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February 6, 2016 at 12:14 pm #38674znModerator
The 1st, older thread containing 2016 draft mocks & general draft discussion is here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/2016-draft-mocks-draft-order-general-comments/
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MOCK DRAFT 3.0: QB CARSON WENTZ LANDS WITH JETS AT NO. 20
Steve Palazzolo
Fresh off the plane from Mobile, the draft landscape has undergone a few changes and we’re here to document them with Mock Draft 3.0. Our evaluation process is ever-changing, as we dive deeper into each prospect and add context to our every-down grading from the fall. A week in Mobile for the Senior Bowl won’t have a massive impact on most prospects, but it was a good opportunity for a few players for whom we have little data to make an impression, while some of our other top-graded players built on strong in-season showings to shine among their peers.
As always, this mock is based around what I would do for each team — not necessarily the buzz and hype we are hearing around the NFL.
1. Tennessee Titans: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
Not much has changed in our evaluations at the top of the draft, so Bosa remains the pick for the Titans. He topped all edge rushers with a +56.6 pass rush grade in 2014, dwarfing that of a number of other first-rounders, and came back this season to rank second overall at +44.1. Throw in the top run defense mark each of the last two seasons, and you have a complete player capable of playing the edge in a 4-3 and likely doing damage at defensive end in a 3-4 if need be.2. Cleveland Browns: Jared Goff, QB, Cal
The quarterback class lacks the heavy hitters at the top, but Goff has put together two strong years, grading as the No. 5 Power-5 quarterback a year ago and the top-graded quarterback this past season. He handled pressure extremely well behind a subpar offensive line while grading well when throwing to all areas of the field.3. San Diego Chargers: DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon
Buckner remains the choice at number three for the Chargers as he’s a great fit for their 3-4 scheme. He rarely came off the field for Oregon, leading all interior defensive linemen with 951 snaps and playing over 100 snaps in two different games. Even with the heavy workload, he used his length to lead the nation with a +42.8 pass rush grade while ranking eighth against the run at +29.1.4. Dallas Cowboys: Jalen Ramsey, CB, Florida State
The first switch in draft strategy from the last iteration, the Cowboys go with Ramsey here to add even more versatility to their secondary. Last year’s first rounder, Byron Jones, played a number of roles, and Ramsey can do the same at the various cornerback positions or even safety. Most impressive about his game is that he grading second overall this season as an outside corner while ranking seventh overall last year as a slot/safety hybrid.5. Jacksonville Jaguars: Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State
With Ramsey off the board, the Jaguars go with the best pass rusher available in Calhoun. He led the nation with a +45.9 pass rush grade last season after ranking fifth in 2014 at +38.5. While playing the run isn’t his strong suit, he’s not useless in that department and slotting into Jacksonville’s LEO role that emphasizes getting after the quarterback should ease some of those concerns. Last year’s first-round pick, Dante Fowler, can play more of a base defensive end role with Calhoun at LEO and Jacksonville should see a big improvement in their pass rush.6. Baltimore Ravens: Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
Baltimore was depleted in the secondary the last two seasons, but Treadwell’s playmaking ability is too much to pass up. He has the size to win the downfield battle against cornerbacks, and QB Joe Flacco is known for giving his receivers plenty of those opportunities. Treadwell can also make guys miss after the catch, as indicated by his 17 forced missed tackles that tied for 13th in the country.7. San Francisco 49ers: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
We’re not yet comfortable with the rest of the quarterback class to pair one with the 49ers at this point, but Doctson adds a strong piece for any future signal caller. He can make plays outside his frame, something he did quite a bit at TCU, but he’s also proficient at creating separation and making plays down the field (ranked sixth in nation in deep passing yards with 553 despite playing in only 10 games). He was the nation’s top-graded WR at +26.9 before going down to injury in Week 11.8. Miami Dolphins: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida
Hargreaves was outstanding in 2014, our best cornerback in the nation, but he took a step back in 2015. Still, he’s sound fundamentally and can play a variety of coverages while staying with even the shiftiest of receivers. Not that division rivals should dictate draft picks, but he’s a good fit to match with the Patriots’ receiving corps. He’s sure to run into concerns about his size, and perhaps his speed, during the process, but few other cornerbacks can match his two-year body of work on the field in our system.9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
Senior Bowl alert! During his time in Mobile, Spence established himself as the most explosive pass rusher, giving offensive tackles headaches all week. We have limited data on Spence, but he showed well in his two FBS games last season (+6.2) and he added six pressures in the Senior Bowl as well as a number of wins in one-on-ones and team drills throughout the week. The big questions for Spence are off the field as he started his career at Ohio State and landed at Eastern Kentucky after numerous issues. If a team is comfortable with the off-field questions, Spence is a first-round talent and an immediate boost to the Bucs’ pass rush.10. New York Giants: Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
Ogbah graded right behind Bosa and Calhoun as a pass rusher (+35.1) after picking up 11 sacks, 16 hits, and 42 hurries on 428 rushes. He’s not as strong against the run but he has the length to get better in that area. He’ll add some much-needed youth to the Giants’ pass rush.11. Chicago Bears: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
While most mock drafts have Tunsil as a lock top-10 pick, a limited sample size in our grading, as well as my own personal de-valuing of the left tackle position have him dropping to No. 11. The Bears were one of the worst pass-blocking units in the league last year and Tunsil allowed only five pressures on 225 attempts while showing good athleticism in the run game (+12.1).12. New Orleans Saints: Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State
Jones is getting little hype with such a deep crop of interior defensive linemen, but he brings incredible upside after a strong quietly strong 2015 that saw him finish with the fourth-best grade among interior defensive linemen at +54.7 and second as a pass rusher at +35.0. Ignore the two sacks, he was a disruptor inside and he’ll immediately help one of the worst interior pass rushes in the league.13. Philadelphia Eagles: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
With so many coverage issues at linebacker last season, Jack is an immediate upgrade as he brings a versatile presence to the back-7. His +15.0 coverage grade led the nation in 2014 and he’s been solid against the run at +11.9 over the last two years.14. Oakland Raiders: Robert Nkemdiche, DT/DE, Ole Miss
After struggling against the run last season Nkemdiche improved in that area last season while still grading as one of the nation’s best pass rushers at +23.4 (No. 8 among interior defensive linemen). He is not a great fit as an every-down player on the interior, but he’s capable of playing early downs on the edge while kicking inside to rush in nickel and dime situations, very similar to recently-retired Justin Tuck.15. Los Angeles Rams: Leontee Carroo, WR, Rutgers
Before going down to injury, Carroo was outstanding at Senior Bowl practice, standing out above the rest of the wide receivers. His on-field production was just as impressive last season as he graded at +15.0 as a receiver on only 363 snaps. His 4.11 yards per route led all FBS receivers, just above Doctson’s mark of 4.03.16. Detroit Lions: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
Offensive line help is on the way in Stanley, who graded at +9.6 as a pass rusher and +9.3 in the run game. He can struggle with power in the run game at times, but he moves well and surrendered only 13 pressures on 458 attempts this season. He can step right into Detroit’s revolving door at right tackle while potentially pushing LT Riley Reiff out the door in the coming years.17. Atlanta Falcons: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
The last two mock drafts saw the Falcons take a much-needed offensive weapon to ease the burden on WR Julio Jones, but Lawson wasn’t on the board in either case and his ability to play defensive end in Atlanta’s scheme is too much to pass up. He’ll pair with last year’s Clemson first round edge defender, Vic Beasley, as the Falcons continues to search for pass-rush consistency. Lawson was a breakout candidate coming into the season after an excellent 329 snaps in 2014 (+16.0) and he lived up to the hype at +42.5 overall while ranking second among edge defenders against the run and 19th as a pass rusher.18. Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
Any help along the defensive front is needed and Billings has posted a two-year grade of +80.2 on 1,511 snaps. He can move around along the defensive line, though his best fit may be at nose tackle where his +47.1 run defense can shine.19. Buffalo Bills: Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
Another pick that remains the same, Conklin fits the mauling, run blocking profile that head coach Rex Ryan his looking for. He’s ranked fourth as a run blocker each of the last two years and he finished 2015 with only 11 pressures surrendered on 416 attempts.20. New York Jets: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
Okay, this is where it gets interesting. Wentz is projected to go much higher, and the hype for him is quite real at either No. 2 to the Browns or four to the Cowboys, but I’m less inclined to hand the keys to the franchise just yet. A couple years of sitting will do Wentz well, and yes he’d have that luxury in Dallas, but there are too many good players to pass up for them at the top. Wentz was as advertised at the Senior Bowl – good size, arm strength, athleticism – and all of his positives and negatives were evident in person just as they are in the film room. He has the big arm to play in a vertical passing system, driving the ball down the field, but that will be paired with some questionable decision-making, perhaps expected for a QB with so little experience. For that reason, I’m much more likely to take a chance on his talent at this part of the draft, and the Jets are a great fit for him to sit and develop.21. Washington Redskins: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
Ragland was one of a number of standouts in Alabama’s front-7, strong against both the run (+13.2) and in coverage (+9.8) while successfully blitzing and rushing off the edge at times (+7.7). With one of the worst inside linebacker situations in the NFL, Washington will be watching all of the linebacker prospects very closely. Taking a chance on Jaylon Smith would not be out of the question here.22. Houston Texans: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
The nation’s best all-around running back, Elliott brings the total package. He exhibits the sharp cutting necessary for a zone blocking running system, but he’s equally adept at getting downhill and running through contact as he was often asked to do at Ohio State. He’s a good fit for Houston’s diverse running attack and when you add in his +13.0 blocking grade that led the nation as well as a +3.1 grade in the pass game, Elliott brings many dimensions to an NFL offense.23. Minnesota Vikings: Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
The last two mocks saw the Vikings taking Carroo, but with him off the board, they take Coleman who adds a similar intermediate and deep dimension to the offense. Coleman was incredibly productive in Baylor’s offense before quarterback attrition slowed him down, finishing with 3.98 yards per route (fourth in nation) and a +20.6 receiving grade.24. Cincinnati Bengals: Jonathan Bullard, DE/DT, Florida
Alabama DT Jarran Reed was the pick in the last two mock drafts, and I’d love to give the Bengals a nose tackle here, but with Bullard still on the board there’s too much production and versatility to pass up. He can play base defensive end while sprinkling inside at times, bringing excellent play against the run as he led all interior defensive linemen at +50.5 in 2015. He’s not as productive as you’d like as a pass rusher, but he did improve to +7.7 last season.26. Pittsburgh Steelers: Su’a Cravens, S/LB, USC
Just as was the case in the first mock, Cravens goes to Pittsburgh where the inevitable Troy Polamalu comparisons will start. Cravens played mostly linebacker at USC, often lining up over the slot or setting the edge in the running game. He’s not afraid to take on blocks, as evidenced by his +23.6 grade against the run the last two years, but he’s also shown well in coverage (+20.7) and as a pass rusher (+8.8).27. Seattle Seahawks: Sheldon Day, DT, Notre Dame
Seattle adds in interior penetrator in Day who ranked fourth among interior defensive linemen as a pass rusher and sixth in the run game in 2015. He also showed the ability to line up and beat offensive tackles off the edge during Senior Bowl week, only adding to his value as a disruptor.28. Green Bay Packers: Sheldon Rankins, DT/DE, Louisville
After two productive weeks and an excellent showing during Senior Bowl week, Rankins earns the nod for Green Bay. He may seem redundant to current DE/DT, Mike Daniels, but Rankins is good enough to play all along the line, either head up on offensive linemen (where he may quietly perform better) or shooting a gap. He graded at +55.4 last season to rank second in the nation and was similarly-productive at +42.3 in 2015.29. Kansas City Chiefs: Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
Smith’s recovery from a bowl game injury is still a concern and until more information checks out, he’s more of a back-end first round or early second round player in my mock. The talent is there as he’s extremely athletic and adept at playing in coverage (+11.0 last two seasons) while showing great improvement against the run (-0.8 in 2014 to +19.0 in 2015). He’s can also shoot gaps and take on running backs as a pass rusher, something he didn’t get to do as often in 2015, but graded at +8.2 to rank 10th in the nation in 2014.30. Arizona Cardinals: Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State
Arizona gets help in the trenches where Johnson has shown well against the run, finishing third in the nation at +36.4 last year. He’s capable of winning quickly off the snap with quick hands and he added seven sacks, two hits, and 14 hurries as a pass rusher, good for a +8.8 grade. Jarran Reed is another possibility here as a similarly productive, yet different style of player.31. Denver Broncos: Adolphus Washington, DT, Ohio State
The defensive tackles continue to come off the board as Washington debuts in our mock draft after a strong showing at the Senior Bowl. Denver reached the Super Bowl off the strength of a strong defense and loaded defensive line, and with DT Malik Jackson potentially hitting free agency, Washington provides an interior pass rush presence after finishing third among interior defensive linemen at +32.5.32. Carolina Panthers: Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma
This pick stays the same. Carolina has invested in the wide receiver position in each of the last two drafts in Kelvin Benjamin and Devin Funchess, but Shepard brings a different dynamic compared to the big guys on the outside. Shepard’s route running makes Carolina’s offense even more dangerous as he picked up 974 yards from the slot while ranking second in the nation with a +27.8 receiving grade.February 9, 2016 at 1:21 am #38770znModerator2016 Mock Draft Roundup: First Edition
By Myles Simmons
With the Super Bowl complete — congratulations to the Denver Broncos, by the way — it’s time to close the chapter on last season and begin anew with 2016. Here on therams.com, we’re getting the ball rolling on the offseason with our first edition of the mock draft roundup.
There are a lot of draft analysts out there and many have thoughts about what the Rams will do with their first-round pick at No. 15 overall. In each roundup leading up to the draft on April 28, we’ll take a look at a few predictions from around the web.
As a disclaimer, do keep in mind that these are, at best, educated guesses. We’ll all find out Los Angeles’ pick at the same time in the spring when commissioner Roger Goodell reads the card from the podium in Chicago.
Without further ado, let’s get to those mock drafts.
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Given the Rams’ struggles offensively in 2015, it’s no real surprise to see many analysts predicting the club addressing the game’s most important position at No. 15. To start, ESPN’s Mel Kiper has the team taking Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch in Rd. 1.
“Do I think Lynch is a Week 1 starter? Absolutely not. Do I think he has significant upside and would be a potential starter in Year 2 with a roster still on the rise? Sure,” Kiper writes (Insider subscription required — $$).
Lynch was a common prediction for Los Angeles’ first-round pick throughout January. Kiper’s ESPN colleague, Todd McShay, also had the Memphis quarterback going to the Rams in his second mock of the offseason.
“While I still have more work to do on him, Lynch does have a lot of the tools you look for in future NFL starters — size, arm strength, mobility and the ability to create when the initial play breaks down,” McShay said (Insider subscription required — $$). “Two concerns I have early in the pre-draft process: his inconsistent decision-making and accuracy.”
Three at NFL media concur with the pick, as Daniel Jeremiah, Lance Zierlein, and Chad Rueter all have L.A. selecting Lynch at No. 15. Jeremiah noted, “Lynch is very raw, but he has unlimited potential.”
Widely considered one of the top-three quarterbacks in the 2016 draft, Lynch spent three years as Memphis’ starter, improving leaps and bounds over that time. As a redshirt freshman in 2013, Lynch completed 58.2 percent of his passes for 2,056 yards with just nine touchdowns, 10 interceptions, and 5.9 yards per attempt. But as a redshirt junior in 2015, Lynch completed 66.8 percent of his passes for 3,778 yards with 28 touchdowns, just four interceptions, and 8.5 yards per attempt.
The signal-caller tied an FBS record with seven passing touchdowns in a half during Memphis’ 63-0 blowout victory over SMU on Nov. 28. Lynch had only nine total completions in that game.
Lynch recently told a San Francisco radio station he intends to throw at the combine, which will add to the intrigue of the event later this month.
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One notable exception on the Lynch-to-the-Rams narrative is Rob Rang of The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com. He’s sticking with the quarterback position, but instead of Lynch, Rang has Cal quarterback Jared Goff falling to the Rams at No. 15.
Rang writes Goff could be the missing piece for Los Angeles contending in the NFC West, as the club already sports “Pro Bowler Todd Gurley and the playmaking Tavon Austin on offense, and the NFL’s most ferocious defensive line.”
