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March 27, 2020 at 6:25 pm in reply to: Senate Democrats block mammoth coronavirus stimulus package #113072Billy_TParticipant
If this doesn’t wake up Americans, nothing will…
The veil has been lifted permanently. Will Americans even see this?
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No, the Veil has not been lifted. Leftists already knew all this.
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vWell, WV, I don’t want to get into a virtual argument with you, that might lead to virtual fisticuffs, cuz right now I definitely can’t take a punch.
;>)
Had a second round of eye (retinal tear) surgeries this week (Wednesday and today), and when I awoke from a nap this afternoon, took off the bandage, the eye looked like I had lost a fight with Deacon Jones.
Anyway . . . you and I are saying close to the same thing. I’m saying external reality is X, that there’s no excuse now for anyone to still believe it’s not X, and then asked if the rest of America will finally see X, cuz the veil on that reality has clearly been lifted once and for all. I didn’t say they necessarily see the lifting of the veil, etc.
And I know leftists already know X, being a leftist meself. I know that the capitalist system has engaged in ever-successful gaslighting, which gets more and more pernicious by the minute.
But this latest pandemic and response are different. This makes it abundantly clear that trillions of dollars can be made to magically appear yet again to “save the economy,” but money wasn’t available before when people were (and still are) starving, homeless, without medical care, etc. etc.
Anyway, the latest polling, apparently, has Trump over 50% for the first time in his presidency. Which tells us No, they won’t see the lifting of the veil. And, it tells me, more than half of this nation has lost its mind.
Billy_TParticipantGood news, for a change!
If the Ravens said no cuz of his ankle, I hope the Rams take sufficient precautions for him and work him into the lineup slowly, carefully.
Since they obviously didn’t expect to have him at all, one would think they could go slow, etc.
Anyway, I think this also opens up their drafting a bit too, as others have no doubt already mentioned.
Perhaps concentrate on O-line, Edge or ILB instead?
Great locker-room presence. Glad he’s back.
March 26, 2020 at 2:34 pm in reply to: Senate Democrats block mammoth coronavirus stimulus package #112994Billy_TParticipantGEEEZ. Whadda buncha #@)#$&.
So…$2.2 trillion, and the consensus on the thing is just…not even debatable. The only two points that held it up was the TRIVIAL amount of money given to people who ARE UNEMPLOYED, and the amount of oversight on the corporate slush fund. Those are the only things they argued about. Complete agreement on everything else, including the $500 billion slush fund.
Republicans are worried that a few people might get a couple hundred bucks more than they ordinarily would.
And Democrats fight for the pretense of oversight like they had for TARP which was next to useless.
And the Republicans…I mean…long gone is any pretense that they care about how much money the government spends. The emperor has no clothes on that, even if they cynically play that song come election season. They don’t care about the deficit. Not in real life. That’s obvious.
So…what does that SAY about their quibbling over a hundred bucks? They aren’t motivated by fiscal restraint. So…what actually motivates them to fight over this paltry sum of money?
They. Have. CONTEMPT. For. Poor. People.
Abject contempt. They WANT them to suffer. Even if that isn’t in their conscious thought – and I’m sure they would deny it. But you tell me…play devil’s advocate for me…tell me what other motive could possibly fill in the blank for why they fought over that number. Because it wasn’t about the cost to the government.
They WANT people to go back to work even though they know it’s life-threatening for people to do that, and will overwhelm our health care professionals. They don’t care. They need the engines to keep stimulating their wealth. That is their highest priority.
And Graham! Attacking nurses – NURSES! – during a pandemic!
This is the Great USA. This is Our Country.
And everybody here knows them. I’m screaming at all my friends who already know this. Fuck these people, man.
If this doesn’t wake up Americans, nothing will.
They found a way to come up with trillions — with more to come — to bail out corporate America, again. But for generations, we were told there was nothing we could do about mass poverty, hunger, homelessness, medical bankruptcies, permanent barriers to higher ed for the poor, permanent barriers to housing, living wages, etc. etc. We apparently can’t do anything about the environment, dead zones in our oceans, etc. etc. No money. None. Supposedly.
Obviously, if we can find this money now — and money has always been a fiction, an arbitrarily defined, artificially created, totally fictitious representation of “value” — we could have found it to end poverty and all the things mentioned above.
And, just to be clear: I don’t mean tagging money to gold. I see that as basing one fictitious value on another fictitious value. I’m saying We the People need to take control of all of our fictions and make them work for us in reality.
