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  • #70396
    zn
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    We just need an interesting topic.

    How about this…Cutting Rhaney–Tragedy or Injustice?

    #70397
    Agamemnon
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    Progress. The Rams have replaced every center who on the roster last year.
    69 SULLIVAN, JOHN 60b Eldrenkamp, Jake 66b Blythe, Austin
    61 Barnes, Tim SF11 65 Rhaney, Demetrius 14/7 60 Kush, Eric W/Hou
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    McVay said he had to tell Sullivan to quit calling the defenses and let Goff do it. Because he was making it too hard on the defense and screwing up the drills.
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    The Rams still need to cross train someone, because Eldrenkamp and Blythe probably can’t fill in for both guard and center on the active roster. imo

    Agamemnon

    #70399
    InvaderRam
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    they need to draft a developmental guy next year.

    maybe if sully stays healthy this year they’re able to keep him for another year or too.

    hopefully he stays healthy this year.

    did they focus too much on drafting skill position players when they should have drafted a center?

    #70402
    zn
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    they need to draft a developmental guy next year.

    maybe if sully stays healthy this year they’re able to keep him for another year or too.

    hopefully he stays healthy this year.

    did they focus too much on drafting skill position players when they should have drafted a center?

    I think they like Eldrenkamp. So who knows at this point.

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    #70403
    Agamemnon
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    7 FAs starters on defense and only Sullivan on offense.
    Mo Alexander should be on the list too.

    Agamemnon

    #70405
    zn
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    7 FAs starters on defense and only Sullivan on offense.
    Mo Alexander should be on the list too.

    Any early word on the strengths of the 2018 draft?

    Cause…for the Rams, they need a defensive draft.

    I can’t see them keeping all those guys. In fact I would make it just Ogletree. That means having to draft CBs, safeties, OLBS, and DEs.

    #70410
    Agamemnon
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    Any early word on the strengths of the 2018 draft?

    Cause…for the Rams, they need a defensive draft.

    I can’t see them keeping all those guys. In fact I would make it just Ogletree. That means having to draft CBs, safeties, OLBS, and DEs.

    2018, offensive linemen seems strong.

    It sort of depends on which top paid players we keep. It isn’t a big disaster. imo

    Agamemnon

    #70411
    Agamemnon
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    Figured on Salary Cap of $178 million for 2018.

    The rule is: 10-14 players can use 60 – 65 % of the Salary Cap. Or 8 players for 50%. Either works. Or something inbetween. The idea is to keep as many of your best players as you can. Sometimes you have to make value judgements. Is this player at X-amount a better value than this player at Y-amount. I use the franchise numbers as a percentage of the Salary Cap and put players in tiers to get a rough estimate.

    Salaries under 3.0% are part of the remaining approx. 40% of the Salary Cap. We did a thread on Salary Cap Models. look here => http://theramshuddle.com/topic/one-kind-of-roster-model/

    You have to decide which combination of best players at their best values gives you the most bang for the buck and still have enough left to fill out a reasonable roster.

    I would probably drop Trumaine sign the rest that need to be extended and draft CBs and DLine.

    I think the Rams could have done better on contracts and the Salary Cap the last couple years, but that is history. Today is Day Zero.

    2018 is the big year, then it is just the Gurley Class, the Goff class, then this year’s class. The last 3 years won’t have the large number of free agents to deal with and they have a lower number of premium drafts picks on the roster to try to retain.

    Agamemnon

    #70413
    Agamemnon
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    http://www.phillyvoice.com/look-strong-positions-2018-nfl-draft-and-how-they-match-eagles-needs/

    May 09, 2017
    A look at the strong positions in the 2018 NFL Draft, and how they match up with the Eagles’ needs
    Eagles NFL Philadelphia 2018 NFL Draft
    By Jimmy Kempski
    PhillyVoice Staff

    After the conclusion of the 2017 NFL Draft, a number of you have asked what positions are strong in the 2018 NFL Draft. I had little idea, other than that the running back class looks good, and I knew a lot of people are high on some of the quarterbacks.

