Jarts, not darts.

zn wrote:

bnw wrote:

wv wrote:

Can Trump over-ride all that, if he wants?

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Yes, if he wants. Would depend upon if the decision had reasonable merit or if it was politically motivated.

Yes because Trump himself would never do anything politically motivated. He’s all about reasonable merit.

Depending upon circumstance certainly he could. I do not know all that would go into a decision to overturn or leave in place the COE opinion.

Agamemnon wrote:

bnw wrote:

How did the Rams get a TD? FOX switched the game to New Orleans with 10:48 remaining.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2016120406/2016/REG13/rams@patriots#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000750823&tab=videos

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2016120406/2016/REG13/rams@patriots#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000750816&tab=videos

SWEET! Thanks Ag!

How did the Rams get a TD? FOX switched the game to New Orleans with 10:48 remaining.

Israel wants to export Golan Heights oil via pipeline through Syria. Assad said no. Voila! War.

wv wrote:

Another View:https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/368122-mainstream-media-fake-news/

“It is called fake news and we are told it is dangerous. Maybe we can agree on this. But let there be no mistake – it is governments and mainstream media that have peddled fake news for decades. And this is being challenged.

CrossTalking with Patrick Henningsen, Vladimir Golstein, and Marcus Papadopoulos.”

Fake is in the eye of the beholder. Hildabeast loses and there has to be a reason other than she’s a criminal and a terrible candidate.

About your “let there be no mistake”, so very true. My wife and I wised up almost 25 years ago to the BS of the MSM and even worse NPR. At that time broadcast talk radio was in its prime and was instrumental in coalescing the ’92 Perot campaign. Perot would have won in ’92 and Clinton wasn’t going to risk another third party effort so the deregulation of the broadcast industry was passed allowing for virtual monopolies of TV, radio and print media in all markets across the US (1996). Independent mom and pop radio stations were quickly bought out by a few huge corporations in the secondary and tertiary markets solidifying corporate political talk radio like Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity, Horowitz we have today. Yet mom and pops played much more than corporate political talk and it would take another 10 years for real talk radio to reach a substantial and growing audience as it had back in the early to mid ’90s. However now it was internet talk radio.

Internet talk radio saw the return to listeners of many shows that had been denied them by broadcast radio. More people were on the internet. The computing power and the programming power had increased to allow a virtually identical listening experience as broadcast with the added benefit of downloading and on demand archiving of being able to listen whenever and now with wifi virtually wherever you want.

The MSM was still lying parroting a party or government lie du jour but now there was an intellectual sieve of distant and disparate voices to verify and challenge what the MSM said. It was powerful because it was person to person and very local. Howard Dean was the first national candidate to capitalize on it and Obama in ’08 was the first national candidate to be elected in great part by it.

The zenith has nearly been reached with the insurgency campaign victory of Trump (although death threats and collusion to switch electors or deny electors the vote in the electoral college is currently underway from the Hildabeast campaign). The zenith will be reached once a true third party candidate not beholden to the duopoly is elected. That time grows nearer should the people’s voice continue to be ignored.

The “fake news” BS is just another attempt to censor political discourse over the internet. Nothing more.

nittany ram wrote:

bnw wrote:

Mackeyser wrote:

Wow, partisan buzzkillary…. sweet.

We used to have William F. Buckley, Jr debating Noam Chomsky.

Our discourse has diminished to “Hildabeast v. Drumpf”

I fucking hate people, sometimes…

Partisan? Both Bern and Hildabeast are the planet saving all emoting free shit emails ain’t no thang democrats!

Sanders and Clinton are farther apart in their core beliefs than Clinton and Trump are.

No they’re not. Their core belief is their supporters are stupid. Hildabeast via the emails and Bernie supporting Hildabeast even after the emails showed his campaign had no chance.

Why don’t they like the term “Frisco”?

Mackeyser wrote:

Wow, partisan buzzkillary…. sweet.

We used to have William F. Buckley, Jr debating Noam Chomsky.

Our discourse has diminished to “Hildabeast v. Drumpf”

I fucking hate people, sometimes…

Partisan? Both Bern and Hildabeast are the planet saving all emoting free shit emails ain’t no thang democrats!

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I can’t now but I might just give it ago after halftime of the Rams game this sunday.

Mackeyser wrote:

I just don’t want to live in the Holy Christian Fascist Caliphate that substitutes for what was the USA. Well, that seems to be the plan, anyway…

I mean, you’re free if you’re a white male evangelical Christian.

