Some plays from game 1: what Hill looks like

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  • November 12, 2014 at 6:28 pm #11730
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    hill didn’t look horrendous in his short time on the field against the vikes. anyway, here’s to hoping hill can at least play decently enough to make the game interesting.

    November 13, 2014 at 4:28 pm #11770
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    I went back and watched Hill play and, even as a Hill fan from TC I have to say, he’s better than I remembered.

    -People who say he isn’t mobile need to go watch him. With a pass rush in his face most of the game he only took 1 sack and that was because a blind side DE came up from behind him and knocked the ball free which he fell on and saved. This is the play where I believe he was injured as his shoulder was jammed back on the hit and he threw only one more time. Other than that, he moved in the pocket and delivered time after time. He scrambled out of the pocket and extended plays a couple of times but, with his play, that’s all he needed to. After he left the game, there were four more sacks which I believe is a testament to his ability to avoid pressure.

    -If my assessment is correct, he threw one bad pass and that was the interception immediately after the play where he was probably injured. I forgot how many sweet throws he made that were called back by penalty, dropped passes, or where the player didn’t go past the first down marker. Of the other incompletes, one was an 8 man blitz that collapsed the line and he overthrew the receiver deep by 5 yards but the defender drew a flag. It looked to me like either the receiver couldn’t get to his spot or Hill was throwing away the ball without drawing the intentional grounding. However, it could have just been that he overthrew the receiver from the pressure. The second was a pass to no one deep that appeared to be a missed route by the receiver. The third was the interception that was a circus catch interception. Some say he was throwing the ball away but either way, it’s on him.

    -Hill hit his hot route every time he needed to and there was a receiver open. He didn’t miss once. Every hot route pass that wasn’t complete was the receiver dropping a pass directly to them.

    Now that the penalties have subsided and the receivers are catching better, I could see Hill having a monster game. Dude has an ARM. His short passes have zing when needed and touch where needed and were dead on right where the receiver needed the ball to be.

    He threw with anticipation and hit receivers in stride. He went through his reads and kept his eyes downfield.

    His long bombs were deep and accurate other than the ones I mentioned.

    What impressed me most was his presence. Completely calm. Moving in the pocket. Setting his feet and delivering. Defeating pressure with dump off passes or scrambling.

    I think the Rams, other than their O line, are far better than they have appeared and Hill is going to be able to exploit that. If you go back and remove the penalties and dropped passes he would have been dominating the Vikings. Now throw in the Rams’ D that is finally living up to their talent and I can’t help but believe this is going to be a hell of a game and that the rest of the season, at the very least, is going to be exciting with more wins than not.

    November 14, 2014 at 3:07 pm #11821
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    Hill actually is quite mobile, he just doesn’t run around when its not necessary. I saw someone mention he isn’t much taller than Davis. Well, he IS 6’3, so I would say that is a dramatic difference, and simply from an experience standpoint, figures not to be as rattled when facing the heavy doses of blitzing opponents have been deploying against Davis. Being “mobile” does not mean running around. For all his athleticism (scrambling “ability”), Davis ran himself into more sacks than he would have got by simply staying in the pocket and getting the ball out.

    Hill is not “the answer” to all the QB woes, but he does provide a change of pace, and will be less likely to make the crucial turnovers that has plagued Davis. And when there are plays to be made (when receivers get behind the secondary), I have little doubt Hill will manage to get them the ball. He will be more accurate, (and I am not talking just about completion percentage).

    He will get the ball out on time, and know where to go with it before the pressure gets to him. He will take hits along the way, but I will be surprised if the sacks against doesn’t go down.

    November 14, 2014 at 4:19 pm #11826
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    That second gif shows Hill against a blitz. The safety walks up to the line to make it look like he’s blitzing, At the snap of the ball the safety drops back into coverage but all three LB’s blitz. That makes a total of seven pass rushers. Hill calmly and quickly reads the all-out blitz and hits the hot receiver in single coverage across the middle before the safety can help.

    I don’t want to make too much of this (it was only one play) but this is an example of a QB reading the blitz while keeping his eyes downfield and knowing where he’d have single coverage and making a decisive throw. If he had hesitated the safety coming to help would have broken up the pass or he would have been sacked. In other words, Hill did just the opposite of what Davis has been doing against the blitz. Davis never seemed to anticipate the blitz and instead of finding his hot receiver he would hold the ball and/or try to bail out of the pocket. The entire time his eyes would be on the pass rush instead of looking downfield.

    Again, it’s only one play but it’s lightyears away from what we’ve been seeing with Davis.

    November 14, 2014 at 4:27 pm #11827
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    nittany ram wrote:

    That second gif shows Hill against a blitz. The safety walks up to the line to make it look like he’s blitzing, At the snap of the ball the safety drops back into coverage but all three LB’s blitz. That makes a total of seven pass rushers. Hill calmly and quickly reads the all-out blitz and hits the hot receiver in single coverage across the middle before the safety can help.

    I don’t want to make too much of this (it was only one play) but this is an example of a QB reading the blitz while keeping his eyes downfield and knowing where he’d have single coverage and making a decisive throw. If he had hesitated the safety coming to help would have broken up the pass or he would have been sacked. In other words, Hill did just the opposite of what Davis has been doing against the blitz. Davis never seemed to anticipate the blitz and instead of finding his hot receiver he would hold the ball and/or try to bail out of the pocket. The entire time his eyes would be on the pass rush instead of looking downfield.

    Again, it’s only one play but it’s lightyears away from what we’ve been seeing with Davis.

    One wonders how it is
    that Davis did so well
    his first few games.
    I mean, surely teams were
    blitzing the youngster in those games.

    w
    v

    November 14, 2014 at 4:35 pm #11828
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    wv wrote:

    nittany ram wrote:
    That second gif shows Hill against a blitz. The safety walks up to the line to make it look like he’s blitzing, At the snap of the ball the safety drops back into coverage but all three LB’s blitz. That makes a total of seven pass rushers. Hill calmly and quickly reads the all-out blitz and hits the hot receiver in single coverage across the middle before the safety can help.

    I don’t want to make too much of this (it was only one play) but this is an example of a QB reading the blitz while keeping his eyes downfield and knowing where he’d have single coverage and making a decisive throw. If he had hesitated the safety coming to help would have broken up the pass or he would have been sacked. In other words, Hill did just the opposite of what Davis has been doing against the blitz. Davis never seemed to anticipate the blitz and instead of finding his hot receiver he would hold the ball and/or try to bail out of the pocket. The entire time his eyes would be on the pass rush instead of looking downfield.

    Again, it’s only one play but it’s lightyears away from what we’ve been seeing with Davis.

    One wonders how it is
    that Davis did so well
    his first few games.
    I mean, surely teams were
    blitzing the youngster in those games.

    w
    v

    The Rams could run the ball in their first few games. That’s why Davis did so well. Play action was working. When they started playing better defenses and they couldn’t run anymore, defenses could exploit Davis’ weaknesses, which is specifically, an inability to stand in the pocket and read a defense, especially when he’s hurried by a blitz.

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