Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
Eternal RamnationParticipantShrooms grow wild in Florida . I have some experience in both shrooms and ptsd. http://www.naturalnews.com/041393_psilocybin_psychological_disorders_magic_mushrooms.html#
Eternal RamnationParticipantI guess to clarify my point if Martz doesn’t come to St.Louis Warner doesn’t get discovered.And Martz wasn’t dissing Warner he was praising him.
Eternal RamnationParticipantHe also flat out said he regrets
jettisoning Kurt Warner, but he also
made it clear it was a decision made
by the “organization.”I had a somewhat different reaction.
He said some things–a few things in fact–that we KNOW are not true. Simply know are not true.
For example, he described how he set up the Proehl catch in the Tampa game. Well we have heard Kurt and others discuss that game. The PLAYERS changed the play in the huddle. They altered the hot read on the blitz. Proehl was supposed to do one thing and instead they changed his route so he did another. Yet you listen to Martz and it is as if that never happened.
That was not the only thing he said that was like that. And in fact in terms of being afraid, I thought that’s exactly what Martz was at crucial points in his career. He did not break out of the shell against Tampa, the players changed the hot read. He was the one who drew back in instead of being aggressive against Carolina when they could have won, and instead he settled for a tie and overtime. Etc.
Every time there’s a choice to tell a story so it’s self-serving, Martz goes to self-serving mode. I wonder if he even knows the difference anymore.
Now there are a lot of things in that interview that have nothing to do either way with being self-serving or not, and those are great listens. But I know too much of the history…he changed some stories there, and let’s put it this way–he never changes a story so it takes the glory away from himself.
.
I’m gonna tread lightly because this is board war territory but when it comes to evidence you are talking about separate people recounting in a interview of things that happened long ago. You seem to value Warner’s version over Martz’s . When I listened I don’t actually hear anything that contradicts Martz. I mean if they changed it in the huddle in the NFC championship I can see Martz not knowing about it or I can see him remembering it different but it did not seem self serving imo. The interview was asking about when he was OC. He was up in the booth on that one. There’s a famous DV line from the SB video where DV says ” Whoa Mikey down here really? Okay” As far as him getting conservative he was slammed repeatedly for being so pass heavy against the cheatriots even though when I watch that game I don’t see Faulk doing anything in the few runs they tried , and remember they ran him ragged closing out Philly the week before. I never understood anyone slamming Martz for his coaching because the guys record was amazing. Imo Warner owes much to Martz If Martz doesn’t come to St. Louis and insist on moving on from Tony Banks I doubt anyone ever hears of Warner.
Eternal RamnationParticipantTo fix the offense imo you need to get Fisher out of the control of the draft. He can pick RB’s but otherwise his offensive picks are abysmal .
December 7, 2015 at 4:49 am in reply to: the way Foles is right now they have a better chance with Keenum #35219Eternal RamnationParticipantI don’t know if Foles will ever work his way out of this, whatever it is. The Meltdown.
And Keenum is not god’s poster child for consistent accuracy.
But Foles is much more of a liability.
I think they have at least a couple of wins left in em.
ASSUMING they get either Jenkins back, or Johnson, or both.
I decided to watch some good Football after the game today. I watched the SeaHawks destroy the hated Vikings. Zimmer calling the Rams dirty bothered me but today the vikes were called for penalty after penalty including roughing the passer and unnecessary roughness and the Seahawks if they get in the playoffs they could go back to the SB.After watching that game I went back and watched the week 1 Rams vs Seahawks . Looking at Foles back then and comparing him to today not even his play just his appearance while on the sideline. He doesn’t even look like the same guy ,he looks like he has significant brain damage and I am serious. I fear for his health.
Eternal RamnationParticipantny coach that says that was an acceptable effort can kiss my ass
The issue wasn’t and has not been “effort.”
It’s execution.
You can put in all the effort you want and if you can’t execute you lose.
Fisher was right about effort. It’s not the issue.
Yeah, its not effort. True.
But to ‘me’ the word ‘execution’ is pretty meaningless.
I put it up there with “we didnt score enough points to win”Its meaningless to me, because it gives no clue
as to WHY the plays are not being ‘executed’ properly.Having said that, i never get mad at coaches
for what the say or dont say at press conferences.
I mean, would we expect them to explain
the nuts and bolts of why the team lost.
