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  • in reply to: round 7, pick 233: Jake Funk RB #129471
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    As a proud U of M alum, I love this pick.

    Funk came to Maryland with very high expectations. If memory serves, with the “athlete” category, and no true position. ACL tears in consecutive years (2018, 2019) derailed a very promising career. He likely would have been a Christian McCaffrey type if he had not beeen banged up.

    Worked damn hard to recover, and his Pro Day performance showed he’s mostly back. Has 4.4 speed, good vert at 38, and decent broad at 10.2.

    I think he can help the Rams, at least on special teams, where he’s a willing “demon.” Xavier Jones should watch out. Funk may end up RB3.

    And, given the name “Funk,” I thought this would be a good place for this recent discovery — late to the party as I may be. Easily one of the best post-Hendrix guitar solos in history, with Eddie Hazel starring, and all of 21 at the time:

    in reply to: 2nd round: Rams select Tutu Atwell WR Louisville #129405
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    I know the tautology is tautological, and all, and teams draft the guys they like, and not the players they don’t like.

    But if speed was their aim, why not Anthony Scwartz? He’s faster than Tutu, and 6′.

    I wouldn’t have gone wideout at all, but Scwartz has Olympic speed. Tutu is just fast, and his vert and broad are pedestrian.

    in reply to: 2nd round: Rams select Tutu Atwell WR Louisville #129398
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    Love his speed, but this is a dumb pick in the 2nd round, especially when the Rams have so few. You just don’t pick a player this high who won’t see the field outside gadget stuff. And at 155 pounds, with very small hands and short arms, he’s not going to get the 50/50 stuff, which they do need. I’m also worried he’s a fumble waiting to happen at his size.

    I could almost see it if they didn’t already have Woods, Kupp, Jefferson and Jackson, but they do. The Rams don’t have a problem at wideout. They don’t even lack depth. With Jackson, they don’t lack speed . . . and if GPS is a true measure, Jefferson is speedy too.

    They needed O-line or ILB at this spot, especially. Or, a freakish edge guy like Ossai from Texas.

    I’ve gone from thinking McVay and the FO were geniuses, to thinking they’ve lost their freakin’ minds this offseason.

    Gotta hope they find value as the draft progresses, but this is not an auspicious start.

    in reply to: Rams tweets … 4/19 thru 4/22 #129134
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    Yeah, I’m a fan overall of McVay. But from the position of an outsider looking in, he didn’t handle the Goff issue well at all. You just don’t solve a confidence issue by dragging down the player in front of the team, and it gets ten times worse if it goes public, obviously. It didn’t even work for (arguably) the master of that strategy, Bill Parcells. I doublt McVay is a Parcells-type.

    And I like Stafford too. I think he’s very good, and does have a better arm than Goff. My problem isn’t with the acquisition of Stafford. It’s the way it was done and how much was given up in the process.

    As mentioned before, Goff is six years younger, and not that far from Stafford overall, IMO. His relative youth cancels out that difference in my view . . . so the trade should have been a wash, basically. Maybe the Rams throw in a 6th rounder, or something, but no way it should have been a 2021 third-round pick, 2022 first-round pick, 2023 first-round pick, plus Goff.

    Yes, I understand the contract was a huge factor, but still.

    IMO, Detroit just pwned the Rams, as the kids used to say.

    All of that said, I’ve been a Rams fan since the 1966/67 season. That won’t change cuz of this. But I am, well, very disappointed, to put it mildly.

    in reply to: Rams tweets … 4/19 thru 4/22 #129126
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    I think I may understand now. The Rams strategy is obviously Spockian Eleveny dimensional chess. Vulcan Post-Doc required. It’s on another level from any other team, and no one but a true Queen’s Gambit quant will “get it.”

    So . . . no real problem at QB or so we thought. They had Goff, a guy they traded a thousand draft picks so they could move up and grab, and then another thousand draft picks to dump, with no real “issue” other than lack of confidence, which the Rams decided could be fixed by bashing him before they traded him away, thus radically devaluing their own asset . . . and now they sign a punter, when they have a Top Three punter already, one who may be HOF level, and they don’t sign anyone to play Center or ILB, which they desperately need, or anyone who can scare defenses into playing waaaay deep, or a Left tackle to replace the Father Time dude they have there now . . .

    As the Guinness commercial used to say, “Brilliant!”

