Agamemnon wrote:

Zooey wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

I think Foles is good enough to get us to the Playoffs. I think Mannion will be better. I am still drafting Cook next year.

You think he will still be available at #32?

There might be as many as 5 QBs in the 1st round next year.

agreed. I’m hoping for a 1983 draft type year for QBs with a big influx of real good pro talent to the NFL.
They’ll have the warts but will be very obvious NFL talents. imo
I even think Fisher will make a play for one using future high picks if he can get close to one…or one has a really bad year and drops to 10-15th slot.

I think there’s a “willingness” for Foles to take chances downfield….that will bode more us in bigger plays cuz I like our 2 tall WRs (Britt&Quick) for those jump balls. Foles did demonstrate that against the Rams last year and we should picked him off 3-4 times in that game. imo

To be honest, I was NOT impressed by Foles and thought he panicked against us last year and threw up some punts. I think he has that tendency, at times when the play falls apart…but he can also move/slip the pass rush and make plays too. I just hope the good outweighs the bad enough for us to win the game. I’m all for risk from my QB – that’s why I like Connor Cook, he’s fearless which is good…and can lose game like Farvre could. However, overall, I think I like that aggressive style of QB play. That’s why I like that aspect of Foles…and of Cook coming out next year tho we won’t be in position to draft probably.

yeah that…thanks for posting that, zn.

I realized I was referencing nothing! 😉

yep, I agree wv….this team is ready to play and very deep talent-wise.
The only fear I have is Foles getting hurt…other than that, I think the team could survive an injury to any other player and still win. imo

we’ll see in a few more months how the OL shapes up…but I believe Boo will get the kids on the OL working as one…there WILL be mistakes but they’ll get er done as these 5-6 new OL kids seem like dedicated hard workers that can overcome their physical limitations with great teamwork as an OL unit. Let us pray! 😉

I like d how Foles updated and fixed the narrative of the story…
I thought that was classy of him to adjust the narrative.

once the EJD negotiations went the way they did, the state dedicated itself to having a plan, and those are NOT done overnight. So arguably the St. Louis plan shows up the soonest it ever possible COULD show up. In fact, it is quite likely that Stan made his LA stadium issue public when he did in order to undermine the St. Louis presentation, and that he did that precisely to TRY and make the “too little too late” case, when in fact him doing that could just as easily be taken as backing the “he never made an honest effort to deal with St. Louis” case.

Yeah, yer point is taken…it’s ALL speculation and wishful thinking on my part. 😉
…a fella can dream, can’t he?!…and spread baseless rumors too!
I mean, this is the internet after all! LOL

BUT…to be fair…the whole arbitration and Rams presentation and plans for renovations 2 yrs ago….
were met with no counter plans or other than offer 127mil to renovate/fix the stadium. StLouis had no plan or response or even hiring someone to just make drawings on behalf of THEIR view for a renovation or even a new stadium.

2 years goes by and now we get an attempt? Whatever was done by Stan was offered years ago in what appears to be good faith presentation…and an offer for renovation that appears less expensive than the latest offer put forth by StLouis on Friday. If there’s any bad faith in negotiations, it would appear to be on the side of the city….by waiting. The Rams had their plans ready on the deadline years ago…the city dragged their feet and had no foresight…especially by giving Stan a HUGE upper hand in negotiations.

btw – I don’t know if anything I said above is true…
but that’s never stopped me before! 😉

GreatRamNTheSky wrote:

Love SunTzu’s post. Well thought out.

I personally believe and admittedly I am biased for LA and you all know that.

I Personally believe the Rams and the league are both in alliance on the Kroenke LA proposal in Inglewood.
For Mr. Peacock, comparing his open air cute little stadium to the 80,000 seat NFL palace in Inglewood is like trying to trump paradise with a nice little rose garden by the river.

Back in the 1970s or early 80s Peacock’s stadium plan may have been really something but today its really boring.
The concept for the stadium looks like it was borrowed from a number of older stadiums that exist today.

Lets talk about seating capacity. 64,000 seats, 2000 less than the EJD which is 66,000. 16,000 less than the stadium proposed in Inglewood which is 80,000. Then we get into the save the Riverfront aspect which is very nice. I appreciate preservation of our history vs the NFL theme and the other features of the City of Champions project. The historic riverfront stuff does nothing for the NFL. The City of Champions Project will be all inclusive of the NFL experience including a studio for the NFL network which is based in Los Angeles.

