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September 29, 2021 at 12:14 pm #132619znModerator
Arizona looking tough. 3-0. Ranked 2nd on offense (1st in points) & 11th on defense (11th in points). (Rams are 3rd, 13th, 20th, & 9th respectively). But then Arz. hasn’t played anyone like Tampa.
Pass rush. Arizona ranked 4th in sacks. (Rams ranked 9th.) A test for the Rams OL.
September 29, 2021 at 12:32 pm #132622znModeratorRams have dominated the Cardinals since hiring Sean McVay in 2017.
8-0 record with a point-differential of +160.
— Kyle Odegard (@Kyle_Odegard) September 29, 2021
September 29, 2021 at 12:37 pm #132623ZooeyModeratorWait! There’s more?
I thought this whole season was settled last weekend.
I’m disappointed.
September 29, 2021 at 1:48 pm #132624znModeratorWait! There’s more?
I thought this whole season was settled last weekend.
I’m disappointed.
Think of it as another season.
This is the post-initial-euphoria season.
The only thing to do now is to wait for the post-first-disappointing-loss-followed-by-grand-rebound season. We just don’t know when that will be.
September 29, 2021 at 7:56 pm #132633znModeratorKyler Murray has yet to defeat the Rams in his short career. Last year getting pressure on Murray while not allowing him to make big plays out of seemingly dire situations proved pivotal. The front 7 will once again have to be at their very best this weekend against a rising foe pic.twitter.com/FrxYOils2Y
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) September 29, 2021
September 29, 2021 at 9:11 pm #132641ZooeyModeratorIt would be a very Rams’ thing to do to win a big, emotional game against the Bucs, and then come out flat against a division opponent the following week in a game that actually matters more.
We will see if they can avoid that letdown game. Because if they CAN, then the Rams literally have nothing to worry about for four more days.
September 30, 2021 at 1:35 am #132652AgamemnonParticipantKliff Kingsbury calls Matthew Stafford ‘a freak show’ at QB, raves about legendary arm talent
Kliff Kingsbury calls Matthew Stafford ‘a freak show’ at QB, raves about legendary arm talent
Cameron DaSilva
September 29, 2021 12:52 pm PTMatthew Stafford has always had impressive arm strength and the innate ability to make some of the toughest throws on a football field. But since becoming a member of the Rams, he’s garnering even more attention from players, analysts and coaches than he was in Detroit.
Take Kliff Kingsbury, for instance, who raved about Stafford’s arm talent and ability at the quarterback position. Ahead of Sunday’s matchup between the Rams and Cardinals, the coach praised Stafford for being a “freak show” at quarterback and having “legendary” arm talent.
Kingsbury would know Stafford’s game, too, having watched him since high school.
Kliff Kingsbury has watched Matthew Stafford since the QB was in high school, so he has a unique perspective on Stafford’s arm strength: “It's legendary. He is a freak show at that position, and his skillset’s really getting the chance to show in Sean's offense.”
— Josh Weinfuss (@joshweinfuss) September 29, 2021
Stafford isn’t afraid to attempt any throw on the field, which can lead to turnovers sometimes, but it also allows him to create big plays that few other quarterbacks can. Kingsbury made a funny comment that some of the throws Stafford makes “a mortal man wouldn’t even attempt.”
More from Kingsbury on Stafford: "Some of the throws he's able to make and cut loose, like a mortal man wouldn't even attempt."
— Josh Weinfuss (@joshweinfuss) September 29, 2021
As we’ve all seen through three weeks, the pairing of Stafford and Sean McVay has worked beautifully. The Rams have 11 touchdown drives of at least 70 yards, Stafford has thrown nine touchdown passes and Los Angeles is scoring on a league-high 58.6% of its possessions.
Kingsbury says it’s “a perfect storm” with Stafford and Kingsbury together, which is bad news for the rest of the division and league.
Kingsbury on Stafford: he's "always had that gunslinger mentality..he will drive that ball down the field" w/his XL arm talent. Calls pairing with McVay: "a perfect storm."
— Paul Calvisi (@PaulCalvisi) September 29, 2021
Kingsbury and the Cardinals will get a taste of the new-look Rams on Sunday when he attempts to snap Arizona’s eight-game losing streak against Los Angeles.
October 1, 2021 at 1:28 am #132689znModeratorKyler Murray and the Cardinals are playing at a high level through three weeks, but what does @BaldyNFL expect in a battle between unbeaten teams when Arizona visits the LA Rams on Sunday?
