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Carson’s mention of of the Trilateral Satanic Commingling was my favorite part of the convention so far. Probably the only thing I will remember about it in 10 years.
Follow the logic here: Hillary wrote a paper on Saul Alinsky who once off-handedly mentioned Lucifer. Therefore………………. Hillary is in league with Satan.
Awesome.
You know, I keep seeing these articles about how the GOP is imploding.
It’s not imploding.
These people have been saying out loud the most batshit crazy ass shit for YEARS, and it makes no difference. They still love Sarah Palin. I mean…you know…she should have finished off the last shred of respectability of the party of Lincoln long ago. And yet…here they are. These people occupy enough of this country to elect Donald Trump – DONALD TRUMP – as president.
At least the death of the planet will draw big ratings.
Agreed, Zooey. It doesn’t seem to make any difference. The GOP was supposed to be finished after Hoover. It was supposed to be finished after Goldwater. It was supposed to be finished after Reagan’s first term and the terrible recession he had. His own party turned on him and there was talk of running someone else in 1984. It was supposed to be finished after Gingrich left Congress in disgrace. After Dubya’s catastrophic failures. And on and on.
It’s the zombie party with its zombie lies of trickle down awesomeness, its anti-science, creationist fanaticism, its Birthers and Birchers and False Flaggers and tea partiers and white supremacists and on and on. Nothing stops it. Not the serial lies, not the moronic economic and social ideas, not the love of inequality, the love of the suffering of others, not the racism, bigotry or xenophobia. Nothing kills it.
But it’s not only because there are tens of millions of ignorant, reactionary Americans who continuously fall for right-wing lies — Dem or Republican. It’s because the media and the people who own it don’t want it to die. They want to channel the batshit crazies somehow, herd them at least into one known party — the better to control them, I suppose. They have to have somewhere to go and some release valve of sorts.
Also: Alinsky. I don’t think there ever was a nicer, kinder, gentler boogeyman in our history. He worked his entire adult life to help the poor, the downtrodden, the oppressed and was beloved. Demonizing him is kinda like the Brits demonizing Gandhi, though, of course, Alinsky worked on a much, much smaller scale. His comment about Lucifer was tongue in cheek. But the American Taliban doesn’t know tongue in cheek from sharia.
But that doesn’t counter the great amount of harm done by a very few hyper-religious people. Pence, Cruz, Santorum etc.
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Well, i dont agree that its a ‘very few’ hyper-religious humans.
There’s Billions of em. With a B.w
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I can’t speak for Nittany, of course, but I think he was pointing out that great harm can come from just a few hyper-religious humans — which is a rather nice way of phrasing things. I don’t think he meant there were only a few in existence.
Yeah. Certainly there are a great number of hyper-religious people. But here in the US I would say they are in the minority. While most people are ‘believers’ I don’t think most people are hyper-religious. But that perception can be shaped by where you live. I live in VT, and out of the hundreds of people I’ve met I know of only two who would fall in that category. In central Pa there were a lot more, as there would be in WV I am sure. Of course, this would depend on how we define ‘hyper-religious’…
Of course I think we’d be better off if religion didn’t exist at all.
Faith is the enemy of reason.
I live in the South, and I’m surrounded by people on the rightward side of the political spectrum, along with a great many religious fundamentalists.
Really? I’d guess Asheville, NC? (You did say South.)
The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.
Sprinkles are for winners.
One reason we don’t want to generalize about religion per se is that it takes so many forms. Actually according to one poll a few years ago “just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power.” So for many, science and some kind of faith are not opposed things. This of course contradicts the idea that anti-scientific whack jobs
And to be honest with you, as atheistic and philosophically materialist as I am (and I am), I count lectures from atheists about why religion is bad about the same as I count conversion sermons from the zealously religious. I don’t censor it, or try to hush it, but my glaze over and I go to another room.
It’s interesting that the number of scientists that identify as atheists varies depending on their discipline. The highest number of believers are in the social sciences whereas the fewest are in biology and physics. This makes sense to me because they are the two sciences that’s findings are constantly contradicting religious dogma.
As far as arguments about religion go, as a rule I don’t try to convince people of faith that their diety of choice doesn’t exist. Many people ‘need’ their faith. Often they have little else in their lives so I don’t want to take something away that means so much to them. But I will argue with people about the major organized religions and the horrors they’ve caused. That’s just historical fact and thus fair game.
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