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joemadParticipantSteve Young is on weekly on local sports talk and has expressed CK’s pocket passing limitations… I wonder why he never offered to help CK. …..
too bad Kurt couldn’t help Austin Davis…….. but I guess that’s what team QB coaches are for.
January 5, 2015 at 1:22 pm in reply to: according to you what are the best & worst games of 2014 #15555joemadParticipantThree best:
Wins against Seattle and Denver and in SF. Sacking CK so much helped the SF game get on that list. Worst losses: Dallas, KC, SD. All for different reasons. The Dallas game, gave it away. The KC game, I thought the Davis experiment was over but they seemed to stick with it. SD, because they could have had it but whiffed. </P>Wins vs Seattle, Denver and SF.
Worst, Vikings, KC, and AZ games.
joemadParticipantI don’t recall ever seeing a ref announce a penalty on his microphone, then huddle with his refs to pick up the flag…..
huge play in that game.
joemadParticipantKroenke hasn’t received any authority from NFL owners to move his team, and he’s already planning to build a stadium there. Hmm. It sure looks like he’s paving the way to move to L.A. Is the NFL OK with that type of maneuvering without formal approval? Or, has he received some back channel support for his development/stadium?
Interesting note: The report says there are no tax dollars needed. We all know that Kroenke could build something in St. Louis with no tax support, too, if he so wished. And, yet, Kroenke has made no moves to create a similar development in STL.
So. I think no matter what happens, I’d say we can see that Stan’s has plans for L.A., and none for St. Louis, yet.Help me understand. I’m just curious…..
1) Did STL ask the NFL for authority to build the TWA Dome to lure an NFL team?
2) Did STL, which was overlooked for expansion by the NFL , upset the NFL by proceeding to build a stadium without a team?I think Stan will get the support from the NFL and NFL owners for obvious reasons.
1) The fan support has not been in STL to put people in the seats in recent seasons.
2) You’re moving an NFL team from the 22nd market to the 2nd largest market, that will put money in all the owner’s pockets.
2a) In 2012 Time Magazine ranked The Dome as the 7th worst major sports stadium in the USA
2c) In 2008 SI ranked the Dome as the worst NFL with particularly low marks for tailgating, affordability and atmosphere. This is ranked below 50 year old dinosaurs like Candlestick and Oakland Co.
3) The NFL and the TV networks want a team in LA.BTW, I have a friend at work that has a connection with the Walmart empire. He told me months ago that the move to LA was a done deal. It was just a matter of finding additional parking lots when Stan bought the initial 60 acres of land in So Cal.. I think this is it.
December 29, 2014 at 11:20 am in reply to: Russ Lande explains why cutting ties with Bradford is best option for Rams #14907joemadParticipantwhat QB out there is a better option that Bradford? Sorry, but Andrew Luck is not available.
Ryan, Kapernick, Brees, Rivers, Sanchez, Cutler, Smith, are not playing next week.
1) there are no playoff guarantees with high profile QBs.
BTW, all these guys, with exception of Kapernick, have a history of injury.
2) more often than not, QBs get hurt.
If you bail on Bradford, another QB is just as likely to get hurt.
December 29, 2014 at 11:12 am in reply to: Yep, about what I expected: Seattle game reactions #14906joemadParticipantyou can blame Cunningham on the fumble.
Hill’s int was a bozo mistake…
We’ve seen Cook do that before
but it was good to see the Rams battle in this game. Seattle was playing to win that game in one of the toughest places to play an win and the RAMS battled the full game.
it was a shame that Cunningham’s fumble happened. it would’ve been fun to see the last 5 minutes of the game
December 21, 2014 at 11:57 am in reply to: What's your "bet"? (feeling) (analysis)–Rams beat Giants? #14391joemadParticipantI can’t believe you guys are forcing me to post this, but…
I agree with Mac’s and Winnbrad’s post.
