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ParticipantHe’s why they moved.
A lot of people don’t
know that.funny…… he’s awful….. reminds me of this guy… only this guy was better.
joemad
ParticipantGeorgia was deeply disliked long before the move…
Inherited the team that was supposed to go to Rosenbloom’s son.
then fired her step son as GM.
let Hacksaw, Bruskinski, Dickerson etc walk.
She left the 2nd largest market in the USA for the lure of personal money, using the stadium as an excuse….
Stepson says city better off without Rams’ Frontiere
January 25, 1994|By Bill Tanton“She’d be worse for Baltimore than Bob Irsay was.”
What?
Who could possibly be worse for Baltimore than Irsay, whose name will live in infamy for moving the Colts to Indianapolis a decade ago?
The woman referred to is none other than Georgia Frontiere, who owns the Los Angeles Rams and is flirting with the idea of moving her team here.
At least she has told Anaheim, Calif., officials that on May 3 she will give 15 months’ notice so the Rams can play elsewhere beginning in 1995.
And who is the man saying such a terrible thing over the phone from New Orleans about Frontiere?
Why, it’s none other than Steve Rosenbloom, her stepson — and her former Rams general manager. He knows Georgia well.
I reminded Steve: “That would be hard for anybody to do, to be worse than Irsay.”
“Well, she could do it,” he said. “I can’t imagine why Baltimore would take another useless, squirrelly owner.”
Does Rosenbloom take seriously Georgia’s talk about possibly moving back here?
“I don’t take anything she says seriously,” he said. “But if she does go, it would just be the lure of the money and the fans will get shafted. It’s the Carpetbagger Show. It’s an insult to the fans.”
Rosenbloom’s late father, Carroll, was married to Georgia when Irsay acquired the Rams in 1971, only to trade that team for the Baltimore Colts.
The Rosenblooms didn’t know Irsay from Adam until then. They had no idea what kind of person Irsay was.
But Carroll Rosenbloom no longer felt appreciated here in his own hometown, and when Irsay surfaced as the investor who could pull off the first swap of two NFL teams, the deal was made.
Just as Irsay ran a great Baltimore franchise into the ground and ultimately moved it, Steve Rosenbloom says Georgia — who later married Dominic Frontiere — has destroyed the once-great Rams franchise.
And now she is talking about moving that.
“My dad drowned in April of 1979,” Steve said, “and Georgia inherited the Rams. I was her general manager.
“We had all the players signed early and in August of ’79, during training camp, she wanted me to quit. She didn’t want anybody around who was close to Carroll Rosenbloom. I made her fire me.
“That season the Rams went to the Super Bowl. [They lost to the Steelers, 31-19, in Pasadena before 103,985.] And she dismantled the organization.
“Now the Rams can’t win and they can’t draw and they’ve told everybody they want to move. How many tickets are they going to sell now?
“When you have a lousy team and you’re not involved in the community, you’re not going to draw. She’s blaming everybody but herself.
“All the Colts did was win when we were in Baltimore in the ’50s and through the ’60s. We were heavily involved in the community. We had the Colt Corrals and the Colt Associates.
“In all these years I’ve never seen fans anywhere as involved with their football team as those Baltimore fans were with the Colts. But Georgia has never made contact with the community.”
Steve Rosenbloom says Georgia never did like Baltimore, that the place “wasn’t big enough for her. She likes Hollywood.” She admits she hasn’t set foot in this town since 1971.
Steve says the best thing for Baltimore would be for one of the groups that tried to bring an NFL expansion team here to buy the Rams from Georgia, but she has shown no interest in selling.
“I’d have sold the Rams long ago,” Steve said, “but Georgia can’t make a decision.”
Steve Rosenbloom, at 49, is in the investment business in New Orleans. He doesn’t miss the NFL, though he spent 25 years in it. He goes to a Saints’ game only if one of his three sons “really wants to go.”
“I don’t miss the game because of what it has become,” he said. “We used to have a great group of owners who were football-oriented. Today, they have used car dealers who’ve been turning back odometers for 20 years.
