‘Calexit'?

Ecotopia, I remember reading that as a young lad. Might even still have it in a bookshelf in my basement. They would have to take the western part of Oregon and Washington with them.

“””””Might even still have it in a bookshelf in my basement. They would have to take the western part of Oregon and Washington with them.”””””””

someone would need to re-write the lyrics of “America the Beautiful”… .from sea to shining sea…..

throw in Nevada too… we’ll take Vegas…

secession? eh. don’t know how serious this is, but separating oneself from people you disagree with seems a lil counterproductive… i mean we all have to occupy the same planet… for now.

Zooey wrote:

As a Californian, I have to say I would love to have this conversation. I don’t think it is likely to go anywhere. The Texas secession movement has been going much longer, and hasn’t topped out above 10%. (And, actually, I would be satisfied with Texas seceeding).

Here’s the thing. We really have had no say in anything for over a century. Our primaries happen after the outcome is determined. And we aren’t a swing state in the general election. Because of the despicable electoral college, and the primary schedule, our votes don’t really matter.

Meanwhile, we send more money to Washington DC than we receive from Washington DC. We subsidize you bastards. Our economy is bigger than France’s. Without you guys, we would still be the sixth largest economy in the world, and would still be a world player. All while not having to put up with the Bushes and Trumps of the world. We would be richer without you, we would still have international prestige without you, and we wouldn’t have Clarence Thomas. We would be Canada with good weather, Silicon Valley, and Hollywood.

You guys can go on with your cro-magnon ways – without our money – and everybody is happy.

That would be great. CA has been self-destructing for 3 decades sending its refugees into the rest of the US while bringing the very liberal plague with them that forced them to leave. Seattle was ruined by it. San Antonio is under siege now. Keep “your” money since it won’t be the US dollar any more and it will soon be worthless. Good luck with those water projects too, especially the Colorado River which would be a shame to see much more of its water diverted in the north towards more domestic agriculture sure to occur in the event of a Calexit. People in Socal are already drinking their own urine so perhaps it will be alright?

Zooey wrote:

As a Californian, I have to say I would love to have this conversation. I don’t think it is likely to go anywhere. The Texas secession movement has been going much longer, and hasn’t topped out above 10%. (And, actually, I would be satisfied with Texas seceeding).

Here’s the thing. We really have had no say in anything for over a century. Our primaries happen after the outcome is determined. And we aren’t a swing state in the general election. Because of the despicable electoral college, and the primary schedule, our votes don’t really matter.

Meanwhile, we send more money to Washington DC than we receive from Washington DC. We subsidize you bastards. Our economy is bigger than France’s. Without you guys, we would still be the sixth largest economy in the world, and would still be a world player. All while not having to put up with the Bushes and Trumps of the world. We would be richer without you, we would still have international prestige without you, and we wouldn’t have Clarence Thomas. We would be Canada with good weather, Silicon Valley, and Hollywood.

You guys can go on with your cro-magnon ways – without our money – and everybody is happy.

I think the population would shrink dramatically and along with it the economy.

bnw wrote:

CA has been self-destructing for 3 decades

I think everyone should just – stand back – and marvel at the sheer awesomeness of that statement.