“Goff lacks the build and arm strength scouts would prefer but he is an instinctive quarterback who wins with anticipation and accuracy,” Rang adds.
As another top QBs in the draft, Goff has come off the board within the top five picks from many analysts. He was a three-year starter for the Golden Bears, beginning that process as a true freshman in 2013 — setting numerous program single-season records that first year. He continued to re-write the Cal record books for the next two seasons, finishing 2015 completing 64.5 percent of his passes for 4,714 yards passing with 43 touchdowns, 13 interceptions, and 8.9 yards per attempt.
Goff has also indicated he plans to throw at the combine.
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Finally, for a pretty out-of-the-box prediction, the folks at Walter Football have Los Angeles selecting defensive tackle Andrew Billings out of Baylor at No. 15. Yes, you read that right, a defensive tackle.
“This may seem like a weird pick, given that the Rams have Aaron Donald and Michael Brockers starting at defensive tackle, but they’ve shown that they’re willing to take the best player available if he happens to be a very talented defensive lineman,” the site says. “That happens to be the case here, as Andrew Billings could easily be chosen in the top 10.”
Billings was the Big 12 co-Defensive Player of the Year after registering 15 tackles for loss and registering 5.5 sacks — a mark that tied for the team lead. The defensive tackle is on the young side, as he turns 21 in March. But based on his size and strength, he does have a chance to make an impact inside early on in his career.
February 9, 2016 at 1:59 pm #38776snowmanParticipant15. Los Angeles Rams: Leontee Carroo, WR, Rutgers
Before going down to injury, Carroo was outstanding at Senior Bowl practice, standing out above the rest of the wide receivers. His on-field production was just as impressive last season as he graded at +15.0 as a receiver on only 363 snaps. His 4.11 yards per route led all FBS receivers, just above Doctson’s mark of 4.03.—
I don’t get much information out of an analysis like this. I don’t care how he did in practice of an exhibition game; I don’t know what a +15 is or how it was derived; and I don’t know what ‘yards per route’ even is or why I should care about it. The numbers came from a quote posted in nj.com which was attributed to a PFF article, so the author is just recycling statements from others.
From the Rutgers website, Carroo played in 8 games as a senior with 6 starts, caught 39 passes for 809 yards and 10 TDs. He was productive when healthy, which was on and off last year. He had some of his best games against non-conference opponents but also had good numbers against the likes of Indiana and Michigan State. Rutgers did not qualify for a bowl game in 2015, maybe because Carroo missed four games. Rutgers ranked in the middle of the pack in many offensive categories among Big Ten schools, but maybe he was the best player on a fairly bad team.
February 9, 2016 at 3:27 pm #38777InvaderRamModeratornot sure i want the rams drafting a receiver. don’t seem to have much luck with that position. i think they should go after one in free agency and draft other positions.
February 9, 2016 at 3:47 pm #38780ZooeyModeratornot sure i want the rams drafting a receiver. don’t seem to have much luck with that position. i think they should go after one in free agency and draft other positions.
Drew Bennett. Laurent Robinson. Kenny Britt.
You really want to address WR through FA?
February 9, 2016 at 4:44 pm #38781snowmanParticipantDon’t forget Terrance Wilkins. ewwww….
February 9, 2016 at 5:10 pm #38782nittany ramModeratornot sure i want the rams drafting a receiver. don’t seem to have much luck with that position. i think they should go after one in free agency and draft other positions.
Drew Bennett. Laurent Robinson. Kenny Britt.
You really want to address WR through FA?
You could turn that around. Brian Quick, Chris Givens, Austin Pettis, Greg Salas, Marty Gilyard…
Perhaps it’s best if the Rams never attempt to acquire a WR by any means ever again?
They should stick to drafting RBs, DTs and DBs with every pick. They know how to do that.
- This reply was modified 8 years, 9 months ago by nittany ram.
February 9, 2016 at 6:35 pm #38784InvaderRamModeratornot sure i want the rams drafting a receiver. don’t seem to have much luck with that position. i think they should go after one in free agency and draft other positions.
Drew Bennett. Laurent Robinson. Kenny Britt.
You really want to address WR through FA?
i don’t count drew or laurent because they weren’t signed under the fisher regime.
but yeah. kenny not the best signing. but drafting wrs has arguably been worse.
i also feel more comfortable bringing in a veteran wr rather than trying to develop one when the passing game is already in rough shape.
although fisher in general has a pretty poor track record with wrs drafted or free agents.
February 9, 2016 at 7:12 pm #38785ZooeyModeratorTavon Austin.
Imagine the Rams offense without him.
I don’t think the fact that they have missed on some WRs means they can’t hit. Givens, Quick, Bailey, and Austin are the WR picked by Snisher. Gilyard, Pettis, and Salas were before Fisher.
So that isn’t really a large sample size, and nobody knows how much of that was Fisher and/or Snead, or how to rate his picks with the Titans. I will just say that “Fisher can’t draft WR” seems like a dubious claim to me.
Spend a first round pick on one.
February 9, 2016 at 11:10 pm #38793InvaderRamModeratori’d rather they draft a tight end. hunter henry sounds like he’s gonna be a good one.
i think he’d be more valuable than a wr in this offense.
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February 10, 2016 at 10:58 am #38808JackPMillerParticipantI know we need help at WR, but no way I would pass on a stud like Shaq Lawson. I would be stunned if Fisher would pass on Lawson, if he was still on the board. As much as we love Robert Quinn, can you tell me he will be back 100%. If he can, it would be a big help to have Lawson and Quinn(if he can regain his form) as the future DEs.
February 15, 2016 at 10:41 am #39006znModeratorQB, DL, OL Dominate Round 1
Pat Kirwan
https://realfootballnetwork.com/2016/02/14/qb-dl-ol-dominate-round-1/
As the long list of prospects for the 2016 NFL Draft begins to take shape, it’s becoming more and more obvious that the quarterbacks, defensive linemen, and the offensive linemen provide most of the top prospects throughout Round 1 and into Round Two.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see those three position groups account for as many as 16 of the top 31 picks. Remember, the Patriots lost their 1st round pick as part of the Deflategate scandal.
There could be as many as four QB’s taken among the top 31. We all know about Carson Wentz of North Dakota State, who seems to climb boards by the day. Paxton Lynch is a big, tall athletic looking QB out of Memphis, Jared Goff is a very productive passer out of Cal, and Connor Cook of Michigan State could also squeeze in there.
Joey Bosa leads the defensive end group, while Alabama’s A’Shawn Robinson is the best of the interior players at this point. But there could be six or seven taken in the first round alone, with another six or seven to follow in Round 2. The offensive line is led by OT’s Laremy Tunsil of Ole Miss, Ronnie Stanley of Notre Dame, and Jack Conklin of Michigan State, and a guard like LSU’s Vadal Alexander could be a late 1st or early 2nd round choice.
We haven’t even gotten to the Combine yet, so there’s still a lot of evaluation to take place. But these are some of the players who seem to be rising to the top of the class.
February 15, 2016 at 12:03 pm #39009sdramParticipantMy current, up to date, present president’s day draft thoughts. The first is I was cruising around the net yesterday instead of being productive according to my lovely wife and I saw that there’s a new message board site called larams or thelarams and there’s a poster\fan calling named sdram already posting there. Wasn’t planning on posting there but just so it’s been recorded – I am the one and true la ram fan known as sdram, at least on the rams huddle board – but all in all the handle is quite catchy don’t you think?
After reading most of the top 20 WR draft write-ups it seems to me that this years WR class seems to have several day two prospects with a decent level of route running ability. And, then Braxton Miller reads like he has a ton of untapped athletic ability and looks like at least a day two\three type of pick if not day three. Tyler Boyd, Sterling Shepard and Rashard Higgins are probable day two WR prospects that caught my attention in terms of route running ability.
With six picks as of today, it’s hard to say the Rams would take two WR’s but like almost all the pre draft stuff, it’s speculatin season. For me, last year’s en masse draft of OL prospects are a testament to what Snisher and staff can and will do to fix a problem area. And, at the same time I feel that they are golng to add talent across the roster based on their big board and evaluation process. And this is despite their current rosters perceived strengths and weaknesses.
As a guess right now, I’d say almost every position except RB and OL are in play in round 1. In terms of most likely on day one or two I would rank their probability right now as QB, DE, WR, TE, DB, LB, and WR again – seems to me like this could change as the offseason grinds on. and, hey – what the hell do I really know. I think DE should be ranked a bit high because of the talent of the draft.
To make their ‘move to la’ offseason splash I think they’re gonna sign or trade to make a big splash. And an established QB or established QB prospect seems like a very good possibility to me.
Back to WR and Miller reads to me like a bigger but less experienced version of Tayvon Austin with better outside potential.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1824414/braxton-miller
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Athletic body type and solidly-built for the position. Extraordinary athleticism and speed with sudden, explosive cutting ability. Tremendous balance and body control in all of his movements.Multiple gears to separate in his routes or as a ball carrier. Understands hesitation in his patterns, setting up defenders before bursting in different directions. Vision to be a home-run threat whenever he touches the ball.
In his one season as a receiver, showed the locating ability to track and keep his focus through the catch. Capable of the acrobatic reception. Strong arm as a passer and spins a pretty ball. Deceiving body strength to squirm out of would-be tackles. Highly productive three-year quarterback and looked natural making the transition to a skill player in 2015 – versatile player who affected the game as a receiver and rusher.
Holds several school records and was a two-time Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year. Mature leader and determined individual who wants to be great.
WEAKNESSES: Raw route-runner and lacks experience at the receiver position. Needs work with his footwork, especially at the stem of patterns. Natural hands, but had some drops in 2015, especially with the fastball.
Still learning how to properly adjust to throws and attack at the highest point. Too much east-west and will get himself in trouble looking for the big play. Alligator arms and too concerned with what’s going on in the middle of the field – often braced himself for contact or showed tentativeness in space before securing the catch.
Willing blocker, but still very raw and needs technique work. Ball security needs tightened with 30 career fumbles (three fumbles in 2015 as a non-quarterback). Doesn’t have any special teams experience.
Health is a concern with his past medical issues – missed two games due a left knee sprain (Sept. 2013); injured his throwing (right) shoulder in the 2013 Orange Bowl that required surgery (Feb. 2014); re-injured the same shoulder that summer (Aug. 2014) and missed the 2014 season after labrum surgery; left game due to concussion symptoms (Nov. 2015).
IN OUR VIEW: After starting three seasons as Ohio State’s quarterback, Miller moved to a hybrid H-Back position in 2015 for his final season of eligibility and adapted well. He enters the NFL as a wide receiver or running back, not a quarterback and his 2014 shoulder surgery ended up being a blessing in disguise, allowing Miller to speed up the inevitable transition to a skill position for the next level.
Miller is a gifted and exciting open-field athlete with game-changing speed and the twitched-up ability to be elusive, not slowing down in his cuts. He showed signs of being able to translate his ability to read defenses as a passer to reading coverages in his routes, but is still unpolished in this area and will need time as he continues his development at wide receiver.
The No. 1 concern moving forward for Miller is durability – true competitor, but can he stay healthy? Overall, while still raw, Miller is a special athlete for his size with considerable upside, putting him in the top 50 overall range. He will likely be a gadget player as an NFL rookie before competing for a starting role in year two.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2016/WR
6 *Laquon Treadwell WR 1 Ole Miss Jr 6-2 210 1
23 *Corey Coleman Injured WR 2 Baylor rJr 5-10 190 1
36 *Michael Thomas WR 3 Ohio State rJr 6-3 210 1-2
40 Josh Doctson Injured WR 4 TCU rSr 6-2 195 1-2
43 *Will Fuller WR 5 Notre Dame Jr 6-0 184 2
46 Braxton Miller WR 6 Ohio State rSr 6-1 204 2
58 *Tyler Boyd WR 7 Pittsburgh Jr 6-2 200 2
61 *Pharoh Cooper WR 8 South Carolina Jr 5-11 208 2
72 *Rashard Higgins WR 9 Colorado State Jr 6-2 188 2-3
76 Sterling Shepard WR 10 Oklahoma Sr 5-10 193 2-3
86 Leonte Carroo WR 11 Rutgers Sr 6-0 217 3
93 *Kenny Lawler WR 12 California rJr 6-2 195 3
97 *De’Runnya Wilson WR 13 Mississippi State Jr 6-4 215 3
101 *Bralon Addison WR 14 Oregon rJr 5-10 190 3-4
104 Keyarris Garrett WR 15 Tulsa rSr 6-3 221 3-4
108 Aaron Burbridge WR 16 Michigan State Sr 6-0 210 3-4
119 *Roger Lewis WR 17 Bowling Green rSo 6-1 199 3-4February 15, 2016 at 6:29 pm #39044znModeratorLos Angeles Rams Mock Draft Round-Up: Pre-NFL Combine
by Blaine Grisak
link: http://ramblinfan.com/2016/02/15/los-angeles-rams-mock-draft-round-up-pre-nfl-combine/
Every Monday here at Ramblin’ Fan, we take you around the web to get a glimpse at who the Los Angeles Rams may take with the 15th overall pick in the NFL Draft. This is a big week as the NFL Combine begins on February 23rd. After having what seemed like every expert having the Rams selecting quarterback Paxton Lynch, experts were all over the place last week with offense still being the top priority. Here’s this week’s mock draft round-up.
NFL.com 4-Round Mock Draft – Chad Reuter
15th – Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
“A new town for the Rams (same as the old town) means the need for a new strong-armed, agile gunslinger at quarterback such as Paxton Lynch.”
43. Los Angeles Rams: Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
45. Los Angeles Rams: Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh
76. Los Angeles Rams: Jack Allen, C, Michigan State
107. Los Angeles Rams: Joe Schobert, OLB, Wisconsin
CBS Sports – Rob Rang & Dane Brugler
Rang: Jared Goff, QB, California
“With rookie Pro Bowl running back Todd Gurley and the playmaking Tavon Austin on offense and the NFL’s most ferocious defensive line, the Rams are only a legitimate quarterback away from contention in the NFC West. Enter Goff, a local product sure to excite the “new” Los Angeles fan base. Goff lacks the build and arm strength scouts would prefer, but he is an instinctive quarterback who wins with anticipation and accuracy.”
Brugler: Laquan Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
“The Rams haven’t had much luck drafting the wide receiver position in the early rounds over the past 15 years, but Treadwell could change that trend.”
Walter Football – Charlie Campbell
15th – Laquan Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
“The Rams could use a big receiver to pair with Tavon Austin. They need an upgrade over Kenny Britt, while Brian Quick didn’t pan out. Here’s a receiver who could help improve the passing offense for Los Angeles. Treadwell would also help the team’s blocking for Todd Gurley.
The 6-foot-2, 229-pound Treadwell is a natural receiver who is good at winning 50-50 passes and running after the catch. However, he lacks the speed to separate from most NFL cornerbacks. Thus, he’s not a prospect on a par with A.J. Green, Julio Jones or Amari Cooper. The big wideout is a phenomenal blocker, however.
In 2015, Treadwell had 82 receptions for 1,153 yards and 11 touchdowns. He recorded 48 receptions for 632 yards and five touchdowns in 2014 before an ugly injury ended his season. Treadwell caught 72 receptions for 608 yards with five scores in 2013.”
SI – Two Round Mock Draft – Chris Burke
15th – Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
“Of all the 31 teams currently in Round 1 (sorry, New England), I might argue that the Rams are most likely to take a quarterback at their current slot. The Browns might not fall in love with a QB enough to justify taking one with the No. 2 pick, the Texans could be too low to nab their future starter and there are few other obvious landing spots. But Los Angeles can open its new era by taking the high-upside Wentz, then seeing what he can do in camp.”
43. Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama
45. Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State
Bleacher Reports Pre-Combine Mock Draft – Justis Mosqueda
15th – Laquan Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
“In 2013, the St. Louis Rams drafted Tavon Austin in the first round after years of the team kicking the can at the receiver position. Last year, the West Virginia product finally started to come on, with his main threat being in the counter run game. The Rams, who now are moving to Los Angeles, still need a traditional receiver.
Laquon Treadwell is about as traditional as pass-catchers come. He was a blue-chip prospect heading to the University of Mississippi, and he met the expectations set out for him. He’s essentially Dez Bryant with a slower projected 40-yard dash.
