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  • #108244
    zn
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    Good win, nice job on the OL…when was the last time the Rams started 2 rookies on the OL?

    #108286
    Hram
    Participant

    Winning ugly is better than losing!

    #108288
    Agamemnon
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    Good win, nice job on the OL…when was the last time the Rams started 2 rookies on the OL?

    Brown and Havenstein. We still have a long way to go, but there was a lot of improvement shown by all.

    Agamemnon

    #108302
    JackPMiller
    Participant

    Nice job by the two rookies, Edwards & Evans. Goff was up & down. Defense is playing well. But next weeks game against Baltimore will show us if our Defense is for real.

    #108309
    InvaderRam
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    We still have a long way to go, but there was a lot of improvement shown by all.

    yeah. excited about edwards and evans. and noteboom and allen even (hope they can come back healthy). but a long way to go.

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    #108319
    canadaram
    Participant

    With the closer to normal workload for Gurley I will be interested to see if he has any issues with his knee going into this week’s game vs. Baltimore.

    #108320
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    I thought McVay was slow to adjust to the 6-1 front the Bears used in the second half. Once he did, the offense started rolling.

    Gurley looked rejuvenated.

    Goff’s numbers don’t reflect how well he played, IMO. He made some beautiful throws, and his numbers would have looked pretty good if not for a muff of a deep sideline pass that he dropped in over two defenders, and a 53 yard TD bomb that was called back. It was poetic because Collinsworth had just mentioned how the Rams didn’t have a deep threat with Woods and Cooks inactive, then on his very next breath Reynolds went flying past the Bears defense. Goff was clutch down the stretch.

    Defense was outstanding.

    #108321
    canadaram
    Participant

    It was nice to see Long getting involved on defense.

    #108324
    zn
    Moderator

    Goff’s numbers don’t reflect how well he played, IMO. He made some beautiful throws, and his numbers would have looked pretty good if not for a muff of a deep sideline pass that he dropped in over two defenders, and a 53 yard TD bomb that was called back.

    Goff was clutch down the stretch.

    +1” as the kids say on the internets.

    #108329
    wv
    Participant

    Haven’t seen it yet. How was this game different from the Steeler game? I mean, other than the final score.

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    #108331
    Billy_T
    Participant

    It was an up and down game for me. Liked the first half more than the second. The D saved the Rams. The O sputtered, mostly.

    As others have mentioned, the rooks played well. I think it was Collingsworth who went out of his way to praise Edwards and Evans, especially and often.

    It’s too early to tell, of course, after just one game of their pairing . . . but if they keep this up, the Rams have found their guard and RT for the present and the future — both are just 22. They need to try to trade Havenstein, though I’m guessing his contract is an impediment. No capologist, I, so I don’t know its impact. But I’m guessing it will be tough to make the trade.

    Woods was a last minute scratch, and I hope he’s okay. On a trivial note, that threw me out of whack for my FFL team. I have a lot of Rams — Cooks, Kupp, Woods, Gurley and Zuerlein, and because the scratch was so late in the day, I couldn’t find a way to replace that slot with my bench. I had to choose between an empty slot at wideout or kicker. I dropped Zuerlein and picked up Reynolds. Not sure if that was wise, but I had very few options.

    Again, hope he’s okay.

    Bottom line: A win is a win is a win, as Gertrude Stein once said. Happy to see that.

    #108332
    snowman
    Participant

    Haven’t seen it yet. How was this game different from the Steeler game? I mean, other than the final score.

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    The Rams ran the ball much more than previous games, Gurley had 25 carries plus a few from Malcolm Brown.The passing game was hit and miss for most of the game, but Goff clicked with Kupp and Reynolds late in the game for some gains. Everett made a nice catch too.

    The defense was strong in the first half, getting penetration after Trubisky and making sure tackles. The front four tired in the second half but still brought pressure. Forced a lot of third downs, IIRC. Ramsey and Hill were very sticky to their receiver assignments; Littleton did a good job covering the running backs.

    Zuerlein was visibly relieved to make his first kick by inches but was perfect after that. Hekker kicked three punts into the end zone, not a great night for him. Kick returners were OK, McQuaide was money.

