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    Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher– Post Practice – September 18, 2014

    (On what he could learn from last year’s game against the Cowboys in trying to defend their run game)
    “Well, I think it will be more of a challenge this year. I think their offensive line is experienced. They’re playing really well together. We had some run fit issues that we have to take care of. We’ve had some matchup problems that we didn’t handle. So, we’ve had plenty of time. Obviously we’ve looked at some things through the offseason. Still as I mentioned yesterday, they rushed for 118 yards against the 49ers and that’s hard to do. So, we’re going to have be in the right place and guys are going to have to make plays.”

    (On what makes Cowboys RB DeMarco Murray so successful)
    “Well they’ll have an inside trap called in the a-gap and he’ll bounce it outside and just take it down the sideline. He’s going to pop it out any place. Those are the kind of things that are hard. So you read and react and everything and he’s not there, he’s someplace else.”

    (On if he can rephrase his last answer in layman’s terms)
    “Come on you know what I’m talking about (laughs). He can break the ball out any place. He’s a good cutback runner. He’s got great vision. He carries the ball in the both hands, I’m simplifying it for you now (jokes).”

    (On Murray’s size and strength)
    “He’s strong, he breaks tackles. One of the things that happens in every game is he’ll bounce outside and people underestimate his speed and he’ll get the corner. That becomes the problem. So we have to be edge proficient, if you will.”

    (On if Cowboys QB Tony Romo’s back is still bothering him)
    “He’s making throws. He’s making a lot of throws. I would not attribute the interceptions to his back against the 49ers, they just happened. He’s making good decisions. He’s still making all the throws. There’s been some criticism that he’s not taking the ball down the field. He can still do it. He had a big play last week against Tennessee.”

    (On Cowboys WR Dez Bryant’s shoulder injury last week)
    “He comes back in the game and plays well. It’s a tough matchup for us. He’s physical. He’s got the run after catch skills. He’s got a big catch radius. He’s their go to guy down there. Once you get inside the plus territory, he’s the guy that catches the ball. He’s their touchdown maker.”

    (On if Cowboys TE Jason Witten has slowed down at all)
    “Has not lost a step. So, it’s a good football team.”

    (On if the starting quarterback decision is still a day-to-day game)
    “Yes. Shaun (Hill) was limited today, he did more. But we’re still day-to-day. It will most likely be a pregame decision like it was last week.”

    (On if QB Austin Davis will be challenged if he starts this Sunday because teams have a full game tape on him)
    “No, I think we really didn’t change the offense. That’s the question that’s frequently asked. Were we going to change it when we went to Shaun? No. Were we going to change it when we to Austin? No. It’s our offense. That’d be unfair to the rest of the players. We’ve not changed the offense people prepared for us. On a weekly basis, you have different things that you put in or you got to based on the specific game plan. I don’t think just because they got a full regular season on tape that it’s going to make a difference.”

    (On the Dallas defense)
    “They’ve had some injuries up front. They’re starting to get some people healthy. We don’t know the status of the middle linebacker (Rolando McClain), but he’s played well the last two weeks. They’ll get (CB Orlando) Scandrick back, which is certainly going to help them. It’s a good defense. It’s a good scheme. It’s a sound scheme. You have to be patient. You have to mix your run and your play action to try and make plays on them.”

    (On WR Stedman Bailey’s performance)
    “’Sted’ was great. Just same as he was yesterday, he was good.”

    (On if he was impressed with the poise of Davis’ appearance at a fan event went last Monday)
    “I was there…It wasn’t the same place but we didn’t overlap.”

    Rams Offensive Coordinator Brian Schottenheimer – September 18, 2014

    (On QB Austin Davis and his performance against Tampa Bay)
    “Really wasn’t surprised. He had a real good week of practice. I think obviously, you get thrown into a game the week before certainly you kind of go into a little bit of a panic mode. But having a week to prepare having been here for three years I thought he did a really good job. Love the way he made plays in the clutch, it wasn’t perfect but again he moved the team. Got us in and out of the right plays and made some big time throws down the clutch to help us win the game.”

