TYT (The Young Turks for the less internet media savvy, a progressive online news channel that has recently crossed 4 Billion views on YouTube) recently ran a poll for Sanders supporters on their app and in their YouTube video. With over 20,000 responses, the verdict was 17% would vote for Hillary, 83% Never Hillary.

The hosts were shocked at the disparity. They’ve discounted the validity of the “lesser of two evils” argument over and over, but I don’t think they thought their viewers really took it to heart.

Also, a vote for Jill Stein isn’t wasted. If we can get her to 15%, that puts her on the national stage.

When they said “the lesser of two evils” and “hold your nose and vote”,
I don’t think people who casually support Hillary have any idea how bad she is.

She’s Obama without the charm, heart, and humanity and with loads more personal ambition.

I cringe at the thought of that first White House Correspondents Dinner…
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I’ve got some kind of worrisome head cold and I’d rather have that than watch Hillary try to be funny for 15 minutes…

If only his work meant a damn for the Rams.

He’s purely playing for the Rams to recover a draft pick and to play for his next team.

I hope he does well wherever he ends up in a few years. He might be the backup in 2017, but there’s no chance he stays past his initial contract.

Be nice if they developed all of them in case Goff doesn’t work out (like RG3 didn’t work out, although the reasons he didn’t work out almost certainly wouldn’t apply to Goff).

Shrug. Doesn’t matter. Is what it is and it will work out or it won’t and we have a good enough defense and a stud running back that even with spectacularly bad QB play, we’ll still likely win between 6-7 games…

Life goes on…

It’s bullshit. Her emails reveal that she was a major player in negotiating TPP.

She’s a pathological liar.

I read a few tweets, it was a Rams site tweeting. Basically…

“Rams OTA closed to media: Rams offense making forward strides.”

“Rams OTA open to media: Rams offense making backwards strides.”

The gist is that Fisher is engaging in happy talk yet again and when people look for themselves, it’s pretty evident that things clearly song look good.

It’s really early and I surely hope this team gets things turned around, but this isn’t the right way to start…

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Zooey wrote:

wv wrote:

You know, I know zip on this ’email scandal’ thing. Zero. Nada.
I havent read a single solitary word about it.
And i don’t intend to.

I couldn’t care less whether she “committed a crime” or not
by sending or receiving “classified” emails.

I mean to me, the CIA in and of itself is a Crime. The whole entire organization has a long history of assassination, torture, butchery spying on pacifists, derailing democracies, dealing in narcotics…etc, etc, etc. And the FBI aint no better. Or the NSA. All those secret shadow organizations are anti-democratic and rife with corruption.

I dont care what Clinton did with some emails. What Clinton has done that is perfectly LEGAL is what appalls me. Her support of the mega-corpse, neoliberalsim, the big-banks, goldman-sachs…etc. All THAT stuff is enough for me to loathe her. And Obama. And Bush. And all the mainstream Dems and Reps.

I could go on. But i have to plant some milkweed seeds.

wv curmudgeon

I haven’t read much about it until I found this. I knew she had used a private server, and that she deleted 30,000 personal emails, but that’s it.

And I don’t really care about the email issue either because whatever she did is nothing compared to what she plans to do if she is president both domestically and internationally. You know…invading Libya and Iraq is a smidge worse than mishandling classified documents (though she could potentially be blackmailed by nasty people).

The reason I care about the above is that it shows a lot of high up establishment intelligence people are telling Obama that this is really, really bad news, and postponing it, or trying to sweep it under the carpet, could be devastating to her, the party, and the country. To me that means that this scandal is a real scandal – as opposed to so many Clinton scandals over the decades – and I would like to see her destroyed politically. Prison time would be a bonus. And the sooner, the better. That’s why I had interest in it.

I’m a hardware engineer. Part of my job is email admin- I build these machines and configure the client and setup the end users. I can tell you what she did was egregious and illegal. Also, pretty ignorant with a lot of arrogance mixed in. The only reason I can see in maintaining private server is to hide shit. To assume she could do this with no repercussions was arrogant. To assume the box couldn’t be hacked is ignorant. And most likely our adversaries were reading her mail. Also, email is forever. There’s a copy around somewhere, even if she did a DOD format on the drives (it would be at least two).