    #108363
    InvaderRam
    Moderator

    goff’s season seems to be very similar to brees’ 2003 season – his third season in the league (age 24).

    this is goff’s fourth season – age 25.

    brees really struggled that season. his rating was 67.5 that year which ranked 28th in the league.

    goff this year has a rating of 82.1 which is good for 27th in the league.

    just numerous factors that are out of goff’s control. the oline has been in constant flux. gurley is not himself. not even close to himself.

    and when you look a little further, it’s not like brees didn’t have help. he had a peak ladainian tomlinson in the backfield (finished 3rd in the league in rushing that year). he was in his second year under schottenheimer and offensive coordinator cam cameron.

    goff still can make awesome throws. we saw it last night. he had at least 2 tds taken away from him (kupp fumble and reynolds td that was called back for illegal formation). against a bears defense that is ranked 8th in the league in total yards and 4th in scoring. without his 2 starting wrs. and an offensive line starting 2 rookies (in their age 22 seasons i should add).

    now some of it falls on him too. he makes some really questionable throws at times. but the thing is it never fazes him. he’s a tough guy. and much like he’s shown throughout his career, the guy overcomes adversity and becomes better from it. he’s going to continue to take his lumps this season. but i’m fairly confident he rises above it. and this will end up being a positive experience for him.

    #108367
    wv
    Participant

    I watched it. Geez, what an Ugly second half. Scrappy effort though, seein as how they were without Woods and Cooks.

    Course maybe if both WR’s had been in the game, McVay would have tried to pass 50 times, and Goff woulda gotten strip-sacked. Being forced to pound Gurley maybe saved the day. I dunno.

    Its nice having Clay Matthews back. The Defense is fun to watch.
    And I expect the D to keep them in the game for a while next week. But i figure the Ravens will blow them out in the second half. Coz I dont expect the offense to do much of anything.

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    #108380
    zn
    Moderator

    In terms of Goff, I don’t care about the early INT, he bounced back from that. He was pressing early but settled down. To me it’s important that he was clutch at the end. To me, being clutch when it counts weighs heavily. And he found his long ball again.

    Protection issues don’t work this way–if he was protected on play X he should produce. Game after game of high pressure messes with the qb and that is not cured automatically. You could see it took him a bit to settle in and trust what was happening. The INT and near INT came from pressing, which is a symptom of a qb trying to compensate for the OL…something he found during the game he did not have to do. He started letting the game come to him.

    The Goff I saw against Chicago was rough around the edges but good in the clutch at the end. He went against a defense that is 4th in points and 10th against the pass, a defense that unraveled him last year, and produced…and engineered a very good clutch “put the game away” drive.

    This was the drive that put the game away. Obviously at this point they opened things up and he produced, including a key 3rd down.

    Quarter Time Down ToGo Location
    4 7:42 1 10 RAM 29 Todd Gurley up the middle for 2 yards (tackle by Bilal Nichols and Roy Robertson-Harris)
    4 7:04 2 8 RAM 31 Jared Goff pass complete deep right to Josh Reynolds for 18 yards (tackle by Kyle Fuller)
    4 6:26 1 10 RAM 49 Jared Goff pass complete deep left to Josh Reynolds for 51 yards Penalty on LAR: Illegal Formation, 5 yards (no play)
    4 6:18 1 15 RAM 44 Todd Gurley left end for 1 yard (tackle by Prince Amukamara)
    4 5:37 2 14 RAM 45 Todd Gurley right guard for 7 yards (tackle by Nick Kwiatkoski and Aaron Lynch)
    4 5:06 3 7 CHI 48 Jared Goff pass complete short right to Josh Reynolds for 26 yards (tackle by Ha Ha Clinton-Dix)
    4 4:18 1 10 CHI 22 Malcolm Brown up the middle for -3 yards (tackle by Eddie Jackson)
    4 3:41 2 13 CHI 25 Jared Goff pass complete deep right to Gerald Everett for 20 yards (tackle by Ha Ha Clinton-Dix)
    4 3:35 1 5 CHI 5 Malcolm Brown up the middle for 5 yards, touchdown
    4 3:31 CHI 15 Greg Zuerlein kicks extra point good

    #108423
    nittany ram
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    #108427
    wv
    Participant

    In terms of Goff, I don’t care about the early INT, he bounced back from that. He was pressing early but settled down. To me it’s important that he was clutch at the end. To me, being clutch when it counts weighs heavily. And he found his long ball again.

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    Well like I’ve said before, I think Goff is “good enough” to win a ring, if he has a ringworthy team around him. I’m not concerned about Goff. As soon as I figured out that the OLine wasnt gonna work and Gurley wasnt Gurley anymore, I figured Goff would “regress.”

    As Waterfield likes to point out, everything starts with an OLine.

    If these two new OLine players prove to be good, Goff will regain his rhythm. But its way too soon for me to say the two new guys are good. One good game where they didnt have to pass block much, dont prove much.

    One thing I will complain about with Goff, is, his footwork has disappointed me. In his college vids, his footwork amazed me. He had this little dance he did in the pocket and he was very accurate on the move EVEN UNDER PRESSURE. It seemed a special talent. This year and late last year, his footwork has just seemed kinda average to me. Nothing special. I’m not sure what, if anything, to make of that.

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