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July 5, 2020 at 8:04 am #117586wvParticipant
At the 1hr and 20 minute mark (i started it there), Adolph alludes to the corporate-lib notion that you cant be ‘working class’ and ‘black’:
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July 5, 2020 at 8:23 am #117587wvParticipantAdolph referred to Preston H. Smith’s book:
July 5, 2020 at 10:15 am #117590InvaderRamModeratorAdolph alludes to the corporate-lib notion that you cant be ‘working class’ and ‘black’
yeah. that’s the most annoying thing. well. one of the most annoying things that people don’t seem to get. or maybe just ignore.
July 5, 2020 at 10:23 am #117591znModeratorAdolph alludes to the corporate-lib notion that you cant be ‘working class’ and ‘black’
yeah. that’s the most annoying thing. well. one of the most annoying things that people don’t seem to get. or maybe just ignore.
Yeah that was an interesting vid.
July 5, 2020 at 1:13 pm #117601wvParticipantAdolph alludes to the corporate-lib notion that you cant be ‘working class’ and ‘black’
yeah. that’s the most annoying thing. well. one of the most annoying things that people don’t seem to get. or maybe just ignore.
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Preston Smith should be more well-known. In another country, he would be.w
vJuly 5, 2020 at 11:44 pm #117614CalParticipantI like what Reed said just before the video started. I thought this was an interesting comment.
This [the most recent shift in the protests] is the bread and circus stuff that appeals to the other side and you can feel the long hand of the Ford Foundation and leadership development corporations shaping the institutional structure of a political economy of race relations administration in a certain direction so that it moves in a slightly different direction, farther away from anything that smells anything like class re-distribution.
Interesting stuff–I looked up the Ford Foundation and was intrigued to see BLM protest photos on the website of a multi-billion non-profit that has been operating since the 60’s.
Off topic–If you still need info WV about sharpening a (Japanese) knife a friend of mine sent me an insightful email as I need to put a sharper blade on my knife.
July 6, 2020 at 12:18 am #117617znModeratorInteresting stuff–I looked up the Ford Foundation and was intrigued to see BLM protest photos on the website of a multi-billion non-profit that has been operating since the 60’s.
I said this before but I think it’s still relevant. Once upon a time Chomsky said that the Vietnam era represented a time when the ruling elite and wealthy powers that be were divided, some being against the war. When that happens policy looks more contested and open.
This is a time like that. The ruling elite and powers that be are divided, with many listening to the BLM moment with open ears. It resonates with a deep-seated belief that human rights must be equal or they’re not real.
The same belief can remain narrow so that issues of racial justice seem urgent and fair and necessary while at the same time, issues of economic inequality and class and etc. stay tuned out.
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July 6, 2020 at 7:33 am #117618wvParticipantI like what Reed said just before the video started. I thought this was an interesting comment.
This [the most recent shift in the protests] is the bread and circus stuff that appeals to the other side and you can feel the long hand of the Ford Foundation and leadership development corporations shaping the institutional structure of a political economy of race relations administration in a certain direction so that it moves in a slightly different direction, farther away from anything that smells anything like class re-distribution.
Interesting stuff–I looked up the Ford Foundation and was intrigued to see BLM protest photos on the website of a multi-billion non-profit that has been operating since the 60’s.
Off topic–If you still need info WV about sharpening a (Japanese) knife a friend of mine sent me an insightful email as I need to put a sharper blade on my knife.
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Yeah, we used to talk about a Thomas Frank collection of essays back in the 90s, called ‘Commodify Your Dissent.’ Its kindof about that whole subject of the system taking authentic-dissent and turning it into something tame so it doesnt actually threaten capitalism. Think of CHE earrings and such.
This ‘process’ of domesticating and shaping dissent-movements
would not work if the citizens actually had higher political-IQs. But they’ve been dummed-down so far, that its not that hard for the system to nudge them, shape them, bewilder them, tame them, divert them…Ah well.
I dont wanna sound too dark though. 🙂 This latest uprising did indeed lead to some nice reforms in some places. Colorado.
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link:https://www.amazon.com/Commodify-Your-Dissent-Salvos-Baffler/dp/0393316734
Amazon.com Review
In this thought-provoking collection of essays, editor Thomas Frank and other contributors to the contrarian journal the Baffler examine the unprecedented ascendancy of business as the dominating force in American life. If the closest historical parallel is with the Gilded Age and its all-powerful robber barons, Frank and his ilk clearly see themselves as the muckrakers out to expose the absurdities and abuses of big business. Today, however, advertising has come to permeate every aspect of our society, and corporations are in the business of manufacturing culture–what Frank calls the “Culture Trust.” These essays analyze the ways in which this Culture Trust has co-opted the power of dissent by appropriating the language and symbolism of nonconformist youth culture, from hippie slang to grunge fashion; in other words, when the media markets rebellion, it becomes just another consumer choice. As evidence, the essayists explore the image of consumer as rebel pioneered by publications such as Details and Wired, as well as the preeminence of “revolutionary” business gurus such as Tom Peters. The result is a highly original book, a satirical and savage indictment of ’90s consumerist culture.
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You’d have to look back at the fights between New York intellectuals in the fifties to find the sort of verbal firepower unleashed here. — Nation[Frank is] … perhaps the most provocative young cultural critic of the moment, and certainly the most malcontent… Although he has been to graduate school … both his thinking and his prose hark back to a time when the radical left was something more in America than conferences and seminars attended by Foucault-steeped professors. Frank has thrown off the mandarin jargon; for him it’s about wealth and power, haves and have-nots, loud and simple–it’s as if he were channeling Herbert Marcuse and C. Wright Mills and Thorstein Veblen through a boom box. — The New York Times Book Review, Gerald Marzorati
From the Back Cover
The 1980s and 1990s have seen an enormous increase in the power of business over the American mind. Not since the Gilded Age have the robber barons of business accumulated more wealth or won more popular attention. But where the tycoons of yore built railroads or banks, today culture stands at the heart of American enterprise and mass entertainment has become its economic dynamo. For a decade The Baffler magazine has been an invigorating voice of dissent against these developments, in the tradition of the muckrakers and H. L. Mencken’s The American Mercury. Commodity Your Dissent gathers together the best of its excoriating criticism of the new American cultural order, exploring such peculiar developments as the birth of the rebel consumer as hero in the pages of Wired and Details; the dramatic rise of “alternative” culture in the post-Nirvana era; the appearance of new business gurus like Tom Peters and corporate fads like “reengineering”; the ever-accelerating race to market youth culture; and the encroachment of advertising and commercial enterprise into every last nook and cranny of American life.
About the Author
Thomas Frank is the author of One Market Under God and The Conquest of Cool.July 6, 2020 at 1:10 pm #117640znModeratorYeah, we used to talk about a Thomas Frank collection of essays back in the 90s, called ‘Commodify Your Dissent.’
Thomas Frank
Here is it folks: populism and the people who hate it. The book has finally come lumbering off the production line and will be mailed on Bastille day. My first book ever with color illustrations. The perfect pandemic pastime.
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