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    We’ll likely never know the real story, of course, as fans, and not insiders, but it really doesn’t add up to me. Not at all. Why they gave up on Goff. Why he went from hero to zero in such a short time. And I don’t get why the Eagles managed to trade Wentz for a plus plus package, when he, arguably, was a truly “busted” QB and Goff wasn’t/isn’t, and Goff is two years younger.

    Not getting it.

    The Rams gave up a ton to get Goff in the first place, and then a ton to get rid of him. Total picks lost (plus Goff) has to be up there among all time screw-ups and lost opportunities.

    IMO, some NFL commentators seem to dismiss draft picks lost in trades, cuz they don’t talk about them as actual players you don’t get to add to your roster. Those picks could have turned into much needed offensive and defensive line help, wideouts, linebackers, safeties, etc. They weren’t just pieces of paper. Those are all lost chances to upgrade your team, in exchange for a far more narrow and limited chance to upgrade your team.

    To beat a dead horse. Not a fan of this. Not a fan.

    Goff is still Goff. They needed to work with him, build back his confidence, replace the loss of Gurley, and add a speedster who can also win jump balls. They could have done that with the picks they traded away, and better, more patient coaching, in my view.

    in reply to: tweets (Rams) … 3/26 thru 3/29 #128755
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    I’m pounding the draft-table for Johnny Steamroll, Bulldog Pancaker, or Wolfgang Von Trapblock. Just hoping they don’t run sub-5.0 forties at their Pro Days, or the Rams may be out of luck.

    in reply to: Fox, Floyd, Ebukam, Johnson, Everett, Hill, Reynolds #128378
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    Glad they retained Floyd, and sorry to see Johnson go. Very good player. They don’t have someone as good on the roster yet.

    Only quibble with the Floyd deal is his age. He’ll turn 29 in September. I think that’s a bit old for a four-year contract, especially for that amount. I could see it if he had been 26 or so. You want that big fat contract all going toward peak years, if possible.

    Of course, these days, who knows what those are. Brady is defying all the old rules and may well play into his late 40s. Still, if I could make the stars align just right, I’d save a big FA splash for someone a bit younger.

    Rams should be very good on D again, but losing Johnson does hurt.

    Hope all is well, folks.

    in reply to: what’s your favorite flavor of jam or jelly? #128058
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    Jelly ruined my peanut butter sandwiches as a kid, and I won’t ever, ever, not ever, forgive it for that.

    The only place jelly should be seen or heard from is in a donut. That’s it. Blueberry is preferred; strawberry acceptable.

    And I think this should be mandated at the Federal level, along with an end to shaky cams, and even the hint of a 17-game NFL season.

    in reply to: Kromer gone #127935
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    I’m not liking this. I don’t know enough about the various skills of the departed to know if that’s the major concern. But it bothers me that so many coaches wanted to leave.

    It may well be that the Rams can reload and actually improve the quality of the staff, though that’s not likely. Teams make “first choices” for staff and players for a reason. Second, third and so on, with exceptions, tend to be lesser choices. Surprises, curveballs, new starts happen. But that’s the tendency.

    Who knows who is at fault for this, but if it’s McVay, then he needs to adjust, fast. He needs to figure out why there has been this major exodus. At first, it was “Coach was on the elevator with McVay. Hire him!” Now it’s quite possibly, “We’re never going to be promoted by this guy. He doesn’t promote from within.”

    Half-time adjustments, McVay/Snead. Half-time adjustments.

    in reply to: Hav on the trading block #127912
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    So, what you’re saying is the Rams are about to go from a Hav, to a Hav not.

    Groan.

    ;>)

    But Hemingway couldn’t hav said it any better.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127846
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    It is shocking — that it happened at all, the rather blase reaction to it by some, and that 99% of insiders involved are still in power.

    I think that, pre-Trump, the reaction would have been wildly different. Across the board. Pre-Trump, the shock would have been seen and felt as a shock, a gut punch unlike anything the country has ever dealt with. I’d bet those in power would have acted accordingly. But post-Trump, it’s almost just another day at the office, and becomes yet another battle between the two parties on partisan grounds, as if they and we didn’t witness an attempted fascist coup. As if something else happened, but not that.

    Trump is likely the only person who could pull this off and fuck it up at the same time — although he came very close to completing the mission. The next group of coup supporters, however, will have “film” on all of that and will make half-time adjustments.

