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joemadParticipantis this freaking serious? Evidence in preseason game ONE???? REALLY??????
Well, if it matters that much to you.
The last time that the Rams faced the Raiders to open up preseason and allowed 18 points, they won the Super Bowl.
August 17, 2015 at 10:12 pm in reply to: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Sex Education & televangelists #28854joemadParticipantthis week John Oliver ripped televangelists and “seed money”…… he was fucking great…..
joemadParticipantI like LA’s take on this,
Jeff Fisher was DC for Ryan in Philly, John Robinson later hired him to replace Frtitz Shurmer
Randall Cunningham led the 89 team in rushing….Keith Byars was # 3 in rushing… For 5 Eagles Trivia points… Who was #2 in rushing for Philly in 1989?
one of my favorite Ram playoff games…nobody but John Madden gave his childhood friend (John Robinson) the Rams a chance to win this game.
From wiki:
The Los Angeles Rams, ignoring the weather, the fans, and the Eagles mighty defense, rode a quick start to defeat the Eagles at Veterans Stadium, 21–7 on New Year’s Eve, 1989. The Eagles came into their first home playoff game in 8 seasons against the Los Angeles Rams with injury concerns. Several players came limping into the game, but perhaps the most concerning injury was that of Eric Allen, whose ankle had been injured a few weeks prior. Allen was an outstanding cover corner and without him, the Eagles would be forced to start reserve cornerback Izel Jenkins. The Rams at the time had a potent and versatile offense, especially in the passing game. Quarterback Jim Everett, running back Greg Bell and wideouts Henry Ellard and Willie “Flipper” Anderson rounded out the Rams offense. However, none of this seemed to concern head coach Buddy Ryan, who reportedly was asked the week leading up the game his impression of Rams running back Greg Bell. Ryan gave a curious vanilla answer to the reporter then turned and walked away saying, “Greg Bell my ass.” Most of the media that had gathered exploded in laughter.
Eric Allen, as it turned out, did not start the game, which was played on an overcast, drizzly New Year’s Eve. The Rams immediantly attacked Allen’s replacement, cornerback Izel Jenkins. Jenkins was burned on the Rams first touchdown; a 39-yard touchdown pass from Jim Everett to Henry Ellard on the Rams first possession. Jenkins was again burned for another long pass, this time to Willie Anderson and by midway through the second quarter, head coach Buddy Ryan had all but no choice to insert the limping Allen with the Rams already leading 14–0.
The Eagles offense, led by All-Pro quarterback Randall Cunningham had no answers for a unique zone implemented by Rams defensive coordinator Fritz Shurmer, who at times during the game only rushed two defenders and dropped everything back in coverage. Cunningham, while completing 24 of 40 pass, only threw underneath the zone for the majority of the game and simply was unable to get anything downfield. It certainly did not help matters not having All-Pro receiver Mike Quick unable to play due to a season-ending injury earlier in the year. The Eagles had less than 100 yards of offense at halftime, and did not have a single first down till midway through the second quarter. The Eagles first four possessions where three (3) three and outs and an interception. When the Eagles finally did score on a one-yard Anthony Toney touchdown plunge to make the game 14–7 with just under 11 minutes to go, there was hope. The Eagles defense, after their shaky start, had by and large held the Rams in check. Indeed, after the Eagles only touchdown of the afternoon, the Eagles defense held the Rams twice and gave the Eagles good field position on their next two possessions, which began at their own 31- and 40-yard lines. However, the Eagles would manage just one first down on those two possessions.
The Rams finally put the nail in the coffin with just under three minutes left, when Greg Bell ran for a 7-yard touchdown for the final score of 21–7. This touchdown run came a few plays after Bell ran 54 yards down to the 10-yard line. The Eagles defense, especially the front four, had finally collapsed after keeping the Rams in check for so long during the game.