The veil has been lifted permanently. Will Americans even see this?
Billy_TParticipantThis appears to be a rising movement on the right. Glenn Beck is getting in on the act:
‘I would rather die than kill the country’: The conservative chorus pushing Trump to end social distancing
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/25/coronavirus-glenn-beck-trump/
March 25, 2020 at 10:23 am in reply to: Trump’s “flatter me first” extortion/protection schemes are killing us. #112929Billy_TParticipantIn case it wasn’t clear from the context:
All the words in the above rant are me own. They’re not in the article. I just posted that link for anyone interested in reading one recent provocation for that rant.
Billy_TParticipantUn-fricken-believable.
First off, as you guys know, this pandemic impacts all ages. The first reports that it was just us old fogies at risk have been debunked.
There is no “grandparents sacrifice themselves for the good of capitalism” possibility. Nor should there be. Obviously, the two psychopaths on display there are really saying, Fuck the poor, fuck the working class, fuck even the middle class, let’s get back to work fluffing up rich people again [cuz we’re rich and we depend of workers to stay rich].
Trump said yesterday that he wants to end social distancing policies in two weeks — against advice from medical professionals worldwide, even in his own administration. And to make it all the worse, he wants us all to feel sorry for him for his own supposed massive sacrifices . . . whining that no one thanked him for not taking a salary, and whining even more how he supposedly lost billions to run for the presidency . . . This in the middle of a presser on the pandemic . . . This in the midst of questions regarding the national response to the pandemic.
He knew about all of this back in January and did nothing. Hid it from Americans to the extent possible. And now he’s so worried about his own finances and his own chance for reelection, that he wants us to work ourselves to death on behalf of capitalism and capitalists, regardless of how many die.
Worst. President. Evah. And given our history, that’s saying something.
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Billy_TParticipantGlad ya like it, WV.
:>)
It is really well done, and the “politics,” as you noted, is seamlessly integrated. Works within the context of the show. So it’s not a “pamphlet.” It’s not trying to hit us over the head with this. It’s actually “art,” at least relative to other TV shows.
Looking forward to working my way through all the seasons.
March 24, 2020 at 12:18 pm in reply to: Senate Democrats block mammoth coronavirus stimulus package #112888Billy_TParticipantKrystal Ball: Suspend capitalism NOW, and do not resuscitate”
As the young kids used to say, OMG!!
I did not know Krystal was an anticapitalist!! — or at least “born again.”
That was an awesome opening, though her conservative co-host doesn’t sound like he’s there with her.
Loved her rant. Spot on!
I know she didn’t have time to get into a host of things . . . but, obviously, another huge reason to dump capitalism forever is that it doesn’t do prevention. It can’t make money on that. It can’t make money on rainy-day stockpiles. It must sell, sell, sell, world without end. And, of course, that leads to more pollution, waste, extinction of wildlife and eco-systems and further acceleration climate change . . . . which will, in turn, produce more pandemics, with ever greater lethality and scope.
I know I’m terrible at conveying stuff like the above, and I know I’m just singing to the choir . . . but we need to choose:
Capitalism or the planet. We can’t have both. They’re intrinsically, permanently at (deadly) odds.
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Billy_TParticipant…is what the Fox News folks and rightwing-propaganda will focus on. Donald Trump valiantly tried to lead the nation, but the big-gubmunt-bureaucracy failed us….
That won’t fly. A president is in a position to streamline all that and get it running to face a crisis.
As it stands he’s still insisting that states buy their own supplies even while the Feds bid against them.
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Well it wont fly with people living in a reality-based-world.
How many people is that?
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vAs Hamlet said,
ay, there’s the rub!
Billy_TParticipantbtw, off-topic sidenote:
Have you ever visited Scott Nearing’s (Goodlife center) farm in Maine? It’s in Brooksville, I think. I’d link to the site but it seems to be down.
Hat tip again to WV.
Billy_TParticipant…is what the Fox News folks and rightwing-propaganda will focus on. Donald Trump valiantly tried to lead the nation, but the big-gubmunt-bureaucracy failed us….
That won’t fly. A president is in a position to streamline all that and get it running to face a crisis.
As it stands he’s still insisting that states buy their own supplies even while the Feds bid against them.
I don’t know, ZN. I think he’s gonna get away with this, at least with his diehard base.