    America needs to pull itself together and jump out of the fog ASAP. Yeah, we’re all justifiably weary, sick and tired of Covid and the whole nine yards . . . . but the far-right is emboldened now, and they’ve had their dress rehearsal. They’ve also seen how many insiders have their odious backs.

    We live in bizarre and dangerous times.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127839
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    And destroying the Republican party would have inevitably led to all kinds of things: Green New Deal (a real one, too), Wall St reform, Medicare for All, increased wages and benefits for workers, stronger unions, less imperialism abroad, reduced police state, all kinds of things that the financiers of the Democrat party do not want to see happen. The Democrats NEED the Republicans so that THEY can be the leftward edge of the economic and political spectrums.

    This part of your post sums it up.

    In a sane world, the Dems, at least as far as their leadership goes, would be the “conservative” party. The GOP wouldn’t be a party at all. It would be several far-flung strands of far-right lunacy, broken up enough to be relatively harmless.

    We leftists would be the Opposition.

    I won’t live to see it. But that’s how things should shape up. The DSA and other left-wing groups could form coalitions to go against the Dems, and hopefully persuade progressive Dems to jump ship.

    I hope future generations get real political choices, and that capitalism itself is on the ballot. IMO, if it isn’t, and we don’t replace it with a sane, egalitarian, fully democratic economy, working within the limits of this planet’s ecology, we humans won’t make it very far into the 22nd century. Most other life forms will likely go extinct well before that. We’ve already lost half of that since 1970.

    etc.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127837
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    According to several reports, Republicans reportedly threatened to wield the filibuster against Biden’s cabinet nominees and legislative agenda if Democrats called witnesses in the impeachment trial. The reasoning goes that Biden and the Democrats want to get something accomplished, so they caved to the threat of the Republicans to immobilize the government.

    That’s probably true, but I still don’t think that is the real reason the Democrats didn’t call witnesses. If they had called witnesses, they would have destroyed the GOP. The tendrils in this were not just between Trump and his mob. The tendrils also connected to about 10 people we know of for certain in Congress who were not just complicit, but collaborative in this attempted overthrow of the government. There were also tendrils into the Capitol police, and possibly the Pentagon and the National Guard. But we know for sure Congress and the police. The damage the GOP would have sustained from eyewitnesses and participants would have driven a fatal wedge between the Corporate/Business wing of the party and its fascist QAnon/MAGA populist wing. And that would have finished off the political power of the right. The consequence of that would have been that the the progressive wing of the Democrat party would have filled that power vacuum, and the Democrats prefer Republicans to the progressives. They’ve made that abundantly clear over the past decade. We have all seen that the Democrats punch left, and negotiate right. And destroying the Republican party would have inevitably led to all kinds of things: Green New Deal (a real one, too), Wall St reform, Medicare for All, increased wages and benefits for workers, stronger unions, less imperialism abroad, reduced police state, all kinds of things that the financiers of the Democrat party do not want to see happen. The Democrats NEED the Republicans so that THEY can be the leftward edge of the economic and political spectrums.

    That’s my view as well, Zooey. Well said.

    The Dems also need the GOP so they can play their “Not as bad as the Republicans” game. I don’t think it’s a winning strategy, but they seem convinced that it is. I think if they hadn’t gone that route, we never would have seen the rise of the new right in America. No Reagan, Bush, Tea Party or Trump. The Dems could have stopped all of that from even starting if they had stuck with FDR-style governance at least, updated to suit circumstances as they unfolded.

    To short-cut all of this, if they had been the party of AOCs, from the 1960s on, the right never could have mustered a majority to push through Thatcherism, the Chicago School and so on from there. It’s really in the absence of proactive, progressive governance that the far-right can and often does take hold.

    Capitalism atomizes society. Turns us into competing monads of flailing desires. Which means, without a strong public sector, actively trying to improve lives, far too many Americans feel left out, alone, on their own, and in eternal competition with their fellow Americans and the rest of the world. Capitalism creates a dog eat dog world on purpose, cuz it profits off of that. It won’t survive if we all wake up and work collectively to better our conditions and society.

    The role of the two parties is to keep us separated, while gaslighting us into thinking we’re a part of something bigger.

    I wonder how many Dems or Republicans, at the individual level, know this is happening, promote it, go along with it, or fight against it.

