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ParticipantSo KC was the 1 nay vote for the Carson recommendation (alignment reasons)… I didn’t know which owner that was…..
my apologies if the follow article has been posted… looks like Jerry Jones greased the skids to ease tension on the owner’s meeting in Houston.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-nfl-la-tick-tock-20160117-story.html
A behind-the-scenes look at a Rams’ proposal the NFL couldn’t refuse
The final steps in the National Football League’s return to Los Angeles began behind closed doors — with a coin flip.
The St. Louis Rams won the right to go first, and their owner and a top executive made their pitch in the hotel ballroom, outlining plans for a multibillion-dollar stadium in Inglewood.
Next came the backers of the Carson stadium proposal — the owners of the San Diego Chargers and the Oakland Raiders. Recruited to oversee that project was Disney Chairman and CEO Robert Iger, who spoke of his love for the NFL and his branding expertise and reminded the 32 owners that, as head of ESPN’s parent company, he had paid them all plenty of money over the years.
After Iger left, Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones pushed back his swivel chair and stood to address the room.
“He said he paid us. Last time I checked, that money is coming from Disney shareholders, not him,” Jones said, touching off laughter.
The moment of levity was a bad omen for the Carson project
For 11 hours on Tuesday, the owners of America’s most profitable sports league — with $10 billion a year in revenue — were cloistered in the Azalea Ballroom of a Westin hotel just a short drive from an airport and their private jets.
Their mission: to pick the teams and stadium that would bring professional football back to L.A. after a 21-year hiatus.
Since the Rams and Raiders left Southern California following the 1994 season, numerous sites had been proposed for the NFL’s return. They included downtown L.A., Anaheim, Irvine, the City of Industry, the Rose Bowl, the Coliseum and even Chavez Ravine.
Every proposal failed. Los Angeles had made it clear that no taxpayer money would be spent to lure a team.
In many ways, L.A. was more valuable to the NFL without a team. The city was leverage, a threat that teams could use to extract public financing for new stadiums in their home cities.
Things changed when Rams owner Stan Kroenke bought 60 acres of land next to the former Hollywood Park racetrack and a year later in 2015 revealed plans to build a stadium. What set Kroenke’s plan apart from past proposals was a crucial fact: He already owned a team that could be moved.
At the time he didn’t commit to returning the Rams to L.A. from St. Louis, but the implications were clear.
Six weeks later, a competing proposal emerged: The Chargers and Raiders wanted to construct a stadium on the site of a former landfill in Carson.
In between the two announcements, the NFL created a committee of six owners to evaluate stadium options in L.A. and any possible relocation. NFL owners met repeatedly to hear presentations on the two L.A. projects as well as those in the three home markets trying to keep their teams.
San Diego and St. Louis eventually assembled stadium proposals that included hundreds of millions of dollars in public financing, although San Diego’s hinged on a public vote later this year. Though Oakland city officials said they wanted to keep the Raiders, they did not offer the team any financial incentives or formal plan.
On Jan. 4, the three teams, citing dissatisfaction with their stadiums and the proposed remedies from their home cities, applied to move to L.A.
The NFL made it clear that the owners believed the L.A. market could support one team, and probably two, but not three. Among other things, there weren’t enough slots for broadcast outlets for three teams, and the city already had huge football fan bases for college teams, such as UCLA and USC.
At least one professional football team was going to be turned away.
By the time all the owners gathered here Tuesday, they were impatient for a deal. Four of the six owners on the L.A. committee had teams in the playoffs and another was in the midst of a coaching search.
The league set aside two days for the meeting, but most of the owners wanted to resolve it in one. Nevertheless, the league had reserved hotel space in Dallas for the following week just in case.
The details of the daylong session were pieced together from interviews with multiple owners, team executives and league officials, most speaking on the condition that they not be identified when describing confidential negotiations.
The Rams opened their presentation with 30 renderings showing the sleek, low-slung stadium and surrounding development they wanted to build in Inglewood.