He spent more than three years setting them up to believe that he was at the mercy of the deep state, that it was out to get him, that he was its victim. I think it’s baked into the cake now that Trump will be seen as deserving credit for all “wins,” despite the gubmint’s supposed efforts to take him down, and bears no responsibility for any “bad stuff.”
In some major league mind-jujitsu, he’s somehow convinced his base that, in a sense, he’s not actually the head of the Executive, with all the attendant powers, that he remains a powerless outsider, who “succeeds” on sheer strength of will and fortitude. Or, cuz, he’s been sent by god.
Best. Gaslighting. Evah.
Billy_TParticipantExcellent video by Klein.
I wish she were an American. She would make an awesome president.
At the very least, the Dems should put her in charge of the Interior Department or the EPA, if they win.
Billy_TParticipantI’m calling on the Federal Government to nationalize the medical supply chain.
The Federal Government should immediately use the Defense Production Act to order companies to make gowns, masks and gloves.
Currently, states are competing against other states for supplies.
— Andrew Cuomo
The capitalist system is obviously useless in a crisis like this. It’s set up to “compete” with everyone for resources, money, etc. etc. Instead of all hands on deck, its guiding ethos and everyone row against each other, in different directions.
Singing to the choir, I know. But it really, really pizzes me off.
It can’t make money in prevention. It actually loses money when we prevent catastrophes which it exploits. It can’t make money building up “rainy day” resources/stockpiles. It has to sell, sell, sell!! It can’t make money, cooperatively, working for the common good, which almost always means leaving stuff in the Commons, for public use, instead of private gain.
It created this crisis and it doesn’t even want to resolve it. No percentage in it, as that parallel world gangster once said on Star Trek.
March 22, 2020 at 11:51 am in reply to: The historical record for capitalism is utterly appalling. #112807Billy_TParticipantThanks, Nittany
Did not know about that particular case.
It fits the pattern, of course.
But what astounds me is the fierce clinging to a system that does that, routinely, and built its fortunes literally on the bones of hundreds of millions of human beings, their pain, their misery, their lost hopes, and countless wildlife.
Billy_TParticipantMy parents are gone. In 1999 and 2005, respectively. Very few relatives from the previous generation are still around, and I miss them more than I can express. Have siblings, and they have families. Like the rest of youze guys, I worry about all of them.
I’m in my 60s now, with chemo treatments, off and on, since 2003. Mostly on. Currently on “maintenance chemo” every other month. Last full-on flareup was in 2018. Hope it stays that way . . . knock on wood, etc.
Recently, have had multiple surgeries for both eyes. This happened prior to the pandemic, and my last chemo treatment was last month. I don’t know much things will change in the future, medically . . . but I’m guessing those changes will accelerate. Whole new world likely, along those lines.
Stay safe, everyone.
March 21, 2020 at 8:53 am in reply to: The historical record for capitalism is utterly appalling. #112737Billy_TParticipantWV,
Even more great quotes.
I’ve added Nearing to my personal pantheon of leftist greats.
March 21, 2020 at 8:52 am in reply to: The historical record for capitalism is utterly appalling. #112736Billy_TParticipantQuick note on that creation of free time.
This is yet one more proof that the USSR was never “socialist.” It was state capitalist. They did create more free time via production innovations, but that was folded back into the drive for more and more and more production. Workers didn’t work less. They often worked more after those “innovations.”
So the powers that be in the USSR ignored Marx (and 99% of leftist tradition) on the subject, cuz Marx thought a ton of extra time would be the norm for a socialist society, and that achieving that free time was baked in as part of the goal. A major rationale for changing systems in the first place.
Keynes thought a well-regulated capitalist system would eventually do this too, ironically.
Trouble was, he forgot about the purpose of capitalism, and its mechanism for getting there:
Make capitalists richer and richer and richer, via ever greater collections of unpaid labor hours. You can’t do that if you hand labor savings back to workers. In the USSR, this just took the form of a political party acting as the capitalist commandeers.
March 21, 2020 at 8:42 am in reply to: The historical record for capitalism is utterly appalling. #112735Billy_TParticipantRe: “Lifting people out of poverty.”
I think the mistake people make…and it’s really dead easy to see why they make it…is that capitalism is obviously good because we have cars, air conditioning, microwave ovens, and smartphones.
Of course they attribute those products to capitalism because we didn’t have them prior to capitalism, and communist countries did not have widespread consumer goods available.
Why on earth would it ever occur to anybody that those things could have…WOULD have…been developed under another economic system. By and large, very few humans question the facts of their existences. You know…we have the entire human mindset to go up against (zn might disagree with that), but I just see humans as very limited creatures.
