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Of course the war was won but that isn’t the issue. Perhaps you and Katie Couric should do documentaries together? The issue was securing an UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. That is the issue. It was necessary to prevent a great loss of US ad allied personnel in the invasion of Japan. The japanese leadership publicly stated the fight would be to the end and considering the casualties taken in invading Okinawa and Iwo Jima, Truman had every reason to believe them. The decision by japanese leadership to try to use Stalin to get better terms with the allies was fateful. Stalin doublecrossed them to grab more territory. That isn’t Truman’s fault. The japanese ignored the Potsdam Declaration which demanded unconditional surrender or Japan’s immediate destruction. Truman also gave fair warning of the second bomb drop.
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bnwBlockedI don’t think wars are just or unjust. That’s dependent on the perspective of the combatants. And those perspectives change over time. Wars considered just at the time they were fought often become unjust as facts surrounding the causes become available, etc…
Interesting. However I don’t buy it, not completely. Take the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Truman had a choice. Ask his nation to endure what he was told would be 1 million US casualties in an invasion of the Japanese homeland, or drop two atomic bombs in an effort to force surrender.
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bnwBlockedThere is only one Debs. While I agree with his take on war especially given the neocon chickenhawks of today he seems to have forgotten the French Revolution.
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Are there “just” wars? Good wars? Bad wars? Is every war unique
or are there universals involved? Which wars were ‘good’ ?I dunno. But generally speaking, the poor get killed and the rich
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Göring:
Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or..
Gilbert:
There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring:
Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.” Herman Goering (wikiquote)Well you answered your own questions regarding universalities and war. Göring summed it up well. Joe 6-pack has nothing to gain from going to war and everything to lose. It is encoded in our DNA. The leaders lie and false flag their way to fear mongering the people to acquiesce to war. They were bottle fed as babies.
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bnwBlockedThere is only one Debs. While I agree with his take on war especially given the neocon chickenhawks of today he seems to have forgotten the French Revolution.
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bnwBlocked“I find it sad the US worker is not a priority of yours.”
What’s truly “sad” is that very accusation. Everything I’ve written should indicate to the objective reader that I’m concerned about the present state of the global economy and its impact on manufacturing jobs in this country. You may disagree with my analysis and the causation and remedies but don’t ever tell me I’m not concerned about the US worker-OK ? How about starting from an “adult” level-namely we are both concerned but have disagreements as to the root causes and how to fix the problem.
Your “There are no easy answers to this such as : Well use the tariff machinery. That’s merely simplicity for the simple minded.” sure reads as calling me simple minded. Also your supporting trade deals (NAFTA, GATT, TPP) put together by lobbyists and kept secret from the american people sure doesn’t support the american worker. Everyone knows its not a coincidence that since NAFTA over 5 million manufacturing jobs have been lost in this country. Those trade deals are not supporting the american worker, certainly not in flyover country. So go on call me and the millions more voters like me simple minded and slither your “adult level” quip in posts because I don’t care.
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bnwBlockedYeah, Denmarkians are happier and have a better quality of life
and they do it all better. Most Smart people know that. Its a given.Now the real issue To ME, is not whether and why Denmark (and other nations)
are Better than America — the issue to ME, is how and why the
corporate-media in America PREVENTS joe and jane amerika from KNOWING
this stuff. Denmark is totally completely uttlerly and forever-ly off the radar
in the corporate-media. They dont cover it. It might as well be Pluto.Now why would that be?
Why do only certain nations exist to the corporate-media? Iran exists. North Korea exists. Iraq exists. Israel exists. Mexico exists. Some others.
But nations like Denmark? The ones that have a higher quality of life — not allowed to examine that or look at that, or show the joe and jane amerika anything about that.
Strange, aint it.
Ask joe or jane amerika what they associate ‘socialism’ with and they
will say Stalin or Hitler. Thats all they know. Other than, “its Failed everywhere”.w
vI’ve seen stories in the media about Denmark and recently too. This one from 60 minutes was 8 years ago-
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2008/02/18/cbs-s-safer-u-s-should-be-more-denmark
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bnwBlockedPerhaps the Danes don’t have enough disposable income to travel given their highest rate of taxation in the world?
Far too many Americans don’t understand the concept of disposable income. They seem to believe, at least indirectly or subconsciously, that it’s what you have left over after taxes.