The part of this I just don’t understand is “why”? Most government – State, Mil, etc- systems are more secure- by light years- than anything a private firm could put together on the fly, which this appears to be. And she used Clinton in the domain name. She could have just used her State account for both personal and private stuff and nobody would be the wiser, and it would have been way more secure. Probably would have violated the user policy in place, but most folks up that high don’t bother with such things.

I’ve had clients who wanted me to do really stupid shit before, but this takes the cake. Arrogance and ignorance. I could cost lives, too.

As a former network and multimedia engineer, yes, you’re right about the server. She violated 18 USC 793 (f) multiple times. That’s a Class A felony and by my count, there’s at least 22 clear violations that were not of the SBU variety.

Anyone else at State with this situation would already be in prison.

As for why, it’s perfectly clear. She wanted to illegally avoid FOIA requests as well as obstruct Congressional Subpoenas. With a private server, Congress couldn’t just compel another agency to hand over her information.

She’s guilty in a prima facie way because Guccifer, the hacker, pled guilty in federal court to hacking her server.

That makes her guilty under the Espionage Act 18 USC 793(f) which covers negligent handling of or improper securing of or allowing sensitive materials to be stolen.

That she had Special Access Program information on that server is unconscionable. That level of information is typically so secret that people have to be “read in” and be granted ultra special access and only for that program. These are typically intelligence programs that can take years to develop, cover the intelligence for a region or a very deep cover mission and the value of these programs rises into the Billions, not to mention the exposure creates existential threats to our national security.

Here’s mine. It’s -8.38, -7.54.

So, other than ozone and bnw and maybe dak, I guess that makes me the Thatcher of the group…LOL.

I’ve come a LOOOOONG way from my initial days of the Herd when I was in the top right quadrant a lil bit…

I’d say I’ve changed, but it’s not so much that as I just finally got right with my principles and core fundamental beliefs in a real way as it relates to all human beings on the planet.

As I had to confront the truths beyond all sorts of borders, I got to where I am today and I’m never going back.

I decided that I’m not only going to vote for Dr Jill Stein, but I’m gonna donate enough to get a t-shirt so I can wear it around town.

Do Greenies make cool Tees? I’ll wear a whack Tee, but it’d obviously be better if it were cooler.

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It’s definitely the Girl Scouts.

My budget, health and stress levels are endangered during cookie season… And just the mention of Thin Mints send me into mini withdrawal.

During sales they are everywhere and they have infiltrated every walk of life.

The NSA wishes it had the Girl Scout network and the Cartels wish they could move as much addictive product.

There was this one summer that the Cicadas were SUPER loud in PA when I spend the summer there.

I mean, I wanted to scream “SHUT THE FUCK UP” loud and I was kinda young. If it was 34 years ago, then I was 13. I thought it was earlier because I didn’t think I spent much time with my dad that summer, but maybe it was 34 years ago.

Is it possible there’s a NY/NJ/Eastern PA grouping that’s on a different cycle?

Also, if you watch Silicon Valley, the show on HBO, they had a thing about Cicada bugs in Season 2.

Btw, as someone who worked for a dot.com, even though I was in SoCal…holy shit. That show…I binge watched all three seasons over two nights and I totally get why so many in Tech watch it and DON’T laugh…they just nod…

I highly recommend it.

Who would have thought so many good ideas would vector from cicadas?

Billy, yes, there wasn’t consensus among the US Generals.

However, the Japanese leadership wasn’t unified. Thus, the thesis of the article isn’t tenable, which is to state unequivocally that the entire Japanese heirarchy wanted to surrender and THEN the US dropped two bombs.

That’s not what happened. The Japanese government wanted to find a way to surrender, but the military refused. The US was NOT going to sign a surrender and then fight guerillas. It demanded unconditional surrender which meant the military had to go along. Period. Prior to the dropping of the first bomb, they weren’t on board.