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Then there is all the doublethink and hypocrisy that is so common in humans. People just don’t think straight. They don’t question their assumptions. They are not even aware they HAVE assumptions. So…how are we supposed to get around when the entire culture shares an ideology and believes that they don’t?
I mention this too in my discussions about capitalism elsewhere. Most people hear the critique and immediately assume Venezuela!! The USSR!! And see this as some kind of personal attack on Mom, Apple Pie and the Flag.
I know you guys know this . . . but I tells ’em capitalism’s just one possible mode of production among a host of them, and its record of outright evil is unsurpassed. It’s also never mentioned in the “founding” docs.
I try to use this analogy (and usually fail):
1. You make custom chairs for a living. No employees. You do all the work yourself and receive compensation for your labor, per customer. You’re not a capitalist.
2. However, if you hire a bunch of people to make those chairs FOR you, appropriate the surplus value they generate for yourself, as if you did all the work, you are.
The first example, of course, scales up as far as we want to scale it up. It remains non-capitalist (and leftist) if we share the fruits of our labor, make our production decisions (what, when, where, why, how much, etc), together, democratically. This pretty much guarantees that everyone makes more than they could possibly make as rank and file workers under the capitalist system, and cuz it’s non-profit, we can charge far, far less per item.
In short, there’s nothing we have now that couldn’t be made in a non-capitalist, leftist way. Nothing. And in virtually every case, workers, consumers and the earth would be a thousand fold better off. As leftists, we’d start out with vastly different rationales for production. We wouldn’t produce garbage for its potential exchange-value. We’d produce what society needs as use-value. We’d solve problems together and work for the public good.
We’d also create tons of free time.
That latter aspect is key, obviously. Capitalism doesn’t do that because all of its “labor saving” innovations go toward profits for ownership. They never go to reduction of labor hours, per person, unless they’re unpaid.
A non-profit, non-capitalist, leftist mode could reduce them and maintain salaries as is. We wouldn’t have any incentive to redistribute the gains upward.
etc. etc
Billy_TParticipantThanks for these articles, ZN.
Have already used the Intercept’s on other forums.
Appalling. And par for the capitalist course.
Billy_TParticipantGurley won’t turn 26 until August. He still has some football in him. I don’t know anything about Atlanta’s set up, their line quality, their O-schemes, etc. etc. But if he accepts a diminished role there, he could really help them. A ton.
San Fran’s RBBC would have also been a pretty good fit for him. Glad he didn’t go that route.
I wish him well.
March 20, 2020 at 10:13 am in reply to: The historical record for capitalism is utterly appalling. #112694Billy_TParticipantWV,
I had never heard of Nearing before your post. Looked him up on Wiki, skimmed most of it, and, wow! He sounds like he was an amazing leftist. Lived to be 100, walked the walked. Courageous, etc.
I then looked him up via “Libby” to see if my local library systems had any of his work. They have his The American Empire (via project Gutenberg).
That’s on my virtual book shelf now.
You are a great resource, WV!!
Billy_TParticipantSad news.
He was a lot of fun to watch. Great talent, work ethic, athleticism. The NFL takes a tremendous toll on players, obviously.
Some Monday Morning QBing, though: I think the Rams have been too quick to extend several players recently. It’s not a major problem if it’s not a massive contract, with most of the dollars guaranteed. It’s often a great idea for next-tier players, for instance. As in, they should have locked up Littleton last year. To me, that would have been a smart thing to do.
But if you choose just a few players and give them the lion’s share — Goff, Gurley, AD, Cooks — it’s gonna come back and bite ya. It’s going to make it nearly impossible to pay quality players who may not be in that first tier yet.
It may not even be possible, given sports these days. But I wish the salary ranges were far, far less hierarchical. It would make for a better game in my view, and lift overall team morale to boot.
In short, I’m not a big fan of the “superstar” system.
March 19, 2020 at 5:12 pm in reply to: The historical record for capitalism is utterly appalling. #112648Billy_TParticipantI sometimes wonder if the way I talk about capitalism is even remotely adequate. Even words like “genocide, slavery, poverty, inequality” and so on can act as a way to de-personalize all of this. There are always individual human beings involved in that suffering, that torture, those chains. They have names, faces, families and so on. They exist in the real world, or once did.