    (On if Davis still has room for improvement)
    “Absolutely. There are things that we’d like to have back from the game, a few throws here and there , a few decisions. Played really, really well and like I said I’m not surprised. Very pleased with what he did, but not surprised.”

    (On how Davis in terms of being in the pocket and having his eyes down the field to make plays in high pressure moments)
    “He’s always been real athletic. That’s one of the first things we really liked about him. He was real athletic going back to his first year as a rookie coming out of Southern Miss. I think him working with (Quarterbacks Coach Frank) Coach Cignetti on some of the pocket movement stuff certainly helps. But really the only way to do it is to get out there and play. Certainly by going against our defense in practice when he was running the scout team stuff, you get a lot of work on that because obviously they are very good at rushing the passer. It’s something he’s worked on. The hardest part of doing that is not the movement part, he’s got those skills, it’s keeping your eyes up and kind of seeing where your receivers are going. ”

    (On if Davis running out of the pocket too early was a point of emphasis to work on when he returned to the team)
    “I think so. There were a lot of things for him to improve, still are. Again he’s got to put another good game together this week. He’s not going to be satisfied, we’re not going to be satisfied with just one goodgame. That was something again when he came back he had a plan. He came back in great shape. He really worked hard this offseason, spent some time doing some stuff on his own. He came back ready to play and ready to compete. ”

    (On if Davis is the same guy this week now that he has fame and fortune)
    “I don’t know how much fortune he has. He is, he’s just a great guy. I tell you what, his leadership ability that’s not easy. You come from being a third string quarterback, you step in the huddle with some strong personalities and he’s handled it terrific. The guys respect him and again I think that’s a big part of what we’re trying to build is a next man up type of deal. He certainly did that and hopefully he’ll do it again this week. ”

    (On what his biggest concern was going into last week and if there were any unforeseen aspects that worried him)
    “From him? No, I don’t think so. Again, he had a real good preseason. I was very comfortable calling plays for him in the preseason. Man, that’s a big thing for a play caller. When the quarterback’s in there, if you trust him and you know he’ll do right by you and make good decisions that certainly helps. He proved that to me in the preseason. I was very comfortable. Again, third-and-one call we make I trust him to make the play. He makes a big play to (TE) Lance (Kendricks) for a big gain. And if there’s a bigger throw last weekend than the one he made to ‘AP’ (WR Austin Pettis) standing in there under duress on kind of a game winner if you will, that was a big time throw. Again, you see it out here in practice that makes it easy for a play caller, staff, even the players in the huddle to believe in him. ”

    (On if he is definitely expecting Davis to start Sunday)
    “No, Shaun’s (Hill) doing a little bit more today. He’s getting better, again we’re going to look at it game time and see what happens, but I think Austin’s ready to go. We’ll see how Shaun does tomorrow, each day he’s getting better so we’ll see.”

    (On if there need to be improvements in the run game specifically in yards per carry)
    “Yeah, absolutely. Again, we know we’ll get heavy boxes and people trying to stop the run. We need to create some explosive runs. We get guys in the secondary creating seams, they got to be able to take advantage of that. But it’s a process, I hope we get better this week, need to be better this week. That certainly takes pressure off of us by getting in second-down and manageable, third-down and manageable. But we go well when we’re balanced and we run the football. When teams take that away from us we tend to struggle a little bit, so hopefully we’ll like always try to get the running game going and generate a few more explosive plays. ”

    (On if his formula is 50 carries plus completions)
    “Fifty completions and rushing attempts.”

    (On how the pass block was against Tampa Bay)
    “Very good. Yeah, that was a good group. They lost a few of their guys but again they did some good stuff. That front four obviously very talented. I thought we did a nice job all the way around. Again, Austin did a nice job of not holding on to the ball, that’s a big part of it. I think the week before when he got thrown in the mix he kind of held the ball a little bit long kind of looking for his receivers. Certainly the timing was better having a week of preparation but the pass-pro was solid.”

