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  • #43614
    canadaram
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    Just watched this documentary. It was released in 2011 so perhaps this is old news to many here. Anyway, it spoke to me.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xjLxJjgi4CA

    #43619
    wv
    Participant

    Just watched this documentary. It was released in 2011 so perhaps this is old news to many here. Anyway, it spoke to me.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xjLxJjgi4CA

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    Well, i think about this kind of stuff a lot,
    and I cant give that director many points cause
    he’s basically just talking to the choir and preaching to the choir. He went to smart, compassionate, educated, privileged people
    and he asked them questions and they said basically
    “we are all connected and we need to be nice to each other”.

    Yes? No?

    Well, HOW are we supposed to accomplish this world-wide love-in ?

    How?

    I’d have liked it better if he’d talked to Isis members, Aryan Brotherhood members, Christian Fundamentalists, Jinogists, Nationalists, Flat-Earthers, etc, and tried to have a dialogue with THEM.

    Cause without them, there aint gonna be any love-in.

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    #43631
    canadaram
    Participant

    How?

    That’s waaaaay too big a question for my little brain to handle. I’m just up here being the change I want to see.

    #43635
    wv
    Participant

    How?

    That’s waaaaay too big a question for my little brain to handle. I’m just up here being the change I want to see.

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    🙂 Fair enough.

    Before i go plant bulbs,
    I leave you with a Marx quote i read the other day.

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    “…Marx once wrote said that one of the principle products of capitalism was stupidity. The shit that has regularly cascaded from New York in the last twenty years has performed admirably its task of keeping people stupid. What pride can be taken in a line which has given us Moral Fiction, Minimalism, the Literary Brat Pack and now Generation X? Commercial publishing has perhaps, not been as single-minded in this task as television, but books have offered no solace for, let alone an alternative to the egregious cretinism of mass culture.”
    Curtis White

    #43658
    canadaram
    Participant

    Marx once wrote said that one of the principle products of capitalism was stupidity.

    This afternoon as I was rushing to get ready to go out I was watching a David Suzuki show on TV. It was about how mining was impacting the indigenous people of Peru. The part that I saw was about how Hunt Oil, a company from Texas, wanted to go in and do exploratory drilling to investigate the feasibilty of setting up shop in the Amazon Rainforest. The environmental impact while hardly surprising was severe, but the part that I found most disturbing or disappointing was the social impact that Hunt Oil was having on the tribes people. According to the show, Hunt Oil focused on villages that were candidates for being influenced by he lure of money. It was described as a divide and conquer strategy. One village was offered $30 000. The villagers gathered to discuss hat to do with the money. One of the leaders pushed for using the money for medical purposes, but in the end the people decided to divide the money up equally among the families. The whole situation caused social problems that the indigenous people had never had to deal with before. It was an older episode, so I’m not sure what has happened since. Anyway, the stupidity part of the quote you cited above made me think about what I had watched.

    #43707
    wv
    Participant

    Marx once wrote said that one of the principle products of capitalism was stupidity.

    This afternoon as I was rushing to get ready to go out I was watching a David Suzuki show on TV. It was about how mining was impacting the indigenous people of Peru. The part that I saw was about how Hunt Oil, a company from Texas, wanted to go in and do exploratory drilling to investigate the feasibilty of setting up shop in the Amazon Rainforest. The environmental impact while hardly surprising was severe, but the part that I found most disturbing or disappointing was the social impact that Hunt Oil was having on the tribes people. According to the show, Hunt Oil focused on villages that were candidates for being influenced by he lure of money. It was described as a divide and conquer strategy. One village was offered $30 000. The villagers gathered to discuss hat to do with the money. One of the leaders pushed for using the money for medical purposes, but in the end the people decided to divide the money up equally among the families. The whole situation caused social problems that the indigenous people had never had to deal with before. It was an older episode, so I’m not sure what has happened since. Anyway, the stupidity part of the quote you cited above made me think about what I had watched.

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    Yeah, that anecdote you wrote about is repeated a gazzilion times
    a year in a gazillion places and contexts. Happens in WV prettymuch the same way, with fracking. The land-sellers make a few bucks, the corpse make a ton of money and the enivironment/biosphere bleeds more every year.

    It aint gettin better.

    Kinda looks like the dinosaurs will have a longer run
    than the humans. Who knows though.

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    #43728
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    You know my take.

    I don’t give us 50…And I got 4 kids, so that’s a particularly bleak outlook.

    But as carbon approaches 500ppm and solar output begins to increase…yeah, it’s gonna really start to ramp up…and right quick.

    Real estate prices are rebounding nicely here in FL and I’m actually thinking about moving.

    I may wait a year or two if I can hold out that long, but beyond that? I dunno…

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

    #43766
    wv
    Participant

    You know my take.

    I don’t give us 50…And I got 4 kids, so that’s a particularly bleak outlook.

    But as carbon approaches 500ppm and solar output begins to increase…yeah, it’s gonna really start to ramp up…and right quick.

    Real estate prices are rebounding nicely here in FL and I’m actually thinking about moving.

    I may wait a year or two if I can hold out that long, but beyond that? I dunno…

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    Maybe Appalachia will be the new
    Palm Beach ?

    I’ll save you an acre or two, Mack.

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    #43806
    Mackeyser
    Moderator

    My mom moved to be near us and my daughter will graduate HS next year.

    I have serious doubts about Florida going forward…

    Sports is the crucible of human virtue. The distillate remains are human vice.

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