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February 20, 2015 at 4:20 pm #18776znModerator
Insider Buzz: Browns Will ‘Take a Real Run’ at Trading for Rams QB Sam Bradford
February 20, 2015 at 4:29 pm #18778
rflParticipantZowie.
Question: what sort of deal would be WORTH a trade that “deleted” Bradford?
Have to be a lot. A helluva lot.
It would leave us nowhere in terms of QBs for this year.
There would have to be a way to get the best of the rookies, whoever that might be. But I doubt that would be enough.
We’d be–again–the team with a promising, improving roster and a chasm at QB.
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February 20, 2015 at 4:33 pm #18779rflParticipantI just listened to the video.
The guy was talking about the Browns somehow getting Sam inexpensively, maybe for a 2nd.
Ridiculous. Utterly preposterous. No freaking way we trade Sam for less than a meaningful shot at a good young QB and other considerations.
We have a fine QB. He is injury-prone, but he gives us a decent shot at quality QB play.
CLE has nothing at QB. They are far more desperate than we are. Which the video was all about.
How that translates to us trading Sam for pocket lint is an absurd notion.
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February 20, 2015 at 5:03 pm #18782znModeratorI just listened to the video.
The guy was talking about the Browns somehow getting Sam inexpensively, maybe for a 2nd.
Ridiculous. Utterly preposterous. No freaking way we trade Sam for less than a meaningful shot at a good young QB and other considerations.
We have a fine QB. He is injury-prone, but he gives us a decent shot at quality QB play.
CLE has nothing at QB. They are far more desperate than we are. Which the video was all about.
How that translates to us trading Sam for pocket lint is an absurd notion.
If you go out on the net on this, you will find that people are not posting Cole’s audio. They’re posting the rotoworld summary.
This is a problem because the rotoworld summary misrepresents what Cole said.
Here is something I have already posted elsewhere on it. It begins with the rotoworld summary, in quotes, and the misrepresentation bolded –>
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————ROTOWORLD: Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reports the Browns will “take a real run” at trying to trade for Sam Bradford. Relaying Combine buzz, Cole reports the Browns will aggressively pursue quarterbacks, and Bradford is at the “top of their list,” with free agent Josh McCown as a fallback option. Cole floats a second- or third-round pick as potential trade compensation. Bradford has reportedly informed the Rams he will not take a pay cut, which may complicate his future in St. Louis. If he falls out of the Rams’ plans — which still seems unlikely — the Browns would love to be there to catch him.
This is typical of rotoworld and why you never ever trust them to summarize a source accurately.
That is NOT what Cole said.
Cole said Bradford’s position (or more realistically, Conlan’s position) is either cut me, pay me, or extend me with a deal that lessens the 2015 cap hit. He is not JUST going to take a pure cut. AND Cole added, Bradford is not interested in being traded.
February 20, 2015 at 5:07 pm #18783
ZooeyParticipantBrowsing around this morning, I found a slide show of the most disappointing Heismann winners in history. The Top 20.
Bradford was at 19. I was rather stunned.
But, then, you consider that all anybody knows about Bradford is that he got the biggest rookie contract in history, and he hasn’t made the playoffs, and sat on the bench the last 22 games, or whatever.
That someone with no real knowledge of the Rams and Bradford would think a 2nd would get him isn’t all that surprising to me. I think we saw that Eagles fans thought they could get him for an end-of-the-day, yardsale discount price, too.
But the fact that a lot of people probably think that’s about right doesn’t make it any less preposterous.
February 20, 2015 at 6:53 pm #18787
DakParticipantYeah, it’s going to have to include a pro QB who could start now but isn’t as talented as Bradford and a 1st-rounder, or why would the Rams take the deal? And, really, why take the deal, anyway, because we don’t need another prospect and a worse QB1, we need Bradford AND a QB2 who could start.
February 21, 2015 at 1:21 pm #18827
JackPMillerParticipantNo way we trade Bradford unless we get at least two 1st round picks out of the deal. I can not see it happen.
February 22, 2015 at 8:35 pm #18899znModeratorBradford Trade Talk Not an Uncommon Situation
By Luke Schnake
http://www.101sports.com/2015/02/22/bradford-trade-talk-not-uncommon-situation/
Confusion set in recently, sparked by a CBSSports.com tweet stating the Rams had given Sam Bradford permission to seek a trade. Rams GM Les Snead was quick to refute those claims in a press conference from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis where he compared the situation to another from the past and said the team should still be prepared should Bradford become injured.
“Guess what? Sam Bradford, if he were to leave the Rams, he might be worth another team taking a shot at,” Snead said at the combine. “Let’s don’t delete him, I don’t think that is the answer. I think the answer is providing insurance in case we do go through you know, more bad luck.”
Rams Executive Vice President Kevin Demoff has let players and their agents know in the past they are free to explore the trade market to find their worth among teams who are looking.
In a recent interview with ESPN’s Nick Wagoner, The Fast Lane asked if there was anything truly shocking about the situation.
“It’s not shocking. Anyone that’s really been paying attention understands what’s really going on there,” Wagoner said.
“This isn’t a situation where the Rams are trying to trade Sam Bradford, it’s not a situation where Sam Bradford has asked to be traded. It’s a situation of trying to figure out how to gauge what the market value of Sam Bradford would be.”
The Rams would ultimately like a reduction in cost for the final year of Bradford’s contract in St. Louis. In order to find out what price would be fair for both sides moving forward, the team is allowing Bradford and his agent, Tom Condon to explore his worth throughout the league. While the team is technically letting Bradford explore the trade market, one reading between the lines can see he’s not necessarily bound for a flight out of town.
NFL agent and 101ESPN league insider Marc Lillibridge said teams around the league often do allow players to explore their options, with the goal of finding the best possible solution for both sides.
“It’s all about finding that happy medium. The Rams have a guy who they want to build their team around on the surface in Sam Bradford, but he’s had the injury problems, and it’s not a big free agent quarterback class,” Lillibridge said. “So if a team like Cleveland or Buffalo decide they may want to deal a pick this year or a number one next year, then the Rams would want to look at it just like they did with the RG3 deal.”
Lillibridge would not speculate on if he thought a Bradford trade would take place, but said he wouldn’t take anything off the table.
“That’s way above my paygrade. I don’t know what’s being talked about behind closed doors with the Rams, but the fact they’re talking about it means anything is possible.”
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