Heavy dose of Tre today against 26st ranked D
December 20, 2014 at 8:57 pm in reply to: Dick Enberg! I grew up in LA listening to this man call Rams games on the Radio #14330December 20, 2014 at 8:40 pm in reply to: Breer predicting Cutler to Rams…others say, no it's to the Titans #14329joemadParticipantCutler is simply not a winner.
I agree with Jack P Miller, I think to Tampa with Lovie.
“””””Under Cutler in 2011, the Bears went 7–3, and were on the verge of a playoff berth. Offensive coordinator Mike Martz was commonly criticized for aggressive play-calling in 2011, and the calls for a pass-happy offense led to Cutler getting repeatedly sacked, including an incident in Week 2 against the New Orleans Saints, in which Cutler was sacked 6 times, and was also kicked in the throat.[83] The issue caused Cutler to say to Martz, “Tell him I said fuck him!” in a game against the Minnesota Vikings.[84″””””””
joemadParticipantMac, help me understand, what am I missing here on the priviat funding of the stadium be built specifically Levi Stadium because my homies in the SC City council are taking a ton of grief for the stadium funding….yet you’re stating this was privately funded……..
Financing and construction[edit]
In December 2011, the Santa Clara City Council voted for an agreement that calls for the city’s Stadium Authority to borrow $850,000,000 from Goldman Sachs, Bank of America and U.S. Bank. This will cover most of the construction costs, with the remainder to be made up via funding from the NFL, a hotel tax and city redevelopment funds. Interest, fees and terms for this loan have not been disclosed.[53][54] The $850,000,000 building loan, plus interest and fees will be assumed by the City’s Stadium Authority, where additional interest and fees will be applied. On February 2, 2012, NFL owners approved a loan to the 49ers of $200,000,000, for use in constructing the new stadium, and to be taken from a new G-4 stadium loan fund.[55] Terms of the loan were not specified, but under the previous G-3 plan, money was repaid directly into the league’s account from the borrowing team’s share of gate receipts from road games.
joemadParticipantjoemad wrote:
you need a special guy to be QB in the NFL, not only in talent, but a guy that will put in the work to study, game plan to succeed.
Brady, Rodgers, Luck, Russell Wilson, Flacco, etc…..guys that have established great study and work habits to prep well to pick up the complexities of the game.
Very few can rely on raw talent, maybe Brett Farve, but to be great, you need talent and the will to have a strong smart work ethic.
Do you think this Winston kid has these habits established?One of the things i started noticing about five or ten years ago or so,;was that the tv-celebrity-experts started talking a lot aboutpotential QB-draft-choices being “the face of the franchise” —meaning that the QB had to represent the corporate ‘brand’in a certain way. I’m not saying thats good or bad,just saying there was a change at some point in the NFL.I doubt tv-celebrity-experts were saying things like“Billy Kilmer needs to be the face of the franchise”.
wvI think it changed when QBs stopped wearing the single bar face-mask…. (just kidding)
good GMs / coaches or great franchises won’t buy or fall for the hype.
Look an Manziel. that guy was dropping like a rock in the draft, then he calls the Browns and begs to be picked, and they did….. That’s why the Browns sucked for so long, their GM, Owner or whoever picked him based on a phone call. I don’t think the Pats or perennial winner would do that.
I blame Melvin K.
While general manager of the Indianapolis Colts, Tobin gained some notoriety during the television broadcast of the 1994 NFL Draft after being criticized by ESPN analyst Mel Kiper for picking Nebraska linebacker Trev Alberts with the fifth pick in the draft, instead of Fresno State quarterback Trent Dilfer.
While being interviewed by ESPN later in the broadcast, Tobin famously said “Who the hell is Mel Kiper?!”[1] Tobin later called a press conference where he ranted about Kiper for several minutes, stating that Kiper had been biased against the Colts ever since they moved from Baltimore, Kiper’s home
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joemadParticipantjust like Grits is brining up the 2nd largest market, you keep playing the abandoned city card. That happened in STL.