Kevin Demoff, the team’s chief operating officer, said this would be much more than a stadium for one or two teams; the campus could house other league business ventures, such as NFL Network and NFL.com. Kroenke also spoke about his passion for the multibillion-dollar project.
The team’s pitch closed with excerpts from two columns by Bill Plaschke of The Times pleading for the Rams to return to L.A. The Rams, Plaschke wrote, had deep roots in the community and they were Showtime before the Showtime Lakers.
Chargers owner Dean Spanos and Raiders owner Mark Davis made brief comments about the Carson proposal.Then Iger took the floor. One of the world’s most powerful entertainment executives, he had been brought on two months earlier to lead the project if it were approved. He talked about how he had come to appreciate the stadium’s location, which he has said was ideal for the two franchises because it had good freeway access and was close to Orange County.
In a corner of the ballroom, league staff had installed a computer and printer to generate paper ballots of new resolutions.
When it came time to begin voting, the owners had to resolve an important matter: Would it be a secret ballot?
Ordinarily, secret ballots are reserved for the most sensitive votes that owners cast — the selection of a new commissioner and the site of a Super Bowl. By a show of hands, they voted, 19-13, to keep this one secret.
The mood was tense even though a consensus had been building among the owners in recent weeks for a hybrid option: pairing the Rams and Chargers in Inglewood and leaving the Raiders in Oakland. Neither of the original proposals had enough votes to prevail.
The room was mostly quiet; many owners communicated by text message. Carolina Panthers owner Jerry Richardson, a member of the L.A. committee who supported Carson and orchestrated Iger’s involvement in the project, said little throughout the day.
At one point, Iger ventured down from the fourth floor to the third, where more than 200 media members were stationed, to get a cup of coffee. Dozens of reporters swarmed him. Someone jokingly asked, “Don’t you wish there was coffee on the fourth floor?”
Before the full membership voted, the L.A. committee recommended the Carson project by a 5-1 margin. But among the rest of the owners, momentum had been building for Inglewood.
After two ballots, Inglewood was only three votes short of the 24 needed for approval. Owners saw a path toward a resolution. No one wanted to stand in the way of a project clearly preferred by the majority of owners.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell ushered the three owners seeking relocation into a private negotiation that lasted about an hour.
Sensing the end was near, Jones had beer and wine delivered to the ballroom. The tension seemed to have ebbed.
By the time Goodell and the three owners returned to the room, the Raiders had agreed to withdraw their bid to move to L.A.
A proposal to pair the Rams in Inglewood with a team to be determined went before the owners. It passed by a 30-2 margin. The two who opposed the compromise remain a mystery.
The agreement — which gave the Chargers a one-year option to join the Rams in L.A. and the Raiders an identical right if the Chargers decline — was one that league staff had discussed for at least six months.
To encourage the Rams to make a deal with a second team, the resolution barred the Rams from selling personal seat licenses, suites or naming rights until February 2017 unless another NFL team joins them before then.
Minutes after the final vote, Goodell stood at a lectern before rows of reporters and a forest of television cameras. His eyes were tired, his voice weary.
“It was a difficult decision for ownership,” Goodell said. “But we also realized that this was our opportunity.”
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joemad
ParticipantHappy Birthday RM. Have a great 2016.
a big thank you for facilitating all of this to make this Ram fan culture possible.
This is a pretty cool site.
joemad
ParticipantWe all know that irritating fan that identifies with a team and because of that irritating guy you want his team (Denver) to lose.
I’ve been rooting against Denver for weeks because of that guy…. Geez….no win situation for me in AFC
Cards vs Carolina. Sam Bradford ended his Ram career in Carolina. As much as I think Arians is an ass and even though Roman Gabriel did color commentary for the Panthers I’m rooting for…. I don’t know who I want to win.
Sucky final four for me, but I will follow the games closely.
joemad
Participanti played in many classic rock cover bands throughout the years and I always insisted on doing a few Bowie tunes.