But…wait…

If a few more state houses go Republican… you think Mike Pence won’t work with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell to use the Nuclear option in the Senate to eliminate the filibuster and then start passing and ratifying Amendments to the Constitution that MOST Americans actually don’t want, but thanks to gerrymandering, corrupt Dems and hard right evangelical Christian Republicans… we could easily see…

An Amendment criminalizing homosexuality. Not just gay marriage…but homosexuality en toto. Those statements are already on the table and we’re only a few state houses away from this being a reality.

An Amendment enshrining the permanent lack of privacy. Forever. Domestic spying will become not only the norm, but we’ll have gone from “we have privacy” to “if you have nothing to hide…” Habeas Corpus is already becoming a distant memory…

An Amendment which establishes that America is a Christian nation. Yep. That’s coming. BELIEVE IT.

I also expect everything just south of an amendment enabling the expansion of coal, oil and nuclear power with subsidies. Even as the problems with all of these continue to become more evident…and the business case for each becomes more tenuous in the changing economy (the economic case for innovation used to not just reside in Silicon Valley)… and the social and environmental costs are born including potential disasters (we have old nuclear power plants near major population centers. Indian River Nuclear Power plant is near NYC AND is near a fault line, so when the Trump federal gov’t forces through national fracking as is likely… Indian River isn’t capable of handling even a 5.0 earthquake. And it’s the same design as Fukushima….and NYC is within the fallout radius. What could go wrong?

I just don’t get it.

I mean…I do…and I don’t.

It’s being made abundantly clear that through shrewd political gamesmanship, this minority viewpoint will be attempted to be made manifest.

Based on the last few weeks and how the Dems are looking to corporatists Corey Booker and Kristen Gillibrand, two massive corporate hacks and basically an Obama and a Hillary doppleganger, respectively, I have little hope that there will be any progress in the 2018 elections. And the MSM will still be scratching their heads… “how can this be happening???”

What if I want to live with atheists? Gays? Lesbians? Transgendered people? Muslims? Hebrews? Hindus? Buddhists? Disabled (other than myself)? Black people? Hispanic people? Asian people? Middle-Eastern people (Arab, Semitic, etc)? What if I WANT to live in a diverse country that CELEBRATES that diversity?

I thought that is what America stood for. I thought that is what America, ultimately, after all the crap was washed off was about.

So, when the White Christian Caliphate legislation stuff starts coming…and it will… are those who are going to say that this post is an overreaction going to stand up and fight against it?

Or is everyone supposed to magically become evangelical white males?

Remember, I’m the pattern guy. This may not come to pass, but the pattern has been laid for it to happen. And forces are being put in place for it to happen. That’s a fact.

Well keep on calling the opposition racists, homophobes, deplorables, irredeemables etc. and see how that continues to work politically for you. BTW I’m not an “evangelical” white male. I’m Roman Catholic. Don’t have to be white or male or “evangelical” to share similar beliefs on this stuff and it isn’t as monolithic as you believe. Perhaps Obama can import enough Islamists in his final days to help solidify the voting block for the future?

No way the amendment enshrining the lack of privacy would ever be passed. Too many disparate groups would find common cause. Snowden and Binney have been very effective at getting the message out.

No way an amendment proclaiming America is a christian nation is passed with any teeth to it. In name only, perhaps, but the opposition would be fierce and galvanized over a pyrrhic victory at best.

Seriously doubt an amendment requiring oil, coal, nuclear etc. but guarantee the expansion will be great at least for oil and coal. So great that it will be impossible economically to do what Obama did to our electricity providers ever again. The public will refuse to bear such costs again. Such costs will prevent the economic expansion necessary to Make America Great Again.

If you want to live with those people then you’ll still be in luck right here in the good ole USA. They’re not going anywhere and everyone knows it. Stop acting like its 1000 AD or even 1950 AD. Again you do your cause more harm than good politically.

Nothing magical about work. Put in the time, state your case and most important of all listen to the voters. No slogans or celebrities or MSM tools blatantly lying to the people since all that is easy. In fact its so lazy as to be laughable. Its already thoroughly discredited. Trump’s victory proved that. You have to connect with the people, not the outliers of the people. If democrats can’t learn that they will quickly become inconsequential. Reelecting Pelosi as minority leader shows they haven’t learned a thing.

Rest easy as the pattern you see I don’t.

wv wrote:

PA Ram wrote:

I’m just not sure how this will change anything in a state like Pennsylvania. It’s electronic voting. How do they check that? If it was hacked or corrupted in some way wouldn’t the recount just show the same corrupted data?

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Well i like the idea of a recount. If nothing else it furthers the conversation about secure-voting and methodology etc.
It gives the local election folks something to think about.

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The standard should be nationalized and the standard should be paper ballot and the same indelible (for one week) ink we make others use in elections over seas.