“The commissioner [Paul Tagliabue] is a lawyer. What does that tell you about the league? Tagliabue used to be the guy in the league office who told us what we couldn’t do.
“I was surprised when the league passed over Baltimore and awarded expansion teams to Charlotte and Jacksonville.
“Now we know that Jack Kent Cooke has been planning to move his Redskins to Laurel. The brotherhood decided not to hurt one of their own and go to Baltimore.
“The NFL doesn’t recognize what Baltimore has. What Baltimore has — good, solid, working-class people who love football — is exactly what the league needs.
“The league needs an Ernie Accorsi, and he doesn’t even have a job right now. They’re going after the wrong people. Ernie understands the human side of the game.
“America has to be a great country when two people like Georgia and Irsay can run a business and take an income out of it every year. It shows you what a grip pro football has on the public.”
January 11, 2016 at 12:26 pm in reply to: Prisco: Bengals' implosion straight out of the handbook on football stupidity #36970joemad
ParticipantJeremy Hill shouldn’t have fumbled….
and you need to convert 1st downs in the 1st half………
January 8, 2016 at 12:45 pm in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36829joemad
ParticipantHis fifth year was the turnaround. That was 1999. 13-3 and a trip to the Super Bowl thanks to that miracle special teams play. Then, one yard away from forcing OT for the championship.
When the Titans scored their 1st TD in the Super Bowl vs the Rams, Fisher went for 2 and failed. I thought about that failed attempt when the Rams played in Minnesota this year …In both cases I thought it was a gamble with low reward….
If Mike Jones doesn’t make that tackle on that drive, I wonder if Fisher goes for 2 again? He wouldn’t need to if he played it safe when Tennessee scored their 1st TD. I’ll give him credit, he fired up the Titans in the 2nd half when the Rams faltered in the redzone in the 1st half of Super Bowl 34 to put the game away…..
January 6, 2016 at 12:57 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36700joemad
ParticipantIts still fun for me, to watch a ‘team’
struggling through ‘adversity’ to reach a goal.
And its fun to see the unexpected plays,
and beauty and strategy and force of the game.So far, i still enjoy the game itself,
and the internet message-board conversationsyes, you nailed it….
I’m 300 miles from LA, would see the Rams once or twice a year in Anaheim and every season in Candlestick / Levi…… (last game I saw at the Big A was Buddy Ryan’s Cards vs Chuck Knox’s LA RAMS)……. it was tough for me in 1995, luckly Al Gore invented the internet and kept us engaged, long before assbook, twitter, youtube, NFL.com…….there was Rams talk, it was my entry to the internet…..RAMS was one of my fist searches on NETSCAPE.
Ram fans that I’ll never meet in person but read and chat with frequently. It’s fucking beautiful.
January 5, 2016 at 3:23 pm in reply to: Final stats: Offense 29th, Defense 7th, Spec.Teams 8th #36656joemad
ParticipantRAMS:
7th in penalties
2nd in the NFC in penalites
5th in penalty flags thrown.joemad
ParticipantGood stuff from Alyo.
I also think it will be nearly impossible to keep both CBs.
yes, can’t keep everyone, but a big part of the solid CB play the past 2 seasons is because the Rams have had a very good pass rush.
joemad
ParticipantwAndering…ya know. Like in Lost in Space.
w
vFunny you should mention ‘Lost in Space’ – Dr. Smith’s catch phrase is particularly appropriate for Rams fans…
Dr. Smith used to be tough guy in the earlier Lost in Space episodes when he sabotaged the Jupiter 2 …. Space turned him into a pansy. I can’t believe the green lady had a crush on him…..
January 4, 2016 at 3:32 pm in reply to: Podcast 1/4 – Thomas and Balzer Those are like David Lynch Zombie audios. #36608joemad
ParticipantBefore I can even start to plot / plan travel next year, what are the odds we’re still in the NFC West next year?
Thanks a bunch.
1) I do not believe that the Rams will move conferences next year since the 2016 schedules have already been defined
URL = http://www.fbschedules.com/nfl-16/2016-st-louis-rams-football-schedule.php
2016 St. Louis Rams Opponents
Home Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina, Buffalo, Miami, NY Giants
Away Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, New England, NY Jets, Detroit
2) with a $500M relocation fee, I’m not sure that Mark Davis (Raiders) has the funds to formally do that unless the league helps.