No. It’s what you have left over after you’ve taken care of your tax commitments and your private sector commitments. Both. So if a society, via taxes, gives you far more for your tax dollars, so much more that your private sector transactions can be radically reduced, you end up with more disposable income, not less. And that is the case with Denmark and the Scandinavian countries. It costs them far less, between public and private outlays, to cover their necessities, and their necessities include things we Americans probably think of as luxuries: Universal health care, post-secondary education, paid leave out the ying yang, and so on.
In short, their standard of living, when you add public and private expenses, crushes ours, and they make more money on average than we do.
bnw, seriously. Do you really think that just because you and your wife didn’t bump into Danes that they don’t travel?
We travel a lot. More than most. We don’t run into Danes. While it isn’t scientific, its interesting. Germans, Brits, French, Dutch, Japanese, Chinese always but can’t remember a single Dane.
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bnwBlockedFirst of all that periodical is very even handed-as it has been for years and years. It essentially is the Christian Science Monitor of the economic world. It is not a political rag.
Your idea that tariffs are the answer simply does not recognize its impact on the purchasing power of the American consumer especially those with limited income. All that will do is make consumer goods far more expensive than what they already are. When that happens demand goes down and when demand goes down we start down the recession road with even more job loss.
There are no easy answers to this such as : Well use the tariff machinery. That’s merely simplicity for the simple minded. The answers lie in global agreements whether they be in “fair” trade solutions and currency discussions with China.
Trump’s goals -much like Sanders-are laudatory but you must have actual doable plans to get into the end-zone.
Its ideology of free trade doesn’t work for the american worker. Tariffs will cut into the profits of those companies wanting to dump goods made offshore while protecting american jobs. The Economist never looks past the next quarter’s profits whereas losing manufacturing jobs has a horrific effect to the communities effected due to the loss of the multiplier effect. Here we live it every day. Trump wants the best negotiators for trade deals not the daughter of a former president whose only qualification is she’s the daughter of a former president. That isn’t simplistic. Its realistic. Its indicative of someone wanting to succeed for the american worker. I find it sad the US worker is not a priority of yours.
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bnwBlockedGood! JOBS JOBS JOBS! BTW I use a Windsor knot! (Personally I hope he would greatly curtail fracking based upon the geology of the region and potential threat to important aquifers as well as demand a thorough review of all substances to be used down hole.)
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bnwBlockedbnw,
I just saw that you agreed to that 4 to 1. Yes, I needed resuscitation after reading it.
;>)
Good to see we can have at least some common ground.
Greed can build and greed can destroy. Too many good companies have been weakened to the point of downsizing workers or moving offshore or closing due to managements self-serving greed. Golden parachutes are an affront to the worker sending the worst message possible. Outrageous salary compensation to management needs to end for publicly traded companies. How that genie is put back into the bottle I do not know.
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bnwBlockedbnw,
I agree that Clinton is a terrible candidate. I don’t want her in the White House or anywhere near it. Nor do I want Bill there. But Trump is worse. Cuz he’ll give us the same rotten, neoliberal economics, with the added irrational bigotry. Clinton is basically a Republican without the bigotry. At least professed.
Remember, even if Trump is this great populist savior — he’s not. He built his fortune beyond his massive inheritance by crushing the average Joe and Jame. If he’s this great populist savior, he still needs to deal with the Republican Congress with zero intention of letting him go protectionist, or help the working guy, or any of the things you say he will do. Ironically, if he really does focus on helping the working Joe or Jane, he’s likely to get far more help from Dems than from his own party, though they, too, love the status quo — with a few exceptions like Warren and Brown.
In short, if you see Trump as an idealist, one who will fight for the “common man,” hopefully you see that his own party will stand in his way. At least. And then you have the entire establishment wing of the Dems to block him as well. Again, they’re basically Republicans without the professed bigotry.
You’re missing the big picture. The GOP is evolving. Trump isn’t an idiot. He knows the establishment will try to the very end to stick a knife in his back. He will work hard as president to get his slate of candidates elected. The man’s ego won’t let him stop at being a president. He wants demonstrable success that grows HIS party and has the people listing him among the best presidents. He’s going to break so many eggs for that omelet it will be something to behold. K street knows it won’t be business as usual and their fear is reflected by the establishment of both parties. It is long overdue.
The democrat party is evolving too. Trump even taps into a large amount of that dissatisfaction.
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bnwBlockedI heard it is a Right To Work cake.
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bnwBlockedI’ve traveled a fair amount and I’ve never met a Dane. Same for my son who spent 6 months in NZ and spent much time with people throughout the eurozone but likewise no Danes. Same for my wife who traveled much of Russia and into Japan and South Korea. We’ve met more people from Germany by far followed by the UK, France and Netherlands. Perhaps the Danes don’t have enough disposable income to travel given their highest rate of taxation in the world?