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    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127819
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    The following is an Op-Ed, and by a centrist pundit. But it all strikes me as accurate, factual, truthful and to the point. It also points to the WTF nature of the GOP reaction,

    (I’m pasting the whole thing, given recent changes at accessing articles at the WaPo):

    Opinion: Trump left them to die. 43 Senate Republicans still licked his boots.

    Opinion by
    Dana Milbank
    Columnist
    Feb. 13, 2021 at 6:37 p.m. EST

    In the end, the darkest truth of Donald Trump’s crime came to light.

    As his marauders sacked the Capitol on Jan. 6 in their bloody attempt to overturn the election, House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy called the then-president and pleaded for Trump to call off the attack.

    Trump refused, essentially telling McCarthy he got what he deserved. Trump was, in effect, content to let members of Congress die.

    That damning account, in a statement Friday night from Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (Wash.), a Republican who defended Trump during his first impeachment, momentarily threw the Senate’s impeachment trial into chaos on its final day.

    Trump’s lawyers, in their slashing, largely fictitious defense, claimed that Trump was “horrified” by the violence, hadn’t known that Vice President Mike Pence was in danger and took “immediate steps” to counter the rioting.
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    But Herrera Beutler revealed such claims to be a lie. When McCarthy “finally reached the president on January 6 and asked him to publicly and forcefully call off the riot, the president initially repeated the falsehood that it was antifa that had breached the Capitol,” she wrote. McCarthy, she continued, “refuted that and told the president that these were Trump supporters. That’s when, according to McCarthy, the president said: ‘Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.’ ”
    McConnell says Trump ‘still liable for things he did’ while president
    On Feb. 13, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said former president Trump could still be held accountable within the criminal justice system. (The Washington Post)

    Her account wasn’t seriously or substantively refuted. On Saturday afternoon, senators agreed that Herrera Beutler’s statement would be entered into the trial record as evidence.

    Even knowing this, most Republican senators, as long expected, voted to acquit Trump, a craven surrender to the political imperative not to cross the demagogue. But the impeachment trial was not in vain, for it revealed the ugly truth: Trump knew lawmakers’ lives were in danger from his violent supporters, and instead of helping the people’s representatives escape harm, Trump scoffed.
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    Republicans scrambled to limit the damage of Herrera Beutler’s revelation. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, who had feigned being open to conviction, abandoned the pretense and, minutes before the Senate convened Saturday, emailed his Republican colleagues that he would vote to acquit.

    On the Senate floor, Trump counsel Michael van der Veen, a personal-injury lawyer by day, tried in every way to demonstrate his indignation at the late revelation. He shouted. He growled. He gesticulated madly. He pounded the lectern. He stomped. He spat out words: “Antics.” “Rumor.” “Report.” “Innuendo.” “False narrative!” He actually declared that “it doesn’t matter what happened after the insurgence into the Capitol building.” So what if Trump scoffed at McCarthy’s desperate entreaty to save lawmakers’ lives?

    Sputtering like the Looney Tunes character Sylvester the Cat, van der Veen declared: “Nancy Pelosi’s deposition needs to be taken. Vice President Harris’s deposition absolutely needs to be taken. And not by Zoom. None of these depositions should be done by Zoom. We didn’t do this hearing by Zoom! These depositions should be done — in person, in my office, in Philly-delphia!”

    Sufferin’ succotash!

    Laughter broke out in the chamber.

    “I don’t know why you’re laughing,” he responded. “It is civil process. … I’ll slap subpoenas on a good number of people.” He seemed to think he was arguing a slip-and-fall case in the Pennsylvania Court of Common Pleas.

    Republicans joined the theatrics.

    On the Senate floor, Sen. Ron Johnson (Wis.), an always-Trumper, was seen pointing at Sen. Mitt Romney (Utah) and saying “blame you” in a raised voice. Romney was one of five Republicans who joined all 50 Democrats in voting to allow witness testimony.

    Sen. Mike Lee (Utah), another Trump ally, interrupted a presentation to complain that the House impeachment managers “said something that’s not true” — never mind that the Senate had sat in silence during hours of falsehoods from Trump’s team.

    After Herrera Beutler’s revelations sparked a vote for witnesses, Senate leaders brokered a compromise to keep the impeachment trial from spiraling into endless discovery. Herrera Beutler’s statement would be admitted as evidence, but this would “not constitute a concession by either party as for the truth of the matters asserted by the other party.”

    Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-Md.), the lead impeachment manager, claimed that “this uncontradicted statement” provided “further decisive evidence of [Trump’s] intent to incite the insurrection.”