    (On if the Cowboys have a cover 2 look)
    “No, it’s really not. I mean they go by that name but we’re going to get post-safety. They’re going to get up in our face and press us play tight man-to-man. Their a post-safety defense. Two good safeties again getting (S Orlando) Scandrick back certainly helps, we’ll see what they do with him. Front four they play as hard as anybody. They do a good job of movement and stuff like that, so it’ll be a terrific challenge. They got after us pretty good last year down in Dallas. But the ‘Tampa Two’ nickname is just a nickname. They’re going to be post-safety, kind of down in our face challenging us, bringing a lot of pressure and stuff like that.”

    (On how he handles public opinion and their need to suggest team decisions)
    “Quite honestly I don’t listen too much on what the public has to say to be honest with you. Certainly Iunderstand they all have opinions, but we go by what we see. We go by what we believe. We have a philosophy. You win a game, you lose a game, you move on to the next game. You prepare the best you can. We try to put together good game plans and then go out and trust our players. Again, when I said the big thing for us is, I expect Austin to do this is I think he’ll go out and play well. But it’s certainly not just Austin that’s going to have to go and help us when this game it’s going to be the whole team. Offensively, again running the football, guys making plays and that’s what it’s going to come down to. ”

    Rams Special Teams Coordinator John Fassel – September 18, 2014

    (On his evaluation of the special teams unit through two games)
    “Two games in, I’d probably reserve judgment on success or the lack off. We’re playing hard. We’ve rotated some new bodies in there, which is always good to get some new blood. Yeah, it’s still to be determined.”

    (On if he was surprised with SS T.J. McDonald’s performance last week)
    “No, I’m not surprised at all. I’m actually, I was surprised last year that he just missed on a couple of them, which are almost the same exact thing. He does it in practice and sure enough he did it in the game.”

    (On the translation of McDonald’s skill set to his ability to block kicks)
    “Really it’s an instinctive thing. He’s got great length. He’s got a great ability to bend and turn. And he’s got good timing like on the field goal block, a lot of that has to do with timing. It’s an instinctive thing that I can’t really coach him, he just kind of has that ability.”

    (On the return game so far)
    “Definitely room for improvement. On kickoff return, the first game we had one return and it was decent, it got to the 20 (-yard line) I think. Then the two, we had on kickoff return in Tampa the guy (Buccaneers K Patrick Murray) hit into the short left corner. We kind of got stuck, it’s a hard ball to dig out of the corner. It was a mishit kick. The return we had called was a tough one to dig out of the corner. There’s obviously room for improvement. But with three returns and two of them off of mishit kickoffs, we’ll judge it a little later when we get some true balls. Then on punt return, it’s unfortunate because I think we’ve got a really good punt return team. Two balls we muffed in the first game. In this past game it was a good hang time ball and there wasn’t a lot of space. We’ll continue to get better. It takes the right ball to get the right return. We’re being patient.”

    (On the possibility of replacing WR Tavon Austin on punt return this week)
    “It’s still, I guess, wait and see. We’ve got a couple options, which is good. We’re fortunate that we have a couple guys that can catch punts. They have a lefty this week, so that adds a little element to it. We’ll be alright. The guys we have back there, they’ll do a good job catching it. Hopefully the blockers can get us some more yards.”

    (On if it was a confidence booster for K Greg Zuerlein going four-for-four in field goals)
    “It was great. The preseason, we experiment with things in the preseason. Whether it’s people think he’s lost confidence, we were experimenting with different things. He missed the first kick against Minnesota. He hit a great ball he just hit it straight left. So, I wasn’t surprised. He’s got great confidence. He’s got great ball striking right now. I imagine he’ll continue with that.”

    (On Dallas’ punt rushing ability)
    “They rush a lot. They got a couple of really good players. (WR/KR/PR) Dwayne Harris not only returning punts and kickoffs but covering punts and kickoffs. He’s a high quality core teams guy. (S) C.J. Spillman, came from San Francisco, so we know him from the past couple of years. They got a second year DB (No.) 38 (S Jeff Heath) who’s a good ball player. They’re a fast team, probably faster than we’ve played so far and some veteran guys. It’ll be a good test.”