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bnwBlockedThis is good. The more the establishment bashes Trump the more support he garners across the political spectrum.
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I dunno about that. There is a reason Obama never went all ‘attack-mode’
during his campaigns. He could have, but he didn’t. Now, maybe its
just his personality, but i kinda think the algebra favors a calm,
milk-toasty candidate in the end. I mean, sure the rightwingers love it when Trump is attacked and when Trump goes on the attack. The leftwingers (like me) dont care. We already sided with Sanders a long time ago. So who is left? Who will decide the election? The middle-ground, milk-toasties. And my ‘guess’ is, the algebra shows they dont like ‘attackers’ or bombastic-scary candidates.
I mean there is a reason Trump has ‘reined it in’ a bit, right? His handlers are trying to negotiate/maneuver/decide whether and how much “to let trump, be trump” i bet.I could be wrong, of course. I dont really follow campaign-algebra stuff, i just shoot from the hip based on my gut.
PS — i dont think trump is stupid, and i think its a mistake when people think his is or write that he is. I think he’s smarter than Reagan ever was, or G.Bush II. I do think he has huge blind spots, probly in foreign policy, but a lot of candidates have had huge blind spots and still won elections.
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vHe is being told to rein it in but he will always counterpunch hard when attacked. I think the times are so hard so many places in this country that even a good share of the otherwise milquetoast voter will demand change by voting for Trump. What do you consider his blind spots in foreign policy? He gave a prepared speech on his foreign policy a few weeks ago. The other day he did the same on energy policy.
Foreign policy speech before the Center for National Interest on 4/27/16
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bnwBlockedKeep it up because it is working. Just not the way you think.
Anyone who could possibly be bothered at all by criticism directed Trump’s way is already going to support him. Those who believe he shouldn’t be criticized are already supporting him. Those who want to defend him against criticism are already supporting him. Nothing we say here — or in any online forum — is going to change anyone’s vote, one way or another.
Again, can you describe his plans for the American economy? How, specifically, would he bring jobs back? How, specifically, would he help those workers in Tennessee and elsewhere? Through what policy? Through what enacted mechanism?
And yet his crowds get larger and vote total increases. Already setting the GOP record for votes with 5 states remaining including CA. The crossover effect is real. The democrat defection in the general election will be staggering. Same for independents. The people but especially working people are fed up.
Clinton is the same ol same ol with a vagina. Nothing really new. Totally malleable depending upon the latest poll or focus group. Her time has passed. She should have fought Obama in ’08 but became hostage to political correctness and greedily chewed that bone thrown her way of being Sec. of State.
In my mind Bernie is the biggest loser in this election. He refused to go after Clinton, especially in the debates for far too long in the campaign. The votes were there for him since the dissatisfaction within the democrat party is as great as in the GOP. He will close out the primary kicking Clinton’s butt with his only hope that she is indicted for the obvious blatant crimes she willingly committed that he brushed off as no big deal. Her being indicted is his only chance for the nomination but Biden will get the nod before Bernie. Thus Bernie too will fail due to political correctness.
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bnwBlockedHere’s an article from a periodical I subscribe too and have a lot of respect for-The Economist. It points out how our trade agreements have been impacted by the globalization of economy and not a result of any party politics in this country. Moreover, the article addresses how Trump’s protectionism will have a tragic impact on the very people you believe he will protect. It also provides a path to improve our job losses w/o losing the clear benefits that our free trade agreements made under both Republican and Democratic leaderships have provided. It’s worth the read.
The Economist and its ilk have had 20 years and all flyover country has experienced is job loss, decimation of tax base and empty techno-wonk politispeak promises every election cycle. We’ve had enough. The days of being able to sashay your ass to election via that D or R after your name are dwindling fast. Same goes for listening to the same expert crowd who have been enriching themselves via trade policies at the expense of those of us in flyover country. Tariffs are written into the US Constitution and its about time that power is exerted again. Look around the gravy train of the US dollar as the worlds reserve currency is fast coming to an end. We have no choice but to rebuild consumer products manufacturing here in the US.
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bnwBlockedand many more.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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bnwBlockedKeep up with the BS because it only makes Trump’s appeal greater at the ballot box.
What BS? I told the truth. Trump has never actually come out with any policies. You can’t possibly know what he would do to supposedly help workers, because he’s never told you.