Treadwell aggressively attacks balls and then fights for every extra yard possible after the catch. Early-career Anquan Boldin production shouldn’t be out of the question—should Los Angeles manage to land a quarterback.”
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1/23 – Reports: Los Angeles Rams Interview Players At East-West Shrine Game
As you can see, offense is still the top priority for the Rams. In fact, in Reuter’s mock, he has three of the Rams’ first five selections being offense; Wentz, Boyd, and Allen. Reuter also has the Rams most likely replacing Johnson or Jenkins with Fuller in the second round.In other mocks it looks like Treadwell, Lynch, and Wentz are still the top choices for the Rams. However, it is possible that all three of those players are gone by the time the Rams pick at 15. Wentz could be gone to the Cleveland Browns at 2, Lynch to the Philadelphia Eagles at 13, and Treadwell could go to the Chicago Bears, Dallas Cowboys, or San Francisco 49ers.
With free agency and the combine, but as of now, these are some names to look at as the Rams prepare for the NFL Draft.
February 16, 2016 at 11:50 pm #39121znModeratorTop 40
By Pat Kirwan
https://realfootballnetwork.com/2016/02/15/02-04-16-rfn-top-32/
Well, we’ve had a few more days to evaluate some of these players, watch film, talk to scouts and personnel people around the league, and as you might expect this early in the process, there are some significant changes to our list. The biggest change is at the top.
There is no #1.
That’s right. No one has established themselves as the top player in this draft. Usually the quarterback need that drives so many teams this time of year will force a signal caller to the top of the list, but that hasn’t happened yet. If not a QB, then maybe one of the impact defensive linemen in this draft will take the spot, or one of the big offensive tackles.
It’s important to remember that this isn’t a mock draft determining who will be picked where. This is just an early stacking of the board. There will be consideration for medical issues, character issues, and the position played when stacking this list. This week, being I didn’t give you a #1, I’ll give you my top 40.
1. ??????
Yet to be determined, and if a QB doesn’t rise to the top it will be tough for the Titans to move out of the #1 spot in the draft.2. Joey Bosa, DE/OLB, Ohio State
Bosa can play all three downs, but you have to ask yourself, “Is what you see, what you get?” He looks like a finished product, which is great for early in his career, but is there upside?3. Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
This might be too high for the quarterback from a smaller school, but he did impress at the Senior Bowl and signal callers drive the draft. If your team needs a QB, he will be high on their draft board.4. Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
Big people with pass rush skills and athleticism to drop are hard to find. Lawson had 37 plays behind the line of scrimmage last year between sacks and tackles for a loss. He can play all three downs.5. Laremy Tunsil, LT, Mississippi
The best left tackle in the draft, but has had off the field issues that have to be cleared up by teams before I can move him up on the list. He reminds me of the Jets D’Brickashaw Ferguson.6. A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
Big men that can move and be disruptive inside are very hard to find, and this guy can play in any scheme and multiple spots along the front. He has more pass rush/pressure skills than his stats might indicate.7. Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA
Injuries have pushed him down from the top five, but his Combine physicals might clear up some of those issues. He may fall on this list because teams really have to rely on 2014 game tapes to determine his final value, but the traits are there for a successful NFL career.8. Jalen Ramsey, S/CB, Florida State
It appears he can play anywhere on the back end of a defense, and a little at ‘backer in a sub package. Is the versatility a sign of greatness, like a Patrick Peterson, or is it a sign of a jack of all trades and a master of none? The films I watched indicate he is a top flight athlete who can play well at multiple spots.9. DeForest Buckner, DL, Oregon
The numbers aren’t great, but the size and disruptiveness are a big plus. I remember when teams felt Calais Campbell wasn’t a first round talent, but he became an All-Pro because of the things I see in Buckner. He had 28 plays behind the line of scrimmage this past season.10. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Mississippi
Not the speed burner some teams are looking for, but a big play wide receiver. In three seasons he had 196 receptions and 18 touchdowns. Any true freshman that comes into the SEC and has 72 receptions and 5 touchdowns has proven to me that he can make the jump to the next level.11. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
I don’t think Elliott will go this high in the draft, but he is a talent, as proven by his 37 touchdowns and 3,540 yards in the past two seasons. I usually have some concerns about running backs from big time programs with NFL-type offensive linemen in front, but this kid’s 54 receptions in the past two years set him apart.12. Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
The cornerback position is far from being fully evaluated and I suspect there will be a re-shuffling of the deck through the winter and spring. He is not a 6’0”-plus corner, but he can press, blitz and tackle. I suspect he will move up this list after the combine if he runs well.13. Jared Goff, QB, California
He came out of high school PAC-12 ready and delivered right away with 18 touchdown passes as a freshman. He went on to finish his career with 90! Some worry about his physique, while others are concerned about the offense he was in at Cal. His combine and pro day workouts will go a long way towards convincing clubs about his pro potential as a top 10 pick.14. Noah Spence, DE/OLB, Eastern Kentucky
The former Ohio State player has had serious off the field issues, but he did go to the Senior Bowl to improve his image. If he had a clean character rating he would be a top 10 prospect. No one could block him down in Mobile, and who isn’t looking for a pass rusher like this guy. Risk and reward is the main issue here, and someone will conclude they can get the best out of him.15. Robert Nkemdiche, DE, Mississippi
Here’s another super talented player with questions about his decision making skills off the field. He can play anywhere across the front and has the QABS (quickness, agility, balance, speed) to make plays. Is he going to fail the drug test and make himself unavailable?16. Jarran Reed, DL, Alabama
He showed me plenty by showing up at the Senior Bowl when most players with his draft status stay home. He is a solid two down player with some questions about his pass rush skills at the next level. Coaches like working with guys like Reed, and it could go a long way to keeping him this high on the list.17. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
Stanley has played both right and left tackle and has pass blocking skills. There are times he looks average to me, and other times he looks very solid. I just finished watching the game against Clemson, and I felt like putting him down in the 20’s, but decided to move Shaq Lawson up the list instead.18. Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
A 4-3 three technique kind of athlete with burst and explosiveness. He will find himself in different spots on draft boards. Teams that play a 3-4 base defense may not see him as high as the 4-3 teams. He does have 35 plays behind the line of scrimmage in the past two seasons, but is more of a disrupter than a sacker. He is not the second coming of Aaron Donald, but he can play.19. Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA
Another 4-3 three technique type with the QABS to make plays and be disruptive. His 122 tackles in the last two seasons shows an ability to be around the ball, but this is a rich class in defensive linemen and time will tell if he can move up the list.20. Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State
When in doubt, take a big offensive tackle in the first round. He may not have the QABS to line up at left tackle for his entire career, but after watching the tackles in the Super Bowl, Decker could have helped both teams.21. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
There are some that believe he is the best QB in the draft, and others that see him as a second round talent. There’s a significant history of teams jumping back into the bottom of the first round to get a QB (Joe Flacco-Delaware). In the last two years, Lynch threw 50 touchdowns and passed for 5,726 yards with only 12 interceptions. He’s big and can run, and after talking with him recently, someone is going to see their future in this young man.22. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
In the last two seasons, Ogbah has 110 tackles, 35 tackles for a loss, and 24 sacks. Anytime I see a major college player with 59 plays behind the line of scrimmage in 26 games, it grabs my attention. He has the QABS to be effective in the NFL and appears to have the ability to convert his speed to power, which is necessary at the next level. If he runs well at the Combine, he could start to climb.23. Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
A late injury might be the only thing keeping this young man from being closer to the top ten. He can play any of the linebacker spots and probably is better suited for a 4-3 defense. He had close to 300 tackles in three seasons and plays the pass well enough to be a nickel ‘backer.24. Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
Some have him in the second round, and he may very well wind up there, but after watching three Ohio State games, he has some traits of Richard Sherman as a CB, with solid skills to turn and run, close and compete for the ball. His four interceptions at Ohio State doesn’t give a true representation of his play ability.25. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
He had a solid week at the Senior Bowl and demonstrated throughout the 2015 season that he can be a penetrating three technique. In the past two years, he has 42 plays behind the line of scrimmage.26. Jason Spriggs, LT, Indiana
There really aren’t many left tackle candidates in this draft, especially for all the teams that need one. Before the Senior Bowl he was being advertised as a right tackle candidate, but he did enough at practice and in the game to turn people’s heads. Every year, offensive linemen that come to Mobile as second round prospects leave as first round guys, and Spriggs could be that guy in 2016.27. Jack Conklin, LT, Michigan State
Conklin decided to not attend the Senior Bowl and I believe it would have helped his draft status. He can play left and right tackle, and his run blocking skills are as solid as his pass blocking. He should rise as the draft approaches and the NFL line coaches get into Michigan State to work him out.28. Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana State
Coaches paid a lot of attention to Butler during Senior Bowl week, and for good reason. He can play! At 6’4, 325, he has the ability to play in any front.29. Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
Another in a long line of solid linebackers from Alabama. He can lineup in the NFL right now on the inside, call a defense, and take on the run game. Ezekiel Elliott told me no one ever hit him harder than Ragland. He came to the Senior Bowl to prove he could rush the passer from the outside linebacker spot.30. Jonathan Bullard, DE, Florida
Three year production total included 142 tackles, 29 tackles for a loss, and 11 sacks. He appears to be able to play across the front. If he runs as fast as advertised at the Combine, he could move up the list.31. Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
The TE class is shallow this year, but if your team needs a tight end this is the top choice. I do like Nick Vannett as my second choice, but Henry is the complete player. He can block and averaged 14 yards on 111 receptions in his career.32. Vadal Alexander, OG, Louisiana State
I watched big Vadal all week at the Senior Bowl, and at times he looked like a man among boys. He can play tackle, but excels at guard. Any team looking to protect the midline pocket passer will love his skill set.33. Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
An NFL left defensive end in a 4-3, or a 5-technique in a 3-4. He has pass rush skills. A one year wonder in some people’s eyes, but the tapes don’t lie, and 36 plays behind the line of scrimmage in 2015 tells the tale of a solid prospect.34. Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
I may move him up when I get done watching enough of his games, but he was benched for a short period of time in 2015 and really is an OLB pass rusher.35. Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama
Henry has been under the microscope since winning the Heisman, and his critics say he’s a front side power runner. There are teams that really like this type of runner. In the second round it will be hard for zone scheme teams to pass up a back like this.36. Kendall Fuller, DB, Virginia Tech
Injury issues are part of the equation for Fuller, unfortunately. But he can play, and comes from an NFL family. His 2014 efforts would have made him a first round pick and his pro day, when he’s healthy, will go a long way towards putting him in the first round.37. Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
A lot of people already have him high up in the first round. I talked to a few scouts who visit Clemson on a pretty regular basis, and they warned me to temper the excitement. The kid has coverage skills, but has never had an interception. More work to be done here.38. Adolphus Washington, DE, Ohio State
I watched him a lot at the Senior Bowl. He has very good get off and really fits in a 4-3 scheme as a left end or tackle. He had some off the field issues, but may have answered them at the Senior Bowl during interviews with coaches and scout. He had 13 sacks and close to 30 tackles for a loss in college.39. Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
There was a time when he was the top rated QB in the draft. So many teams are looking for that ‘future’ QB in the second and third rounds after they take care of their primary needs. His completion percentage is under 60%, but Michigan State throws a lot more balls down the field. He does have 70 touchdown passes in three seasons.40. Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State
Here’s a hybrid linebacker with safety skills, which means he can stay on the field for all three downs. He’s a 4-3 WLB with coverage skills to play in the slot, but also had 12 sacks in two seasons.February 17, 2016 at 12:05 am #39123znModeratorKirwan has 15 D-linemen in his top 40.
8 DEs, 7 DTs.
February 17, 2016 at 10:26 pm #39193znModeratorfrom off the net
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I think CB is missing a real high end shut down guy like Peterson, but is so much better then last year.
DT is stupid deep with tons of high end talent.
This DE class is so money in the first & 2nd rounds.
Safety is fine, but outside of Ramsey, there are very few ballhawking types. Plenty of box guys.
TE is scary outside of Henry. And by scary, I mean the bust factor is strong. So much raw meat.
RB is a mess outside of Elliott. Value is found later on IMO. Next year will have a great RB class.
LBer has guys that can play all over, it is also deep everywhere, 4-3 OLB, 4-3 MLB, 3-4 Edge, 3-4 ILB.
I like the upside and depth of the QB class, but it doesn’t have that 1 WoW guy. At least without having a crystal ball.
WR is deep and kind of steady throughout the rounds, just no WR that checks all the boxes. And if Treadwell runs in the mid 4.6s…well wow.
C is interesting. I think a lot of these guys are zone type centers. Good for the Rams. I could see Tuerk being a target with LA and Fisher and USC and all.
I really haven’t paid much attn. to the OGs, after last draft.
OT is solid, Shon Coleman is a good kid with a courageous story. I hope he climbs.
Pre-combine top 5 at each position
Top 5 QBs:
1. Jared Goff – Cal – Maybe I am tempering expectations of my guy Wentz, maybe I am trying to protect him a little by not having him #1, But at this moment Goff is more advanced with more games and higher competition, so for now Goff is #1.
2. Carson Wentz – NDSU- 2nd most upside with less downside. Comes from a pro style offense, proto size, with an NFL arm. Mobile and willing runner.
3. Paxton Lynch – Memphis – Most upside, but needs time. Big, athletic QB that checks a ton of boxes. Like Wentz, level of competion. Wentz answered those questions at the Senior bowl. Lynch couldn’t.
4. Connor Cook – Mich. St. – Pluses are pro style offense and prototype size and arm. Negatives are accuracy and attitude?
5. Christian Hackenberg – Penn State – left for dead by Coach Franklin, showed tons of promise under Bill O’Brien. Prototypical size and a big arm. Needs mechanical work.
Top 5 RBs:
1. Ezekiel Elliott – Ohio State – Does everything well. Great size for the position. Didn’t catch a ton of balls for OSU.
2. Derrick Henry – Ala. – Big back at 240 lbs. Tough to bring down once he gets going, but much less effective going east/west.
3. Kenneth Dixon – La. Tech – another back that does everything well. Can catch the ball, and is a tough runner that gets YAC.
4. Devontae Booker – Utah – plays bigger then his 205 lb size. Big YAC guy in college, but I don’t see that continuing at the NFL level. Quick and elusive.
5. Alex Collins – Arkansas – another tougher, north south guy. While a very good back, not special in any area.
Top 5 WRs:
1. Laquan Treadwell – Ole Miss – wins 50/50 balls, most physical blocker at WR I’ve ever looked at, and has great hands. His 40 time might determine where he ultimately ends up.
2. Michael Thomas – Ohio State – Todays NFL #1 WR body. He’s a size, speed guy that could end up challenging Treadwell for 1st WR off the board. In a more wide open offense, he could of put up video game numbers.
3. Will Fuller – ND – Maybe THE deep threat in the draft. Want some draft speak? He can take the top off a defense. He can stretch the field vertically. Well you get the picture.
4. Tyler Boyd – Pitt – Needs some weight, but he hjas good hands, gets seperation and is dangerous with the ball in his hands. Very smooth WR. DUI red flag.
5. Corey Coleman – Baylor – 5′-9″ to 5′-10″. Tavon Austin-lite. Not a fit for the Rams.
Top 5 TE:
1. Hunter Henry – Arkansas – Better blocker then he’s getting credit for. Plays all over, from H-back to TE inside and out. Athetic and causes matchup problems @ 6′-6″. A TE that would never have to come off the field for a decade. How valuable is that?
2. Austin Hooper – Stanford – Another mismatch at 6′-4″ with his athleticism. Not the blocker henry is, but its not terrible either.
3. Nick Vannett – Ohio State – Had an up and down week at the Senior Bowl. he had drops. But also had some great catches. Good blocker, but not the athletic reciever the first 2 are.
4. Jerrel Adams – South Carolina – Under the radar guy who is 6′-6″ and pretty quick. Needs to add size to block in the NFL.
5. Bryce Williams – East Carolina – For a guy 6′-6″ and 260, he moves well. Also not the blocker you would think he is.
Top 5 OTs:
1. Laremy Tunsil – Ole Miss – Plug and Play LT for a decade. Safest pick in the draft IMO. Athletic, smooth and handles the run as well as the pass. Red Flag is a no concern issue for me.