The military was horrified with the results of the first bomb, but it never occurred to them that we’d ever do it again. And then we did. That second bomb showed the Japanese military that we not only would drop a second bomb, but would continue to drop them until surrender came. The Japanese military knew all was lost after Nagasaki and the unconditional surrender came.

But to conflate “Japanese leadership” prior to the first bomb dropping is just not historically accurate.

Yes, absolutely, prior and after, there were misgivings and outright doubts about the rationales and necessities involved in dropping the bombs.

The American Generals weren’t the only voices involved. The Japanese Generals had something to say about it.

Now, if the Japanese Generals hadn’t been belligerently attached to their “to the last man, woman and child” philosophy and mutinied, trying to kill the Emperor and stage multiple coups, then the whole thing wouldn’t be so complicated.

I’m increasingly impressed with Jacobin. I’m rarely impressed with content these days, but overall, they continue to impress.

I do think the article glosses over the very real logistical nightmare of a Russian invasion and that while the Japanese Prime Minister admitted that there was no viable plan to repel, that wasn’t the end.

As we also know, there was a “to the last man, woman and child” strategy that the Generals wanted to deploy. So deeply were they committed to it that they tried to assassinate the Emperor in order to prevent him from surrendering.

Thus, as in all things, it’s just a lot more complicated than saying the Americans were amoral warmongerers.

The Russians, as we’ve seen with contested islands with Japan to their north, have not and will not give back territory. The only reason Berlin is united and Germany is united is that the Eastern Bloc of the Soviet Union disintegrated, NOT because Russia would ever cede any territory. That’s never going to happen, especially under Putin. Thus, if the Russians had invaded, Japan would have been a partially occupied country that the Russians would still occupy…unrepentantly.

Which puts the dropping of the atomic weapons on morally dubious grounds. Very true. However, it is NOT historically accurate to say that “they were going to surrender, anyway.” That’s just not factually correct.

Moreover, between repeated attempts on the Emperor’s life (at some point if we invaded, the General’s would have likely succeeded), and an imminent Russian invasion, the Japanese were caught in a vice.

The Russians WERE coming and they wanted to invade in the worst way. The Japanese government DID want to surrender. That much is true. The Japanese military DID NOT want to surrender and the militaristic society that had been fostered such that it bred officers that allowed the Rape of Nanking were not only not going to surrender, but they were going to spend every last Japanese person in defense of the homeland if that’s what it took. Any conqueror would just take the land, but no Japanese would be left to be a conquered people.

Are the estimates of Allied losses in an invasion of the Japanese homeland understated? It’s hard to say because the Japanese were fierce fighters the closer the Allies got to the Japanese homeland. Iwo Jima was a great example of this.

Anyway, the Americans also realized that they needed to shock the Japanese so much that they needed to obliterate aspects of a culture.

Yes, the firebombing of Tokyo killed more people than the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. That’s lost on people who don’t take the time to learn. However, the very nature of HOW people died due to the atomic bombings was so horrific (as if dying in a fire wasn’t bad enough), that even the Generals realized that any resistance was futile.

The Russians didn’t invade. The Japanese were allowed to save face (they literally had no other choice). The Americans didn’t have to invade.

Only because it prevented what would have amounted to Japanese mass suicide and a Russian invasion that would still be causing geopolitical issues today do I say that it was the best of all the bad options.

That didn’t make it a good, right or moral option and I agree with the author on a fair number of points.

But to leave out pertinent history means not telling the story properly and that means not really telling the story at all in this case.

FYI, there’s a youtube channel called “liberal redneck”. It’s really something…funny and enlightening, challenging and thought provoking, the author of the channel (or whatever you call the content creator) embraces being a redneck AND being liberal and challenges the notion that one excludes the other.

I think the grad student is dead on about her critique.

The DLC’s embrace of the professional class has only FURTHERED neoliberalism which had been the sole domain of the Republican “trickle down” crowd since Reagan got elected.

