Since 9/11, Right wing Extremists have killed more people in US than Jihadists..

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    nittany ram
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    #26923
    wv
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    What about bathtubs ?

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    #26924
    bnw
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    Thats more crapola from CNN. The Beltway Snipers alone murdered 17 people across the nation and directly cited jihad as the reason but they do not make the list.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cnn-still-running-dubious-right-wing-vs.-muslim-extremists-statistic/article/2566694

    CNN still running dubious right-wing vs. Muslim extremists statistic
    BY T. BECKET ADAMS | JUNE 20, 2015 | 10:48 AM

    CNN aired a statistic Friday morning alleging that “right-wing extremism” is responsible for more deaths since Sept. 11, 2001, than “Muslim extremism.”

    The thing is: The statistic is dubious.

    The CNN graphic is based on figures provided by the International Security Program at the New America Foundation.
    NAF looks at extremists who have been motivated by jihadist ideology, especially those in connection with al Qaeda and “its affiliated groups,” its website explains. It also monitors “those motivated by other ideologies that are non-Jihadist in character, for example right wing, left wing, or idiosyncratic beliefs.”

    Its figures account only for deadly attacks that have occurred in the United States.

    The data currently available on NAF’s database shows that 39 people have been killed since 2001 by homegrown non-jihadists, while jihadists have killed 26.

    The CNN graphic aired Friday reflected an updated version of NAF’s data, with the cable news network adjusting the figure on “right-wing extremism” to include Wednesday’s massacre in Charleston, S.C., which claimed the lives of nine African-Americans.

    However, NAF’s most current data, which only covers attacks by extremists who are either United States citizens or permanent residents, has been challenged over its categorizing of post-9/11 deadly attacks.

    “For instance, NAF includes Joshua Cartwright on the list [of non-jihadists]. In 2009, Cartwright was reported to police after beating his wife. Police attempted to arrest him for domestic violence at a local shooting range. A shootout ensued in which two police officers were killed,” conservative blogger John Sexton reported in April 2014.

    “NAF apparently includes Cartwright on its list of terrorists because his wife remarked that he was ‘severely disturbed’ by the election of Barack Obama,” he added.

    The NAF database also excludes from its list of jihadist attacks the infamous Beltway Sniper, John Allen Muhammad, who was responsible for shooting and killing 10 Americans in 2002.

    PunditFact, a division of the Tampa Bay Times, wrote in Jan. 2015, “Leave [the Beltway Sniper] deaths out of the equation for slayings on American soil, and the edge … still goes to the right-wing extremists.”

    However, PunditFact added, “If this exercise shows nothing else, it is that the number of post-9/11 deaths in the United States from either cause is low, and drawing firm conclusions is dicey. A single event or a change in definitions can shift the balance.”

    The fact-checking site added that defining the nature of deadly attacks makes all the difference, explaining that many of the killers acted on their own.

    “Experts in terrorist and extremist violence told PunditFact that in these cases, it can be difficult to draw the line between ideological and purely personal motivations,” the group said.

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    #26925
    bnw
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    What about bathtubs ?

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    Or bees.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #26931
    Mackeyser
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    Asking The Tampa Bay Times to get things right is a dubious proposition.

    Politifact and Punditfact are almost laughable.

    That said, I’m not surprised that CNN reached a sensational conclusion…

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

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