After the game, Eagles quarterback Randall Cunningham admitted that he was confused by the Rams complex zone and stated he had never seen anything like it on film. He also pointed the need for the Eagles to acquire some speed in the wide receiving department. The fans, who did not have a beer to cry in during the game due to the Eagles banning beer sales earlier in the year due to “Bounty Bowl II”, were frustrated, wet and as gloomy as the weather leaving the stadium. The Eagles were expected to take a step forward after the previous years’ loss to the Chicago Bears in the “Fog Bowl”, but once again were bounced out in the first round.
joemadParticipantJoe Hill:
In 1914, John G. Morrison, a Salt Lake City area grocer and former policeman, and his son were shot and killed by two men.[6] The same evening, Hill arrived at a doctor’s office with a gunshot wound, and briefly mentioned a fight over a woman. Yet Hill refused to explain further, even after he was accused of the grocery store murders on the basis of his injury. Hill was convicted of the murders in a controversial trial. Following an unsuccessful appeal, political debates, and international calls for clemency from high-profile figures and workers’ organizations, Hill was executed in November, 1915. After his death, he was memorialized by several folk songs. His life and death have inspired books and poetry.
The identity of the woman and the rival who supposedly caused Hill’s injury, though frequently speculated upon, remained mostly conjecture for nearly a century. William M. Adler’s 2011 biography reveals new information about Hill’s ostensible alibi, which was never introduced at his trial.[7] According to Adler, Hill and his friend and countryman, Otto Appelquist, were rivals for the attention of 20-year-old Hilda Erickson, a member of the family with whom the two men were lodging. In a recently discovered letter, Erickson confirmed her relationship with the two men and the rivalry between them. The letter indicates that when she first discovered Hill was injured, he explained to her that Appelquist had shot him, apparently out of jealousy
July 29, 2015 at 6:00 pm in reply to: Mikes Sando: ranking qbs, including the long version ranking all major starters #27738joemadParticipantWhat, No Mannion????? very interesting read…. sad to see Foles (and Bradford) ranked so low, only ranked above rookies, greenhorns and marginal journeyman.
I think Joe Flacco, Eli Manning, and Carson Palmer are very underrated on this list….
They kind of bash Russell Wilson as a product of the system in Seattle, but most QBs are a product of their “system”.
Curious to see how the Rookies (Mariotta and Winston) and young QBs do this season (David Carr)
Top 3 QBs on this list, (Rodgers, Brady and Luck) all have SF Bay Area roots…..
Can’t wait until football starts…..
speaking of Eli Manning, he’s no Rob Lowe, but still a pretty good commercial, much better than Tony Romo’s DTV pitch……
joemadParticipantHappy Birthday Winnbrad!!!
July 27, 2015 at 3:21 pm in reply to: ST coach Fassel helped save man drowning in the Pacific Ocean last week #27636joemadParticipanthave you ever been caught in a tide? I had a very tough time once swimming back to shore in Panama Beach Fl……. not a fun experience, remain calm if and when that happens…….I start breathing deeply just thinking about it….
anyway, Manhattan Beach is only 8 miles from Inglewood, I wonder if this guy was checking out the new digs…..
joemadParticipantI saw this last night…
this guy’s show in general is underrated… it’s a very good show, ……….but he didn’t mention that Kroenke was financing his own stadium in LA.
anyway, the last segment was funny, I couldn’t help but chuckle when I saw the Ram fans with the Bradford shirt…….
joemadParticipantLight firecracker and get away. Too complicated for some people.
I think it was a bit stronger than a firecracker. But you’re correct, light fuse and get away,
joemadParticipantColon cancer….
He was a great Raider.
June 26, 2015 at 5:47 pm in reply to: Wagoner & others: Is Nick Foles the answer at QB for Rams? #26791joemadParticipantI only seen Foles twice last season vs the Rams and vs SF.
the game against the Rams where the Rams gift wrapped the game to Philly in the 1st half, which made Foles look great in the 1st half, but then Foles looked not so good in the 2nd half.
The SF game, Philly and Foles looked like crap.
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joemadParticipantZN, I’m sorry to hear. My thoughts are with you and your family.
Your niece’s reflection is beautifully written. Thank you for sharing.
June 25, 2015 at 4:56 pm in reply to: If Fisher does not top 9-7 this year, does SK fire him? #26751joemadParticipantI think Kroenke keeps Fisher for awhile…. he kept George Karl as coach of the Denver Nuggets for 9 years before finally canning him last season, this after round 1 playoff exits for 8 of Karl’s 9 seasons in Denver…….
also, as majority owner of the Premier League’s Aresenal team, the manager has been in place since 1996.
I think Sam likes continuity
joemadParticipantlike Colin Cowherd said on his radio show this week. “Its’ tough to win an argument against a smart person…it’s even harder to win an argument against a dumb person”.