With both Clinton’s not just embrace of the professional class, but the embrace of the professional class to the exclusion of the working class, it allowed the DLC to fashion a message that co-opted the Republican financial message with social moderation. Basically, they could be Republicans that weren’t openly racist, antagonistic assholes. They didn’t engage in openly hostile dog whistle politics. They nominally tried to fix social problems, etc. People could get dirty stinking rich AND feel good about helping brown people…over there…somewhere.

It became de rigueur to play politics with social and financial policies without taking into account the consequences.

I came up with a quote for that (I do have the time for such contemplations…)

Politics is pornography for polite society. It is the observation, embrace, acceptance and engagement in social intercourse and/or engagement of governmental processes regarding the non-consensual violation of the people for the express purpose of self-gratification.”
William Keyser

When policy makers engage in politics, we truly see obscenity displayed before the masses.

No three way or German fetish was more obscene than a white man in bad suit giving an uninspired speech enumerating badly articulated and poorly thought out reasons as to why a program that actually helps people in need should be cut, leading to a direct increase in children going hungry or a direct increase in women being exposed to harm or a direct increase in veterans going homeless or direct increase in Active Duty Service Members’ deployment length…

The DLC Dems who made the “compromise” seem fucking incredulous that young people see the hypocrisy and obscenity of what they’re continuing to propose.

At least the Republicans are only proposing obscenity. And even if the obscenity is worse, for some, that’s the difference. There’s such an aversion to hypocrisy that they’d rather choose extra obscenity than be part of any hypocrisy.

Worse, the Clinton campaign is in full attack mode online for anyone who has issues with her obscene policies.

In word and deed, it’s tribal, traditional “party first” politics where policies are secondary (if they rank that high). So, when someone points out to the Clinton Campaign that their policies are harmful, truly harmful…the reaction is visceral, defensive and feral. And it’s not on policy. They don’t defend the policy. It’s all about fearmongering about a Trump Presidency and about how everyone needs to get in line.

Which is kind of funny because the criticism all along is that DLC Dems are Republican lite and Bill Clinton’s own quote is “Democrats want to fall in love. Republicans want to fall in line.” The Clinton Campaign is desperately making the argument that Dems need to fall in line and are making NO arguments about falling in love. Compounding that dilemma for them is that Bernie Sanders has said that he’ll be “against Trump”, but if Clinton wants to WIN his supporters, she’ll have to earn them herself using…POLICY. Which has them freaking out because all along the Clinton and surrogates online have promoted the idea that “to the victor go the spoils”. Actually, they’ve used those exact words so often that it looks coordinated as if through Correct the Record as if it’s a building meme with Clinton supporters.

This whole thing is looking to become a steaming pile of clusterfuck and anyone’s who’s either in the bottom 80%, of color or disadvantaged or serves their country is going to get completely shit on no matter who gets in. The only difference will be where the shit meteor hits.

So, in that vein, I can see why some folks would want to be further away from ground zero from the massive shit meteor strike, but it’s still going to be catastrophic for nearly everyone…

Saying Hillary Clinton is the “lesser of two evils” is overstating it. Different evil, maybe. Lesser? Tell that to the families who lose loved ones in the military due to her sending troops to Libya or back to Iraq or staying in Afghanistan or who continue to lose jobs due to manufacturing jobs going overseas. Lesser of two evils is a false narrative. In order to believe that you have to diminish the power of flag draped coffins and why we have them.

Due to the lesion in my brain, I have migraines every day. Some last a few hours. Longest lasted 12 weeks.

Super long story short: yes, look for triggers.

1) HYDRATION. It’s amazing how often people’s migraines are triggered by dehydration.

2) FOOD. Dairy. Caffeine (it’s in everything including soda, candy and even shower gel). Nuts. Chocolate. Gluten. NITRATES/NITRITES (cured meats like ham, any kind of sausage and hot dogs wreck me). Phenalalanine (artificial sweetener Aspartame in every gum, tons of diet sodas and “sugar free” foods and tons of other stuff. DEFINITE KNOWN MIGRAINE TRIGGER). And that’s just a primer, not a comprehensive list. As much as I hate keeping logs, it’s important to keep a log of everything that is consumed down to the last chip is known.