The Rams will stay in the NFC west next year,
furthermore, In the long term, I do not think that the Rams will be affected by re-alignment if they move to So. Cal.Personally, I think the Raiders will share Levi Stadium with SF.
a) Yorks rent out that stadium to all kinds of events for additional revenue, (motocross, college bowl games, soccer matches, concerts etc)b) I don’t think that corporate sponsors in the local SF bay area will want to buy advertising in 2 stadiums in the same market. e.g., I don’t think that Bud Light will have signs at both Levi and in Oakland.
January 4, 2016 at 1:35 pm in reply to: Aaron Donald just broke J.J. Watt’s all-time grade record, and should be DPOY #36601joemad
Participantyes, that was a great play…. decent run back by Sims too…..I’m that glad Mason scored on that drive…..
joemad
ParticipantKeenum is not the most accurate and missed some throws… but at the same time, Quick, Britt and Tavon need to the catch the ball when it hits their hands…..it’s been years since the Rams have a had a decent receiver that can make a fucking play by catching a ball….
Also, and other double digit penalty day….. the lack of penalty discipline cost the Rams some winnable games this season…
speaking of penalties, shouldn’t PI been called twice on the Hekker’s floater to Marquez on the fake punt attempt or the horse collar tackle on Tavon? WTF… too bad Hekker didn’t deliver a better pass on that, but geez, throw a flag on that…. (BTW, During programe warmups, Hekker was under center quite a bit)
joemad
Participantjoemad
ParticipantHappy Holidays
joemad
ParticipantIs there an NFL team that would even consider Nick Foles as a starter?
With that said will Cigs ever get a gig as OC.
Cigs – Foles was no Bueno…. The offense SUCKED
joemad
ParticipantO’Dell has a little bit of Cog
in him, i see.w
vMaybe, but Carolina kinda has an antagonizing fucked mentality to bring reactions out of opponents.
I remember when Bradford hurt his knee in Carolina. That game was getting out way out of hand prior to Bradford’s freak injury.
Carolina Panthers are somewhat of a dickhead team.
December 18, 2015 at 10:44 am in reply to: Rams: Great team or Greatest Team Ever? Bucs Post Game thoughts #35791joemad
ParticipantClassic Rams. Get out of the playoff race and start winning some games.
Pittsburgh, Packers, Vikings and Ravens…. all very winnable games this season……… it’s a shame. the Rams could have seized those for victory……
Rams need to win out, and Seattle and Vikings need to lose out…
Seattle is favored by 14 vs Cleveland……, just like the Rams were vs the Patriots in SB 36…..
Bummer…. I’d love to see a few more meaningful games…..
December 16, 2015 at 1:35 am in reply to: Gurley v. Martin? (ie. the official "can the Rams beat the Bux" thread) #35699joemad
ParticipantI wish Lovie was the Rams HC.
joemad
ParticipantI’m just mad about Saffron……Saffron’s mad about me…….
I prefer Sunshine Superman, but Mellow Yellow is cool……..
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ParticipantChris Myers was winning the day on analysis for Fox, pointing out Austin had more touches in the 1st than he had all last week, criticizing the holding call that canceled an Austin punt return TD and hilariously begging the Lions to kneel out the end of the painful first half. When the inevitable subject of Los Angeles came up, though, Myers lost serious points claiming St. Louis fans had enjoyed “a lot” of successful seasons here. Um, try FIVE, Chris. Out of 21.
Ram fans have been getting the B and C level broadcast teams for the past 10 years…. Chris Myers has grown on me, he’s not bad as a TV play-by-play guy……
BTW; Good to see that the Rams haven’t mailed in the season, it’s good to read that you haven’t either……..
December 14, 2015 at 11:30 pm in reply to: that is what football people call "a win" (Lions game thread) #35653joemad
ParticipantSpecial teams, punt coverage was also a factor in this game….
Fisher ball needs field position to succeed and the punt coverage team pinned Detroit few times.joemad
Participantwelcome back!!!!
do the Dr’s know what is causing this? Was it Bells Paulsey?