Even with these facts, it’s to tough to reason with some people… some people just “filter” “over generalize” and “polarize” the thought process……
joemadParticipantthat’s a good concise read…..I see some of these all the time…… as most of you know, I’ve been managing youth baseball and other organizations for several years ……..this in alignment with stuff I’ve read from John Wooden, Walsh, Belichick etc…..
the 15 categories are also in alignment to Dave Packard’s (HP) “11 simple rules” that I have glued on my practice plans and clip board to remind me as I too fall into some of these 15 categories mentioned above….. …….
Dave Packard’s “11 simple rules”
1) First Think of the other person
2) Reinforce the other person’s individuality
3) Respect the other person’s individuality
4) Offer sincere recognition
5) Eliminate anything negative
6) Avoid any attempt to change people
7) Try to understand the other person
8) Check your first impressions
9) Take care of the small details
10) Develop a genuine interest in people
11) PerseverejoemadParticipantAny stories from that? Just curious.
OK, I worked at the SCU cafeteria from HS and during my college years as one of my part time jobs……. it was one of best jobs a HS kid could have. I started off as a busboy, then beverage runner, dishwasher, food server, cook, and then the ultimate job, the door checker to scan and stamp student IDs to get into the cafeteria…. I met some students there as a kid in HS that have resulted a lifetime friendships… I have dozens of stories about working at that place…..it was an awesome place to work for a shy HS kid like me… I grew up pretty fast working there… I loved it.
anyway, the majority of SCU students leave for home during the summer, thus the camp kids take over for the summer. e.g, youth camps are held for young kids… basketball camp, baseball camp, football camp, science camp, ROTC camp that invade the SCU campus for 1 to 2 week intervals throughout the summer… which wasn’t as fun as working during the school year to support the college kids….. when word got out that the 49ers would be holding camp, all us HS kid employees wanted that 49er camp gig. It was unreal that an NFL team was holding training camp less than 1 mile from my house in the then small town Santa Clara…..
asking for the 49er gig: I was pretty well liked by the food service managers…too well liked, so well liked that the ROTC guy (Marvin) wanted me to stay and work the ROTC gig during the summer, and not the 49ers gig… nobody like Marvin, he was a complete dickhead…think of Neidermeyer from Animal House, only much much shorter….., but since I was too nice a kid to back-talk to Marvin, he wanted me to work for him in ROTC… I took my brother’s advice and went to Marvin’s boss and asked for the 49er gig and got it…. good bye Marvin!!!!!
Very,different atmosphere working the cafeteria for the 49ers. 1st the food was good, were not allowed to talk to any player or coach, but over time some of the players opened up to us and were pretty cool………this was the SF era of OJ Simpson, Hollywood Henderson, Randy Cross, and Steve DeBerg was the big cheese at QB and I don’t even remember Joe Montana at all…… The only coach who was open to me was linebacker coach Bob McPherson… a very nice man.. both of his daughters worked with me at camp… he was a great guy, always took time to talk to me, he was very cool.
a couple of quick non-football related stories:
1) OJ Simpson lost his car keys… that dude had a big friggin head.. I mean literally the size of his head was huge… he lost his keys to his car… he comes up to me asks for help finding his keys “They (keys) just don’t get up and walk away!”…..I helped OJ look all over the place for his keys, the dishroom, kitchen, dinning area… the next day he tells me that a teammate had them all along….2) Charlie Young, I used to personally make and blend a power drink for this guy after each of his meals… 1 raw egg, 1 banana, milk, OJ (Orange Juice, not the running back), and Fruitcose powder……he would grade each batch that I made for him.. he was nice . I made a similar drink at home, only I used sugar instead of the fruitcose powder…..
joemadParticipantI grew up and still live in the San Jose area.
I have 2 older brothers, 1 was and is a 49ers fan, the other was and is a Rams fan.
Growing up, I liked both teams because of my brothers….. the clincher for me to be a Rams fan was a game when I was in Jr High, we were at my cousins house and I was in a back room watching the Rams play the Vikings in Minnesota on national TV …..the game resulted in 10-10 tie, I think it was 1976….. That was such a great emotional game that it got me hooked on the Rams…..Then in HS I loved the Rams, another memorable game was a MNF game against the Steelers in LA where the Rams won 10-3, I was a sophomore in HS when that happened as I used to get badgered by Raider and Steeler fans for being a Rams fan… my biology teacher that year was from UCLA and was also a Rams fan during that season…..
