Zooey wrote:

bnw wrote:

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Trump has been out front in promoting women and minorities yet he’s constantly called a racist. Thats why.

Oh, for chrissakes. He has said that the Mexicans coming here are the worst society has to offer. “When Mexico sends you its people, they’re not sending their best…They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.”

Never mind that Mexico isn’t “sending” anybody, that statement is appalling, and there is no way to get out of the fact that it is racist. And inflammatory.

He wants to ban ALL Muslims from coming to the US. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world, and estimates are that 70,000 – 100,000 of them support ISIS. That is racist.

So he employs some Latinos.

That’s supposed to exonerate him from charges of racism?

Hell, plenty of plantation owners employed black people after the Civil War.

Mexico IS sending people across the border. The Mexican government wants the US$$$$ sent back to Mexico to prop up their economy.

When the FBI states that they can’t vet these people then a timeout is justified until they can. Trump also asks why doesn’t the countries in that part of the world take in these refugees?

Keep up with the racism stuff because it doesn’t work any more.

wv wrote:

bnw wrote:

Trump has been out front in promoting women and minorities yet he’s constantly called a racist. Thats why.

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OK, i get where you are coming from. And fwiw, I am not one of the ones banging the “trump is a racist” drum. I suspect he is much more of a “nationalist” than a racist. But then Nationalism is as loathsome to me as racism.

I think we will see all kinds of stories about Trump NOT being a racist because he hired a new PR guy a coupla weeks ago, and his new handlers are trying to repackage him as ‘kinder and gentler’ and more sensitive. Its typical political crappolla, and it may or may not work.

I’d like to see Trump judged solely on his POLICIES btw. I dont get into the “hes a racist” and “he’s a sexist” stuff. I do think there’s “something” there, but I think he’s a mixed bag on race/sex stuff.

I think you will agree, Trumps biggest problem is to expand outside his “white male” base. He’s gonna have to convince some women and minorities he’s not a sexist/racist.

What do you think of Trumps recent conversion to evangelical-jesus-luv ? Surely, you dont buy into that ?

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His promoting women to unheard of positions of power within the building contractor community dates back to the early ’80s. His breaking barriers within the country club set was done so at risk of becoming a pariah within that set. That sets him far apart from those that risk nothing within their circle.

Sure he’s a nationalist. Every president should be.

You say you think theres something there that he’s a sexist despite his record promoting women to jobs of substance? Despite the New York Times hit piece that utterly failed to portray him as a sexist? You know the 20 page hit piece that so enraged the woman highlighted that she called a press conference to denounce the hit piece and the authors who she claimed lied to her about the hit piece? Could it simply be that he is rich and when single likes to date gorgeous looking women? Oh the horror.

Trump’s biggest challenge will be to stay on topic that Hildabeast is a liar and the justice system is to hold we to task not she. That hypocrisy crosses all hyphenated political divisions and invades peoples soul like a devouring parasite out only for Number 1. I called it a few days ago that if she got a pass on the slam dunk crimes committed in the email scandal that Trump will win in November.

I do not believe Trump is a particularly religious man and I suspect he is playing for a particular crowd.

wv wrote:

bnw wrote:

Now now lets just drag that timeline forward 100 years since the democrats were flagrantly racist in the 1950s too. Sen. Byrd wasn’t alone in your state.

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Absolutely. The Duplicat Party and Replicant Party were both full
of racists.

I can focus on both. Why do you only focus on half of the problem?

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Trump has been out front in promoting women and minorities yet he’s constantly called a racist. Thats why.

wv wrote:

Well, even if one enters the reality-tunnel of that writer, and even if one tries to find some logic in his article, it doesn’t demonstrate that Trump is not a racist. I mean, for example, one could love Jews and still be anti-muslim, right?

Also this: “…the American Left was on-record supporting slavery, segregation, lynching and, as noted by historians…”

Linking the so-called ‘left’ to slavery and lynching is kinda meaningless because it lacks any context. I mean in the 1850’s you had all kinds of mainstream people supporting slavery. It wasn’t a ‘left vs right’ thing. And in the 1910’s and 20’s you had plenty of Dems and plenty of Reps supporting lynching of minorities. It wasn’t a ‘left vs right’ thing. It was an American thing.

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Now now lets just drag that timeline forward 100 years since the democrats were flagrantly racist in the 1950s too. Sen. Byrd wasn’t alone in your state.

waterfield wrote:

NewMexicoRam wrote:

Zooey wrote:

It’s out.

I didn’t see that. Thanks. Will be interesting if there’s some reports on the content of those e-mails.
Comey’s commentary was strange. He says there isn’t anything but careless handling of the server, but the law seems to include that as a means to prosecute. Think the Hillary/Bill hit man team had any pressure on Comey? I’m being somewhat facetious, but Comey probably knows more about that history than we do. He just sounded conflicted, maybe he was told to stop the process?

No-the law does not include “carelessness” as a crime. What’s needed is the “mens rea” to prosecute-meaning a criminal “intent” to harm another or another’s property-in this case the U.S. There never has been any such evidence uncovered. At best this may go to competency but most certainly not criminal behavior. We don’t throw people to the gallows for doing stupid things. If she used her personal emails to keep abreast of stuff that may have been classified material-that was stupid not criminal.

BS. Deleting emails is destroying government property. Extreme carelessness is a criminal offense for we but not for she. That includes all who participated in the email scandal which includes Obama.

zn wrote:

wv wrote:

…still wont make a dent in the
political situation, coz people are afraid.

Actually.

More than one study has shown that fear of crime leads to increased backing for gun control.

Interesting. Fear of crime. Not fear of gun crime. Gun control but not crime control.

Billy_T wrote:

But why, bnw, would you think Trump has any intention of helping working people? He has absolutely no history of doing so. None. In fact, it’s quite the opposite. He’s made his fortune from screwing them over, and outsources the vast majority of his own manufacturing jobs.

He calls for steep tax cuts on the rich, which means he will make a fortune from his own government policies. He will personally be enriched by his actions. He calls for a top rate of 25%, which will net him millions of extra dollars a year. Plus, no more estate tax, which will net his children tens of millions extra.

There is no evidence in the history of American economics whereby tax cuts for the rich have ever — and I mean ever — helped working people. The rich have always just kept that money and increased the gap between themselves and their workers. There is absolutely no case in our history wherein tax cuts for the rich have resulted in a decrease in the gap between rich and poor.

Seriously, why do you have such faith in him? What has he ever done to earn your trust?

He hasn’t lied to me. He hasn’t enriched himself via government ‘service’. He stands for much of the Buchanan 2000 agenda which has been proven to be prescient. People have had enough.