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  • March 3, 2023 at 12:21 pm #143083
    InvaderRam
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    https://www.nfl.com/combine/

     

    well.  the dline and lbers finished.  and holy moly.  one guy in particular stands out.

     

    adetomiwa adebawore.

    6’2″ 282 lbs

    33 7/8″ arms and 10 1/2″ hands.

    40 yard dash – 4.49 seconds.

    37 1/2″ vert.

    10’5″ broad.

    and i don’t know if this is true but he’s reported to have run the short shuttle in 4.05s and the 3 cone in 6.9s.

     

    wow.  just wow.  and he produced in college.  probably a first rd pick though.  only 21.  will turn 22 this year.

    March 3, 2023 at 12:47 pm #143084
    InvaderRam
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    right now adebawore is projected as a day 2 pick.  i can’t see how he doesn’t move up the boards.

     

    but if the rams do indeed trade ramsey.  well.  i think you’d have to consider him if he’s available.

    March 3, 2023 at 4:07 pm #143085
    Billy_T
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    Yeah. Special athlete. Also not sure why he isn’t get a comp with Donald, instead of Kancey. Adebawore has height and weight nearly identical to Donald. Though neither Kancey or Adebawore are cut like him. Kancey, especially, looks a bit out of shape to me. Which, I guess, makes his 40 even crazier.

    I like Maryland’s CB too, Deonte Banks. Ran a 4.35, 42 vert, and 11.4 broad. Maryland’s other corner, Jakorian Bennett, was even faster, at 4.31.

    Also like Will McDonald for Edge.

    I really hope the Rams shift gears a bit and go for special athletes (“freaks”), and don’t shy away from younger players. They need to get faster, younger, and more athletic, in my view.

    March 3, 2023 at 5:07 pm #143086
    InvaderRam
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    Billy_T wrote:

    Yeah. Special athlete. Also not sure why he isn’t get a comp with Donald, instead of Kancey. Adebawore has height and weight nearly identical to Donald. Though neither Kancey or Adebawore are cut like him. Kancey, especially, looks a bit out of shape to me. Which, I guess, makes his 40 even crazier. I like Maryland’s CB too, Deonte Banks. Ran a 4.35, 42 vert, and 11.4 broad. Maryland’s other corner, Jakorian Bennett, was even faster, at 4.31. Also like Will McDonald for Edge. I really hope the Rams shift gears a bit and go for special athletes (“freaks”), and don’t shy away from younger players. They need to get faster, younger, and more athletic, in my view.

     

    multiple corners are testing well right now.  exciting.  although maybe that diminishes ramsey’s trade value.  which i hope would deter the rams from trading him…

     

    more on adebawore.  they had him doing linebacker drills and reports are that he looked good there.  that has me really excited.  he could play dline.  but also has the length, speed, quickness, and explosion to play off the edge.  but again.  this most likely means he moves up the draft.

     

    i agree.  the rams have to take some risks here.  they looked old and slow this year.

    March 4, 2023 at 8:52 pm #143090
    InvaderRam
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    too many positions and too many players to watch, so i’m just going after certain positions.

     

    tight ends.

     

    there’s some athletes to be got here.  i hope the rams get one.

     

    first on my list is darnell washington.

    6’7″ 264 pounds.

    11″ hands and 34 3/8″ arms.

    4.64 40

    31″ vert

    10’2″ broad

    4.08 short shuttle

     

    didn’t catch much in college, but i’ve read his potential there is high.  primarily a blocker which i love.  should be available in the second?  i don’t know.  i’m not much of a draft expert.

     

    shoot.  looking at his size, i’d almost be tempted to convert him into an offensive tackle.

     

    i also like payne durham.  another blocking tight end from what i understand.

    6’6″ 253 pounds

    9 3/4″ hands and 33 3/8″ arms.

    4.87 40

    34.5″ vert

    9’9″ broad

     

    there’s a third.  zack kuntz.  freak athlete.

    6’7″ 255 pounds

    10 1/4″ hands and 34″ arms

    4.55 40

    40″ vert

    10’8″ broad

    6.87 3-cone

    4.12 short shuttle

     

    holy smokes.  what an athlete.  but he sounds like more an athlete than football players.  so i’m a little wary.

     

    if i had my preference they’d pick darnell washington.  he might not last until their second round pick at this rate.  but i’d pick him there if he’s available.  i just refreshed his combine page and he ran a 4.08 second short shuttle!!!  he’d impact the passing game and the running game.  shoot.

     

    edit.  forget it.  he’s a first rounder.

     

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    March 4, 2023 at 10:39 pm #143092
    JackPMiller
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    Some guys I was impressed with, Nolan Smith, DJ Turner, Keondre Coburn, Siaki Ika, & Owen Pappoe.
    Even though neither are not at the combine, but I do like, that is Brayden Willis TE Oklahoma & Davis Allen TE Clemson. They are considered late 5th – late 6th round picks.
    March 5, 2023 at 12:27 am #143093
    InvaderRam
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    JackPMiller wrote:
    Some guys I was impressed with, Nolan Smith, DJ Turner, Keondre Coburn, Siaki Ika, & Owen Pappoe.
    Even though neither are not at the combine, but I do like, that is Brayden Willis TE Oklahoma & Davis Allen TE Clemson. They are considered late 5th – late 6th round picks.