Bowie has a great song catalog. A big part of his sound and composition was Mick Ronson’s choppy riffs. Very underrated musician… Bowie’s rhythm section was also great.
Very dynamic sound for a simple 4 piece line up.
Sadly both Ronson and Bowie are gone.
joemad
ParticipantFitzgerald is great. The Rams are not his only victim…
joemad
ParticipantStan reminds me of Uncle Pennypacker on the Monopoly board…he just needs the top hat.
joemad
ParticipantJanuary 15, 2016 at 1:17 pm in reply to: LA Times starts Rams coverage + LA press conferences #37376joemad
Participantyeah, that is a cool interview.
One slight correction though…. the interviewer made a mistake……Georgia did not move the team from LA to Anaheim, that was planned by Rosenbloom before he drowned.
It’s a shame those 1970’s Rams teams didn’t win one, that was a great team.
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ParticipantSeattle rushed for almost twice as many yards as the Vikings did…
Seattle did that with a running back that no one has even heard of.
Seattle gained more total yards than the Vikings, got into the endzone and converted more 3rd downs…
Seattle’s defense played better…
The missed FG was set up in part by a questionable PI call that resulted in 19 yards for Minnesota
I agree Seattle got lucky that the FG was missed, but the Vikings did not dominate that game and the missed FG was only part of the reason the Vikings lost.
Seattle played better.
January 15, 2016 at 12:47 pm in reply to: Players on moving – Farr, Warner, Bruce x2, Slater, Hekker, Holt, Gurley, Proehl #37371joemad
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Despite relocation, Rams great Isaac Bruce knows his ‘Ramily’ will surviveURL – http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/14/isaac-bruce-rams-relocation-los-angeles
Isaac Bruce has been through this drill before. The former Rams great, a centerpiece of The Greatest Show on Turf, was a rookie in 1994, the last season the Rams played in Los Angeles. Bruce spent 13 seasons of his illustrious 16-year career in St. Louis, eclipsing 15,000 receiving yards, 1,000 receptions and most importantly, earning a Super Bowl ring with the 1999 team. He remains a community pillar in the region.
As Aaron Donald, Todd Gurley and the current roster of Rams prepare to migrate to Los Angeles, Bruce shares his unique perspective of having made the reverse trip. He also reflects on St. Louis as a city and explains why this isn’t a final goodbye for local fans.
Melissa Jacobs: What was your reaction when you heard the news that the Rams were heading back to Los Angeles?
Isaac Bruce: I can’t really say I was shocked. Probably the last two years it’s been a cloud of “maybe the Rams will go back.” I saw what that did, leaving L.A., especially to the Melonheads and die-hard Rams fans there. I also saw what happened when we got to St Louis. It was packed stadiums. Fans were very hungry for football. They were very knowledgeable. They were there through a lot of downs and at the mountaintop. It’s bittersweet.
It’s a reminder that the business part of what we do has to be taken care of. It’s unfortunate that feelings and emotions have to be pushed to the side.
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MJ: Do you feel like St. Louis fans provided enough support?
IB: I do. Honestly, I do. From the governor to the politicians to the fans themselves, the public funds that were available were impressive. $200 million is a lot of money. To put something together in that short amount of time and have it sealed, it showed the fortitude, the courage of the people to keep football.
MJ: Has it been hard to see the empty stadiums the past few years?
IB: It’s been very hard. I knew what could be in that stadium. I’ve experienced great times in that stadium with fans to the rafters. Tickets used to be hard to come by. Just to see opposing fans’ jerseys all over the place, that was kind of sad.
MJ: One of the knocks you would hear about St. Louis as a football town is that it was a baseball town first. Did you feel that?
IB: When we first got to St. Louis, it was pandemonium. It leveled off at one point around when Mark McGwire started doing his thing with the Cardinals. The product is important, and it will be in Los Angeles as well. People like winning. Players like winning. Fans like winning. I like winning.