3) MIGRAINE LOG. Lord this one hurts to write because it means having to be present in the middle of the pain. Imagine having to describe your nausea while wretching. It’s like that with a migraine. But it’s crucial! The doctors need to know if there are any auditory issues (I have tinnitus), visual issues (I have super bad vertigo and some migraines cause me to mostly lose vision in one eye) as well as specifically the type of pain: exactly where, when, for how long and what type.

I’ve had sharp pains so intense they felt exactly like being hit in the head with a baseball bat and I actually thought that’s what happened…or something akin to that as I fell to the ground. I’ve had dull, throbbing pains, burning pains, aches…

A person new to the sensation won’t have the vocabulary to describe it even if they know every word in the English language. It unfortunately takes time.

3b) As part of the Migraine Log, if she’s menstruating, she’ll want to keep very good track of her cycle. Many women with migraines have found a hormonal component and, thus the migraines synch with various times of a woman’s cycle. It’s not the same for all women, either.

As far as advice…

Have her sleep hygiene be as pristine as possible. She can google sleep hygiene. Cool room, no phone before bed, stuff like that.

ALWAYS WEAR SUNGLASSES OUTSIDE! for those who can vascularly trigger, very bright light can be a trigger. Also stay away from strobing lights.

Look for a good migraine group online. They are always going and knowing that one is not alone and personally getting to read about how others cope can really help. Family and friends may have no way to relate. As well, it may help her to build a vocabulary more quickly to describe what is happening with her body. I know it took me years to describe that my migraines affected my entire spine. I just didn’t know how to describe it.

As for medications, normally a triptan is recommended. I was on Sumatriptan, but the doc will pick which is best. They can come oral, injected or nasal. They might have patches now, but I dunno. Oral is for occasional migraines. They take 20+ mins to get into the system, which is why the headache log is crucial. Injected usually is only given at the ER. The nasal version was the only version that worked for me as it absorbs straight into the bloodstream through the nasal membrane and relief was super fast. It didn’t end the migraine, but took the piss out of it. That said, the taste of the back drip was enough to gag a maggot. So not kidding.

Of course, they offer opioid pain relief even to kids, usually codeine, although by 15, they may graduate to Percocet. I’ve had to be on many of them for short stints and that one was the worst. My stance as always is no to opioids, find ANY other way.

Sorry if that’s too much to start. Ask me anything. I’m glad to share anything I’ve learned.

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Well, it begs the question, who does the dirty jobs? who does the dangerous jobs? who does the thankless jobs?

Yes, in ANY system, there are just really SHIT jobs, some literally, some figuratively. Not everyone will be able to just grab a guitar and do bad Stairway to Heaven remixes and say, “I’m working”. Will the collective be able to FORCE someone to work?

If not, does that just mean there will be job postings and people just have to fill in where needed? Lemme just say, that will suck really fast because there’s no growth in that. No personal growth, no learning.

I really can’t stress this enough. ANY system has to get over the “I have no fucks to give” threshold. Capitalism is brutally honest about how it does it. It uses a medium of exchange. It doesn’t require you to give any fucks. You give bucks. Don’t have any bucks, you get nothing.

However, in any co-op, that requires some kind of buy-in on SOME level. It REQUIRES participation and investment. Well, how does one solve the conundrum when people are NOT moved by the “local” ideology. Sometimes local groups aren’t a great fit. Is travel free? Is information free? Can a person find a fit with zero or near zero discomfort and displacement? If not, then there will be tremendous tension. Group dynamics are MASSIVE and they matter.

Flat organizations are great until that one alpha male or alpha female asshole picks up his or her head.

Flat organizations are fine with strong individuals who don’t want to be ruled and feel comfortable with sharing responsibility. Not everyone fits that personality type. Some are Alpha types who will constantly try to be “in charge”. Others (a “beta” if you will, will constantly try to shrink into the background. It is no more appropriate for the Alpha to be allowed to be in charge in a flat org than to force the Beta to be in charge who is unprepared or ill-equipped.

Aldous Huxley addressed this in Brave New World, iirc.