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— You Better You Bet (@YouBetterYouBet) September 30, 2021
October 2, 2021 at 12:30 am #132709znModeratorEight games… we’ve lost 8 games in a row to the frickin’ Rams. How do we beat this team? Can we?
https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2021/9/29/22699896/how-do-we-beat-the-ing-rams
It’s Rams Week—or, as it has been known for the past four years, Losing Week. As all Cardinals fans must know by now, we have not beaten the Rams since they hired Sean McVay back in 2017. They’ve outscored us 251(!) to 91 in that span, or about a 31-11 ass-kicking every game, including two shutouts.
Things have been a bit closer since Kliff and Kyler took over here in the desert, but not by much—the average loss has *only* been about 30-17. Hey, small progress!
Here’s the thing, though—most of those games have come against Jared Goff, who’s about as mediocre as they come at QB. But he’s been exiled to Detroit and replaced by Matthew Stafford, who sure looks like the league MVP at this (early) point for a 3-0 Rams team that is a true Super Bowl contender.
But this is a new year and the Cardinals are also 3-0 with Kyler playing his way into the MVP conversation. If we’re going to beat the Rams, this Cardinals team with an impressive offense and stout defense looks like it could do it.
So: How, exactly, are we supposed to beat this team that has been running roughshod over us for years and are favored by 4.5 points at home on Sunday? Let’s take a look at the unit matchups (offense vs. defense) and find out.
Cardinals Offense vs. Rams Defense
The Redbirds boast the #2 offense in the league by yardage (in the top-10 in both rushing and passing), and are tied for the #1 scoring offense (34.3 PPG) with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers… who the Rams just squashed. This unit really seems to be clicking in Year 3 of the Kliff and Kyler show with the second-highest yards per play in the league (6.8), although we haven’t exactly faced the toughest slate of defenses (TEN, MIN, JAX). If there’s a weakness or two here, it’s Kyler’s concerning propensity for INTs (4, which is behind only struggling youngsters Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, and Joe Burrow) and performance on 3rd down, where we’re just 11/31 (35.5%, #23 in the league).
The Rams heralded defense lags at #20 in the league in yardage, but is #10 in points against, which makes sense when you realize they’ve been ahead most of the time in their games. The yardage splits confirm this, with the Rams D at #25 against the pass but #11 against the rush. To put it another way, they’ve faced the third-most pass attempts but the sixth-fewest rush attempts. But only 2 of the 131 pass attempts they’ve faced have gone for a TD, compared to 3 INTs (good for #8 in QB rating against). So this bend-not-break unit actually hides a stingy, opportunistic pass defense. Not good news for Kyler and Co. That said, their rush D has allowed 4.3 YPC and 4 TDs on the ground, so perhaps going more Ground Raid than Air Raid would be a good idea. Finally, the Rams have struggled a bit on 3rd down, with teams converting at a 45.7% clip, but they button up on 4th down, allowing just 1/7 conversions. Go figure. Those stats could easily come into play on Sunday.
Edge: Although the Cardinals offense looks like it’s taking a leap to elite status this season, you still have to give the edge to the Rams here. They’ve consistently stymied us in recent years no matter who is under center, and we have yet to prove we can score against them. I could easily see a couple of Kyler picks on Sunday.
Cardinals Defense vs. Rams Offense
Vance Joseph’s defense sits just outside the top-10 in yardage and scoring, ranking #11 in both. The yardage splits are of interest. Our pass defense is #8 in the league, including #10 in QB rating against and a tie for #4 in sacks. But our run defense is one of the worst in the league so far, ranking at #29… despite bottling up Derrick Henry in Week 1. (Both Minnesota and Jacksonville racked up 150+ yards on the ground against us.) Overall, this is a solid unit that’s played well against some decent offenses… although nothing like the Rams’.
On paper, our defensive strengths and weaknesses match up well against this Rams offense. The Rams have the #6 passing offense on the arm of Stafford and his instant chemistry with Cooper Kupp, but their running attack is all the way down at #27. That’ll happen when you lose a your top two RBs. But this is still the #3 offense in yards per play (6.7) and scoring (31.7 PPG). They also limit turnovers (just two on the season). I’m sure McVay would like to get more out of his running game, but this isn’t an offense built around 1,200-yard seasons from Todd Gurley anymore. This is Stafford’s show, and they have the whole league watching.
Edge: Again, although our defense is playing well, you have to give the edge to the Rams again not only because of recent history (McVay just has our number) but because of how Stafford has completely reshaped this unit. McVay finally has a QB who can fully execute his offense, and the league—especially the Cardinals—need to watch out.