MJ: How would you describe the emotional connection between the citizens of St. Louis and the Rams?
IB: They experienced the lows and highs when we were rolling. St. Louis was a hard place [for teams] to play when we were winning. You couldn’t hear because of the fans being so loud. They made it easier for us. They were on a first-name basis with us. They showed up at every event, supported the foundations that we had. It was a love affair.
MJ: Speaking of foundations, the Isaac Bruce Foundation, which touches the lives of so many, is based in St. Louis. How beneficial has it been to have an actual NFL team there, and are you concerned about any adverse effect the move will have?
IB: What we do is God ordained, and we’re there to make a positive impact in the city of St. Louis and will continue to do that. We expect growth and expansion. My plan when I started this in 2006 was to spill out to other cities, and now we have a platform in Los Angeles.
MJ: I can see how it’s a great opportunity.
IB: Of course. As a franchise, we started in Cleveland, went to Los Angeles, then to St. Louis and back to Los Angeles. We’re a Ram Nation. We’re a Ramily. A Rams family. Every city celebrated the Super Bowl in ’99. Every city we were in, they considered themselves Rams fans. I don’t see that changing.
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MJ: How difficult was it for you to relocate from Los Angeles to St. Louis in 1995?
IB: You’re talking about a 21-year old coming to St. Louis. I was very immature. I think it probably extended my career being in St. Louis versus being in L.A. at that time.
I had spent two years prior at the junior college in L.A. and then go to St. Louis, a place I didn’t know at all. I didn’t know what to expect. I had a really good feeling about Los Angeles at the time. I only knew cost of living would be a little lower in St. Louis.
MJ: A little?
IB: Yeah, more than a little bit. So that was a big plus. Other than that, emotionally, it’s hard to see what this does to the fans. My heart is with them and what they gave us. Unfortunately, sooner or later, I don’t want to say this will blow over, but a lot of people will forget about it and it’s going to be exciting in Los Angeles.
MJ: How do you feel about [Rams owner] Stan Kroenke?
IB: It takes a strong leader to make tough decisions. You have to do mathematics, add some things up. He’s a native Missourian, named after two great Cardinals players. My message is that I’m a Ram for life. I want the best for my organization. I want football people who can take football players and mold them so we can have a winner. Ultimately I think Mr. Kroenke did what was best for the organization. And he did what was best for him.
MJ: Do you think St. Louis will have another football team?
IB: I think it’s a great city. I would hate to see other teams use St. Louis as a place where they threaten to land if they don’t get what they want in their city. I can see the city with another team, an expansion team, so they can really establish their own roots, their own legacy and be successful with it.
joemad
ParticipantA lot of nice stories and emotional feelings shared on this thread…
I’ve been to Ram games in Seattle, SF, Oakland and of course Anaheim. Looking back I wish I made at least one trip to STL to get the STL experience…every season we would kick around the idea to go but it just never happened…This season we thought about attending the Steeler game but our schedule did not allow that.
My annual pilgramige to see the 49er Ram game at Levi was very nice this year…There was a good presence of Ram fans and our experience at Levi was much better than last year’s, now that we’re more familiar with the facility.
There was optimism shared with fellow fans about the possible return at Levi. But like that blocked FG in OT that denied the Rams a sure victory on the last game of the season was a reminder of what could easily happen of scraping a return to So Cal.
During pre game warm ups we saw Eric Dickerson and Vince Ferragamo roam the field. When the game ended and as the players exited the field a few dozen of us Ram fans circled the tunnel and chanted LA.
After exiting the stadium we hung out in the parking lot tossing the pigskin late until the SC PD asked us to leave as we discussed plays that might have made a difference in the game. “Penalty pushed back Greg the Leg on the missed FG” “Was the kick low on the block?” “Can fucking Quick make a catch? WTF is wrong with him” “Rams missed Gurley” but the topic always returned to the potential move.