Yes, STL did build a stadium to lure a team, but the problem was/is, the stadium was outdated before it was even completed. There was nothing state of the art from the TWA dome.
Georgia left for a short term pay day…… We all knew that the team would be devalued for leaving to a much smaller market… Georgia got her payday from STL.
Business is profit, if you’re not making an optimal profit, you’re not in business. Selling tix for 8 bucks to see an NFL game is not a sustainable business model.. I can’t even get to see a High School game for $8.00.
joemadParticipantyou need a special guy to be QB in the NFL, not only in talent, but a guy that will put in the work to study, game plan to succeed.
Brady, Rodgers, Luck, Russell Wilson, Flacco, etc…..guys that have established great study and work habits to prep well to pick up the complexities of the game.
Very few can rely on raw talent, maybe Brett Farve, but to be great, you need talent and the will to have a strong smart work ethic.
Do you think this Winston kid has these habits established?
joemadParticipantSt. Louis fans have suffered more than any other fans for more than a decade and at one stretch set the NFL record for futility over a three year period. When a decent product was put on the field the dome was sold out. Lately it could be St. Louis fans are tapped out from buying St. Louis Cardinals playoff tickets to watch the unbeatable LA Dodgers get beat again. What owners are going to give up huge franchise fees or the leverage on stadium upgrades an unnecessary existing franchise move to the LA market would deny? Why do you think LA deserves an existing NFL franchise after losing two NFL franchises in a years time while the NFL has continued to reap record profits in the 20 years since it left LA? Sorry the second largest media market excuse doesn’t fly since the NFL hasn’t lost money since LA was abandoned.
1) STL also lost a franchise and was overlooked for expansion when Jax was awarded a team.
2) you need to consider the ownership of the NFL teams that left LA… The Controversial Al Davis, who left Oakland when the Raiders had no attendance issues and he left LA back to Oakland on whim… More importantly, Georgia was the ownership team that left when John Shaw found a loop hole in Anaheim to leave So. Cal. when the local hockey team built the stadium.Gotta agree with GRITS,
1) Stan is the most powerful owner in pro sports, owns a professional Soccer team in the Premier League, and an NBA team and each case he owns the land for each of his teams, with exception of the RAMS
2) He bought 60 acres of land in LA
3) Hired a coach that also oversaw a move from Houston to Tenn.
3a) When Fisher was hired, Fisher asked for no move guarantee clause for the RAMS, Stan denied that clause.Per GRITS points, i’m not sure that the most powerful owner in professional sports wants to own the least valued NFL franchise. Winning seasons in STL will not cure that, but location and branding will.
December 18, 2014 at 2:42 pm in reply to: "I've had the chance to talk with Bruce, Faulk, Slater, Kennison, etc." #14170joemadParticipant. I was at the Raiders Rams game where the crowd was heckling Banks and he was going to confront the crowd and Vermeil literally grabbed him and yanked him back to the sidelines. A lady in the crowd flashed him her T@@Ts.
I was at this game and saw this happen… my brother and I went to this game on the spur of the moment; we bought scalped tix and ended up squatting on some great seats…… …….behind the RAMS bench near Bern Brostek’s family from Hawaii….. I remember they told us he was going to retire….
late hit on Jeff George, (I think by Zgonina) was the turning point of that game. Jesse Hester had a huge drop late in the 3rd…..
it’s funny I can’t remember shit, but I can remember almost every event at almost every RAMS game I’ve attended or watched.
BTW the football stadium in Oakland is not a bad place to watch a game, but their fans are a bit crazy.
December 18, 2014 at 1:00 pm in reply to: Throwback Thursday 1983 Mike Lansford beats the Saints Rams make playoffs #14166joemadParticipantI can’t believe that was 31 years ago. I remember pacing in my folk’s living room watching this final Rams drive.