I still had a soft spot for the 49ers, because when I was in HS I worked their training camp at Santa Clara University in the summer of 1979 and 1980 when NOBODY was a 49er fan… when SF won the Super Bowl in 1981 all these Raider fans and fans from other teams jumped on the 49er bandwagon and it made me SICK!!!! It fueled my deep dislike of the 49ers and their fair weather fans and it strengthen my loyalty to the LA Rams…. I really loved those John Robinson teams of the 80’s……
June 22, 2015 at 1:23 pm in reply to: NFL's top quarterback franchise? Historical countdown from No. 32 to 1 #26666joemadParticipanti thought that the Colts would be ranked #1. What about the ultimate journeyman Earl Morrall????
BTW, I think the Bears are ranked too high…
Some great QBs on this list… I was surprised with Romo’s QB rating….
joemadParticipant<P>Listen, I know this is going to be difficult for you guys to hear, but I’m afraid I just have to say this. The Lakers are the only team that matters. Other teams can win a championship once every 50 years, or whatever, but the Lakers have won 1 out of every 3 championships over the past 35 years, and with all the cap space in the world, and the #2 pick overall, they are a couple of years away from reasserting their Lakerdom.</P>
<P>So…enjoy it while you can.</P>I think the days of seeing Jack Nicholson and Dyan Cannon courtside at a Laker playoff game is over.
Dr. Bus is dead, Phil Jackson left the dysfunctional Laker family to join a very lousy Knicks team……….. Mitch Kupchak is no Jerry West.
BTW, Jerry West works for the Warriors now, and yesterday showed that he still has an eye for talent…. he gets rid of guys like Monte Ellis and helped assemble a very decent Warriors team and he doesn’t look for has beens like Steve Nash to shore up a roster.
The days of Chamberlain and Kareem finishing their careers as great Laker centers are over, Dwight Howard and Shaq both left Laker dysfunction. Dr. Bus’s kids have gutted the Lakers.
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joemadParticipantreminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Jerry dates a girl he met over the phone named Donna Chang… Jerry thought she was Chinese, but she had shorted her name from Changstein. He was a bit surprised when he actually met her……
Donna Chang went on to give “Confucius” advice to George’s mother… as she too was fooled by the name.
“Ya know you’re not Chinese…. that changes everything!”
joemadParticipantone of my favorite scenes from the movie…. I loved Captain Quint.
joemadParticipantthese teams from the mid 80’s were underrated, the patch job pitching rotation that replaced Ferragamo (Kemp, Bartkowski, Dills, Dieter, etc) were not enough to get through the playoffs…. Too bad Jim Everett wasn’t 1 year younger to play in 85 instead of Dieter…and too bad ED went to the Colts, the RAMS could’ve used him in 1989…….. had they won 1 more playoff game in 85 and 89, I don’t think they ever leave LA for STL in 1995.
I really liked that secondary and LB core…, Garry Green, Leroy Irvin, Nolan Cromwell Johnie Johnson with a rotation of Jerry Gray and Vince Newsome….Carl Ekern, Kevin Greene, Mel Owens, Wilcher, etc…. very good defense back in the 80’s…..
June 1, 2015 at 1:32 pm in reply to: Monday morning question: which Rams players can become elite at their position #25651joemadParticipantI like PA’s 2 long shots…. Quick and Jenkins….. but I’m not sure a QB like Foles can make Quick elite……..
joemadParticipanthappy birthday and enjoy your cake!
joemadParticipant<P>With the impending move to LA I have zero optimism.</P>
be hopeful…….The last time the RAMS moved to LA, they won the NFL Title during a lame duck season in Cleveland….
joemadParticipantHappy Birthday RFL! Have a great one.
joemadParticipantFinished career with 30 fumbles and 54 interceptions.
that’s a lot of friggin turnovers……..9 of the 30 fumbles were recovered by the defense, he might need Tom Brady’s ball boys…..
More stuff: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737484/sean-mannion
Strengths Weaknesses
STRENGTHS: Tall with an adequate build…keeps his shoulders square to the line of scrimmage with a natural over-the-top delivery…adequate arm strength when stepping into his throws, controlling his ball speed well…improved footwork and base to create the framework to get the most out of his arm…sees the field well to scan and make precise reads in his drops…accurate deep ball thrower with terrific touch on bucket tosses.Not afraid to test small windows and gives his man a chance to attack the ball…tough and bounces back after hits…shy personality, but in full control of the offense…calm and always appears under control, getting his teammates lined up correctly and making checks at the line…develops strong chemistry and feel with his targets, which stems from his practice habits…son of a high school head coach and carries himself like a professional, leading by example with natural leadership intangibles.
