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    #53933
    Avatar photoZooey
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    There was no running against the Rams in the 70s. They led the league in 73 and 74 with about 91 and 93 yards allowed per game respectively, and 5 TDs in 73, and 4 in 74. And they didn’t fall off from that much until 1979. I didn’t look up the 60s.

    #53935
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    There was no running against the Rams in the 70s. They led the league in 73 and 74 with about 91 and 93 yards allowed per game respectively, and 5 TDs in 73, and 4 in 74. And they didn’t fall off from that much until 1979. I didn’t look up the 60s.

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    Yeah, do you remember just how utterly Futile it was for teams to try to run up the gut on LA ? It was just a ridiculous waste of a down.

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    #53936
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    what i wouldn’t give to see a truly great rams defense in my lifetime. that would be something else. i liked the gsot and all. but i want to see an all-time rams defense.

    shore up the secondary. be consistent. and stay healthy. that would do it.

    #53937
    Avatar photoZooey
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    There was no running against the Rams in the 70s. They led the league in 73 and 74 with about 91 and 93 yards allowed per game respectively, and 5 TDs in 73, and 4 in 74. And they didn’t fall off from that much until 1979. I didn’t look up the 60s.

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    Yeah, do you remember just how utterly Futile it was for teams to try to run up the gut on LA ? It was just a ridiculous waste of a down.

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    Absolutely. And I loved the Seattle game a week ago. I liked those games. It was like…4th down and six inches…are you seriously going to try to pick that up running? You are denied.

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