Lansford was clutch…… Loved those Rams teams.
December 18, 2014 at 12:54 pm in reply to: Throwback Thursday Flipper Anderson catches winning TD vs Giants in the playoff #14165joemadParticipantvery questionable PI call before Flipper’s run into the tunnel……..Zampese had to balls to go for the kill right away in OT
That game was their last playoff win in Los Angeles. Ram defense played the Giants tough that day.
Those 1980’s teams were fun to watch, I was a very passionate fan of those John Robinson Ram teams.
December 18, 2014 at 12:32 pm in reply to: What kind of food you setting up for tonight's Titans/Jaguars game? #14161joemadParticipantI cooked a bunch of spaghetti, coated with olive oil, and put it in the fridge. It will be regular spaghetti, or a sort of lasagna, or heated up with butter, or fried spaghetti.Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever weighted their spaghetti? I get 40oz. of cooked spaghetti from 16oz. of dry spaghetti.
That is one good looking leaf of parsley on that plate.
joemadParticipantAnd Lawrence Phillips’ missed block ended Steve Young’s career. Even though LP wasn’t a Ram anymore, I still like to think they played a minor role in that.
and it was Aeneas Williams to deliver the knock out blow……
December 17, 2014 at 12:40 pm in reply to: Which game is more important to you to win? Giants or Seahawks? #14061joemadParticipantI don’t think that it’s too greedy to ask for 2 wins to end the season.
joemadParticipantWeek 1 — Rams at Broncos: Trailing the Broncos 16-13 in the third quarter with the ball on Denver’s 9-yard line, the Rams went for it on 4th-and-1. Kurt Warner’s pass was incomplete and the Rams ended up losing their opener 23-16. “We will be aggressive in our approach,” Rams coach Mike Martz said. “Some may question it, but that’s how I’m going to approach it.”
Week 2 — Giants at Rams: Facing fourth-and-inches with 2:53 left in the game, the Rams trailed the Cowboys 26-21. Despite the absence of starting left guard Tom Nutten, the Rams ran Marshall Faulk straight up the middle and he was stuffed for no gain before fumbling. The Rams did get the ball back but ended up losing 26-21.
Fucking Martz……. The Denver game was a killer, put the friggen points on the board when you’re on the road….
but last week, I think Fisher has to go for it on 4th and 1 on the goal line vs Arizona…….
joemadParticipantdon’t forget they KO’d Alex Smith……
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December 15, 2014 at 4:44 pm in reply to: qbs who have started for the Rams since the 1995 move #13928joemadParticipantthey should’ve kept Chris Chandler over Chris Miller…….., but Miller did start off on fire in STL.
damn, time flies,…
joemadParticipantRM thanks for setting it up.
Do the current standings include my week 11 picks?
joemadParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>joemad wrote:</div>
the back breaker was not scoring the TD when they had 1st and goal in the 4th….The third down call, and the decision
to kick a FG on 4th down were interesting to me.
It kinda showed that Fisher had just given up
on the idea of pounding the ball into the endzone
against that Cardinal front seven. Even
Fisher didnt believe they could beat that
Cardinal front with ram-power.That sez somethin about the Ram OLine,
maybe.w
vI understood why Fisher didn’t go for it on 4th and 1, but I was surprised he didn’t go for it.
What have you got to lose at this point in the season?
Had they scored 7 it would be easier to game plan for a 60 yarder for Zerlein. If the Rams get stuffed, they have the Cards pinned.
The Rams ended up getting the ball back twice anyway.
joemadParticipantFoles is China doll too, isn’t he hurt?
All QBs get hurt, look at Arizona, down to #3, their biggest success was based on Palmer and Warner who also had a histories of injury.
Bottom line, most QB’s get hurt …… while very very few rookies succeed.
Keep Bradford…. he is your best choice at this point.
For every Andrew Luck picked, there’s 10 Joey Harringtons or Gio Carmazzis.