    Van der Veen, in response, howled about due process and fairness being “violently breached” — interesting words, given what his client did.

    When the yeas and nays were counted, seven Senate Republicans joined Herrera Beutler in her courageous stand, voting along with all 50 Democrats to convict Trump. The other 43 Republicans, some of whom, like McConnell, feebly denounced Trump’s conduct even as they acquitted him, now have the cowardly distinction of licking the boots of the man who left them to die.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127814
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    If anybody comes across a plausible explanation for why the Democrats stopped short of calling witnesses, I’d like to see it.

    Had to be a political-calculation. Nation was
    getting sick of the hearing. The Nation wants them to work on more
    important things.

    The Dems knew no matter how many witnesses showed up
    they were not going to get a conviction.
    And they knew no matter how many witnesses came they were not going to
    score any more points than they’d already scored, because the vast majority of Americans are not pol-wonks and dont watch this stuff.

    The Dems got what they could get, and now they want out.
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    v

    Good points, WV.

    That’s the likely rationale.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127813
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    Zooey,

    That makes sense. Protecting themselves while protecting Trump in effect. But it’s a perverse bargain. They wouldn’t be in danger if not for Trump. Not politically or literally. And that part puzzles me. The GOP, if it wanted to, could shut Trump down, along with his entire base, if they got on the same page against him, as they are now pretending to be for him.

    They’re generally really good at messaging and a united front, unlike the Dems. Why not kill Frankenstein’s monster while they have the chance? . . . and they had that chance dozens of times in the last 5 years.

    In my view, Trump’s base would have fallen in line with an anti-Trump message too, at least eventually. They’re all too easily led by the nose. Anyone who can be convinced that satanic cannibals with space lasers rule the world can be convinced of pretty much anything.

    Oh, well. My gut tells me that America, right now, is the most gaslit nation in the world, by miles, and perhaps all time. That’s not gonna turn out well.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127805
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    If anybody comes across a plausible explanation for why the Democrats stopped short of calling witnesses, I’d like to see it.

    Made zero sense to me. Was momentarily hopeful about the sudden change early in the day, due to new info overnight, then those hopes were dashed.

    Baffling.

    The only thing I can think of is there may have been pressure from the Biden admin to move on, to get it over with, so they could pursue their nominees and agenda. That’s about it.

    All of that said, 57-43 is a strong indictment against Trump, though the right will spin that as a victory, as “vindication.”

    I also can’t help thinking anyone who voted to protect Trump is the lowest of low. It basically says that protecting Trump is more important than their own lives, the lives of their families, their colleagues, staff, and their families. Trump literally sent the mob to kill them all. And, once they were in middle of the melee, McCarthy and others begged him to stop it, and he wouldn’t. He refused to protect the House and Senate from a potential massacre.

    The vote was so easy. Should have been 100 to 0.

    in reply to: 1917, the movie. #127804
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    I was channel surfing between commercial breaks and came across this movie shortly after the 2 soldiers began their journey in the trenches…. my channel surfing stopped… great filming sequences, I couldn’t stop watching it…

    I rewatched it again in it’s entirety… but you’re right Billy, it develops a similar storyline to Pvt Ryan…

    I need to rewatch it too.

    The trench scenes were great as well. The pacing, the sweep, and there were no wasted moments. Nothing I could see out of place. It all fit together and drove the narrative on. I also like that it started off with a twist of sorts. Won’t spoil it for others by saying what happened, but the surprise change-up worked for me. It’s more “realistic” that way.

    If you’re interested in another really good movie about WWI, you should check out “Joyeux Noël,” about a Christmas truce in the trenches. Based on a true story.

    in reply to: 1917, the movie. #127801
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    That’s one of several movies I’ve been interested in seeing. The films I want to see never come to Netflix.

    Our local cable company has this free movies thing this week. I think 1917 was via Starz. Have cut back on the streamers I had, thinking it was just too much, and there aren’t enough hours in the day, etc. So that came in handy.

    A lot of the early hopes for “cord cutters” have been dashed, as the market is nearly saturated with umpteen separate streamers now. Far too costly to try to get everything you’d actually like to see, cuz they’re on separate platforms now. So I dropped most everything, at least until next Winter, most likely.

    I’m always on the look out for free weeks and trials. The Criterion Collection has its own streamer now, and will probably sign up for that later this year. Krzysztof Kieślowski — had to use Wiki for the spelling! — is a favorite, and his stuff is pretty much never on any of the major streamers. The Double Life of Veronique is the best of his best, IMO, and I’ve been dying to see it again.