I dont expect that out of coaches — i expect
broad meaningless generalizations. Thats what
Belicheck gives win or lose.
w
v“Execution” is a real thing. What it means is that while plays are there, the players are not, individually and as a group, doing what they’re supposed to on those plays…they’re not doing their assignments properly. It can be any number of reasons, including problems with technique, and so on.
It’s not one of those gray area dismissable terms. It has real meaning.
It’s true that you don’t always have a “why.” But because we don’t know why drivers go through red lights doesn’t mean it is meaningless to say they drove through red lights.
It ain’t no thing imo execution is effort , without the effort to execute you are just going through the motions. Effort is knowing when where and what you job is and making sure that job is done. Focus requires effort I saw a very blurry Rams team today and just for clarity,my problem is with coaching’s effort as well as a few of the players.
Eternal RamnationParticipantAny coach that says that was an acceptable effort can kiss my ass.
Eternal RamnationParticipantOne thing we can assess is the Fisher regime’s ability to acquire viable OL personnel.Fisher,Snead and Boo are the constants. A four year sample size to work with. Wells had existing knee problems when he broke his foot in week 1.
No that’s not true of Wells. He had a routine clean-up scope after playing every game in 2011. That was not an “existing knee problem.” The absurd series of injuries and infections he had after signing with the Rams—one of which sent him to ICU where he lost 40 pounds just before camp—had nothing to do with prior conditions.
Here;s what we can say about Fisher and Boudreau and OLs.
First, they both put together good ones several times over a combined 40 years prior to the Rams.
Second, they put together good ones with the Rams, when they were not held back by multiple simultaneous injuries. So for example, in 2012, after the injury epidemic in the first 8 games, they were relatively healthy and played well. That is, Jackson got 4.3 a carry, their sack percentage of 4% was the lowest for any Rams qb since the mid 80s, and they went 4-3-1 in games that included the NFC champ that year and 5 top 12 defenses. You can’t do all of that combined with poor OL.
2013 has a similar profile.
In each case, one neglected feature of their good work with OLs is the long list of recycled vets they used who had never done anything before the Rams and never did anything after the Rams…but played well with the Rams.
In terms of the injuries, that is just plain stupid bad luck. Nothing else can explain this: in the last 2 years they added 8 rookie/young linemen, and at this point, 7 of them have been injured. Yet only ONE of them had a previous injury history (Donnal).
A small percentage of Rams OL acquisitions had prior injury histories and it does not include Wells. Yet in spite of any prior injury history, the Rams OL continues to suffer multiple injuries.
The only explanation I can come up with for that is that sometimes random chance is particularly bad to you. And that beyond that there is no explanation.
.
I disagree whether or not it was routine there was a reason for the clean up and it didn’t materialize because of half a game in 2012.The infection ,actually has a history at the ED. Remember one of my favorite old Rams Jack Snow died from an infection. Martz had that strange illness in 2005. Yeah we can twist and contort back a few decades and find success but imo it’s just not relevant . And we can chop out stretches where the OL played better but the knock on this regime is consistency and discipline. How far do we chop this up ,I mean the 2009 Lions OL played really great against the Browns? 7-8-1,7-9,6-10 4-7 now . We could win another one but I wouldn’t put money on it.
Eternal RamnationParticipantOne thing we can assess is the Fisher regime’s ability to acquire viable OL personnel.Fisher,Snead and Boo are the constants. A four year sample size to work with. Wells had existing knee problems when he broke his foot in week 1.
Eternal RamnationParticipantRT Havenstein (calf) was full participation.
That’s good news anyway. That means Reynolds goes back to LOG. He’s not only better AT LOG he is better than any other LOG option. Only Wichman is a newbie. It’s a better OL. With Hav out, they had to short change 3 positions; now it’s just one.
Maybe Reynolds can settle down GRob and get Gurley loose for a change. Some of the holding calls are from as RFL noted last season GRob plays high and ends up pushing his guy down (not holding), to the ref it looks like a guy being pulled down and they call him for it.
Eternal RamnationParticipantYes if and only if they can avoid divine intervention
Eternal RamnationParticipantI detest this show but I can’t disagree on their assessment .
Eternal RamnationParticipantBottom line this coach doesn’t have what it takes to get there. The Cheatriots started a 4th rd. rookie LG and Free agent Rookie C in what was their eighth different OL this season and first loss coming at Denver in OT. Fisher is the problem.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI agree it don’t look like that but it does not look good and it could materialize in many different ways, if they continue to be two different teams Offense and Defense and give Teams a pass when the were horrible it could spell trouble and develop quickly.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI don’t know Jenks was vocal last week about needing help from the O and they got less this week. I am not convinced Fisher hasn’t lost em” already.