2. Ronnie Stanley – ND – The other true LT in the draft. Nothing Flashy but another plug and ignore LT for 10 years.
3. Taylor Decker – RT to start, could end up as a LT. has had issues with speed rushers.
4. Jack Conklin – RT only for now. Just not athletic enough for the left side. A strong, brawler type.
5. Jason Spriggs – Indiana – Another LT/RT type. Played well at senior bowl. Opposite of Conklin, better pass blocker then run blocker as he needs to add strength.
Top 5 OGs:
1. Cody Whitehair – Kansas State – Tackle moving inside to OG. Reminds me of a less athletic Zac Martin. Tough as nails guy that needs some more size .
2. Vadal Alexander – LSU – a mountain of a man that swallows up defenders. Needs some refinement in his technique, but a durable, punisher in the run game.
3. Joshua Garnett – Stanford – another in a long line of good OL from the cardinal. Could use some strength, but can run and pass block, and moves very well.
4. Sebastian Tretola – Arkansas – Arkansas had the best pair of OGs in the country. His game is based on power, lots of it. Man scheme fit only, he doesn’t move, at all.
5. Spencer Drango – Baylor – He is a OT that I have as a OG. He is just built like a OG in my eye. Could be a steal if he makes the transition.
Top 5 Centers:
1. Ryan Kelly = Ala. – Better run blocker then pass blocker makes him a good fit for the Rams. Can he add more size? I hope so.
2. Nick Martin – ND – Brother of Zac Martin. 2 year team captain. Same exact size as Kelly, so can he add size?
3. Jack Allen – Mich. State – another 2 year captain. A HS wrestler (which I love), was overpowered at times at the Senior Bowl. At 6′-2″ he might have more issues adding size and power over the 2 guys above him.
4. Evan Boehm – Mizzou – biggest of my top 5 at 310. Also the most physical of the 5. Not the most gifted athlete. I like him in a man power scheme where is doesn’t have to move.
5. Max Tuerk – Tallest and lightest OC in my top 5. he wins with his skill and athleticism. ACl red Flag and needs to add some weight.
Top 5 DTs:
1. A’Shawn Robinson – Ala. – Smooth, strong athlete that is a decade long 3 down defender. Consistancy has been an issue.
2. Andrew Billings – Baylor – Baylor defenders make me nervous, but I am a sucker for powerhouses and he defines that term. he is a bull in a china shop. Strong, reckless and a bit out of control. If he plays more under control, his burst and strength would make him extremely dangerous.
3. Robert Knemdiche – Ole Miss – Not the pass rusher he should be, and smoking weed then jumping off a 15 foot tall wall and injuring himself leads to all sorts of red flag stuff. But at the end of the day, he is a freak athlete that saw a ton of attn. from offenses.
4. Sheldon Rankins – Louisville – A inside pass rusher will make him a valued commodity come draft day.
5. Vernon Butler – La State – Strong, explosive, has some rush moves. A good DL coach could transform him into a monster, because its all there.
Top 5 DEs:
1. Joey Bosa – Ohio State – Maybe not the highest ceiling, but his floor is where most ceilings stop. 3 down end that is strong and explosive. He also sets a very good edge in the run game.
2. Shaq Lawson – Clemson – A size speed strength guy that can drop into coverage, defends the run and gets after the QB. And one of my favorite draft phrases: He converts speed into power.
3. Emmanuel Ogbah – Okla. State – Read: Lawson, Shaq, except he is a little raw. A base 4-3 end that has more speed then you would think a guy that size has. I like him as a Rams target in the 1st round.
4. DeForest Buckner – Oregon – Oregon guys make me nervous, but he is better than Erik Armstead from last year. He’s a 3-4 DE only in my mind.
5. Kevin Dodd – Clemson – Non stop motor that had actual production. Meaning, not just a try hard guy that almost gets to the Qb. A 4-3 base end to start out with a massive ceiling. Rams 2nd round target?
Top 3 Edge Rushers:
Not going to spend a ton of time on these guys since they don’t fit what the Rams are doing.
1. Noah Spence – Eastern Kentucky – Repeated drug tests failures and an addiction to ecstacy got him banned from the big 10 permanently. Smooth operator that played up and down in his stance, left and right sides and has a massive burst. Top 10 talent…
2. Leonard Floyd – Georgia – Light frame, but strong. Good motor that can rush the QB with his agility and burst. Late, late first, early 2nd round.
3. Kyler Fackrell – Utah State – Older kid at 25, needs to add strength. Can drop into coverage for a guy 6′-4′ and 245. Tough player with no quit and apparently no red flags what so ever.
Top 5 OLBs:
1. Myles Jack – UCLA – a stud athlete that can pass cover, rush the QB and plays sideline to sideline. Top 5 prospect, even after injury. I wish he was a little more physical.
2. Jaylon Smith – ND – I like him more inside then outside, but a rare prospect none the less. He was a top 5 pick before the knee gave out in his bowl game. Flexible, quick and a violent tackler. 3 down backer inside or out.
3. Darron Lee – Ohio State – Sideline to sideline OLB that has issues once he gets engaged by a blocker. Narrow lower half makes me think he is maxed out size wise.
4. Su’a Cravens – USC – I love his recognition (he’s always in the play) and his aggresiveness. I wish he had more size, but he’s a kamakazee on the field.
5. Nick Vigil – He could play inside as well, but I think is better suited for the weakside in a 4-3. Athletic that needs to add strength. Aggressive player.
Top 5 MLBs:
1. Jaylon Smith – ND – See above. I will add that on the inside he compares to Kuechly and Willis.
2. Myles Jack – UCLA – Yeah I’m cheating. Like him more outside where he can stay cleaner.
3. Reggie Ragland – Ala. – Prototypical 3-4 ILB, big, strong and aggressive. 3 things I love. Was he helped out by his DL? Maybe a little, but he’s a stud.
4.Scooby Wright – Arizona – One of my favorites. 3 down backer that is a tazmanian devil with pass rush skills. Can play inside and out. Relentless is a word I like with him. Sometimes to relentless and will overrun the action. No idea where his injury history puts him in the draft.
5. Kentrell Brothers – Mizzou – Another inside/ outside guy that won’t come off the field. Only 6′ tall. Physical and aggressive but not exactly what I would call explosive.
Top 5 CBs:
1. Vernon Hargreaves – Florida – 6′-0′ and 200 lbs. He has shutdown corner ability. had a rough bowl game but I still like him more then the other corners.
2. Mackensie Alexander – Clemson – 5-10″ with zero ints., but he is a physical corner with a ton of swagger and very good technique.
3. Eli Apple – Ohio State – 6′-1″ with long arms, he is the future of NFL CBs, but he is raw. I wished he stayed at OSU for 1 more year. A tad bit handsy.
4. Kendall Fuller – Virginia Tech – 6′-0″ 200 lbs with injury history. His tape, is spotty at best. And you have to go back to his soph. year to even look at tape. 2nd rounder IMO.
5. Artie Burns – Miami – 6′ corner that is a track star. I love his awareness and upside.
Top 5 S:
1. Jalen Ramsey – A generational talent at S that can also play CB at a high level. 6′-1″ and over 200 lbs makes him an ideal FS IMO. Smooth. Just smooth. Moving, changing direction, in his backpedal… He is also a very effective blitzer. Add some muscle, call it a decade with him.
2. Jalen Mills – LSU – good speed and locates the ball well. I like him as a FS only. Needs to improve his tackling. Its not that he doesn’t want to tackle, he is just not very technically sound.
3. Keanu Neal – Florida – 6′-1″ 220, tough, strong safety in the mold of McDonald. More effective in the box. Needs coverage work.
4. Jeremy Cash – Duke – 6′-0″ 215, fills up a stat sheet, makes tackles behind the LoS, again, needs ball skill work.
5. Karl Joseph – WVU – physical safety that actually can pick off a pass. Unfortunately was injured early so there is that flag. Has a chance to climb.
February 17, 2016 at 11:07 pm #39196znModeratorBOSA AND BUCKNER TOP PFF’S FIRST 2016 NFL DRAFT BOARD
Steve Palazzolo and the analysis team compile the first PFF Draft Board of the season.
PFF’s draft board is here. While we have two full years of grading on every FBS player, the board is not strictly based on the grades — though it’s heavily influenced by our snap-to-snap evaluations. Our analysts have gone back into the film room to break down each prospect in even more depth, bringing context to their PFF grade while also considering athleticism, upside, and any other relevant part of player evaluation. Our evaluations will continue right up until the draft, so the board is a fluid process, and we’ll continue to build it right up until Day 1.
Positional value is taken into account when compiling the board.
Joey Bosa, edge defender, Ohio State
The best player in the draft has been the nation’s top edge defender against the run while ranking first and second as a pass rusher each of the last two seasons.DeForest Buckner, defensive interior, Oregon
Similar to Bosa, Buckner was the most productive interior defensive lineman by a wide margin. He’s a playmaker against the run and able to get into the backfield as a pass rusher.Jared Goff, QB, Cal
The top-graded QB in the nation this season after ranking eighth a year ago, Goff’s combination of pocket presence, toughness under pressure, and downfield accuracy make him the top option.Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
There’s some projection to Wentz’s game, but the raw tools are impressive, as was our first look at his game. While his timing isn’t always on point in the passing game, he has the big arm and athleticism to mask that inexperience as he grows.Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
With six strong games under his belt in 2015, we’d like to see a larger sample size of dominant play, but Tunsil is an explosive run blocker and he handled an impressive slate of edge rushers to allow only five pressures on the year.Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
Our top coverage linebacker in 2014, Jack played only 207 snaps in 2015 due to injury. He’s versatile enough to move around the formation while holding his own in coverage and he’s powerful when attacking blocks in the run game.Jalen Ramsey, CB/S, Florida State
The biggest question about Ramsey is where he plays in the NFL, but his versatility should make him a solid option at either cornerback or safety. He put together two strong years of grades despite playing at free safety, in the slot, and outside cornerback.Chris Jones, defensive interior, Mississippi State
The power is the first thing that stands out, and it was put to good use as Jones ranked fourth in the nation among interior defensive linemen at +54.2. He can move blockers at the point of attack and push the pocket, and he still has room to grow as a player.Sheldon Rankins, Defensive Interior, Louisville
With two straight years of dominant play, Rankins can play a number of positions along the defensive front, attacking blockers in the run game while providing a strong pass rush. He has only two negatively-graded games in our two seasons of data.Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
Whether creating separation before the catch or yards after it, Coleman’s athleticism stands out. He has the ability to make plays at all levels of the field.Shaq Lawson, edge defender, Clemson
The second-best all-around edge defender behind Bosa, Lawson is strong on the edge in the run game while posting the No. 8 pass rushing grade in the class.Noah Spence, edge defender, Eastern Kentucky
We have little information about Spence, but the upside was evident at the Senior Bowl when he dominated practice and carried it into the game. Even though he may not do much as a run defender, Spence’s burst off the edge and pass rush potential is the best in the class.William Jackson III, CB, Houston
The second-best coverage grade in the draft class, Jackson is an aggressive, good-sized corner who will contest a lot of catches and make plays on the defensive side.Mackenzie Alexander, CB, Clemson
Trapped in a Clemson defensive scheme that hung him out to dry with a lot of soft, off-coverage, Alexander may be a far better pro player than he was in college. Has all the traits of a top, shutdown corner.Leonte Carroo, WR, Rutgers
A good combination of speed and separation skills, Carroo was incredibly productive on only 363 snaps last season averaging 4.11 yards per route to lead all FBS receivers.Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
One of the most consistent pass protecting tackles in the nation, Stanley should carry that to the next level while his run blocking is sufficient in the right scheme.Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
A power scheme is ideal for Conklin who moves defenders at the point of attack while holding up well in pass protection. His two-year body of work is right up there with any offensive tackle in the nation on a snap-for-snap basis.Robert Nkemdiche, Defensive Interior, Ole Miss
Perhaps the most disruptive interior pass rusher in the draft, Nkemdiche has some questions about his ideal fit, but he’s gotten after the quarterback the last two seasons and he improved greatly against the run in 2015.Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida
In 2014 Hargreaves posted the best coverage grade we have seen from this draft class across two seasons of college tape. Didn’t repeat it in 2015 but still shows a lot of impressive tape and ball skills. Only negative is size.Shilique Calhoun, Edge Defender, Michigan State
No edge rusher had a better pass rushing grade than Calhoun in 2015, and he was strong in that department in 2014 as well. He’s not nearly as stout against the run, but did show that he can be productive in the run game in 2014.Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
The best all-around running back in the draft and perhaps the nation, Elliott boasted the top run grade in the class in 2014 and then led the nation as a blocker in 2015. His ability to run, catch and block will put him on the field early and often.Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame
Injury aside, Smith’s athleticism stands out and it often shows when in coverage and as a pass rusher. He’s not bad in the run game, though he’s not as strong at the point of attack as other linebackers in the class. If healthy, Smith has a chance to be a three-down playmaker at the next level.Scooby Wright III, LB, Arizona
Few linebackers possess Wright’s instincts and block-shedding ability, and he looks like a plus run defender in the NFL if he’s healthy. The question for Wright is his athleticism in space, but we’ve seen other linebackers stay productive with similar concerns.Andrew Billings, defensive interior, Baylor
One of the strongest players in the draft, Billings is stout at the point of attack and perhaps the best nose tackle option in the draft. He was also got after the quarterback among the best in the country the past two seasons.Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
Our top-graded WR before going down to injury last season, Doctson routinely makes incredible catches, turning off-target throws into big plays. That downfield ability makes him one of the most exciting playmakers in the draft.Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
While he doesn’t create the same kind of separation you’d like to see from a top wide receiver prospect, Treadwell is strong (though inconsistent) at the catch point and good with the ball in his hands after the catch.Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State
After ranking fourth in the nation among offensive tackles in 2014 and first in 2015, Whitehair is projected to move to guard at the next level, something we saw during Senior Bowl week. He acquitted himself well, and he has the potential to be the next successful tackle to guard convert in the NFL.Sheldon Day, Defensive Interior, Notre Dame
Disruption is the name of the game for Day who excels at shooting gaps, though he could stand to finish better. His overall grade ranked second behind only Buckner among interior defensive linemen in 2015.Jonathan Bullard, DI, Florida
Our top-graded run defender on the interior in 2015, Bullard is excellent at recognizing blocks, disrupting schemes and making plays. He doesn’t have a clean positional home, but has the versatility to play all along the defensive line.Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama
While some of the other linebackers are stronger in certain areas, Ragland is solid across the board. He can work downhill in the running game, and his ability to hold up in coverage and create pressure should make him a third down chess piece at the next level.Austin Johnson, defensive interior, Penn State
Boasting the No. 3 run stopping grade in the nation in 2015, Johnson beats blockers with quick hands to disrupt the backfield and that bodes well for his upside as a pass rusher. His skills were on display with a strong week at the Senior Bowl.Adolphus Washington, defensive interior, Ohio State
Another strong all-around player, Washington is stout at the point of attack, but strong and quick enough to blow up plays as well. His +32.0 pass rush grade ranked third in the nation and he was solid in the run game.Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State
Production took a hit due to inconsistent quarterback play, but Thomas knows how to get open and he was a big play threat when targeted.Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma
Our top-graded wide receiver in 2015, Shepard combines nifty route running with underrated downfield ball skills. Even though most of his work is done from the slot, he has the quickness to produce and validate his standing at the top of the draft.Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
Few tight ends can work the middle of the field like Henry who has averaged 14.3 yards per reception over the last two years. He’s only dropped two of his 90 catchable targets during that time.Jarran Reed, defensive interior, Alabama
With our second-best grade against the run in 2015, Reed is rarely moved at the point of attack and he knows how to shed in make plays, as indicated by his nation-leading run stop percentage of 13.4 percent. He can play nose tackle, but also looks the part of a 3-4 defensive end if needed.Kenny Clark, defensive interior, UCLA
Another strong interior defensive lineman, Clark is excellent at feeling and defeating all types of blocks — a big reason he was the No. 2 interior defensive lineman against the run in 2014. He took a slight step back in that area in 2015, but added more pass rush to his game.Emmanuel Ogbah, edge defender, Oklahoma State
A one-dimensional player in 2015, Ogbah boasted the third-best pass rush grade among all edge rushers, though he settled in around average against the run. The potential is there to improve in that department but it may limit his usage early on.Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
The size and arm strength are impressive, as is Lynch’s three-year development at Memphis, but he’s just a notch below the other quarterbacks in this class. His accuracy at the intermediate level is concerning, particularly outside the numbers where his accuracy percentage is among the worst in the nation.Joe Schobert, OLB, Wisconsin
One of the nation’s most productive players the last two seasons, Schobert may be viewed as a traditional linebacker at the next level, but he should be given a chance to rush the passer where he ranked fourth in pass rush productivity in 2015 and led the nation in 2014February 21, 2016 at 1:12 pm #39396sdramParticipantAnother 7 round Mock – draftsite.com
http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/los-angeles/40/
1 15 Paxton Lynch* QB Memphis 6′ 7″ 245
2 43 Nick Martin OC Notre Dame 6′ 4″ 300
2 45 Jayron Kearse* S Clemson 6′ 5″ 220
3 76 Austin Hooper* TE Stanford 6′ 4″ 255
4 111 Braxton Miller WR Ohio State 6′ 1″ 210
5 Forfeit
6 193 Clay DeBord OT Eastern Washington 6′ 6″February 21, 2016 at 5:30 pm #39409znModeratorMack & Ag.