    Anyway . . . 1917 is really good, as mentioned. I also rewatched Butch Cassidy. First time in decades. It still holds up as excellent film-making, but my attitude toward the protagonists has changed. It was a lot easier for me to root for them when I was younger. Now, all kinds of “critical thinking” aspects kick in, even when I don’t really want them to.

    ;>)

    Still enjoyed it.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127781
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    Going back to what WV said about the difficulty of convicting people in a court of law, I thought Trump’s call to the Georgia Secretary of State was an excellent example. He knew exactly what Trump wanted him to do, which is why he leaked the audio to protect himself from his own legal liabilities.

    Trump said everything but “steal the votes for me, or else.” He walked right up to that line, almost crossed it several times, and did threaten him. But he may well have couched his rhetoric in enough double-speak to get away with it. I have no idea, but I do know he shouldn’t be able to.

    Here’s the full transcript and audio of the call between Trump and Raffensperger

    So, again, Trump set the stage for an insurrection, wanted it to happen, and developments over night say he and McCarthy got into a shouting match about Trump’s refusal to do anything to stop the melee. There is no question Trump used his own zombie horde as a battering ram to attempt a coup. It’s beyond obvious, based on years of whipping his base into a (white) army of the permanently aggrieved, angry and irrational.

    I think it’s imperative to shut down the rise of fascism in America, right now, this instant. While we leftists can easily multitask, hold feet to the fire all over the map, this should be our priority. As long as we have capitalism in place, we’ll have empire and corporate pols. They’ll always be there. But the fascist menace starts with that status quo, that corporatism, that love of capitalism and empire, and adds the ugliest of ideologies on top of it.

    If they “win,” we won’t have a chance in hell of battling against corporate power, which is at least possible under the rule of centrist Dems. At least the battle is possible. Under fascist rule, we’d all be underground, if not in more dire straits.

    Just my two cents, etc.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127777
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    These books scared the hell out of me, and should be required reading for decision-makers:

    On Fire

    THE UNINHABITABLE EARTH by David Wallace-Wells

    And Jason Hickel’s The Divide.

    (Probably can’t post three links together, so I won’t try.)

    The last one is excellent on global inequality as well. Actually, that’s its main topic, but it includes a great deal of info on climate change and environmental destruction too.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127778
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    These books scared the hell out of me, and should be required reading for decision-makers:

    Naomi Klein’s On Fire.

    THE UNINHABITABLE EARTH by David Wallace-Wells

    And Jason Hickel’s The Divide.

    (Probably can’t post three links together, so I won’t try.)

    The last one is excellent on global inequality as well. Actually, that’s its main topic, but it includes a great deal of info on climate change and environmental destruction too.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127775
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    I don’t pin my hopes on either major party doing the right thing regarding the environment. I know they won’t. To me, this is all about a comparison between the GOP and the Dems, not between what’s being done and what needs to be done.

    Relatively speaking, the Dems are better on the environment, by a significant degree, if we judge just the two.

    Not “good.” Not close to good.

    But better. Enough to save lives and forestall End Times.

    And until we get actual ecosocialists in power, that’s the best we can do, IMO. Better, not good.

    I know to take everything written about the two parties with a grain of salt, but this is what the Guardian has to say so far about Biden’s enviro record/plans:

    How Biden is reversing Trump’s assault on the environment The new president is focusing on seven key areas to reverse a legacy of environmental destruction and climate denialism, by Oliver Milman and Alvin Chang

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    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127773
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    All of that makes a lot of sense, WV. And I defer to your expertise in courtrooms. You have, what? More than three decades of it? Pushing four?

    So, yeah. I’d bet you’re right about that, as far as courtroom conviction goes. But to gain a conviction in an impeachment trial doesn’t involve the same level of proof or consensus, as far as I know. The standard is “political,” not criminal. It’s much lower, right? Just 67 out of 100 to convict, and then 51 to prevent future public office.

    I also think it’s the case that he never had to go beyond those weasel words. His base was already enraged to the point of exploding. Trump had fed them dangerous lies for years about “rigged elections,” and that he could only lose if an election was stolen from him. That goes back to before his battle with Clinton, and before this election too. He had them so wound up, he could have said boo and they would have stormed the Bastille.