In my gut since 1995 I somewhat felt that the Rams would somehow comeback. When Chip and Lucy got the team my hopes increased, but vanished when Missouri native Stan K took full control…unreal
I can’t wait for next season. Road trips to LA to the freaking Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. In three years the Rams, one of the lousiest teams in the past 10 years, will have the premier stadium in the world. Unreal.
They better get a good fucking quarterback.
It’s pretty cool.
joemad
ParticipantPeterson averaging 2 yards a carry and an offense failing to score a TD with 180 yards in total offense is not controlling a game.
joemad
ParticipantHe’s why they moved.
A lot of people don’t
know that.funny…… he’s awful….. reminds me of this guy… only this guy was better.
joemad
ParticipantGeorgia was deeply disliked long before the move…
Inherited the team that was supposed to go to Rosenbloom’s son.
then fired her step son as GM.
let Hacksaw, Bruskinski, Dickerson etc walk.
She left the 2nd largest market in the USA for the lure of personal money, using the stadium as an excuse….
Stepson says city better off without Rams’ Frontiere
January 25, 1994|By Bill Tanton“She’d be worse for Baltimore than Bob Irsay was.”
What?
Who could possibly be worse for Baltimore than Irsay, whose name will live in infamy for moving the Colts to Indianapolis a decade ago?
The woman referred to is none other than Georgia Frontiere, who owns the Los Angeles Rams and is flirting with the idea of moving her team here.
At least she has told Anaheim, Calif., officials that on May 3 she will give 15 months’ notice so the Rams can play elsewhere beginning in 1995.
And who is the man saying such a terrible thing over the phone from New Orleans about Frontiere?
Why, it’s none other than Steve Rosenbloom, her stepson — and her former Rams general manager. He knows Georgia well.
I reminded Steve: “That would be hard for anybody to do, to be worse than Irsay.”
“Well, she could do it,” he said. “I can’t imagine why Baltimore would take another useless, squirrelly owner.”
Does Rosenbloom take seriously Georgia’s talk about possibly moving back here?
“I don’t take anything she says seriously,” he said. “But if she does go, it would just be the lure of the money and the fans will get shafted. It’s the Carpetbagger Show. It’s an insult to the fans.”
Rosenbloom’s late father, Carroll, was married to Georgia when Irsay acquired the Rams in 1971, only to trade that team for the Baltimore Colts.
The Rosenblooms didn’t know Irsay from Adam until then. They had no idea what kind of person Irsay was.
But Carroll Rosenbloom no longer felt appreciated here in his own hometown, and when Irsay surfaced as the investor who could pull off the first swap of two NFL teams, the deal was made.
Just as Irsay ran a great Baltimore franchise into the ground and ultimately moved it, Steve Rosenbloom says Georgia — who later married Dominic Frontiere — has destroyed the once-great Rams franchise.
And now she is talking about moving that.
“My dad drowned in April of 1979,” Steve said, “and Georgia inherited the Rams. I was her general manager.
“We had all the players signed early and in August of ’79, during training camp, she wanted me to quit. She didn’t want anybody around who was close to Carroll Rosenbloom. I made her fire me.
“That season the Rams went to the Super Bowl. [They lost to the Steelers, 31-19, in Pasadena before 103,985.] And she dismantled the organization.
“Now the Rams can’t win and they can’t draw and they’ve told everybody they want to move. How many tickets are they going to sell now?
“When you have a lousy team and you’re not involved in the community, you’re not going to draw. She’s blaming everybody but herself.
“All the Colts did was win when we were in Baltimore in the ’50s and through the ’60s. We were heavily involved in the community. We had the Colt Corrals and the Colt Associates.
“In all these years I’ve never seen fans anywhere as involved with their football team as those Baltimore fans were with the Colts. But Georgia has never made contact with the community.”
Steve Rosenbloom says Georgia never did like Baltimore, that the place “wasn’t big enough for her. She likes Hollywood.” She admits she hasn’t set foot in this town since 1971.