    (On if he talks to Zuerlein before the timeouts are called)
    “No, but we practice it all the time. I’ll let him kick and then we’ll be in a situation and sometimes I’ll call the timeout to ice him. Sometimes I’ll act like I’m going to call it and not call it. We practice situations in our field goal period. His assumption every time he lines up is that the ball is going to be snapped and I’m going to kick it. Even if they call a time out and we snap, but we’re still going to kick it.”

    (On the field conditions in Tampa Bay after the lightning delay)
    “They were tough. Especially you could see on Greg’s kickoffs and their kicker, he hit two bad balls into that left corner and Greg had those same issues, he just didn’t get the ball in the air. That’s why it was even more impressive with his field goals, because they were all in the high-30s to high-40 range. In those tough conditions we can’t back out. The field was in good shape it was just pretty slick.”

    (On if it was the plan to kick the line drives)
    “No, we never try and really kick a line drive. None of those were intentional. It just had a lot to with the field surface. Greg struggled with that and their kicker struggled with it on the kickoffs.”

    (On if the strategy is to always kick a touchback)
    “I’d say for the most part. There are some other strategies where we have different kicks. We would never hit a purposeful hot squib. That’s kind of what happened. We stay away from that one. For the most part, yeah, you’re trying to bang it.”

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    McLeod proving doubters wrong as one of Rams’ McSafeties
    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/mcleod-proving-doubters-wrong-as-one-of-rams-mcsafeties/article_8d826777-9423-58d1-ba9c-35fc8da06b4c.html

    That little shimmy by free safety Rodney McLeod after his second-quarter interception was no impromptu celebration.

    “It’s just a little dance that me and T.J. (McDonald) put together right before the game,” he said.

    Apparently, it’s part of the weekly pregame ritual for the Rams’ McSafeties. It’s all about being prepared for success.

    “If we make plays, this is what we’re gonna do today,” McLeod explained. “It’s just something that we’ve got going on.”

    McLeod told McDonald before Sunday’s 19-17 victory over Tampa Bay that he was going to get an interception.

    Hard to explain but he just had that feeling.

    “I thought if we got good pressure on (Josh) McCown, he’d most likely to throw one up,” McLeod said.

    McCown, the Tampa Bay quarterback, did just that early in the second quarter of a 7-7 game. The Bucs were knocking on the door with a first-and-goal from the St. Louis 9.

    But linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar flushed McCown out of the pocket on a blitz, and then linebacker James Laurinaitis came bearing down on McCown. Instead of taking the sack, or throwing the ball away, McCown threw it up for grabs in the general direction of wide receiver Vincent Jackson.

    There was just one problem with that decision: Jackson was being double-covered, with cornerback Janoris Jenkins behind him and McLeod in front.

    “He did a crossing route,” McLeod said. “Basically I just read the quarterback. He made a bad decision and James got good pressure on him.”

    It wasn’t an easy interception. The ball was thrown low and away, and McLeod lunged to keep it off the ground.

    “Gotta give credit to the hands, the gloves. Fresh gloves,” McLeod said, laughing.

    McLeod wears a new set of gloves each week on game day.

    “That was a big point (in the game),” McDonald said of his teammate’s play. “They were close to scoring, we don’t give up any points. We give the ball back to our offense, get a lot of juice, a little momentum going.”

    It marked the first interception, and only takeaway, for the Rams this season. Without McLeod’s INT, the third of his three-year NFL career, the outcome might’ve been different. Even if Tampa had to settle for a field goal, that might have been enough in what turned out to be a two-point game.

    McLeod joined the Rams in 2012, the first year of the Jeff Fisher-Les Snead regime, as an undrafted rookie out of Virginia. He led the Rams in special teams tackles that year (16), then took advantage of preseason injuries to Darian Stewart to earn a job at safety in 2013. He started all 16 games, recording 87 tackles and two interceptions.