Eternal RamnationParticipantManion looked fantastic!
Umm…was he playing at garbage time…when the bengals
were in prevent ?w
vYes there is some humor carry over from the chat there.The Bengals did not have a healthy db in the game in the 2nd half so it was all garbage time.Foles has been so late on everything and Manion looked sharp in comparison hitting on the short game where Foles passes get there after the Bengals D has already chiseled the receivers tombstone . It was tough to watch but TA had some great plays out of the direct snap to Gurley (Wildcat). I fear the D has just take too many hits to maintain their status
Eternal RamnationParticipantMy highlight would be TA channeling his inner Earl Campbell breaking tackle after tackle on one run.
Eternal RamnationParticipantManion looked fantastic!
Eternal RamnationParticipantHappy Birthday NERam !
Eternal RamnationParticipantAn improved OL would certainly help but so far the OL has deteriorated each season for 4 seasons so I see no reason to believe Fisher will be successful in a 5th or 6th attemp.
See I disagree with that. There are long spates where the Fisher Rams OL was fine and played well—demonstrably so, numbers back this. But then those spates of playing well are surrounded by periods where they have multiple OL injuries.
Anyway it wasn’t majorly injured and so played well in the 2nd half of 2012 and most of 2013.
2015 is different. That’s just a young OL.
I trust these guys—Fisher and Boudreau–to build good lines because they have with the Rams and they both did before the Rams, many times each.
It’s just that a young inexperienced OL is going to struggle at first.
We just use different numbers ZN. Mine aren’t stats I simplify down to this, the higher the quantity of Fisher acquired Boudreau trained lineman the worse the quality has been. Yes they were much better in 12′ and some of 13′ dropped way off in 14 and now in the present hopefully having hit bottom this is a 100% Fisher owned OL .He owns the strategy behind the build, his idea to draft and play players that played lots and lots of games in their collegiate careers and the resulting record is his to. I would love for the graph to climb North for a decade but in reality it has been a steady downward trend for 4 years.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI was listening to a Martz interview from a couple of weeks back. Remember when he started it seemed like he had pro-bowl QB’s coming out his ears?Very QB friendly system. The Center calls the protection which predetermines the hot read. If the center was wrong they just lived with it.Almost everyone else puts all that on the QB so when they struggle with reads it slows and stresses existing problems like accuracy and timing. IMO this is on Fisher. His offenses all look the same with Titans and the Rams even on the rare exception they’ve been good it came down to extraordinary individual skills McNair, George , Johnson. An improved OL would certainly help but so far the OL has deteriorated each season for 4 seasons so I see no reason to believe Fisher will be successful in a 5th or 6th attemp.
Eternal RamnationParticipantHappy Birthday SDRam !
Eternal RamnationParticipantRams logic Martz playoffs 4 out of 5 years ( I refuse to count 05 as he was locked out after 2 games) fire him. Fisher losing every season consecutively record declining year after year, extend him.
Eternal RamnationParticipantWell that will save on the Direct TV bill.
November 24, 2015 at 3:28 pm in reply to: Hochman: Rams' Fisher Should be on 'Hot Seat' – Podcast #34648Eternal RamnationParticipantThere is no link Ag
Eternal RamnationParticipantFisher is generally in a mess these days. I don’t believe him because he has been disingenuous so many times but I can believe he was unaware of Keenum’s injury because he has been unaware of so much lately.
Eternal RamnationParticipantFlacco’s out for the season with ACL and likely more, the QB’s adding up this season.
Eternal RamnationParticipantI am surprised at the emotions over this game.
They had Keenum at qb after Foles melted down, and a young OL that was made even LESS experienced by having to replace (at this point) 5 different starters…Saffold, Brown, Havenstein, then add Williams (last game) and now Donnal to that.
Frankly I didn’t expect them to be IN the game and yet somehow, ugly as it was, they were.
Yet to me the frustration sounds like people who were expecting much more and got disappointed.
.
I’m not disappointed with the game it was better than I would have expected under the circumstances.The frustration comes from the realization that this will be another one of the dozen seasons with a losing record and it’s been seven years since Fisher has had a winning season! That’s a lot of losing and I don’t see that ending anytime soon.
Eternal RamnationParticipantwhat pole ?
Eternal RamnationParticipantQuick is 6’3″ long arms a former basketball player with a 36″ vertical, you really have to try hard to miss him by that much.
-
AuthorPosts