Take care of yourself man… watching these Rams games might kill you….
joemad
ParticipantAnyway, wasn’t sold on Kurt after the first game.
The Raven game. I only started thinking they had
something after the Atlanta game.The Ravens game didn’t sell me either, what really sold me on Warner was the Bengals game and the loss to Tennessee…. despite the loss, the Rams showed me they were for real…..
I remember turning to my brother after Warner converted at 3rd pass in one of these early games under huge amounts of pressure and said, “this guy is good and for real”… I don’t know if you folks remember, but that Tennessee game was over at halftime, we were watching that game and thought 6-1, but the come back was awesome, they just fell a little short……
other cool things about the Martz interview, was the scripted bomb vs the Vikings in the 1999 divisional playoff game to open the game……….. what surprised me was that Martz stated that he did not script very many plays…. which is quite the opposite of what Bill Walsh used to do with SF…. Walsh would sometimes script the 1st 20 plays of a game.
Martz had cool insights about Bulger too… Bulger’s great season his Jr year in college, and Martz understood Bulger’s struggles his senior year with a new OC…. they had their eye on him and when he was released to the practice squad by the ATL, the Rams snapped him up….
It’s cool how these coaching staffs scout these guys…….
I wonder what would have happened if Vermeil stayed in 2000 and beyond……
joemad
Participantthat was a fun interview to listen to… I’m not a big fan of Cusamano but Martz provided some good insights…… He still thinks Foles is a good QB… yikes…
interesting on listening to Martz discussing how they evaluated Warner in NFLE (Euro) At the time, I was a big football junkie and actually watched a lot of those NFLE games and I remember watching Warner with tiny the square Rams logo on the back of his Admirals helmet, thus I gave him special attention… Like Martz said, the offensive lines in NLFE were not that good, but Warner still made some great throws under huge amounts of defensive lineman pressure. I remember Warner playing very tough under constant pressure in NFLE……..
joemad
Participantneither Detroit nor the Rams are favored… right now this is a pick em game….. Hard to believe that Detroit is not favored by at least 6 points with 10 days rest facing the Rams offense
I wonder what the odds makers see? Can Case throw a 65 yard A-Rod hail mary…. just as important, do the Rams have anyone that can catch it?
BTW, the Rams have only beaten the Lions once since moving to STL….do you guys remember the Gus Ferrotte 4th down TD completion during the magical 1999 season? …. that one still hurts me…….it was right after the comeback that never was in Tennessee……..at least Kurt Warner won Marshall’s heart during that game…(Zooey, is that your Taje Allen reference?)
COMING THIS WEEK
The Rams (4-8) will try to snap a five-game losing streak when they host fellow underachiever Detroit (4-8) in a noon game Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome. The Lions, who finished 11-5 and reached the playoffs a year ago, started this season 0-5 and 1-7. After three straight wins, they fell 27-23 to visiting Green Bay on Thursday on a 61-yard pass from Aaron Rodgers to Richard Rodgers on an untimed play to end the game.
PLAYER TO WATCH
Defensive end Ezekiel Ansah. Born and raised in Ghana, ‘Ziggy’ was cut twice by the Brigham Young basketball team and was with the Cougars’ track team before being persuaded to give football a try. Five years later, he’s one of the most disruptive young players in the NFL. At 6 feet 5 and 278 pounds, he possesses a mix of power and speed that few in the league can match. Selected fifth overall by the Lions in the 2013 draft, the 26-year-old Ansah has 12½ sacks this season — only Houston’s J.J. Watt (13½) has more — and he’s tied for the league lead with four forced fumbles.
HE SAID IT
“Hindsight’s 20-20,’’ Lions head coach Jim Caldwell said after the Packers rallied from a 20-0 third-quarter deficit to win in Detroit on Thursday.
Questioned about the defensive strategy on the game’s last play, Caldwell explained that he was expecting a lateral play instead of the desperation pass. On the play, the Lions rushed three, had Ansah, their best pass rusher, positioned near the 40-yard line and failed to employ 6-foot-5 receiver Calvin Johnson as a defensive back, something he’s done in the past.