I moved your posts to this thread, cause of “fit”:
QBs in the draft thread 2: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/qbs-in-the-draft-thread-2/
February 22, 2016 at 10:42 am #39446znModeratorConsensus Big Board
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cfb/60543/325/consensus-big-board-10
I’ll be tossing these up every few weeks on Mondays, so check back over the next month-plus to see how the Consensus Big Board fluctuates with the ebbs and flows of the process. For reference’s sake, I’ve averaged out the boards of Pro Football Focus (February 17), ESPN’s Todd McShay (February 18), CBS Sports’ Rob Rang (February 17) and Rotoworld’s Josh Norris (February 19). You can check out Josh’s full Big Board here.
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1. Ohio State DE Joey Bosa, 6-foot-5, 275 pounds
Highest- Of our four Big Boards in question, every one other than Norris placed Bosa at No. 1.Lowest- Norris dropped him all the way to No. 2.
2. Ole Miss T Laremy Tunsil, 6-foot-5, 305 pounds
Highest- Rang slots Tunsil in at No. 2 while McShay ranks him at No. 3.Lowest- PFF’s analysis team and Josh Norris are less frisky on him, with PFF ranking him No. 5 and Norris No. 7.
3.FSU CB/S Jalen Ramsey, 6-foot-1, 202 pounds
Highest- McShay’s super-duper impressed, placing Ramsey at No. 2. Rang’s right behind him with Ramsey as his third best prospect in this class.Lowest- PFF and Norris fall in lockstep here, more or less, with Norris placing Ramsey at No. 6 and PFF waiting until No. 7 to spring his name.
4. UCLA LB Myles Jack, 6-foot-1, 222 pounds
Highest- Norris’ No. 1 prospect. Rang’s next up at No.4, with PFF at No. 5.Lowest- Hit the road, Jack. McShay ranks the UCLA standout at No. 11.
5. Oregon DE DeForest Buckner, 6-foot-7, 290 pounds
Highest- Buckner’s had himself a nice week of Internet chatter in the draft community, with both ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. and NFL.com’s Lance Zierlein hopping the Duck terror over Buckeye Bosa in mock drafts. PFF’s first Big Board similarly pushed Buckner’s name to the forefront, ranking him at No. 2 behind Bosa. Check back in a few weeks to see if there’s tangible upward movement on the Big Boards.Lowest- Norris doesn’t let Buckner crash the party until No. 12. Rang and McShay find a middle ground between the sky-high ranking by PFF and the less chipper ranking of Norris, slotting him at No. 7 and No. 6, respectively.
6. Notre Dame OT Ronnie Stanley, 6-foot-6, 315 pounds
Highest- Rang (6), Norris (8) and McShay (5) all more or less see Stanley in the same range.Lowest- PFF, however, doesn’t unveil Stanley until No. 16.
7. Cal QB Jared Goff, 6-foot-4, 215 pounds
Highest- The writers at PFF think highly of both Goff and NDSU’s Carson Wentz, placing the Cal gunslinger at No. 3. While not quite as high on him, McShay (9) and Rang (10) see Goff similarly.Lowest- Norris doesn’t see a franchise quarterback in the 2016 pool, placing Goff onto his Big Board at No. 23.
8. North Dakota State QB Carson Wentz, 6-foot-5, 231 pounds
Highest- PFF places Wentz just behind Goff at No. 4. McShay’s got him at No. 8.Lowest- Rang (11) and Norris (24) are more conservative in their rankings of the Bison product. A few fun (?) quarterback notes: All four analysts placed Goff and Wentz next to each other. Three of them ranked Goff a spot above Wentz, while McShay quietly shuffled Wentz ahead. Neither Rang nor PFF have another quarterback cracking the top-32.
9. Ohio State RB Ezekiel Elliott, 6-foot, 225 pounds
Highest- You won’t have to scroll long on Josh Norris’ rankings to find Elliott. Zeke turns up at No. 3 on his Big Board.Lowest- Nobody else in our quartet is tossing Elliott up quite that high. Rang’s next at No. 9, while McShay (15) and PFF (21) aren’t as keen to place a running back in the single digits of their big boards.
10. Louisville DT Sheldon Rankins, 6-foot-2, 304 pounds
Highest- McShay includes the Cardinals’ stud at No. 7 on his board, while PFF and Norris are similarly high, with both outfitting Rankins at No. 9.Lowest- Rob Rang’s far more cautious here, waiting until No. 24 to unveil Rankins.
11. Florida CB Vernon Hargreaves IIII, 5-foot-11, 198 pounds
Highest- McShay at No. 4. No other analyst ranks him in the top-10.Lowest- Everybody who isn’t McShay. Technically, PFF’s lowest with Hargreaves at No. 19, but Rang (13) and Norris (16) aren’t far off from their analysis team.
12. Clemson DE Shaq Lawson, 6-foot-3, 275 pounds
Highest- CBS Sports’ Rang by a fair margin with Lawson at No. 5. PFF comes next placing the Clemson star at No. 11.Lowest- Rotoworld’s Josh Norris ranks Lawson at No. 17 while McShay rounds out the bunch with a Lawson sighting at No. 21.
13. Ole Miss WR Laquon Treadwell, 6-foot-2, 212 pounds
Highest- Rotoworld’s Norris puts the Ole Miss beast at No. 5, while Rob Rang also keeps him in single-digits at No. 8.Lowest- Not tossing Treadwell into single-digits, McShay (17). Almost leaving him off the top-32 entirely, PFF (26).
14. Ole Miss DT Robert Nkemdiche, 6-foot-4, 296 pounds
Highest- Lock your windows, all four of our analysts rank Nkemdiche in the teens. Norris (13) and Rang (15) lead the parade.Lowest- PFF (18) and McShay (19) are seeing eye-to-eye on the riddle wrapped in an enigma that is Mr. Nkemdiche.
15. Notre Dame OLB Jaylon Smith, 6-foot-3, 235 pounds
Highest- Norris and McShay find common ground with Smith at No. 14Lowest- PFF waits until No. 21 to offer Smith forward, while Rang waves him in at No. 19.
16. Eastern Kentucky Edge Noah Spence, 6-foot-3, 254 pounds
Highest- Norris turns in the former Buckeye at No. 10, while PFF’s team checks him in at No. 12.Lowest- Rang hits up Spence at No. 16. That’s lower than PFF and Norris, but Todd McShay takes the cake by putting the edge rusher at No. 32.
17. Baylor WR Corey Coleman, 5-10, 190 pounds
Highest- Rotoworld’s Norris thinks the world of Coleman and ranks him as his No. 4 overall prospect. PFF’s team of analysts aren’t far behind at No. 10Lowest- McShay keeps the all-universe Baylor star out of his top-32, while he barely nudges into Rang’s rankings at No. 29.
18. Baylor DT Andrew Billings, 6-foot-1, 300 pounds
Highest- Norris checks Billings in just shy of his top-10 at No. 11.Lowest- The rest of our fair analysts place him 20 or higher, with Rang putting down the former Bear at No. 20, followed by both PFF and McShay at No. 24.
19. Clemson CB Mackenzie Alexander, 5-foot-10, 195 pounds
Highest- Rang and PFF both offer Alexander forward at No. 14.Lowest- McShay unleashes the Tiger at No. 26, while Norris waits until No. 32 to open the door.
20. Alabama DL Jarran Reed 6-foot-3, 313 pounds
Highest- CBS Sports analyst Rang has him scraping the top-10 at No. 12. McShay isn’t far behind, tossing the champ in at No. 16.Lowest- Norris and PFF are decidedly lower here, with Reed at No. 29 on Norris’ Big Board. PFF fells him all the way to No. 36.
21. Alabama DT A’Shawn Robinson 6-foot-3, 312 pounds
Highest- McShay’s ranking of Robinson at No. 12 and Rang’s at 17 aren’t just a little higher than those of PFF and Norris. They’re flying so high above that they can’t even see the other rankings.Lowest- PFF not only keeps Robinson out of their top-32, they don’t have him in their top-40. Neither does Norris for that matter, as you’ll find the former Tide star at No. 42 on his Big Board.
22. Michigan State OT Jack Conklin, 6-foot-6, 318 pounds
Highest- McShay includes Conklin at No. 13. PFF has him slightly lower at No. 17.Lowest- While Rang’s ranking of 26 for Conklin is relatively low, Norris bests (worsts?) that by placing the Spartan warrior down at 52.
23. Ohio State OLB Darron Lee, 6-foot-1, 234 pounds
Highest – Rotoworld’s Norris turns to Lee at No. 19, while McShay and Rang wait a few more slots until No. 25.Lowest- PFF doesn’t include the former Buckeye in their top-40.
24. TCU WR Josh Doctson, 6-foot-4, 190 pounds
Highest- Norris is most bullish on Doctson, placing him at No. 20. PFF follows at No. 25.Lowest- McShay and Rang do not include the former Horned Frog on their boards.
25. Ohio State OT Taylor Decker, 6-foot-7, 317 pounds
Highest- McShay and Rang are within shouting distance here, as the former ranks Decker No. 22 while the latter boosts him a spot at No. 21.Lowest- PFF doesn’t rank the Ohio State lineman in their top-40, while Norris has him ranked 36th.
26. Alabama ILB Reggie Ragland, 6-2, 259 pounds
Highest- McShay’s by far the highest on Ragland of our bunch, ranking him as the No. 10 prospect in this draft pool.Lowest- Norris doesn’t drop Ragland in until No. 40, with Rang (32) and PFF (30) slightly higher on the Tide leader.
27. Kansas State OG Cody Whitehair, 6-foot-4, 309 pounds
Highest- Norris is the first on the scene with Whitehair at No. 21. PFF follows a few slots later at No. 27.Lowest- No such dice for the offensive lineman on either McShay or Rang’s boards. Neither analyst tosses him into the fray for this round.
28. Georgia OLB Leonard Floyd, 6-foot-3, 232 pounds
Highest- Norris and Rang meet at No. 22 with Floyd.Lowest- McShay and PFF, not so hot. McShay ranks the former Bulldog at No. 29, while PFF omits him from their top-40 completely.
29. Louisiana Tech DT Vernon Butler, 6-foot-4, 325 pounds
Highest- Norris is the only one to place Butler within his top-20, lining him up at No. 18.Lowest- McShay places Butler at No. 28, Rang at No. 31. He doesn’t make the cut for PFF.
30. Florida DE Jonathan Bullard, 6-foot-3, 283 pounds
Highest- Rang (27) and PFF (29) buoy Bullard in our consensus.Lowest- The Florida product fails to crack either Todd McShay’s or Josh Norris’ top-32, though Norris has him just outside that at No. 33.
31. UCLA DT Kenny Clark, 6-foot-3, 308 pounds
Highest- Rang and Norris both rank Clark within the top-32, with Rang slotting the Bruin slightly higher 23 to 31.Lowest- PFF has him near the bottom of their top-40 at No. 37. McShay does not include Clark on his 32-man big board.
32. Memphis QB Paxton Lynch, 6-foot-6, 225 pounds
Highest- Norris slots Lynch in just after Goff and Wentz at No. 25. McShay sees the situation likewise and places the gunslinger at No. 27.Lowest- Lynch just makes the cut in PFF’s top-40, falling into line at No. 39. Rang leaves him out of the party altogether.
February 23, 2016 at 8:24 pm #39481znModeratorNo consensus for Rams in pre-combine mock drafts
Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — It is NFL combine week, which means it’s time to turn up the heat on mock draft season.
The NFL draft world is unveiling mock drafts all week in all corners of cyberspace. As you might expect with the Rams drafting No. 15 overall, there are a wide variety of names being connected to the team.
Here’s a glance at what some analysts are saying:
* Right here at ESPN, Mel Kiper Jr.’s second mock draft sent Mississippi wide receiver Laquon Treadwell to Los Angeles.
* At CBSSports.com, Pete Prisco has Ohio State cornerback Eli Apple going to the Rams on the premise of the team losing at least one of its starting corners.
* Also at CBSSports.com, Rob Rang went with Treadwell, while Dane Brugler opted for Alabama linebacker Reggie Ragland.
Ole Miss’ Laquon Treadwell
A couple experts have the Rams selecting Ole Miss wide receiver Laquon Treadwell.
* At NFL.com, Daniel Jeremiah grabbed Memphis quarterback Paxton Lynch for the Rams.Meanwhile, Bucky Brooks has Baylor wide receiver Corey Coleman becoming a Ram.
* At FoxSports.com, Peter Schrager has a different quarterback than we’ve seen going to the Rams, Michigan State’s Connor Cook.
So, there you have it. Even in a relatively small sample of the many mock drafts floating around, there were six different players pegged for the Rams at No. 15. Any of those possibilities could realistically play out (though cornerback and linebacker are the least likely depending on free agency) but it speaks to the nature of picking in the middle of the first round.
Assuming the Rams don’t move up to take a quarterback or someone else, they’ll have a range of players like this available when the time comes.
February 24, 2016 at 11:58 am #39518AgamemnonParticipantBig names are on the move in our pre-NFL Scouting Combine mock draft
Charles Davis previews the NFL Combine
By Peter Schrager @PSchrags
Feb 22, 2016 at 11:00a ETThe NFL Scouting Combine is the best, most-active week of the NFL offseason. General managers, coaches, scouts, agents, media and business affairs types (and hanger-ons) converge on Indianapolis for seven days and evaluate, talk, drink, hang out and debate. There also happens to be a bunch of draft prospects there, looking to get their dreams realized. There’s three legs to the NFL Draft Triple Crown. Senior Bowl, Combine and Pro Day. The Senior Bowl opened the window to some of these young men, and there are countless others on display this week. Going into Indianapolis, here’s my latest 2016 Mock Draft.
You know the deal. This will change. Have an issue with the picks or who I have your team selecting? Hit me at PeterSchrager@gmail.com or on Twitter @Pschrags.
FIRST ROUND
1. Tennessee (3-13): Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss, Jr.
Tennessee’s first-year GM Jon Robinson could end up shopping and trading this pick to a team that wants or needs a quarterback and fears they won’t get one with their current draft position. If Tennessee keeps the pick, I’d see them going with Tunsil, the talented left tackle most often compared to Tyron Smith of the Cowboys. Tunsil was suspended by the NCAA for seven games — a bit of a red flag — but should do fine in the interview process. 2014 first-round pick Taylor Lewan could shift to right tackle and Tunsil could man the left side.
2. Cleveland (3-13): Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State, Sr.
I’ll have a better idea on what the Browns are looking to do with their quarterback situation after this week, but at the moment, believe Wentz is the guy. Free agents like Brock Osweiler and potentially Sam Bradford could be better options for Cleveland than a rookie starter, but Wentz might just fit the mold. The Senior Bowl breakout star is 6-foot-5, 240 pounds, has a big arm, and is no stranger to the frigid conditions of the AFC North. Oh, and he’s surprisingly agile and quick on his feet. Hue Jackson knows his QBs. So does Pep Hamilton. If they fall in love with one of the veteran free agents or Cal’s Jared Goff, I’d trust them. But they may have a hard time denying Wentz.