Steve says the best thing for Baltimore would be for one of the groups that tried to bring an NFL expansion team here to buy the Rams from Georgia, but she has shown no interest in selling.
“I’d have sold the Rams long ago,” Steve said, “but Georgia can’t make a decision.”
Steve Rosenbloom, at 49, is in the investment business in New Orleans. He doesn’t miss the NFL, though he spent 25 years in it. He goes to a Saints’ game only if one of his three sons “really wants to go.”
“I don’t miss the game because of what it has become,” he said. “We used to have a great group of owners who were football-oriented. Today, they have used car dealers who’ve been turning back odometers for 20 years.
“The commissioner [Paul Tagliabue] is a lawyer. What does that tell you about the league? Tagliabue used to be the guy in the league office who told us what we couldn’t do.
“I was surprised when the league passed over Baltimore and awarded expansion teams to Charlotte and Jacksonville.
“Now we know that Jack Kent Cooke has been planning to move his Redskins to Laurel. The brotherhood decided not to hurt one of their own and go to Baltimore.
“The NFL doesn’t recognize what Baltimore has. What Baltimore has — good, solid, working-class people who love football — is exactly what the league needs.
“The league needs an Ernie Accorsi, and he doesn’t even have a job right now. They’re going after the wrong people. Ernie understands the human side of the game.
“America has to be a great country when two people like Georgia and Irsay can run a business and take an income out of it every year. It shows you what a grip pro football has on the public.”
January 11, 2016 at 12:26 pm in reply to: Prisco: Bengals' implosion straight out of the handbook on football stupidity #36970joemad
ParticipantJeremy Hill shouldn’t have fumbled….
and you need to convert 1st downs in the 1st half………
January 8, 2016 at 12:45 pm in reply to: Bucs fire Lovie, Coughlin resigns, which naturally leads to Fisher discussion #36829joemad
ParticipantHis fifth year was the turnaround. That was 1999. 13-3 and a trip to the Super Bowl thanks to that miracle special teams play. Then, one yard away from forcing OT for the championship.
When the Titans scored their 1st TD in the Super Bowl vs the Rams, Fisher went for 2 and failed. I thought about that failed attempt when the Rams played in Minnesota this year …In both cases I thought it was a gamble with low reward….
If Mike Jones doesn’t make that tackle on that drive, I wonder if Fisher goes for 2 again? He wouldn’t need to if he played it safe when Tennessee scored their 1st TD. I’ll give him credit, he fired up the Titans in the 2nd half when the Rams faltered in the redzone in the 1st half of Super Bowl 34 to put the game away…..
January 6, 2016 at 12:57 pm in reply to: Kroenke Building Stadium No Matter What (relocation thread) #36700joemad
ParticipantIts still fun for me, to watch a ‘team’
struggling through ‘adversity’ to reach a goal.
And its fun to see the unexpected plays,
and beauty and strategy and force of the game.So far, i still enjoy the game itself,
and the internet message-board conversationsyes, you nailed it….
I’m 300 miles from LA, would see the Rams once or twice a year in Anaheim and every season in Candlestick / Levi…… (last game I saw at the Big A was Buddy Ryan’s Cards vs Chuck Knox’s LA RAMS)……. it was tough for me in 1995, luckly Al Gore invented the internet and kept us engaged, long before assbook, twitter, youtube, NFL.com…….there was Rams talk, it was my entry to the internet…..RAMS was one of my fist searches on NETSCAPE.
Ram fans that I’ll never meet in person but read and chat with frequently. It’s fucking beautiful.
January 5, 2016 at 3:23 pm in reply to: Final stats: Offense 29th, Defense 7th, Spec.Teams 8th #36656joemad
ParticipantRAMS:
7th in penalties
2nd in the NFC in penalites
5th in penalty flags thrown.joemad
ParticipantGood stuff from Alyo.
I also think it will be nearly impossible to keep both CBs.
yes, can’t keep everyone, but a big part of the solid CB play the past 2 seasons is because the Rams have had a very good pass rush.
joemad
ParticipantwAndering…ya know. Like in Lost in Space.