Kroenke’s plan is to be privately financed. Peacock’s plan involves public funding and what is going to be the return for the NFL on the Peacock plan? No where near as much as the return on the new stadium in Inglewood with all that includes and no where near as much as being in the Entertainment capital of the nation if not the world. The City of Champions project screams Super Bowls and final fours and other huge events. Peacock’s stadium? Really, a Super Bowl in a 64,000 seat stadium?

Maybe Peacock’s plan will eventually bring another team desperate for a stadium to STL but, it won’t be the Rams.

Grits

Agreed, GRITS….
The Inglewood site will be an NFL flagship in the 2nd biggest market and the NFL crown-jewel 😉
A venue that hosts soccer, NFL Network offices, NFL Experience parks…everything NFL…
and – all year around due to the weather! It’ll be the Disneyworld of the NFL…for tourists!!

IMO – The NFL being so quiet about all this shows complicity with Stan. Cuz no way Stan announces without already getting the tacit agreement from Tags/NFL/Owners….I don’t care what Spanos says about blocking with 9 votes.
Spanos is just jealous cuz he didn’t have the means to do what Stan has done. But more importantly it’ll pass
Cuz the NFL wants this BAD…and can get it without taxpayers being involved.

IMO – THIS NFL/Disneyworld concept is what the NFL has been waiting for in LA….it’d be a helluva splash! It’s gonna ba a collaborative/joint effort with Stan/HollywoodPark owners & the NFL…and all penalties will be waived/paid back/mitigated somehow for the Rams to move.

As for WVs post about the NFL rules and Stan not being able to move just to make more money…it’s way bigger than that, I think. The Rams have won arbitration and STLouis has dragged their feet for 2 years now…doing nothing.
Good faith has been demonstrated by the Rams and this could’ve been settled with the 700mil renovation of the Dome 2 yrs ago.
The fact that Peacock just now presented his plans/drawings is weak negotiating, as if an afterthought – but the worst part is what was said about the toughest aspect of the plan….the financing.
That was presented as has yet to be fleshed out and does involve taxpayer money thru extension on Bonds of the EJD. It’s all too little too late!

I have no idea what’s really happening…and I’m just kinda spit-balling here….so who knows!
I love the Horns no matter where they move…

….but living here in Orange County and marrying a Rams cheerleader from the 1994….
I’d sure love them to come back home!

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yeah…I live in Orange County, CA…
and the thot of any PSLs anywhere in the US – is just MADNESS.

Hangin in there…thanx for asking, wv!

yeah, zn…and you!
…and all the other great guys here!

I hope to frequent RH more often leading up to the draft.
My brother Alyo still lingers at the HERD and so I hover there….sometimes too much.
I’m a little more hopeful/positive about the team’s direction than most posters there
and have been labelled/dismissed as an idealist/glass half-full/too positive kinda fan.
Probably true….but I just know from being in a huddle that the QB has to be the most absurdly optimistic
player for 60 minutes…in order to get others to play hard and believe they can win.

Anyway, glad to read ya’ll again and I’m thankful RH is still here.
I miss the rational vibe. 😉

Bradford was safe with the football…maybe too safe if that’s possible(…and it IS).
However, as we saw with Davis & Hill….turnovers kill!!!

That being said, during the pre-season, ALL 3 QBs threw downfield far more than ever before. It’s clear
there was a deliberate attempt from Schotty/Fisher…to push the ball farther down field. I think the development of our WRs was a factor. Britt was a revelation…and Quick looked like a beast until injured. Quick took 2 years to step up and looked like he was ready. Tavon is lightening in a bottle and I suspect he will be utilized downfield also – along with his gimmick motion- jet sweep stuff.