    But unlike the French peasantry, they stormed it so they could keep King Louis in power, so they could have their great white hope in Versailles for life.

    Trump knew this. He knew he had a zombie horde he could play tin general with. He knew they saw their own fates wrapped up in his, even to the point where they saw/see Trump as America itself. You can’t have a more dangerous situation than that. Except, of course, if the demagogue has the intellectual firepower and organizational skills to start the process early enough and keep more of it behind closed doors. Trump was just bad at being Il Duce. But, to me, that doesn’t change the fact that attempted a coup and people died because of that.

    The next wingnut won’t make the same mistakes.

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    Watt, at one time, was considered the best D-lineman in the league. At least before AD. Anno Donaldio. Freakish athleticism and drive when young.

    If he has any juice left — I haven’t really paid attention to his career — the Rams should definitely kick the tires. But I would be against a signing if it meant losing Johnson.

    Thoughts on Watt?

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    Zooey,

    This is spot-on:

    If they really wanted to hurt them, they would have brought in witnesses. Witnesses would not only say, “Yeah, we have evidence that there were contacts between the WH and the Proud Boys,” they would also end up inevitably talking about what they know about the Capitol police’s complicity, and the tours of the building given by the fascist boys Jordan, Gosar, Gaetz and others the day before. Cruz and Hawley would be dragged into it. The Democrats had the ability in their hands to smack a deadly blow to the GOP. They didn’t. I speculated earlier as to Why, but they could have dragged the entire thing out in the open, and blown the top off the GOP. Instead, they declined to call witnesses, and made it very clear in their arguments that the congress was NOT on trial, only Trump, trying to give them an Out. It IS theatre, and they DO want to deal a blow, but unlike…the police, say…they are only interested in restraining the GOP, not executing it.

    The Dems are forever bringing Roberts Rules of Order to a gun fight.

    And, as usual, the GOP goes for the jugular. The Trump team of Mob lawyers had no scruples regarding going after the entire Democratic party. But the Dems continue(d) to try to make this only about Trump. They should have, and could have, destroyed the entire GOP, as you say, for direct and indirect complicity in a fascist coup.

    I have no real idea why, just theories.

    P.S. What’s with Cruz, Graham and Lee meeting, more than once, with Trump’s defense team? Why is that allowed?

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    Covid sidenote:

    Watching the proceedings. They’re being pretty good about masks, until they go up to the mic. Then they remove it and start to talk.

    No one is wiping down the mic or the area before a new speaker holds forth.

    I’d be very surprised if there aren’t some brand new cases of Covid, due to this oversight.

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    Also, while pretty much every politician lies up a storm, no one in history has ever come close to Trump. And his lies kill. The Dems just aren’t in the same universe when it comes to that.

    Above and beyond the usual lies of omission our media tend to ignore, Trump was documented with more than 30,000 instances while president.

    Trump made 30,573 false or misleading claims as president. Nearly half came in his final year.

    I feel like a massive weight is lifted from me now, just to be able to deal again with the usual political bullshit. While Trump was in office, we had all of that plus his own epic, never-before-seen level of mendacity, sadism and sociopathology.

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    The whataboutism employed by Trump’s third-stringers entirely missed the context in each case. There was no attempt to set it in context, or extend the quotes to include what was relevant. If they had done so, their BS would have been exposed.

    And in no case did the Dems in question try to provoke actual violence. Trump did, and has from Day One. Repeatedly. Knowingly. Knowing that he was provoking fascists, neo-nazis, etc. etc.

    And you know, WV, as a lawyer, you can’t mount an effective case for your client by saying, “But judge, lotsa people break the law!!”

    What other people have done isn’t germane in this case. It’s about Trump. If they want to put those Dems on trial for what they did or said, win back Congress and go for it.

    That’s not a defense of the Dems. That’s a defense of reality, in my view.

    I agree with you about the entire system being horrible. But there’s a difference between the Dem wing versus the GOP and Trump. A difference worth caring about, IMO. Biden stopped the XL pipeline, for instance, reversed dozens of Trump’s earth-killing orders, stopped our support of the Saudi’s war in Yemen, and is actually trying to defeat the pandemic. Environmentalists are hopeful, for the first time in years, that progressive change is possible.

    While we’re stuck with capitalism and empire, I think it matters which wing of the Money Party is in charge, and that neither wing attempts a violent coup.

    Hope all is well in West Virginia.

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