3. San Diego (4-12): DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon, Sr.
Don’t be shocked. I know this is higher than where everyone else has him, but I’ve spoken to some scouts who say Buckner is the top player in this draft. He is a 6-foot-7, 290-pound pure athlete who tore up the Pac-12 this season. He had 12 tackles for a loss in just a nine-game season. Arik Armstead was a top-20 pick last year. I think Buckner goes top 10. Joey Bosa’s the bigger name, but in draft circles, many believe Buckner’s got the bigger potential.
4. Dallas (4-12): Jared Goff, QB, Cal, Jr.
Cowboys fans got a glimpse of what life without Tony Romo could be like this season, and it wasn’t pretty. There’s a chance a Johnny Manziel, a Robert Griffin III, or a Colt McCoy signs as a backup in March, but don’t be surprised if the Cowboys snag a long-term answer at quarterback, too. Goff is a big kid, a nice prospect, and has all the traits that could make the next great franchise quarterback in Big D. Let him learn under Romo, groom the next guy, and suffer no Quincy Carter/Chad Hutchinson-like drop-off.
5. Jacksonville (5-11): Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida St., Jr.
Ramsey is a guy who can do it all in a defensive backfield, matching up with small, shifty slot receivers or handling the towers like Calvin Johnson or Mike Evans. He’s a track-and-field star, can tackle, and has been one of the leaders on a very successful Florida State team for multiple seasons. Is he a safety or a corner? I’m not sure. But he’s damn good and a great fit for whatever Gus Bradley wants to do on D moving forward.
6. Baltimore (5-11): Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida, Jr.
The Ravens don’t typically have top-6 picks. They’ll be happy to see either Ramsey or Hargreaves III on the board. Hargreaves is a star who held two of the top wideouts in the country — Travin Dural and Laquon Treadwell — under 100 receiving yards this year. He lacks ideal size (5-foot-11), but has the instincts to be a star.
7. San Francisco (5-11): Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio St., Jr.
Bosa is in for a week of dissection in Indianapolis. Who is this guy? Both on and off the field? Is the Ohio State pass rusher the next JJ Watt? Probably not. But he’s got an incredible first step, comes from a football family, and would make an immediate impact for a 49ers defense that’s desperate for a pass rushing talent. He’s still potentially the top pick in the Draft, but I’ve also heard others who insist he’s a question mark.
8. Miami (6-10): Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA, Jr.
Jack is the draft’s biggest wild card. If his rehab from a torn meniscus continues to progress — as I’m told it will — he’ll be a top-10 selection. The Dolphins have Ndamukong Suh on the inside, Cam Wake as a pass rusher, and will likely try to bring back promising Olivier Vernon this March. In a division owned by Tom Brady, you can never have enough top defensive talent up front.
9. Tampa Bay (6-10): Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame, Jr.
Stanley’s the real deal. Behind Tunsil, he’s the left tackle I have my eye on. The Buccaneers like the two linemen they drafted in the second round a year ago — Donovan Smith and Ali Marpet — but can still use another franchise cornerstone to protect their number one asset, Jameis Winston. The Bucs would love to add an elite pass rusher, but Stanley’s the guy to take at 9 if the draft plays out this way.
10. N.Y. Giants (6-10): Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State
There will be nearly a dozen players out of Ohio State drafted in the first 100 picks. Lee is second on my list behind Bosa and could be the best of all of them at the next level. He’s a bit small on first sight and doesn’t look like a traditional NFL linebacker (235 pounds), but Lee flies all over the field and can rush the quarterback. Once upon a time, the Giants had impact guys all over their defense. Those days feel like forever ago. One scout told me he’s a “better Lavonte David.” You’ll take that, Giants fans.
11. Chicago (6-10): Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
Spence is one of the biggest wild cards in the draft. I know some teams already list him as a top 10 guy, while others believe the jury is still out. The Bears need not only pass rushers, but defensive help all over its front seven. Spence was the eye-opening talent of Senior Bowl Week. More important than the skills the former Ohio State player displayed on the field was his demeanor in interviews with teams. Spence has a big week ahead — he has a history with drugs that’s been well chronicled — in which he’ll be answering questions for days. If he can get through those questions — he’s a top-15 pick.
12. New Orleans (7-9): Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville, Sr.
If Spence was the star of Senior Bowl week on the defensive side of the ball, Rankins was a close second. Though he didn’t play in the actual game, Rankins manhandled opponents all week in practice and showed that he has the potential to be the Aaron Donald of this draft class. At 6-2, 305 pounds, Rankins can move. A great fit for what New Orleans is looking to do up front.
13. Philadelphia (7-9): Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson, Jr.
If this were a better cornerback draft, I’d have the Eagles going with one, here. But it’s not, and I don’t see one worthy of being in the top 15 after the first two are taken. The Eagles are good up front, but you can never have enough pass rush. Lawson brings it off the edge and was virtually unstoppable this year. He was all over the field in the college football playoff games.
14. Oakland (7-9): Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame, Jr.
The Raiders have one franchise cornerstone on defense in Khalil Mack. Smith would be a steal at 14, and the ultimate “long-term play.” They may need to exhibit a bit of patience on this one, but the payoff could be worth it in the end. Smith suffered a bad injury in the Fiesta Bowl and his recovery time is still a bit of an unknown at the moment. He could be out for the first several weeks of the 2016 season. If and when healthy, Smith can rush the quarterback, stop the run, drop into coverage and lead a team. He’s a star — healthy in April or not.
15. Los Angeles (7-9): Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State, Sr.
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I’d hold off on the Peyton Manning to the Rams stuff for now. Instead, I’d look at the draft. I know everyone else has Paxton Lynch as their third QB in this year’s class, but I’d advise you to circle this Mock Draft now, put it away somewhere and remember this prediction. I’ve had Connor Cook going in the top 20 since August. He didn’t do anything over the past six months that should impact that.16. Detroit (7-9): Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State, Jr.
Ogbah is an interesting one. He had 11 sacks as a sophomore because of his freakish athleticism. He, then, doubled down and had 13 sacks in 2015, even though he was a focus of opposing offenses’ blocking schemes. New GM Bob Quinn is a scout’s scout. I think Ogbah — relatively clean from top to bottom — is a solid pick here.
17. Atlanta (8-8): Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama, Sr.
The Jaguars coaching staff used Ragland as an outside linebacker at the Senior Bowl, but I don’t think that’s the right fit. The Falcons are desperate for some help up the middle on that Dan Quinn defense. If Bobby Wagner was that guy for Quinn in Seattle, there’s a chance Ragland can be that dude for him in Atlanta. Ferocious player who Nick Saban loved, he’d be a great fit.
18. Indianapolis (8-8): Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio St., Sr.
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Decker moves well despite being 6-foot-7. He’s a first-round pick, can complement Anthony Castonzo on that Indy offensive line and is a rock-solid player. More offensive-line help is needed for Indianapolis. Lots more.
19. Buffalo (8-8): Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State, Jr.
Whether he’s a tackle or guard at the next level will be figured out in due time. The Bills could have some moving parts on that offensive line this off-season, and they’d be wise to draft the best one available. Conklin can play right away. Nasty.
20. N.Y. Jets (10-6): Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio St., Jr.
Elliott has been described as the best blocking running back in the entire draft. He can also run quite a bit. I had a scout tell me he’s a top-five pick, but even with Todd Gurley’s success, I’m not sure I can put a running back much higher than here. Especially with the needs other teams have. The Jets would be a great fit.
21. Washington (9-7): Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State, Jr.
After the top 20, we may see some of the other cornerbacks fly off the board. The Redskins are desperate for some young talent in their defensive backfield. Apple’s tough, fast and has great ball skills. A New Jersey native, the 6-foot-1 cornerback improved in his junior season. Good fit, here.
22. Houston (9-7): A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama, Jr.
Everyone’s going to assume the Texans go with a quarterback (most likely Christian Hackenberg) here, but I can see them beefing up their interior defensive line. Robinson’s an interesting prospect, to be certain. He’s 6-foot-3, 320 pounds and is actually much lighter on his feet than you’d expect. Talented inside and plays angry.
23. Minnesota (11-5): Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss, Jr.
Treadwell’s the most fascinating prospect in this entire draft class. I am downright intrigued to see where he ends up in April. He’s a crisp route runner who does it all on tape. He produces. But he will be underwhelming in the 40-yard dash and the vertical and broad jump this week in Indianapolis. This will be your classic case of production vs. measurables. And for that reason, he may slip all the way to No. 23.
24. Cincinnati (12-4): Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor, Jr.
Both Mohamed Sanu and Marvin Jones are free agents, and even if one or both are back, I could see Cincinnati grabbing another impact wide receiver with this pick. Coleman had 74 receptions for 1,363 yards and 20 touchdowns last season, and will test better than Treadwell. His season was cut short with an injury, but he should be fine come Week 1.
25. Pittsburgh (10-6): Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech, Jr.
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Fuller comes from a long line of Fullers who have succeeded in the NFL. He’s 6-0, 190 pounds and was a stud at Virginia Tech before an injury cut his 2015 season short. Good pedigree. Strong player. A need for Pittsburgh.
26. Seattle (10-6): Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State, Sr.
The Seahawks offensive line got manhandled by the Panthers in the divisional round and Russell Okung’s future is in the air. Look for Seattle to beef up the line, and Whitehair, who could play tackle or center, may be the guy. He played well — not great — at the Senior Bowl. Should be a late-first, early second-round guy.
27. Green Bay (10-6): Jarran Reed, DT Alabama, Sr.
Reed is your big run-stuffing defensive tackle who can play either inside or outside on certain formations. Not a big pass rush guy, but a big plugger on the line. Green Bay’s defense finished the season strong and the unit beefed up in the draft last year. Here’s another potential long-term starter.
28. Kansas City (11-5): Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia, Jr.
Floyd is 6-4, 230 pounds and can move. He led Georgia in sacks three years in a row and showed a variety of polished moves to get to the quarterback last season. He’s more of a finished product than others coming off the edge in this class and can contribute right away. Look for Kansas City to get some more outside pass rush help.
29. Arizona (13-3): Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis, Jr.
I’ve got Lynch falling to 29. Carson Palmer is the quarterback for the immediate future, but why not take a gamble on a long-term successor? Lynch is 6-foot-7 and has all the physical tools, but didn’t particularly play well in his bowl game. Is he the next Carson Palmer? Or the next Dan McGwire? Teams want to find out.
30. Carolina (15-1): Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson, Redshirt Sophomore
Alexander is 5-foot-10, has the swagger and confidence of a top NFL cornerback, and has handled some of college football’s top receivers, including Notre Dame first-round talent Will Fuller. The downside? He didn’t have an interception his entire career at Clemson. Alexander could go as high as top 15 or fall out of the first round. Combine week will be big.
31. Denver (12-4): Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama, Sr.
I like Kelly the most of this year’s batch of centers, though I know some scouts who are bigger on Nick Martin out of Notre Dame. A lot of this pick will depend on what the Broncos do (or don’t do) in free agency.
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/mock-draft-nfl-scouting-combine-022216
There are some videos at the link that you might find interesting. They are a bit too much trouble to link directly here.
Randy K said the Rams would have taken Cook at 10 last year, if he would have come out. That means they would have taken him even over Gurley. So, it might figure that they would take him this year at 15.
February 24, 2016 at 2:36 pm #39529znModeratorNew Orleans Saints’ draft board deeper than in most years
The New Orleans Saints have a draft board with 20 to 30 more players than Jeff Ireland is accustomed to seeing at this time of year, he said in a podcast posted to the team website.
Ireland, the Saints assistant general manager and college scouting director, said the team completed a draft board prior to the NFL Scouting Combine this week “so we don’t make decisions based on players running around in shorts or players that interview well or interview poorly.”
Ireland said “there are some defensive positions that are strong,” and the additional 20 or 30 players on the draft board as a result of this year’s depth being “a little better than maybe in some years.” Ireland also lauded the offensive line talent available in this draft.
February 24, 2016 at 2:58 pm #39531AgamemnonParticipantFebruary 25, 2016 at 8:10 am #39563znModeratorDrew Boylhart
The Huddle Report
2016 TALENT BOARD
February 26, 2016 at 2:49 am #39599AgamemnonParticipantSCOUT’S NOTEBOOK
Posted: February 24, 2016 | 0 commentsWith the scouting combine now nicely underway in Indianapolis, here are some passing thoughts on what we have been picking up in terms of some of the players who are hot in this year’s draft class and some who are not ….
It does not appear at this time as if there is a true consensus #1 top prospect or the 2016s draft. What does seem clear is that there is a consensus top three for this year’s draft in Ohio State DE Joey bosa, Ole Miss OT Laremy Tunsil, and Florida State DB Jalen Ramsey. The irony is that of the three, Bosa just may be the most likely to slip down a few spots. Nobody doubts Bosa productivity and relentless effort level, but there are growing whispers that he has the true explosiveness to be more than a 8-10 sack a year guy. Stay tuned!
That top 3 could easily become a top 4 if UCLA OLB Myles Jack passes the NFL’s medical tests between now and the draft. Jack, who many scouts considered to be pound-for pound the best prospect in this year’s draft class, hasn’t played since September when he tore an MCL. Jack won’t run or workout at the combine this week, but reportedly will be cleared to participate fully in the Bruins’ pro day on March 15th.
If there is a breakthrough into the top 5 picks on April 28th (other than the QBs) it may come from Oregon DE/DT DeForest Buckner, a tweener DE/DT who has always had the strength and length to control the point of attack, but started to emerge as a legitimate pass rush threat this past year when he had 10.5 sacks.
Meanwhile, Florida CB Vernon Hargreaves could also be lurking right behind the top 4-5 guys. Hargreaves, who teams view as potentially the best pure cover corner in this year’s draft (FSU’s Ramsey may be better suited to play safety even though he did play corner this past season) appears to be moving up boards around the league and could be one of the more scrutinized prospects at this week’s combine.
Probably not breaking any news here with the observation that both Notre Dame OLB Jaylon Smith and Eastern Kentucky DE Noah Spence have top 5 physical potential, but also have red flags. Smith, who many scouts considered to be the best player overall in this year’s draft class, is rehabbing from a torn ACL suffered in the Irish’ Fiesta Bowl loss to Ohio State and likely won’t be ready to go 100% until early in the upcoming season at best. Meanwhile, Spence the one-time Ohio State edge-rushing phenom is arguably the most dynamic pass rusher in this year’s draft class. However, he was booted from the OSU program – and banned from the Big 10 period – for multiple failed drug tests; it also doesn’t help that Spence, who is more tweener DE/OLB sized with very short arms, doesn’t fit the prototype NFL DE these days. Both guys, though can point to the fact that is year’s NFL rookies-of-the-year – St. Louis RB Todd Gurley (also a torn ACL) on offense and Kansas City CB Marcus Peters (character concerns after getting kicked of his college team for fighting with the coaches) on defense – had enough red flags to start their own Mayday parades, but obviously have gotten off the great starts in their pro careers.
There also doesn’t appear to be a consensus on a top QB prospect for this year’s draft, but it does not appear as if there are a whole lot of teams out there that don’t view California junior Jared Goff and North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz as legit top 10 types. There is also a growing whisper out there that Memphis junior Paxton Lynch may not be all that far behind the top QBs such that nobody will be surprised if he is selected within the first 10-15 picks. And given the drop off to the next level of QBs, nobody should be surprised if more than one QB-needy team picking in the latter half of the opening round makes a few calls to try and move up to get Lynch. stay tuned!
One of the emerging stories of the 2016 draft is the strength at DT; indeed, as many as 10 defensive tackles could be taken among the first 40 or so picks this coming April. And the hottest guy in the DT appears to be Sheldon Rankins of Louisville, who isn’t the biggest guy out there at the position, but has people thinking of him as maybe a poor man’s Aaron Donald because of his explosive athleticism and relentless motor. Meanwhile, Ohio State OLB Darron Lee also appears to be making a move up, at least into the top 20, while CB Eli Apple, his forner OSU teammate also appears to be growing on NFL personnel types. Meanwhile, its possible that both of DEs Shaq Lawson of Clemson and Okalhoma State’s Emmanual Ogbah are slipping in the other direction. Indeed, there’s a bit of a buzz out there that no one should be too shocked if Lawson’s bookend linemate Kevin Dodd is actually the first of the pair to be selected,despite not being quite the same overall athlete. Meanwhile, Ogbah has dropped because of concerns about his overall lack of speed and explosion such that he is beginning to look more like a possible early to mid-second round choice rather than an early to mid-first.Bottom line is that while the 2016 draft is shaping up to be very good at DT, it could be a downer in terms of pure pass-rushing DEs.February 27, 2016 at 2:46 am #39665AgamemnonParticipantFebruary 28, 2016 at 4:50 pm #39756znModerator2016 NFL Draft Outlook
Bob McGinn
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/2016-nfl-draft-outlook-b99676279z1-370399721.html
Here’s an early look at 50 players who figure to fit into these layers of the draft (underclassmen are denoted by asterisk).