    And so, I asked CBS draft analyst Dane Brugler (follow him on Twitter here) for his opinion on which positions are strong in the 2018 NFL Draft. His reply:

    It’s obviously very early and plenty will change between now and next April. But early forecasts point to quarterback and secondary being two of the deepest and most talented position groups in the 2018 class. Offensive tackle and defensive tackle were the two weakest positions in the 2017 class, but both should make somewhat of a resurgence with several intriguing prospects, including a handful of potential top-25 players.

    Agamemnon

    #70414
    Agamemnon
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    link: http://gbnreport.com/strengths-2018-draft/

    Offensive Strengths of 2018 draft
    By Colin Lindsay | May 14, 2017
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    by Larry Parker, GBN College Football Investigative Reporter

    May 15, 2017

    The 2018 draft is still over 11.5 months away and much can happen between now and April of next year, but a preliminary perusal of next year’s draft class suggests that the offensive positions of strengths for next year’s draft will be Quarterback, Wide Receiver, and Offensive Tackle.

    could make the QB position one of the strongest overall positions for 2018, depending on how many of the aforementioned underclassmen declare early entry.

    Just on the senior class depth alone, regardless of how many underclassmen declare early entry, the WR position, in my opinion, has the best top to bottom strength out of all the different positions for the 2018 draft.

    All in all, the 2018 OT crop is a pretty deep and solid group, that should have many NFL teams excited to get them on their rosters.

    Agamemnon

    #70415
    zn
    Moderator

    The rule is: 10-14 players can use 60 – 65 % of the Salary Cap. Or 8 players for 50%. Either works. Or something inbetween.

    Ag did you write that or is that part of the article from that post?

    Either way I like the 65% for 10-14, 50% for 8 thing and from now on I will put it that way.

    #70418
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    Ag did you write that or is that part of the article from that post?

    Either way I like the 65% for 10-14, 50% for 8 thing and from now on I will put it that way.

    I wrote it. It originates from earlier stuff of “A Salary Cap Model”. Either way works, they are similar. The idea is that keeping as many “star” players as you can is the best way to maximize cap spending. I prefer working with percent and I think you prefer dollars. Just take my post and use the dollar amounts as part of a $178M cap. 50% is roughly $90M. Divided by 8 equals ~$11M per player. As of now, for 2018, the Rams have 9 players making 47% fo the cap or $83m of $178m.

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    Agamemnon

    #70429
    Agamemnon
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    https://overthecap.com/texture/

    Here is a Salary Cap Model from ‘Over the Cap’. They break the roster into 3 parts. This is close to what I do. They have 9 players using 58.5% of the Cap.
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    I use players making above 3%, players making between 3% – 1%, and all the rest below 1%.
    Population of my groups for the Rams are 10, 11, 32.

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    Agamemnon

    #70434
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    7 FAs starters on defense and only Sullivan on offense.
    Mo Alexander should be on the list too.

    Any early word on the strengths of the 2018 draft?

    Cause…for the Rams, they need a defensive draft.

    I can’t see them keeping all those guys. In fact I would make it just Ogletree. That means having to draft CBs, safeties, OLBS, and DEs.

    corners safeties olbs and des.

    hopefully a guy like johnson can step in as a starter next year.

    but yeah. re-sign ogletree.

    #70438
    InvaderRam
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    still gotta draft olinemen though. can’t let it get away from them. doesn’t have to be a high draft pick. but they should be trying to draft at least one lineman every year.

    #70439
    zn
    Moderator

    hopefully a guy like johnson can step in as a starter next year.

    still gotta draft olinemen though.

    Yeah I think Johnson will turn out to be a valuable pick. Since he played SS in OTAs, he actually allows them to choose whether to keep Joyner or Alexander, if they decide to keep one.

    Agreed on OL.

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