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March 7, 2018 at 5:10 pm #83581
znModeratorRams trade LB Alec Ogletree to New York Giants for draft picks–OC Register
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Rams trade Alec Ogletree to Giants for two draft picks –ESPN
link: http://tv5.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22680521/los-angeles-rams-trade-alec-ogletree-new-york-giants
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Rams to trade Alec Ogletree to Giants for two picks–NFL.com
March 7, 2018 at 6:35 pm #83595
znModeratorTrade: Rams deal LB Alec Ogletree to Giants
By Bill Barnwell
Grade for Rams: C+
Grade for Giants: CThe Giants were loathe to spend money on coverage linebackers under the reign of general manager Jerry Reese, who never adequately replaced Antonio Pierce in the middle of the field after the playoff hero finished his career in 2009. Draft picks like Jonathan Goff and a bevy of free agents — everyone from Jon Beason to J.T. Thomas — couldn’t stay healthy or play effective football. With Dave Gettleman coming over from a Panthers organization that built its defense around Thomas Davis and Luke Kuechly, it’s no surprise that he might want to address inside linebacker this offseason.
Ogletree is certainly the most likely candidate to succeed the Giants have brought in since Pierce, but it’s hard to argue that the former Georgia star is likely to return value. The 26-year-old is a stud athlete, but he hasn’t been able to turn those measurables into significant production since 2014. Ogletree forced 10 fumbles over his first two seasons, but he has only been responsible for two strips over the three ensuing years. He made tackles on 16.1 percent of Los Angeles’ run plays last season, a rate which was 60th in the league among players with 200 run snaps or more.
The problem is that Ogletree plays a position the league really doesn’t seem to value with significant contracts. The Rams signed Ogletree to a four-year, $42.8 million extension last October, and the Giants will essentially have Ogletree on a four-year, $38-million deal with $10 million guaranteed, all coming this season. That’s not in line with what better players have gotten in free agency; Dont’a Hightower, for one, got four years and $35.5 million to stay with the Patriots last offseason. Useful players like Zach Brown, who is back in the market this year, had to settle for a one-year pact. It’s difficult to believe Ogletree would have got this much if he were a free agent.
The Rams free up cap space as part of this deal, which marks the second expensive defender they’ve dealt away in a week after trading Robert Quinn to the Dolphins. It now seems more likely that they’ll hang on to fellow linebacker Mark Barron, who seemed like a plausible cap casualty. L.A. will have $6.5 million in dead money on their cap for Ogletree this year, but with $47.3 million in space, they can use the savings to bring back Sammy Watkins, who would otherwise be an unrestricted free agent. Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips has helped develop unheralded inside linebackers like Todd Davis and Brandon Marshall in years past, so the Rams might be able to get by without big money players on the interior.
Gettleman gives up fourth- and sixth-round picks to the Rams, who send a 2019 seventh-rounder back as part of the deal. The Giants have the second pick in the fourth round (No. 102) and the third-to-last selection in that round (pick 135) as a compensatory chit. There’s a big difference between the two selections, obviously, but either pick would represent a victory for the Rams.
March 7, 2018 at 7:59 pm #83603
znModeratorScheme fits, cap space and the Rams’ departure from Alec Ogletree
Alden Gonzalez
LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles Rams had already made enough trades that the general public had basically become desensitized to their offseason movement. But this latest one sent shock waves through the industry.
Alec Ogletree, a lynchpin in the Rams’ locker room, was dealt to the New York Giants on Wednesday, less than five months after signing a four-year, $42 million extension. The return was draft picks — a fourth- and a sixth-round pick in 2018, with next year’s seventh-rounder going to the Giants — and more salary cap space, which harkens back to the trade that sent outside linebacker Robert Quinn to the Miami Dolphins only five days earlier.
Ogletree, like Quinn, wasn’t an ideal fit in Wade Phillips’ 3-4 scheme, which is why Ogletree, like Quinn, was deemed better off somewhere else, giving the Rams additional salary-cap flexibility and draft capital they can use elsewhere. The Rams are now approaching $50 million in salary cap space — $3 million more will come off the books when they inevitably part ways with Tavon Austin — and have accumulated 10 picks for the upcoming draft.
The extra money can go toward retaining their own free agents — namely, wide receiver Sammy Watkins and cornerback Trumaine Johnson, whom they have expressed interest in retaining — and aligning the defense to Phillips’ vision. But the Ogletree trade can be boiled down to two essential, albeit vastly different, factors.
The Rams need to limit the amount of players who make significant money because of what is coming. Aaron Donald is awaiting an extension that would make him the game’s highest-paid defensive player, preferably by a wide margin. But Todd Gurley is only one year behind him, and Jared Goff is only one year behind him. Soon, those three could absorb up to a third of their salary cap space. The Rams must plan accordingly.
They’re not satisfied with their defense, particularly their run defense. The Rams gave up the 12th-fewest points and generated the fifth-most turnovers, but they gave up the fifth-most rushing yards. And a lot of their struggles could be traced to players who weren’t scheme fits, Quinn and Ogletree among them. They’re trying to get the defense on par with the offense. It sounds crazy given the recent history of this franchise, but it’s the new reality.
The Ogletree trade means it’s a good chance that inside linebacker Mark Barron, a potential cap casualty, will stay. The Rams have promising young players who are next in line. Cory Littleton can replace Ogletree, Matt Longacre can replace Quinn and Samson Ebukam, last year’s fourth-round pick, can replace Connor Barwin, who is slated to become an unrestricted free agent. Phillips has a history of making unheralded linebackers rich, including former sixth-round pick Danny Trevathan.
But the Rams still need serious linebacker help from the outside, not to mention potential replacements at nose tackle, center and slot corner.
Ogletree, the 30th overall pick out of Georgia in 2013, was a converted safety who eventually transitioned to middle linebacker and blossomed into a leader. In 67 career starts, he racked up 501 tackles, 5.5 sacks, 6 interceptions, 43 passes defended, 12 forced fumbles and 2 touchdowns. But Pro Football Focus graded him 76th among 86 qualified linebackers last season, making his upcoming price tag unsuitable.
Ogletree would’ve been a week away from unrestricted free agency had the Rams not locked him up in October. His departure would’ve probably netted a fourth-round compensatory pick in 2019, which means the Ogletree extension — like the Austin extension — didn’t provide any real benefit.
Now it’s all about what the Rams do with the empty space
March 8, 2018 at 3:53 am #83632
znModeratorfrom: https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/08/free-agency-players-teams-league-trend-mmqb-notebook
ALBERT BREER
The Rams trading Alec Ogletree just five months after giving him a four-year, $42.75 million deal isn’t Los Angeles saying he can’t play. He wasn’t always the most consistent player, but this is more about the value that Wade Phillips puts in inside linebackers in his defense. As it’s set up, resources are better allocated in perimeter players—edge-rushing outside linebackers and corners. So maybe a change of scenery, and back to a 4-3, will help Ogletree.
And if it does, the Giants just fixed a hole that’s been there on their roster forever. Some teams don’t value off-ball linebackers at the level that Ogeltree is being compensated. But new Giants GM Dave Gettleman does, and his willingness to pay both Luke Kuechly and Thomas Davis in Carolina is proof positive of that.
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March 8, 2018 at 6:39 am #83636
znModeratorWorth noting:
Trade: Rams deal LB Alec Ogletree to Giants
By Bill Barnwell
Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips has helped develop unheralded inside linebackers such as Todd Davis and Brandon Marshall in years past, so the Rams might be able to get by without big-money players on the interior.
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