Based on interviews with executives in personnel for five teams, it is possible to narrow down just a little bit the pool of players that might be considered by the Green Bay Packers regardless of position if they exercise their current 27th selection in the first round of the NFL draft April 28.
Prospects are conservatively divided into three categories: As Good As Gone – barring negative developments, these players have virtually no chance of reaching No. 27; Probably Gone — players who appear to have no better than a 50-50 chance of remaining on the board at No. 27; and The Next Level — players who figure to fall next.
The Packers have their own selection in all seven rounds. They’re also likely to be awarded at least one compensatory pick next month for the free-agent losses of cornerbacks Tramon Williams and Davon House in 2015.
AS GOOD AS GONE (11)
Laremy Tunsil*, T, Mississippi: 6-5, 310. Started 28 games at left tackle. “Outstanding athlete,” one scout said. “Long arms. Moves well. He played against some of the best pass rushers in college football and shut them down. Tough.” Doesn’t work to finish blocks on a consistent basis. “He might be a little lighter on his feet than (Ronnie) Stanley,” a second scout said. Top-five pick.
Ronnie Stanley*, T, Notre Dame: 6-6, 312. Junior left tackle. “Good player, but I don’t think he’s special,” said one scout. “He’s in the top seven, eight (picks). He’s a better player than the Giants took at No. 9 last year (tackle Ereck Flowers).” Not a great worker and doesn’t always play hard. Three-year starter (39 games) at LT. “He needs to get stronger,” another scout said. “He probably has the best pass set. He’s really good technically as a pass blocker. Left tackle.” Extremely long arms (35 5/8 inches).
Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State: 6-5, 237. Played behind Waupaca’s Brock Jensen until 2014. A wrist injury in ’15 limited him to just 23 career starts. “He’s a big guy with a big arm,” said one scout. “The ball gets there. He’s not a scrambler per se but he has speed. He might be the most physically talented of the group. Would I be nervous with this guy? Absolutely. But if you have no quarterback at all, what do you got to lose?” Finished with an NFL passer rating of 105.2. Scored 29 on the 50-question Wonderlic intelligence test. “He’s got an arm,” another scout said. “But it’s such a long way from that level of play to the NFL at any position, let alone quarterback.”
Jared Goff*, QB, California: 6-4, 215. Third-year junior with 37 starts. “He might be the most ready,” one scout said. “Thing I don’t like is his slender build. He did not have a lot of talent around him. Does he have a great arm? No, but it’s good enough. I’d be nervous taking him above 10.” Posted an NFL passer rating of 98.9. “In terms of arm talent, he’ll be like (Jay) Cutler,” another scout said. “Skinny kid. Gets hit a bunch. He doesn’t see everything. Accuracy is off at times, but he is talented. He can really spin it. Really good feet.”
Paxton Lynch*, QB, Memphis: 6-7, 244. Fourth-year junior. “There’s stuff he doesn’t see but, boy, is he a great athlete for a big guy,” one scout said. “He’s got good feet and can make all the throws.” His NFL passer rating of 93.5 included 110.6 in 2015. “Big production in a lot of games, so-so in some others,” another scout said. “Pretty good athlete for a big kid. Excellent size. He’s got a big ceiling. It’s a weird group of quarterbacks. None of them are just ready-made and none of them show consistency. They’re good, solid starters. None of them are Pro Bowl-caliber type quarterbacks. I would take (Jameis) Winston and (Marcus) Mariota over these guys. No question.”
Joey Bosa*, DE, Ohio State: 6-5, 269. Third-year junior with 26 sacks and 50½ tackles for loss in 37 starts. “He’s a top-three, top-four player,” said one scout. “He could be the first pick in the draft. Very strong. Can play the run and he rushes the passer well. Plays with good intensity.” Father, John, was a bust (seven sacks in three seasons) as a DE drafted with the 16th pick by Miami in 1987. “He’s a little better version of Justin Smith when he came out of Missouri (in 2001),” said another scout. “Little better athlete. Strong, tough guy like that. Good motor.”
A’Shawn Robinson*, DT, Alabama: 6-4, 307. Third-year junior. “He doesn’t play with the same consistency that (Jarran) Reed does,” said one scout. “He’s not stiff. He can play 3-technique or 5-technique. I don’t like him as a nose because he plays tall.” Started 30 of 42 games, finishing with 9 sacks and 22 tackles for loss. Won’t turn 21 until next month. “Big run stuffer with pass-rush ability,” one scout said.
DeForest Buckner, DE, Oregon: 6-7, 291. Started 38 of 54 games. “Comes in and starts,” one scout said. “Not as dynamic obviously as Bosa. More of a run-down player for a 3-4 team, but he has some pass rush to him.” Finished with 18 sacks and 36 tackles for loss. Wonderlic score of 9. Widely regarded as a better prospect than former Duck DE Arik Armstead, who went 17th last year to the 49ers. “They play a two-gap 3-4 there,” said another scout. “He’s got a chance to be an impact guy. He kind of plays all across the front.” Hands measured an incredible 11¾ inches.
Myles Jack*, ILB, UCLA: 6-1, 245. Third-year junior. “He’s the best player in the draft,” one scout said. “He’s a slam dunk. He can play modern-day football. He ain’t never leaving the field.” Suffered torn lateral meniscus in practice after the third game last season and immediately left team. Cleared for workouts Jan. 22. Also played extensively as a RB in 2013-’14. “He’s a ‘will’ but he’s kind of a freak,” said another scout. “You see him walk out to the slot and cover receivers. He can also play in the box. I’m betting he’d go in the first three rounds as a running back. He’s a much better player than Shaq Thompson a year ago. Will run in the 4.5s. He can play inside in a 3-4 but that’d be kind of a waste for him.”
Jalen Ramsey*, CB-S, Florida State: 6-1, 209. Third-year junior split time between CB and safety. “He could be the first pick,” said one scout. “He’s going to blow this combine out. He’ll run in the 4.3s. Super competitive. Very smart. Very long. Very physical.” Just three interceptions in 41 starts. “I don’t know if the movement’s quite there for corner but he can really run and he’s athletic and he’s smooth,” said another scout. “I think he’s probably better covering tight ends and backs than walking out.”
Vernon Hargreaves*, CB, Florida: 5-10, 204. Third-year junior. “I do think he’s the best corner,” said one scout. “He’s a smoother cover guy than Ramsey.” Started 37 games and had 10 interceptions. “Very smart, very instinctive,” said one scout. “Joe Haden-type player. Gets his hands on a lot of balls. Very physical in the run game. Competitor. Only thing he lacks is Jalen’s size.”
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Laquon Treadwell*, WR, Mississippi: 6-2, 221. Bounced back from a gruesome leg injury in November 2014 with 82-catch, 1,153-yard final season. “Most likely he is the first wide receiver taken, but that’s not a slam dunk,” one scout said. “He’s a physical, stronger guy. DeVante Parker last year was a very similar player. Good route runner.” From Crete, Ill. “He’s big, has made some great catches and can run with the ball,” another scout said.
Ezekiel Elliott*, RB, Ohio State: 6-0, 225. Two-year starter with 592 carries for 3,961 yards (6.7) and 43 TDs. “He’s a complete three-down back,” one scout said. “He’s really good.” Stunned some scouts by telling reporters after loss to Michigan State that he didn’t get the ball enough and was done as a Buckeye. “Declaring for the draft and making those statements right after a loss were very disappointing,” another scout said. “Is he a selfish player? Is it all about him? He’s going to have to answer a lot of questions.” Ran a 4.47 40.
Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama: 6-3, 307. Played two seasons of junior college before starting two seasons for Crimson Tide. “I didn’t realize how well he ran until he chased down (Carson) Wentz in the Senior Bowl,” one scout said. “I’d take him (mid-first round) and not look back. You don’t see his pass rush but I think he can. I think he can play nose, too.” Finished with 6½ sacks and 21½ tackles for loss. “He doesn’t thrill me,” another scout said. “He’s a nose tackle. Maybe somebody will get fired up on him. Not a pass-rush guy.”
Robert Nkemdiche*, DT, Mississippi: 6-3, 294. Kicked off team 10 days before Rebels’ bowl game after having his 15-foot fall from a hotel wall interrupted by a bush. “I was drunk,” he said Friday. “It was a blunder. I have changed. I have cleaned up a little bit.” Third-year junior started 34 games. “He’s really a different kid,” said one scout. “He may scare some people. He’s strange strange.” Finished with seven sacks. “He’s got as much ability as anybody, if not more,” another scout said. “Three-technique is his best position. He’s a little bit up and down, but his good plays are very, very good. But there’s some things that have to be answered and worked through.” Added a third scout: “His character will keep him off the board for us. He’s talented enough to be in the top 10. But holy (expletive), buyer beware on this one.”
Kevin Dodd*, DE, Clemson: 6-5, 277. Fourth-year junior. “He’s a little better than (teammate) Shaq Lawson,” one scout said. “Really came on. His best games were probably the last six in his career, which always helps. Quality kid, all that stuff. He’s a 4-3 DE pass rusher or an outside backer in a 3-4.” Had 12 sacks in 39 games (15 starts).
Shaq Lawson*, DE, Clemson: 6-3, 269. Third-year junior. “Top 25,” said one scout. “Pass rusher. Long arms. Really came on this year. Played behind (Vic) Beasley in the past. Totally different than Beasley. Beasley was a speed rusher. This guy’s got speed and athleticism. He’s just a bigger guy.” Posted 20 sacks in 43 games (16 starts).
Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville: 6-1 1/2, 299. Undersized 3-technique with 29 starts in four seasons. “He’s a move guy,” one scout said. “If you put him at nose and don’t move him you’re going to be wasting him. He can run. He’ll play at 315, 320.” Models his game after Aaron Donald, J.J. Watt and Geno Atkins. “I can play in any scheme and all three downs,” he said.
Emmanuel Ogbah*, DE, Oklahoma State: 6-4, 273. Fourth-year junior. “Whoever takes him will get an excellent player,” one scout said. “He can play any position except nose. He does what they tell him to do. He plays the defense.” Consistent production (28 sacks, 36 starts) over three seasons. “Good effort player,” another scout said. “Very explosive. Late first, early second.” Arms were 35 1/2.
Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama: 6-1, 247. Started two of four years. “Ragland is a great kid, great leader, great person, great worker,” said one scout with intimate knowledge of the Crimson Tide program. “His speed is good enough.” Dropped 12 pounds in the last month, presumably in hopes of running a competitive 40 Sunday. Several scouts said he wasn’t as good as D.J. Mosley, the Alabama ILB who went in the first round to Baltimore in 2014. Scored 10 in first attempt at the Wonderlic. “Alabama runs probably the toughest defense in college football to understand, and he ran the show,” another scout said. “He had to bide his time to run the show. He did it only his senior year. He’s a pretty serious football player. Very tough, very athletic, could cover really well. Mosley is a little more versatile than Ragland but Ragland can take the pounding a little bit more.”
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Corey Coleman*, WR, Baylor: 5-11, 194. Caught 173 passes for 3,009 yards (17.4) and 33 TDs. “Really dynamic player,” one scout said. “Got a ton of catches and big plays. It’ll take a little bit of time when he comes in the league just like all the Baylor receivers because they don’t run a route tree. There’s a development to his game that he needs.” Compared by another scout to Anquan Boldin.
Josh Doctson, WR, Texas Christian: 6-2, 202. Caught 35 passes as a true freshman at Wyoming before transferring. “He’s got great hands,” one scout said. “He may have the best hands of the bunch.” Late-season wrist injury that required surgery concerns some teams. “He’s very similar to (Laquon) Treadwell,” another scout said.
Tyler Boyd*, WR, Pittsburgh: 6-1, 197. Established school records with 254 receptions and 3,361 yards (13.2) in three seasons. “Very smooth,” said one scout. “Good hands. Good route runner. He has a chance to be in the latter part of the first (round).” Ran a disappointing 4.58.
Hunter Henry*, TE, Arkansas: 6-5, 250. Moved to the head of the tight end group after Alabama’s O.J. Howard returned for his senior season. “It’d be a reach to take a tight end in the first round,” one scout said. “He’s not a dynamic, special athlete, difference-maker like some of the tight ends that have come out recently. Like Eric Ebron or Jordan Reed or Tyler Eifert or Zach Ertz or Travis Kelce. All those guys had more athletic-receiver traits than this guy.” Much faster than Green Bay’s Richard Rodgers and has comparable hands, according to another scout. “He’s a complete tight end,” said one scout. “More of a pass catcher but he’s got enough size to block.” Started 30 of 38 games, finishing with 116 receptions for 1,661 (14.3) and nine TDs.
Jack Conklin*, T, Michigan State: 6-6, 308. Walk-on from Plainwell, Mich., who earned scholarship shortly after his redshirt season. “He’s a mass blocker, not an explosive blocker,” one scout said. “I think he’s a guard or a right tackle.” Started 35 games at LT and three at RT. “He’s a typical Big Ten offensive lineman,” another scout said. “Big, tough, nasty. Late first round.” Added a third scout: “Finisher. Doesn’t have elite left tackle feet but his feet are good enough. Very consistent.” He compared Conklin to Green Bay RT Bryan Bulaga. 40 time of 5.00.
Taylor Decker, T, Ohio State: 6-7, 310. Started all 42 games from 2013-’15 at LT. “He’ll end up being a right tackle,” one scout said. “OK athlete. Tough kid, smart, good length. He just ends up being so high he gets pushed. He’s better than the (Jack) Mewhort kid was.” Co-captain in 2015. “I’m not as excited about him,” a second scout said. “He does have some toughness and is pretty sound in his technique, but he’s limited athletically.” Just 20 reps on the bench press.
Ryan Kelly, C, Alabama: 6-4, 311. Three-year starter. “Great kid,” said one scout. “Leader. Has great initial quickness. Savvy. He’s not overly powerful. Turned down the Senior Bowl. Plays with leverage. Athletic enough in the screen game. Really good at the second level.” Took over in 2013 for long-time starter Barrett Jones. “He’s significantly better than Barrett Jones,” said another scout. “Not even in the same category. Jones didn’t have nearly the ability that Kelly has. He’s the best center in the draft.”
Jason Spriggs, T, Indiana: 6-6, 301. Started 47 games at LT. “He may go late one or top of two,” said one scout. “Athletic kid. Had a good Senior Bowl. He’s got size, he’s got length and does have left tackle type feet. He’ll continue to rise.” Excelled in three other sports as a high school athlete. “Strictly a left tackle,” another scout said. “He is athletic. Maybe he sits a year and works his way into the lineup. Offensive linemen go (early) because there’s such a need, but I don’t see him being any more than a solid starter.” Turned in a sensational workout. His 40 time of 4.94 was the best among offensive linemen, and he did 31 reps on the bench.
Shon Coleman*, T, Auburn: 6-5, 307. Was diagnosed with leukemia in spring 2010, underwent treatment and finally was cleared for limited practice two years later. “He’s actually a very humble kid,” one scout said. “That (leukemia) is a big deal now. He had 30 months of treatment. That kind of slowed him down, but he’s a worker.” Backed up Greg Robinson in 2013 before making 25 starts at LT. “Very talented,” another scout said. “That offense is hard to evaluate because they don’t do a lot of traditional, basic pass protection.”
Nick Martin, C-G, Notre Dame: 6-4, 299. Older brother Zack was a four-year starter at LT for the Irish before being drafted in the first round by Dallas in 2014 as a RG. “He’s close to his brother only because of blood,” one scout said. “He’s just not as good a player. Not as athletic. He’ll play in the league, yes.” Most of his 37 starts were at center but also projects to guard. “Tough, try-hard kid,” another scout said. “He’s got the intangibles like his brother but not the athlete.”
Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State: 6-4, 301. Four-year starter. “He was a college left tackle but will be a guard,” one scout said. “Probably the best guard in the draft. Very steady. Always in great position. Great feet. Knows how to play.” Handicapped to an extent by short arms (32 inches). “He’s stiff,” said another scout. “I’m not as enthused with him as other people. Real smart guy.” Hurt himself with merely 16 reps on the bench.
Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State: 6-4, 217. Three-year starter with a 34-5 record. “He’s got a great winning percentage, an average arm and a quick release,” one scout said. “I don’t know if his teammates really love him.” Wasn’t elected as a team captain. “He can make all the throws and he’s got some strength to him and he can run,” another scout said. “It’s all the other stuff. How much he really likes ball and how much he’s going to work at it. He likes being a celebrity.” NFL passer rating was 95.1. “Cook speaks well and looks good when he speaks, but he’s not the sharpest guy,” a third scout said. “He’s not a high football IQ guy.”
Christian Hackenberg*, QB, Penn State: 6-4, 223. Third-year junior. “He’s got an incredible amount of talent,” one scout said. “There are times he makes incredible throws and times he makes stupid throws. Does the pressure rattle him? That’s the key. The changeover in coaches has probably brought him down.” Flourished as a freshman (NFL passer rating of 89.0) before coach Bill O’Brien departed for the Texans. His rating in 2014-’15 dipped to 75.6. “After his freshman year people looked at him as the first pick in the draft,” another scout said. “He could be as talented as any of these quarterbacks. He’s got the arm, the body and is actually a competitor. But the coaches there at Penn State didn’t play to his strengths. A premier type talent like that is so hard to find these days. I could see him going latter part of the first round.”
Derrick Henry*, RB, Alabama: 6-3, 247. Heisman Trophy winner started just 17 of 41 games. “He’s very similar to (Eddie) Lacy,” one scout said. “He’s the workhorse.” Rushed for 2,219 yards last season, bringing his three-year totals to 602 carries for 3,591 (6.0) and 42 TDs. “Great kid,” another scout said. “Great production. Strong runner. Had a lot of wear and tear. Upright style of running.” 40 time of 4.54.
Noah Spence*, DE, Eastern Kentucky: 6-2, 251. Ended up at Eastern Kentucky after being suspended indefinitely at Ohio State for failed drug tests. “Multiple trust things got him kicked out,” said one scout. “Some question marks about his character. Pass rushers are a premium, and he is that.” Had a strong week at the Senior Bowl. “He could go anywhere from 15 to 35,” a second scout said. “It’s all on the off-field stuff. All it takes is one team to be OK with it. Especially with guys like Randy Gregory…you get nervous.” Played well as an outside linebacker at OSU. Had 11 1/2 sacks in only season at EKU.
Andrew Billings*, NT, Baylor: 6-0½, 311. Third-year junior with 30 starts. “They bill him as the strongest college football player,” one scout said. “He’s a limited athlete, but he’s got incredible strength.” Had 5 1/2 sacks in 2015. Likens his style of play to Vince Wilfork. “He’s the true nose,” another scout said. “They rant and rave about how strong he is, but he just doesn’t play that way all the time. I see him second or third round.”
Vernon Butler, DT, Louisiana Tech: 6-4, 323. Two-year starter with extremely long arms (35 1/8) and large hands (10 3/4). “Big 5-technique,” one scout said. “He can do a lot of things. I’d be a little skittish of him there (late first round).” Just five sacks in 48 games (28 starts). “Everybody here loves him,” another scout said. “More second round. Nose tackle and 3-technique.”
Jonathan Bullard, DE, Florida: 6-3, 285. Started 36 of 50 games. “He had his best year (in 2015),” one scout said. “Thought about coming out last year. Helped himself. He’s been dinged up. More of a 4-3 DE than an outside linebacker. He’ll go second or third round just because of limitations on flexibility.” Posted 12 sacks and 33 1/2 tackles for loss.
Kenny Clark*, DT, UCLA: 6-3, 314. Third-year junior. “Very similar to Billings,” one scout said. “Good football player. Second round. He has always played nose.” A scout for a 3-4 team said Clark fits better as a 3-technique. “He has some pass rush in him,” the scout said. “Wish he was more consistent.” Two-year starter with seven sacks.
Austin Johnson*, DT, Penn State: 6-4, 314. Fourth-year junior. “Fits multiple schemes,” said one scout. “Late first, early second. Like him. Plays more 3-technique but he can play nose.” Registered 8 1/2 sacks in 38 games (28 starts). Short arms (32 3/4). “For me it’s all about running to the ball,” Johnson said. “I like 3-technique but I can play whatever.”
Adolphus Washington, DT, Ohio State: 6-3, 298. Prevented from playing in the bowl game by coach Urban Meyer after his arrest for soliciting a prostitute. “I think about it on a daily basis,” he said. “I had never been in trouble or failed a drug test. It was just an impulsive decision.” Finished with 13 1/2 sacks in 49 games (31 starts). “Losing the last game because of that…God, what an idiot,” said one scout. “He’s a late second-rounder now.” Wonderlic of 16. “I like him but he gets knocked around, he really does,” another scout said. “He plays light. He’s got a good first step. He’s a 3-technique all the way.”
Chris Jones*, DT, Mississippi State: 6-6, 310. Third-year junior. “Interesting guy. Real interesting,” one scout said. “Big long guy. Can run. I don’t know if he knows he don’t know (anything) yet. Five-technique. He can rush. Second round.” Started just three games in first two seasons before starting 13 at DT in ’15. “He could easily be in the top 50 but he is such a dog,” said another scout. “He’s an underachiever. Very good ability.” Said Jones: “I’m a flamboyant personality. I’m a cheerful guy. Sky’s the limit.”
Leonard Floyd*, OLB, Georgia: 6-6, 244. Fourth-year junior. “He has a DeMarcus Ware kind of body,” one scout said. “Could play D-end, could play outside backer. Has first-round traits and some third-round, fourth-round inconsistency.” Started 32 of 38 games, finishing with 17 sacks. “His lack of bulk and strength is going to be a concern for some teams,” another scout said. “He’s got good pass-rush skills and instincts. People will be concerned about him because of Barkevious Mingo and Dion Jordan in recent years.”
Jaylon Smith*, ILB, Notre Dame: 6-2, 240. Seven weeks removed from suffering knee damage (torn ACL, torn lateral collateral ligament, some nerve damage) and might not be ready to play at all in 2016. “If he didn’t have the blown knee I think he’s in the top 10,” one scout said. “Maybe he falls because of that and is there for Green Bay (at No. 27). If so, they lucked into a great player.” Third-year junior with 39 starts in 39 games. “I view myself as the best player in the draft,” he said. “I’m going to be a very impactful player for a long time.” Projects inside in a 3-4 and on the weak side in a 4-3. “Athletic, really good pass rusher and he’s also got cover skills,” another scout said. “He’s better than Manti Te’o.”
Darron Lee*, OLB, Ohio State: 6-1, 232. Redshirt sophomore started all 28 games in 2014-’15. “Run, see, hit type guy,” one scout said. “Little bit like Myles Jack. Very athletic. Little undersized. 4-3 ‘will’ or 3-4 inside backer. Immediate nickel backer.” Had 12 sacks, 27½ tackles for loss and three interceptions. “More of a finesse guy than anything,” another scout said. “Has to be covered up. He goes out and plays on the slot a lot. First-round talent.”
Su’a Cravens*, OLB-S, Southern California: 6-1, 226. Projects himself as another Deone Bucannon, the Cardinals’ strong safety who shifted to ILB in ’15. “I think that’s what this kid is,” said one scout. “Probably a nickel backer. For a 4-3 team he’s probably not much different than Shaq Thompson that went in the first round (No. 25) last year. I don’t see him being a first. I just don’t see the production.” His 14 turnover plays included nine picks. “He’s not (Troy) Polamalu but he’s a good player,” another scout said. “Everybody wants to make a linebacker out of him. I think he can play safety.”
Eli Apple*, CB, Ohio State: 6-1, 199. Redshirt sophomore renounced final two seasons of eligibility. “He’s raw,” one scout said. “He’s a man-cover corner. He’d benefit from not having to start right off the bat. Not getting beat early. The physical stuff is there. He gets by with size and speed but not really good fundamentals. That’s great on the college level where they allow you to grab downfield.” Had four picks, 18 passes defensed.
Kendall Fuller*, CB, Virginia Tech: 5-11, 187. Third-year junior. Suffered torn meniscus three games into last season, underwent a microfracture procedure and never returned. “If he wasn’t hurt he’d be a first-rounder,” one scout said. “He’ll probably end up being top of the second based on size and ability. His sophomore film really was very good.” Older brothers Vincent (CB-S), Corey (WR) and Kyle (CB) all either played or are playing in the NFL. “He’s faster than his brother in Chicago (Kyle),” said another scout. “He’s not as good a football player or as strong.”
Xavien Howard*, CB, Baylor: 6-0, 201. Fourth-year junior. “He probably has a chance to be a late first because of the height-weight-speed factor,” one scout said. “Top 50 for sure. Man-cover corner. Decent ball skills. He is tough to throw on. Not a lot of balls completed on him. He can run with almost all receivers. He tracks the ball well. Physical.” Picked off 10 passes in 39 games.
Artie Burns*, CB, Miami: 6-0, 193. Third-year junior. “He’s going to run very well (Monday),” one scout said. “Then he’ll climb.” Started 23 of 36 games, finishing with seven interceptions. “Howard is a much better player but he could slide into the top 50 because of the nature of the position, the size and the speed,” said another scout. “I don’t love him. He’s not very instinctive. More of a height-weight-speed type player that shows flashes.”
March 1, 2016 at 11:54 pm #39865znModeratorKirwan Mock
Pat Kirwan
https://realfootballnetwork.com/2016/03/01/kirwan-mock/
This week’s mock draft is a reaction to all the things I learned at the Combine. Medical information and character issues did affect my decisions, as well as veterans getting franchise tagged, and GMs telling me where things stood with negotiations among their own unrestricted free agents. Unfortunately for Notre Dame’s Jaylon Smith, he is out of the first round due to the concerns that came out of his medical checks in Indianapolis.
1.TENNESSEE-Laremy Tunsil, LT, Mississippi
Tunsil looked smooth and almost effortless in his left tackle drills. A negative to his pursuit of the top pick is that he was named by his college teammate Robert Nkemdiche as being present when the latter fell out of the window of a hotel.2. CLEVELAND-Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
He has big hands, can spin the ball, and looked solid in the bad weather at the Senior Bowl. He looks to have the best tools to handle the climate in Cleveland, and he doesn’t have to play right away with Josh McCown on the roster.3. SAN DIEGO-Jalen Ramsey, CB/S, Florida State
The Chargers have to replace Eric Weddle and others in the secondary. Ramsey is worthy of the pick.4. DALLAS-Jared Goff, QB, California
Tony Romo has had three surgeries on his collarbone and it is time to invest in the future. Goff had a good Combine and is worthy of this spot in the first round. Many Dallas fans want a ‘now’ player like Joey Bosa, but remember, the team went 1-11 without Romo.5.JACKSONVILLE-Joey Bosa, DE/OLB, Ohio State
Not many believed Bosa would fall this far in the first round, but upward pressure by quarterbacks will affect several spots in this first round.6. BALTIMORE-DeForest Buckner, DL, Oregon
I spent time with Buckner at the Combine, and he is a smart football player, with rare size and a very good work ethic.7. SAN FRANCISCO-Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
The guy is 6-7 with a cannon arm and very good feet. He told me he was a running back as a kid and he has the escape skills to help him through the early stages of his career. Colin Kaepernick wants out, and it seems like the right time to say goodbye.8. MIAMI-Noah Spence, DE, Eastern Kentucky
He is the best pass rusher in the draft, and after spending three days at the Combine, it felt like the risk of his off-the-field issues is worth the reward.9. TAMPA BAY-Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State
24 sacks in the last two seasons is just what the doctor ordered for this defense.10. NY GIANTS-Myles Jack, OLB, UCLA
Jack can do it all, and he told me in Indianapolis that he is ready to run and do all the drills, and is waiting for the doctors to clear him.11. CHICAGO-Laquon Treadwell, WR, Mississippi
The Bears offense hasn’t been the same since Brandon Marshall was traded. Treadwell can team up with Alshon Jeffery to rebuild the passing game.12. NEW ORLEANS-A’Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
The Saints defense needs a lot of help in a lot of areas, but there is no substitute for a very big man inside, destroying the run game and collapsing the pocket.13. PHILADELPHIA-Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
The Eagles need to re-sign Sam Bradford or move down for a QB like Michigan State’s Connor Cook. It might be better to just stay where they are and help the defense.14. OAKLAND-Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida
The Raiders would have loved to have taken Jaylon Smith here, but the Combine medical that revealed possible nerve damage was bad news that could keep him out of action for all of 2016 according to some doctors. Hargreaves will help repair a secondary that lost Charles Woodson to retirement.15. LOS ANGELES-Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
There are a number of NFL people who believe Mackensie Alexander is the choice here if Janoris Jenkins is lost in free agency. I think when the dust settles, Apple will nudge past Alexander.16. DETROIT-Sheldon Rankins, DT, Louisville
It’s no secret the Lions need help on the defensive line. Rankins has more plays behind the line of scrimmage (sacks/tackles for a loss) in the last two years than any defensive tackle in the draft.17. ATLANTA-Jarran Reed, DL, Alabama
The Falcons may have to move up to get a premier pass rusher, and DT Robert Nkemdiche has some off-the-field issues that could hurt his chances with the Falcons. Reed is a solid, safe pick.18. INDIANAPOLIS-Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
The Colts have to do a better job protecting Andrew Luck and they would be lucky to see Stanley fall to them at this spot. He may play on the right side for now with Anthony Castonzo at left tackle.19. BUFFALO-Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Mississippi
A very solid defensive lineman with off-the-field issues. Mario Williams looks like he will play elsewhere next year and Kyle Williams is coming off injury.20. NY JETS-Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State
Chris Ivory and Bilal Powell are both free agents and Elliott is a three-down back who can run, catch and pick up the blitz in protection.21. WASHINGTON-Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
Who’s the best corner in the draft? Just ask Alexander. He’ll tell you he is – today, tomorrow, and the day after. If the Redskins can’t secure Kirk Cousins, then this could be a landing spot for Connor Cook.22. HOUSTON-Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
Cook comes from a pro-style offense and is NFL ready, which is what the Texans need at this point.23. MINNESOTA-Darron Lee, OLB, Ohio State
Lee is an outstanding run and hit guy with skills to play man to man coverages. He could be the immediate replacement for Chad Greenway.24. CINCINNATI-Leonard Floyd, OLB/DE, Georgia
The best pass rusher still on the board. He made 48 plays behind the line of scrimmage over the past two seasons. He also has some experience playing inside linebacker.25. PITTSBURGH-Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
The Steelers need help in the secondary. This guy has some medical issues, but he is the physical type of player who fits the Pittsburgh mold.26. SEATTLE-Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
The Seahawks need offensive line help and it may be time to tap into it in the first round, rather than hope that offensive line coach Tom Cable can develop another late-round pick. It may be hard for the Seahawks to resist Derrick Henry here.27. GREEN BAY-Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama
The tackling machine and leader of the ‘Bama defense can be a 100-tackle player as a rookie, and his presence allows Clay Matthews to move back outside.28. KANSAS CITY-Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State
The Chiefs could be hit hard in free agency, which could change their needs drastically. If they are sticking to their board, then a guy like Decker would be one of the highest-graded players left on the board. Corey Coleman, the WR out of Baylor, could be a consideration here.29. ARIZONA-Hunter Henry, TE, Arkansas
The Cardinals could go defense here, but Henry is the best tight end in the class, and this offense would be downright scary with him on the field.30. CAROLINA-Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
He had 12 sacks last year, which is a strong statement from a guy who is still raw and developing.31. DENVER-Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana
Spriggs put on a show at the Combine and played well at the Senior Bowl. The Broncos could plug him in at right or left tackle, which could mean the team parts ways with Ryan CladyOthers on the edge of the 1st Round: OG Cody Whitehair, SLB Joshua Perry, S Von Bell, WR Braxton Miller, C Ryan Kelly, RB Derrick Henry, DT Vernon Butler
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