“We had plenty of guys back there,’’ the coach said. “We just didn’t make the play. They did.’’
INJURIES
The Rams came out of Sunday’s 27-3 loss to the Cardinals with cornerback Janoris Jenkins and tight end Lance Kendricks in the league’s concussion protocol. In addition, safety T.J. McDonald hurt his shoulder and kicker Zach Hocker injured his quad in pregame. And then there’s defensive end Robert Quinn (back), cornerback Trumaine Johnson (thigh) and kicker Greg Zuerlein (right hip), who were unable to play on Sunday.
The Lions appeared to come out of Thursday’s gut-wrenching loss to the Packers without any significant injuries. They did play that night without starting center Travis Swanson and veteran receiver Lance Moore because of ankle injuries.
SERIES HISTORY
The Rams hold a 42-40-1 edge in a series that began in Cleveland in 1937. Since the move to St. Louis in 1995, the teams have met seven times, but just once — a 41-33 Rams win in 2006 — in St. Louis. The Lions are 4-3 against the Rams since 1995 and have won the last two, 44-6 in 2010 and 27-24 in 2012. In the 2012 season opener, the Lions’ Matthew Stafford shook off three first-half interceptions to throw the game-winning TD pass with 15 seconds to play.
Joe Lyons
NFL Lines For Week 14 – NFL Football Line Week Fourteen
NFL Line 12/10 – 12/14, 2015Date & Time Favorite Line Underdog Total
12/10 8:25 ET At Arizona -7.5 Minnesota 45.5
12/13 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -3 Pittsburgh 49
12/13 1:00 ET Buffalo -1 At Philadelphia 47
12/13 1:00 ET At Carolina -7.5 Atlanta 46.5
12/13 1:00 ET At Cleveland -1.5 San Francisco 41
12/13 1:00 ET At Chicago -3 Washington 4412/13 1:00 ET At St. Louis PK Detroit 41
12/13 1:00 ET At Kansas City -10 San Diego 45.5
12/13 1:00 ET At Tampa Bay -3.5 New Orleans 50.5
12/13 1:00 ET At Jacksonville -1 Indianapolis Off
12/13 1:00 ET At NY Jets -7 Tennessee 43
12/13 8:30 ET New England -3 At Houston 45
12/13 4:05 ET At Denver -7.5 Oakland 43.5
12/13 4:25 ET At Green Bay -7 Dallas 44
12/13 1:00 ET Seattle -9 At Baltimore OffMonday Night Football Line
12/14 8:30 ET NY Giants -1.5 At Miami 47
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ParticipantMy guess–and it’s only a guess–is that we will see more running–even if it means 3 and outs.
That’s the one consistency of this offense. They’ve consistently been the 3 and out offense. Horrible offense.
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Mistake after mistake after mistake.
I think that’s why I would be OK with moving on from Fisher. Let’s see if someone else can change the culture. I hate to do it again. I like continuity. Hell, I’d love for some continuity … but Fisher’s been here long enough to get a good idea of what he’s about. And, it’s always about inconsistency.
Penalties, penalties, penalties…. they had 100 yards in penalties AGAIN yesterday……….. Fisher’s team has NO discipline.
joemad
Participantcheck out the 1st sentence on Cig’s Wiki page:
“”””Cignetti was most successful in implementing the most ineffective Offense in NFL History, serving as the offensive coordinator for the St. Louis Rams in 2015″”””
joemad
Participanta statistical beat down by the Cardinals.
29 first downs for Ariz, 9 for the Rams….
and it’s all down hill from there….. WOW….
joemad
ParticipantNFL Network promo
Some ex Viking said “My Vikings” and Kurt said against “My Cardinals”
I thought his jaw was wired shut…friggin’ Traitor… I blame Brenda.
joemad
ParticipantI saw that. Made me sick. I wonder what Kurt would say if the Rams made it back to Prime Time Thursday and faced the Cardinals?
BTW This GB vs Det game has me thinking about the Foles pre and post GB game thread… Packers haven’t fared much better than Foles since the Ram game in Lambeau
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