Other Factors
I wanted to mention two other points of interest quickly. The first is penalties. Surprisingly, the Cardinals are actually middle of the pack (#16) in penalties after 3 games with 20 flags, and they haven’t been too damaging, as we’re only #25 in penalty yards (157). At the risk of stating the obvious: if the Cardinals have any chance of pulling off the upset, we need to limit penalties. The only thing is… the Rams aren’t going to beat themselves. They have committed just 7(!) penalties on the season for just 55 yards, both tops in the league. This is just a disciplined, well-coached team.
The other point is time of possession. There’s a definite disparity here, with the Cardinals ranking #6 in the league (32:42) and the Rams ranking #25 (27.48). These numbers are a function of a few things. For one, the Cardinals run the ball better, and two, the Rams score so damn quickly. But, and again I’m stating the obvious, keeping the ball out of Stafford’s hands as much as possible is a smart idea. (Albeit one that hasn’t worked for any of the Rams’ opponents yet.)
Final Thoughts
After looking over these stats/matchups, here’s the picture I’m seeing: These are two of the best offenses in the league, and both defenses are better against the pass than the run. The Rams are the more polished, disciplined team, but the Cardinals are improving in that aspect. I do see the Rams as the better overall team, but not by much. The 4.5-point spread implies about a 1.5-point advantage for the Rams on a neutral field, which sounds about right.
So: Can the Cardinals finally end their 8-game losing streak at the hands of Sean McVay and the Rams? Sure they *can*. This is the best version of the Kliff and Kyler show that we’ve seen, and Vance Joseph is doing yeoman’s work with the defense. I’m fully ready to take back much of my past criticism of Kliff and Vance if this team is a true contender.
But to be a true contender, this team needs to beat the Rams. So: *Will* the Cardinals beat the Rams on the road on Sunday?
I’ll once more state the obvious: It depends on how they play. DUH. But what I mean is it depends on, I think, how our offense attacks the Rams defense. If we show up in Los Angeles and try to turn the game into a track meet, airing it out and hoping Kyler can outduel Stafford, I think we lose. Potentially hard. Bruce Arians and Tom Brady—only the defending champs—just tried that last weekend and lost by double digits. That’s not, I think, how you beat this team.
But the Cardinals have always had a strong run game under Kliff, kind of ironic for one of the early proponents of the Air Raid. From the numbers/matchups I’m seeing, the way we win this game is on the ground. That limits the potential for back-breaking turnovers and keeps the ball out of Stafford’s hands. Of course we’ll take our shots downfield—we’d be stupid not to—but that shouldn’t be options 1A and 1B.
Instead, I hope we see liberal doses of Chase Edmonds and James Conner pounding the rock, and a season-high rushing total from Kyler, which is just 31 yards. If he can get to 50 or so and Edmonds/Conner can combine for 100—or 150+ total—I like our chances. If the run game gets shut down or we abandon it, I think we come home with our 9th-straight loss to the Rams.
I hope we “Ram It” down their throats all afternoon and end that ignominious streak. It’s time to make a statement, Cardinals.
October 2, 2021 at 8:17 am #132710znModeratorAaron Donald Vs Kyler Murray, coming to a Sunday near you… pic.twitter.com/pVHK2MayL6
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) October 1, 2021
October 2, 2021 at 9:20 am #132714znModeratorThe vast majority of NFL experts are picking the Rams to beat the Cardinals in Week 4. https://t.co/x4BUUACR7l
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 2, 2021
October 2, 2021 at 1:44 pm #132724znModeratorArizona Cardinals at Los Angeles Rams – 4:05 p.m. Sunday
The Rams won the biggest games of the year to date, beating the defending Super Bowl champion Buccaneers, 34-24. Matthew Stafford outdueled Tom Brady, throwing for 343 yards and four touchdowns. Los Angeles led by multiple scores for much of the second half, and its defense registered six tackles for loss, including Aaron Donald’s first-ever sack of Brady. The Rams made their statement in the NFC; now they’ll look to do the same in their division against the Cardinals. Los Angeles opened as 5.5-point favorites.
Arizona continues to quiet offseason skeptics during a 3-0 start. The Cardinals beat the Jaguars 31-19, scoring 21 unanswered points to avoid the upset. James Conner ran for a pair of touchdowns while Kyler Murray added a third, and Byron Murphy returned an interception for a score, one of four takeaways by the Arizona defense. To get to 4-0, the Cardinals will need to snap an eight-game skid against the Rams.
October 2, 2021 at 7:33 pm #132736AgamemnonParticipantOctober 3, 2021 at 10:07 am #132742znModeratorInteresting game. Actually a big challenge.
Rankings.
Offensive yards.
Arizona: 2nd
LA: 13thOffensive points.
Arizona: 1st
LA: 3rdDefensive yards.
Arizona: 11th
LA: 20thDefensive points allowed.
Arizona: 11th
LA: 9th -
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