History books can help us connect the dots, think about the Big Picture, and perhaps even walk in the shoes of others for a time, in our heads at least. But it’s really not a substitute for “being there.” It really doesn’t convey the depths of despair all of these poor souls experienced, and still experience, because of the capitalist system.
Hope all is well in WV. Stay safe.
March 19, 2020 at 5:06 pm in reply to: The historical record for capitalism is utterly appalling. #112645Billy_TParticipantGood quotes, WV, as per usual.
Yeah, gotta step back from all that, frequently.
Nietzsche said:
“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.”
(Probably not the best translation. Found it on the Web, etc. etc. Too tired to dig through my books.)
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Billy_TParticipantI was hoping they’d sign Floyd, but I think they wildly overpaid.
He was cut. That should have taken his salary down under 5 million, I would have thought, given his lack of production.
He’s very athletic, and has the length to be much better than he’s been. A silver lining is they didn’t sign him long term. In my overly idiosyncratic view, 28 isn’t such a good age to start one of those.
If his Wiki is correct, it looks like he came into the NFL with Fowler, but was two years older as a rookie. Exceptions galore, but I’d say he’s at his peak already. Not really an “upside” guy at this point, but who knows?
It’s a shame they’re in cap hell this season.
Billy_TParticipantI’ve been staying in for days, but will likely venture out to do hunter-gatherer stuff for groceries.
Hoping local stores are open. I think they’re gonna try to transition to online, personal shopper mode. Put in your order, drive over to pick it up, etc.
We’ll see.
Reading a lot, but also wasting too much time arguing with others online. Gotta stop that. I am doing my best, though, to suggest good books.
I’m reading one now in e-book form that’s in the world-ecology school:
The History of the World in Seven Cheap Things, by Raj Patel and Jason Moore}
https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520299931/a-history-of-the-world-in-seven-cheap-thingsAlso being a couch potato, watching some guilty pleasures like The Voice and Idol. I know they’re over-produced, and I hate that they try so hard to make everyone cry for the camera, but I enjoy the music.
And, as mentioned below, The Expanse is really excellent.
Overall, trying not to dwell on the fact that I’m in the prime risk group. I picked a bad time to stop drinking!!
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March 17, 2020 at 3:07 pm in reply to: Cooks and Gurley traded HOLD ON REPORTS THAT THIS IS FAKE NEWS #112488Billy_TParticipantTo me, if the Rams can get an early draft pick for either of them, I make the trade. Cooks especially.
But, as always, it’s a matter of “Are they worth more to the Rams than they can get in a trade?” I think in the case of Gurley that’s likely. He’s still going to be effective for them in short doses. More so than someone drafted in the 7th round, most likely.
I think Cooks is a tough player, and plays his heart out. He’s obviously extremely fast. I just don’t think he helps them where they really need that help: 50/50 contested catches. He’s not that good with those, or in the Red Zone, but it will occasionally surprise a fan like me.
It’s sad, but I think the Rams are in a kinda “rebuilding” mode right now, and I bet they didn’t expect that to happen this soon.
Billy_TParticipantI see that as bad news.
Obviously, we don’t know the inside scoop, what the FO tried to do to keep him, etc. But if they didn’t offer him at least as much as the Raiders, etc. etc. . . . I think that’s a major mistake.
He’s likely better than anyone else the Rams are gonna add through the Draft or their own forays into FA.
Not happy with letting Brockers go, either.
Oh, well.
Billy_TParticipantWhole Foods is apparently asking its workers to share their PTO with employees impacted by Covid-19.
(Paid Time Off).
Instead of just covering them out of corporate funds, Mackey, the CEO, wants rank and file employees to do the sacrificing themselves.
I don’t know yet if this is an order from on high. As in, from Bezos. Mackey sold the company to him but remains the CEO, apparently.
Now that this is public knowledge, I wonder how long before the spin and the cleanup on aisle 19, etc.
Billy_TParticipantI’m disappointed in the players who said Yes.
I think they said yes to more injuries, especially head trauma. I know it was never gonna happen, but I actually would have preferred a reduction to 14 games, not even the status quo of 16. And I would have gotten rid of the Exhibition Season entirely too.
I understand the players who weren’t making the “superstar” levels of money wanted a better deal. But for their own health, I wish they had chosen health and safety over that extra money.
IMO, all the major sports league should downsize their schedules. NBA, MLB and the NFL. But more games tends to mean more money, so that’s not on the table. From this fan’s perspective, fewer games would have meant better games and healthier participants.
Just my take.
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