If I’m wrong about that, please detail his plan.
Beyond all of that, I’ve left out the other elephant in the room. I haven’t even gotten into the fact that he is beloved by white supremacists and pathologically bigoted Americans in general, or that he talks like he’s Mussolini half the time.
It should make most people pause, the things he’s said about Muslims, Hispanics, women. But at the very least, you should be concerned that he’s never actually discussed any policy he would enact, beyond the soundbites “It will be great!! Trust me!!” and ““we’ll have so much winning, you’ll get bored with winning.”
Where is the policy, much less the specifics?
Keep it up because it is working. Just not the way you think.
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bnwBlockedGood riddance. I never liked him.
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bnwBlockedI feel photosensitive epilepsy coming on.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedKeep up with the BS because it only makes Trump’s appeal greater at the ballot box.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
bnwBlockedOr the $12 TRILLION (at least $2.5 trillion spent as of 2011) the government has committed to bailing out banks from the 2008 crisis could have been spent on those same infrastructure needs. Thats money already spent that could have been used to address infrastructure needs in the US with an additional $9 trillion that could have been committed. Thats your $3 trillion four times over. Trump is the only candidate speaking to the trade deficit and the loss of manufacturing in the US. Trump also wants to tax those companies that leave the US then want to sell their product in the US.
I think I read you live in CA? I live in TN. In this part of the US the states have been hit particularly hard by the loss of manufacturing jobs since NAFTA was implemented. Even so manufacturing remains a major contributor to the economy of states in this part of the US. From http://www.epi.org/publication/the-manufacturing-footprint-and-the-importance-of-u-s-manufacturing-jobs/
In TN,
Manufacturing is 11.6% of total employment. Manufacturing GDP as a share of total GDP is 15.9%.
In CA,
Manufacturing is 8.3% of total employment. Manufacturing GDP as a share of total GDP is 10.9%.
It’s no surprise that Trump’s popularity in my part of the nation is soaring since we want the hemorrhaging of our local, state and regional economy to stop.
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bnwBlockedI read this before. For Fisher at #22 did they change the writing at all?
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bnwBlockedI hope we as a nation have learned a few things over the past 35 years.
At least Ronnie didn’t get off on inciting violence through insults.
I trust Trump wants to get things done for working people. That alone is enough to get my vote.
This made me laugh out loud!
Because the joke is on you. Working people are fed up. Good jobs are what matters not the skin color or gender of a candidate.
I agree that working people who consider themselves republican are fed up. Fed up with their choices for the nomination so much that they vote for the loudest, angriest, political outsider on the ticket.
The outsider that campaigns on issues of concern to working people. Trump will get the votes of a lot of working democrats too.
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bnwBlockedI dont watch debates, but yeah that interesting.
Why no Hillary?
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vApparently Hillary agreed to debate Bernie in California if Bernie agreed to an extra debate before the Iowa caucus, which he did. Hillary has now reneged on the agreement I suppose since she has the nomination at hand.
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bnwBlockedThis is good. The more the establishment bashes Trump the more support he garners across the political spectrum.
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
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bnwBlockedI hope we as a nation have learned a few things over the past 35 years.
At least Ronnie didn’t get off on inciting violence through insults.
We have learned a lot. One thing remains the same. That being the left riots then blames others. It gets old but brings in the votes for those that the left wants to silence.
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bnwBlockedI trust Trump wants to get things done for working people. That alone is enough to get my vote.
This made me laugh out loud!
Because the joke is on you. Working people are fed up. Good jobs are what matters not the skin color or gender of a candidate.
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bnwBlockedI have yet to see you post any references at all.
Why should I? It wouldn’t matter with you. I know my family’s history but of course you know better!
Find your utopia and move there. Oh wait, it doesn’t have a name and doesn’t exist but you can reference it in a book. Nice. How’s that working for you?
Why should you? Because you keep making all kinds of unsupported claims, and I’m not talking about the one you just made about your family. I can’t argue against your family history, but I can argue against the reasons why you think it happened.
And I’m not trying to find a utopia. They don’t exist. I’m just talking about doing things in a markedly better way. Better. Not perfect. Nothing is perfect. But we can always do better.
Again, can you please describe the actual capitalist mechanisms by which you see it achieving all of these amazing things — even though I’ve demonstrated they haven’t happened, anywhere. Please describe what makes capitalism itself unique, how it works, what it does that makes it different from any previous system. And please avoid the lofty claims about its results. Talk about what makes it tick.
This dance is over.
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