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I know you are trying BT. I see that. That post of mine was as much a reminder to myself as anything else.
I just hate rancorous, endless, get-nowhere, no-point-in-it, Bickering.
Lets say bnw goes “yawn” — well, why react at all? Why…react…at…all?
We react because of emotions. Thats all. Emotions. Yes? No?w
vWell, I thought I responded with humor after the “yawn,” suggesting that he get more sleep and maybe try Melatonin. And then after the third or fourth “yawn,” I upped the ante to Ambien.
I thought you liked humor.
Okay, okay. No reaction is better.
It also shows how important Greek myths were to the theology of early Christianity. The Greek gods, especially Zeus, were always impregnating mortal girls, thus producing demi-gods — like Heracles, Perseus and Achilles.
The dead and resurrected messiah also draws on Greek and earlier myths going back to at least the Egyptians. Deities being torn apart and brought back to life again, like Osiris and Dionysus. This appears to be a reflection of actual human sacrificial practices of ritual slaughtering of kings — to protect a tribe, a kingdom or produce a better harvest, etc. etc. Eventually, they got wise, and no longer allowed themselves to actually be killed, but were instead, symbolically sacrificed and then reborn from under the skirts of priestesses, usually.
We find echoes of this in myths and thousands of years later, like the Arthurian myth of the Fisher King, the Holy Grail, the Waste land and so forth. The king being tied directly to the earth. His failing health or loss of limb meaning meaning the tribe or kingdom was in grave danger of collapse. In that story, the king’s being pierced by a spear is a euphemism for castration . . . which was perhaps the ultimate in connections between king and country.
From Ritual to Romance, by Jessie L Weston, was one of the great early books studying this. T.S. Eliot drew heavily from it for his great poem, the Wasteland.
It’s interesting that the number of scientists that identify as atheists varies depending on their discipline. The highest number of believers are in the social sciences whereas the fewest are in biology and physics. This makes sense to me because they are the two sciences that’s findings are constantly contradicting religious dogma.
Sure seems like the biological sciences are knocking at the door of parthenogenesis which will affirm the Immaculate Conception.
Parthenogenesis happens all the time. It occurs in all sorts of invertebrates and even some vertebrates like varanid lizards. But unless Jesus was a rotifer or Komodo dragon then parthenogenesis wouldn’t explain the virgin birth. Besides, organisms that employ the XX, XY chromosome system (as humans do) and undergo parthenogenesis can only produce a clone of the mother because no Y chromosome is present. That means Jesus had to be a woman.
“The Virgin Birth” is a translation error. We know it’s impossible from a biological point of view — at least for humans. It was a mistranslation of Hebrew scripture (Isaiah), which used “almah” (young woman) not “bethulah” (virgin). The Septuagint mistranslates “young woman” into the Greek “parthenos” (virgin).
In order to claim divine parentage for Jesus, the gospel of Matthew posits the fulfillment of a prophecy which was never about a “virgin birth” in the first place. As in, the entire thing is built on an error of translation.
But Americans dont want to “waste their votes” so
they will vote for a monster.No-one is twisting their voting-arms.
I will vote for Hillary because Trump is significantly worse and by a wide margin.
I will then join the “third party alternative” and/or “reform the dems” thing the day after the election.
That’s just me listing my vote. Not arguing. If I can’t talk anyone else into it, so be it.
If I catch flak for it here, so be that too.
Hildabeast is a crook so Trump is much better. I will vote for Trump.
If being a “crook” is a deal-breaker for you, bnw, then you shouldn’t be voting for Trump. He made tens of millions ripping off students at Trump University, tens of millions ripping off business partners in his many bankruptcies, tens of millions from taxpayers playing the debt game. He’s currently fighting thousands of lawsuits for his crooked business practices. And if elected, he’ll pocket additional tens of millions, personally, from slashing the top tax rate and ending the estate tax. The latter, btw, impacts just 0.2% of the country. The richest 0.2%. More than 99.8% of the country won’t see any “tax relief” from the end of the estate tax, but government programs will take a hit so the rich can get richer.
Oh, and Mr “fair trade” outsources labor for his manufacturing companies. And, he’s a serial liar.
I understand not wanting to vote for Clinton. I won’t either. But voting for Trump makes zero sense, given your criteria.
Carson’s mention of of the Trilateral Satanic Commingling was my favorite part of the convention so far. Probably the only thing I will remember about it in 10 years.
Follow the logic here: Hillary wrote a paper on Saul Alinsky who once off-handedly mentioned Lucifer. Therefore………………. Hillary is in league with Satan.
Awesome.
You know, I keep seeing these articles about how the GOP is imploding.
It’s not imploding.
These people have been saying out loud the most batshit crazy ass shit for YEARS, and it makes no difference. They still love Sarah Palin. I mean…you know…she should have finished off the last shred of respectability of the party of Lincoln long ago. And yet…here they are. These people occupy enough of this country to elect Donald Trump – DONALD TRUMP – as president.
At least the death of the planet will draw big ratings.
Agreed, Zooey. It doesn’t seem to make any difference. The GOP was supposed to be finished after Hoover. It was supposed to be finished after Goldwater. It was supposed to be finished after Reagan’s first term and the terrible recession he had. His own party turned on him and there was talk of running someone else in 1984. It was supposed to be finished after Gingrich left Congress in disgrace. After Dubya’s catastrophic failures. And on and on.
It’s the zombie party with its zombie lies of trickle down awesomeness, its anti-science, creationist fanaticism, its Birthers and Birchers and False Flaggers and tea partiers and white supremacists and on and on. Nothing stops it. Not the serial lies, not the moronic economic and social ideas, not the love of inequality, the love of the suffering of others, not the racism, bigotry or xenophobia. Nothing kills it.
But it’s not only because there are tens of millions of ignorant, reactionary Americans who continuously fall for right-wing lies — Dem or Republican. It’s because the media and the people who own it don’t want it to die. They want to channel the batshit crazies somehow, herd them at least into one known party — the better to control them, I suppose. They have to have somewhere to go and some release valve of sorts.
Also: Alinsky. I don’t think there ever was a nicer, kinder, gentler boogeyman in our history. He worked his entire adult life to help the poor, the downtrodden, the oppressed and was beloved. Demonizing him is kinda like the Brits demonizing Gandhi, though, of course, Alinsky worked on a much, much smaller scale. His comment about Lucifer was tongue in cheek. But the American Taliban doesn’t know tongue in cheek from sharia.