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vFunny you should mention ‘Lost in Space’ – Dr. Smith’s catch phrase is particularly appropriate for Rams fans…
Dr. Smith used to be tough guy in the earlier Lost in Space episodes when he sabotaged the Jupiter 2 …. Space turned him into a pansy. I can’t believe the green lady had a crush on him…..
January 4, 2016 at 3:32 pm in reply to: Podcast 1/4 – Thomas and Balzer Those are like David Lynch Zombie audios. #36608joemad
ParticipantBefore I can even start to plot / plan travel next year, what are the odds we’re still in the NFC West next year?
Thanks a bunch.
1) I do not believe that the Rams will move conferences next year since the 2016 schedules have already been defined
URL = http://www.fbschedules.com/nfl-16/2016-st-louis-rams-football-schedule.php
2016 St. Louis Rams Opponents
Home Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina, Buffalo, Miami, NY Giants
Away Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, New England, NY Jets, Detroit
2) with a $500M relocation fee, I’m not sure that Mark Davis (Raiders) has the funds to formally do that unless the league helps.
The Rams will stay in the NFC west next year,
furthermore, In the long term, I do not think that the Rams will be affected by re-alignment if they move to So. Cal.Personally, I think the Raiders will share Levi Stadium with SF.
a) Yorks rent out that stadium to all kinds of events for additional revenue, (motocross, college bowl games, soccer matches, concerts etc)b) I don’t think that corporate sponsors in the local SF bay area will want to buy advertising in 2 stadiums in the same market. e.g., I don’t think that Bud Light will have signs at both Levi and in Oakland.
January 4, 2016 at 1:35 pm in reply to: Aaron Donald just broke J.J. Watt’s all-time grade record, and should be DPOY #36601joemad
Participantyes, that was a great play…. decent run back by Sims too…..I’m that glad Mason scored on that drive…..
joemad
ParticipantKeenum is not the most accurate and missed some throws… but at the same time, Quick, Britt and Tavon need to the catch the ball when it hits their hands…..it’s been years since the Rams have a had a decent receiver that can make a fucking play by catching a ball….
Also, and other double digit penalty day….. the lack of penalty discipline cost the Rams some winnable games this season…
speaking of penalties, shouldn’t PI been called twice on the Hekker’s floater to Marquez on the fake punt attempt or the horse collar tackle on Tavon? WTF… too bad Hekker didn’t deliver a better pass on that, but geez, throw a flag on that…. (BTW, During programe warmups, Hekker was under center quite a bit)
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ParticipantHappy Holidays
joemad
ParticipantIs there an NFL team that would even consider Nick Foles as a starter?
With that said will Cigs ever get a gig as OC.
Cigs – Foles was no Bueno…. The offense SUCKED
joemad
ParticipantO’Dell has a little bit of Cog
in him, i see.w
vMaybe, but Carolina kinda has an antagonizing fucked mentality to bring reactions out of opponents.
I remember when Bradford hurt his knee in Carolina. That game was getting out way out of hand prior to Bradford’s freak injury.
Carolina Panthers are somewhat of a dickhead team.
December 18, 2015 at 10:44 am in reply to: Rams: Great team or Greatest Team Ever? Bucs Post Game thoughts #35791joemad
ParticipantClassic Rams. Get out of the playoff race and start winning some games.
Pittsburgh, Packers, Vikings and Ravens…. all very winnable games this season……… it’s a shame. the Rams could have seized those for victory……
Rams need to win out, and Seattle and Vikings need to lose out…
Seattle is favored by 14 vs Cleveland……, just like the Rams were vs the Patriots in SB 36…..
Bummer…. I’d love to see a few more meaningful games…..
December 16, 2015 at 1:35 am in reply to: Gurley v. Martin? (ie. the official "can the Rams beat the Bux" thread) #35699joemad
ParticipantI wish Lovie was the Rams HC.
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