Strong football resume as a four year starter and first three-year captain in school history (43 career starts), owning 18 Oregon State passing records, including career touchdown throws (83)…holds the Pac-12 career record for passing yards (13,600).
WEAKNESSES: Struggles to consistently drive the ball if he doesn’t step into his throws or have a firm base, struggling to add juice or adjust his trajectory…improved footwork and pocket maneuverability but neither are a strength as he struggles to re-set his eyes once moved from his spot…experienced with his three, five and seven step drops, but sluggish with his depth.
Struggles to recognize the blitz and doesn’t do enough after the snap to evade pressure, failing to speed up his process…hesitant when the pocket shows cracks and looks like a deer in headlights…holds the ball too long with a suspect internal clock that can be read with a sun dial…tends to telegraph his throws, staring down his targets…pre-determines passes and makes puzzling decisions that end with too many defenders at the other end of his passes…doesn’t have the mobility to improvise or keep plays alive, needing to slow himself and set his feet before pushing the ball.
Load-up delivery isn’t a glaring issue, but he lacks an efficient release with small hands…lean with room to add muscle mass on his frame…loses confidence too easily, causing poor ball placement and keeping him from processing what he sees quick enough when things go downhill…not the same quarterback without Brandin Cooks as his safety valve…career 46.4% passer on 3rd down attempts with a 21-16 TD-INT ratio.
In Our View: Mannion has an attractive resume as a four-year starter with impressive production in a pro-style offense. He has adequate arm strength and accuracy, but isn’t above average in either category as the ball doesn’t shoot off his hand. Mannion is too methodical with his movements and tends to deteriorate when the pocket crumbles, struggling with his pocket awareness, internal clock and improvising skills, which is a recipe for disaster in the NFL.
He is a high character human being with exceptional make-up and intangibles – teams will never have to worry about him off the field or not putting in enough work. Mannion has shown promise over his career, but tends to be too careless with his decisions and lacks the consistency against pressures to be a consistent NFL starter. If he can learn how to speed up his process for the NFL level, Mannion can carve out a Shaun Hill type of career, but if he doesn’t, his career will likely follow a Tony Pike-like path.
–Dane Brugler
Player Overview
A four-star quarterback recruit out of high school, Mannion committed to Oregon State as a junior in high school because of the Beavers’ coaching staff and the offense was similar to what he ran in high school.After redshirting in 2010, Mannion beat out incumbent starter Ryan Katz (who later transferred) as a redshirt freshman, passing for 3,328 yards, which was third best in school history at the time. He showed improvement in 2012 as a sophomore, but missed a few games due to a knee injury and Cody Vaz did a nice job in relief and didn’t concede the job when Mannion returned healthy. However, Mannion beat out Vaz and was named the starter for the 2013 season opener and had a record-breaking year, passing for a Pac-12 record 4,662 yards with a 37-15 TD-INT ratio, earning All-Pac 12 Honorable Mention honors.
With Brandin Cooks leaving early for the NFL Draft, Mannion’s production dipped as a senior in 2014, including a career-low 263.7 yards per start, 62.3% completions and only 15 passing scores. He won the 2014 Manning Passing Academy Air-It-Out Challenge in July 2014 and served as a counselor at the Nike Elite 11 quarterback Camp, winning the counselor’s challenge. He earned an invitation to the 2015 Senior Bowl.
joemadParticipantSan Francisco Warriors used to play at the Cow Palace near SF, then moved to Oakland in the early 70’s and changed the name to represent California, not only Oakland…..e.g., when they moved to Oakland, they changed the name to Golden State, not Oakland…
Golden State represents the state of California not the Golden Gate bridge… the Golden Gate Bridge doesn’t even touch Oakland. The bridge that you see on their jersey’s is not the Golden Gate bride, it’s the Bay Bridge that connects Oakland to SF.
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joemadParticipantGo Warriors!!!! It’s been 40 years since the Warriors won a championship, it’s been a remarkable season for the Golden State….
BTW…..I was talking to my boss from France who lived in Houston and is pulling for the Rockets…. he thought that Golden State was based in New Jersey…….. they’re moving to San Francisco soon, I hope they keep Golden State as their name.
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