QBs picks since 2000.
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4 115 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma Pittsburgh Steelers
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5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State New York Giants
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6 178 Mike Teel QB Rutgers Seattle Seahawks
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3 90 Matt Schaub QB Virginia Atlanta Falcons
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7 234 Joe Hamilton QB Georgia Tech Tampa Bay BuccaneersjoemadParticipantI thought the O-line for the Cardinals did enough to open some holes for their RB and did a good job picking up the blitz.
I thought the opposite of the Rams’ O-line. Hill didn’t have a lot of time to set up and find open receivers, and I don’t know if there were a lot of open receivers. Arizona’s blueprint of hitting the QB all game and winning in the 4th quarter worked again. That bad pass to Bailey that could have gotten the Rams into Cardinals’ territory was a result of a game of pressure and hits … when he had a chance to finally burn Arizona, he threw the ball quickly and was inaccurate enough that Bailey couldn’t pull in the pass.
The defense was fine. I’ll take 12 points every time, especially when they were put in some very tough situations by the offense and had to be on the field so much.
you nailed it. Rams didn’t run block well….and the Cards did…
this allowed the Cards to run a balanced offensive attack.
the back breaker was not scoring the TD when they had 1st and goal in the 4th….
Next year, with Bradford and Quick, with this existing D, the Rams will be a force to be reckoned with.
joemadParticipantI have a buddy that has press passes to cover all bay area teams.
we talk at the water cooler almost everyday about local sports especially football.
1) he told me that Shawn Hill should have been starting sooner, but understands why Fisher didn’t replace Davis sooner at QB.. when Hill was with SF, his knock was he performed poorly in practice, but played better in games especially in the h4th qtr… except in San Diego!!!!
2) he loves the Ram defense, he told me “the RAMS are the best team in the NFC west right now” I guess we’ll see tonight against AZ>
also, several of my SF and Raider fan buddies, that I can sometimes rationalize with also love the RAM D… some of these guys have them as their fantasy defense….
It’s funny, sometimes i’m to blame when the RAMS suck for their fantasy team…….. “Your fucking RAMS jacked me up this week Joe!” but that hasn’t been the case lately…
BTW, not much love for Kapernick these days……..they’re getting sick of him real fast.
joemadParticipantRams defense was great back then, very underrated.
They pitched at least 1 shut out every year from 1973 to 1979.
1973 2 shut outs
1974 2 shut outs
1975 1 shut out
1976 1 shut out
1977 3 shut outs
1978 1 shut out
1979 3 shut outs, the 3rd in the NFC Championship game.they didn’t hold anyone scoreless again until 1985, when they did it twice, to KC and Dallas, unfortunately they got skunked against the Bears in the NFC Championship.
joemadParticipant<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wv wrote:</div>
“..Titans turned that trick…as did the two best defenses of the last 45 years, the 1985 Bears and the 2000 Ravens. Notably the two teams to record THREE straight shutouts are the 1970 St. Louis Cardinals and the 1976 Pittsburgh Steelers. This defense appears to have turned the corner toward living up to its hype….”The Cardinals
had a great Defense??I dont remember that.
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vI don’t either. But statistical anomalies happen. And it was a low-scoring era.
I saw on the list of back-to-back shutouts the 1974 49ers, and that caught my eye because my memory is that the 49ers were not a good football team in the 70s. I looked them up, and they finished 6-8 in 1974. That isn’t the 76 Steelers.
But then…neither are the 14 Rams.
I look up the 74 season…
RAMS pitched 2 shuts that year, vs Saints and Falcons, (not back-to-back)
SF, pitched back-to-back shut outs to Bears and Falcons that year, ironically, SF was shut out the following week 7-0 in Cleveland. 7 points allowed over 3 games is not bad.
SF’s defense was getting old but were decent back then…. also, they needed a QB to replace Brodie…..didn’t happen until Montana got there in 79.
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