I think Bradford beats out any QB they bring in. NOT cuz they paid him money and really want him to be the starter…but cuz Bradford EARNED it and is better than other QBs. Tho injured, I don’t think Bradford is injury prone with chronic re-injuries…sans the ACL. The shoulder and ankle have not been issues…and ACLs are “wrong place wrong time” injuries…in that they happen to ANYONE in the same situation. imo

Palmer tore his ACL once and came back and played great for the Cards until tearing it again. IF Bradford is brought back, I think that in our run-oriented offense and PA passing…Bradford will thrive in 2015. Fisher has made this team better every year – talentwise….and I think their record in 2015 will reflect that if there is even avg/conservative QB play.

I think Bradford would do very well in this offense next year.
I’d like an open competition between Bradford/Davis/rookie QB pick.

I think Bradford would continue the push down-field passing game by all 3 QBs this pre-season.
Bradford’s health is a concern…but not with Davis/Hill on the bench. Our offense doesn’t ask much from it’s QB other than make the throws and don’t throw INTs. Bradford is very safe with the ball, but was starting to push the ball downfield this PS
– AND WAS GOOD AT IT!!!! Bradford doesn’t have the mobility that Davis has but man, Bradford has better arm & accuracy for mid-deeper throws and I think is a better passer than Davis. We’ll see. Either way, I’m for building a DEEP QB group – like what they did for the DL and RBs. I sure hope and would feel more relaxed having Bradford signed to a “prove it” contract next year w/incentives. I also will be interested how Bradford handles the challenge. Will he sign for less and want to stay and prove he’s the guy in StLouis? Or will he bolt for the money? Remember, he has 50mil already….
I’m curious if pride and/or competitiveness will rise up in Bradford and he’ll take the challenge!

Zooey wrote:

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/09/the-geography-of-nfl-fandom/379729/?utm_source=taboola

Interesting to me that the Raiders have more loyalty in LA than the Rams do.

I think it’s just the team colors of the Raiders.
Most folks(especially the Gangs)…….like the menacing dark look of the Silver&Black…
and not so much the Rams’ colors.
Canary Yellow and Royal Blue don’t look too cool or scary!!! lol

Agreed, WV.
I like Bradford, ADavis and even Hill or Kennum. But I would add a high draft pick at QB to throw into the mix and then we will have a very deep QB group…at the toughest most valuable position in football. Even trade one for a few high picks, eh?! 😉

zn wrote:

I know I mentioned this to you earlier this evening. But, I think the secret to this game was simple. Hill played hurt. He aggravated it during the game. Given that, there was some kind of number going on out there–players were pressing, and you do that when you don’t have confidence. It’s one thing to lose Bradford–that screws with the team’s psyche already–but now here’s a young team and they know their qb is limited and playing hurt and he’s THE #2.

(How many teams in the history of the game had to start their #3 qb in game one. I want to emphasize that. Played their #3 QB…in GAME ONE.)

If Hill hadn’t aggravated the thing and just continued as he was going, even hurt, they would have had a chance…it at least would have been closer.

I agree. The offense was stunned without Hill 2 weeks after Bradford…Austin Davis?? Yikes. The team was a bit shell-shocked…
okay..A LOT shell shocked. They just looked so BAD…like they were stunned and disoriented or something.

This team will play better because the talent IS better than it has been in 10 years.
As a Rams fan, I’m too used to these types of letdowns…as I’m sure, most of you guys are too.
However, it’s a long season and it ain’t over til it’s over. 1 win and our hope will spring eternal. I thought Hill played pretty well but looked slow moving around…so the injury makes sense to me. but until that silly INT, Hill was making solid decisions and decent(but underthrown) throws. And did anyone notice? Our WRs caught every ball. iirc
Stacy dropped the one but RBs don’t count.

Quick played great and our DBs played very strong & aggressive(McDonald, MCleod, Joyner, Gaines, Jenks) so that was cool.
Our LBs disappeared and so did our DE contain….that’s what bothered me most besides the horrid OL play.
But, the defense just looked confused and lost…and they were all vets cept for Gaines/Donald/Joyner.
But hey Donald played well and had 4 tackles in limited time. Gaines was in good position most the time and tackled well.

Anyway, a loss. I’m not worried cuz I think Fisher will right the ship.
I do not believe Fisher will let this team be worse than .500….even without a QB.
He’ll do what the always does and get the ship righted like the did last year. We’ll see what these player’s have in their boilers! What they’re made of.

Whatever.
I’ll see ya next Sunday. 😉

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