     

    what i really want to see is how the olinemen test.  i’m guessing it’s tomorrow?

     

    oline, defensive back, edge rusher, tight end.  i think these are the rams’ biggest needs.

    March 5, 2023 at 8:32 am #143096
    zn
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    March 5, 2023 at 10:59 am #143099
    Billy_T
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    Rams need Edge, first and foremost. Probably two of them. But if they trade Ramsey, that pushes CB up there as well. They should be able to net a 1st rounder for Ramsey, so that could go for the best Edge available. With #36, I’d take Banks, if he’s there.

    Not a good idea to lock yourself into the above, of course. Keep yer options open. But I like picking for need early, and then going for freakiest athlete/BPA later. Ideally, you get the trifecta. Need/BPA/Freakiest athlete. But I think the chances of that trifecta diminish with each passing round. Even within each round.

    Also, if their board has a bloc of guys with similar grades, say five or six, do your best to trade back within that range. I also think they should start trading up later. Trade down early. Trade back up later. Or don’t. It all depends.

    (Don’t get too cute, IOW. If a great player is there, at #36, take him.)

    Overall, I’d rank their needs like this: Edge (maybe two), CB (especially if Ramsey goes), G, C, TE, S, WR, RB. I want them to find a size/speed/jump ball wideout. Not a strong draft for wr, apparently, but they should be able to find a small school hidden gem late.

     

    March 5, 2023 at 11:05 am #143100
    Billy_T
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    Darnell Washington would be great for the Rams. Very likely to help their run game, and his athleticism was under-used in college. He could surprise as a receiver too. 11” hands? Surprising speed, and crazy good shuttle.

    Kuntz is someone the Rams could get late, though his Combine performance may have thrown that out of whack. Amazing athlete, with great size. Would be all in for that pick.

    March 5, 2023 at 11:51 am #143101
    Billy_T
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    Good overview of top tight ends and wideouts, focusing on their Combines:

    8 combine standouts at WR and TE for the Rams to target

    March 5, 2023 at 2:47 pm #143103
    InvaderRam
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    Billy_T wrote:

    Rams need Edge, first and foremost. Probably two of them. But if they trade Ramsey, that pushes CB up there as well. They should be able to net a 1st rounder for Ramsey, so that could go for the best Edge available. With #36, I’d take Banks, if he’s there.

     

    i would take bpa at front seven, oline, or defensive back.  i think all three are needs if ramsey is traded.

     

    in the second, i’m hoping like hell that washington is around.  he’s not the biggest need, but he’s such a freak athlete.  and in this case, i think it’d be worse the risk.  i think his potential as a receiver will be huge.

    March 5, 2023 at 2:58 pm #143104
    InvaderRam
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    oline.

     

    broderick jones tested well today.

    6’5″ 311 pounds

    34 3/4″ arms and 10 5/8″ hands

    4.97 40

    30″ vert

    9′ broad

     

    only two years starting experience at left tackle.  i’ve seen him projected 1st or second round.  after today’s combine he might have shot himself up to the top half of the draft.  if the rams acquire a first rounder, i would hope he’d be available.  tackle is a big need.

     

     

     

    March 5, 2023 at 3:06 pm #143105
    InvaderRam
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    March 5, 2023 at 3:26 pm #143106
    InvaderRam
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    another edge for ya bt!  i don’t think he’ll be available for the rams though…

     

    lukas van ness

    6’5″ 272 pounds

    34″ arms 11″ hands

    4.58 40

    31″ vert

    9’10” broad

    7.02 3-cone

    4.32 short shuttle

     

    good athlete.  freakish length.  produced in college.  i see him consistently in top 15 on most lists.  but he could get pushed down?  anyone at edge or de would please me.

     

     

     

     

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    March 5, 2023 at 3:55 pm #143108
    InvaderRam
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    offensive tackle blake freeland.  i’ve seen him anywhere from a low first round pick to third round.  had a good combine.

    6’8″ 302 pounds

    33 7/8″ arms 10″ hands

    4.98 40

    37″ vert

    10″ broad

     

    good length.  not freakish but good.  good size.  rams really need a left tackle…  maybe he’d be available in the second round?  his vert is pretty insane.  so is his broad.  maybe now a late first rounder?

    March 5, 2023 at 4:29 pm #143109
    Billy_T
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    Van Ness wasn’t a starter, but in their system, that doesn’t really tell us anything. Seniors get the call first, apparently. He looks like the real deal.

    All things being equal, you want guys with four years experience as starters. At least three. But in major programs, there is a ton of talent on the bench. Some never see the field. Great scouts can uncover those guys. If memory serves, Edgerrin James didn’t start for Miami, but became a great pro.

    I’d bet programs like Georgia, Alabama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, etc. etc. . . . . have really good players that ride the pine their entire football career.

    . . .

    You just don’t see offensive linemen with Breeland’s size have that vert and broad. Crazy.

     

    i would take bpa at front seven, oline, or defensive back. i think all three are needs if ramsey is traded.

    I can go with that, Invader. Sounds smart.

    March 6, 2023 at 1:06 pm #143116
    zn
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