    Even so, the general consensus this past offseason was that the Rams needed to upgrade the position, find a free safety with more range.

    Granted, it’s just two games into the season, but McLeod is proving doubters wrong. He has shown improved range and has taken quickly to defensive coordinator Greg Williams’ system.

    “I think it just comes with experience, and the coaching we get from OTAs to training camp with Gregg coming in, and Chuck (Cecil), and all those guys just getting us right,” McLeod said.

    Cecil is the Rams’ secondary coach.

    Even before the start of the regular season, Williams has been impressed with McLeod.

    “Rodney has just been one of the most pleasant surprises for me — his instincts on playing the free safety position,” Williams told the Post-Dispatch in a late-August interview.

    “Chuck Cecil did a good job talking to me about him when I first got here. Chuck was very high on him and wanted me to make sure that I was patient with the evaluation process on him. I think Rodney does a phenomenal job on picking up the nuances of how we want our safeties to play.”

    Williams continued: “The free safety and the middle linebacker have to be a direct extension of the play-caller and what we do. He’s sharp intellectually. He’s sharp in big-picture understanding of the game.”

    An added bonus is that McLeod has become a more aggressive tackler this season than he showed previously, whether it be in coverage or in run support.

    “I just think it’s the mentality that Gregg instilled in us from Day 1,” McLeod. “You know the mentality that he has.”

    Yeah, if you’re coming in this neighborhood, you’re going to have to pay a toll.

    “There’s been nothing but good stuff going on from Day 1 in this system,” McLeod said.

    It’s a system not too different from the scheme run in 2012, when Williams was serving his one-year “Bountygate” suspension and his son Blake was de facto defensive coordinator.

    Now in their second season starting together, McLeod and strong safety McDonald are developing a good rapport on the field.

    They complement each other well, with McLeod usually playing deep in coverage, and McDonald frequently playing near the line of scrimmage, or blitzing, or covering tight ends.

    “With T.J., what I don’t have, he has,” McLeod said. “We just work well together. It just works out.”

    Fisher likes the way things are working out so far.

    “Both the safeties have played very well the last two weeks,” Fisher said. “Now, we missed some tackles, but everybody’s going to miss tackles. … But I think considering where we were last year, they’ve come a long, long way. I’m happy for them.”

    RAM-BLING

    Linebacker Kevin Reddick has been released from the team’s practice squad. Defensive lineman Matt Conrath is expected to take his place.

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    Burwell: Fisher is wise to avoid drama
    • By BRYAN BURWELL

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bryan-burwell/burwell-fisher-is-wise-to-avoid-drama/article_04629054-525e-5f87-a783-03c0d67b2e9e.html

    Through his entire 20-year career as a pro football head coach, Jeff Fisher has never committed the folly of being led into the nasty riptide of a full-fledged NFL quarterback controversy. From Houston to Nashville, from struggling teams on the rebuild to gifted teams on the championship prowl, there was no circumstance that would draw him into that divisive swirl that every coach abhors and wants to avoid.

    So now, just two games into this rather unusual 2014 season, the Rams’ coach isn’t about to let the swelling popular support for young Austin Davis suck him into the turbulence.

    The Rams have no quarterback controversy because Fisher says they don’t.

    “You can ask me again, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, if you want,” Fisher told a gathering of reporters Monday evening. “You’re going to get the same answer.”

    That answer is this: When healthy, Shaun Hill is his starting QB.

    Let me make this a little easier for you to decipher.

    When healthy, Shaun Hill is his starting QB.

    But Hill isn’t healthy and probably won’t be for another two weeks or so.

    So of course what the coach won’t admit is that there really is no QB controversy because of an obvious technicality.

    So it’s easy to publicly stick by the 13-year veteran Hill with 26 career NFL starts over the neophyte Davis, with one NFL start under his belt. But none of that matters right now, because Hill’s still too gimpy to play and contribute at full speed and Davis has proven that, with the right preparation, he can manage his way through an NFL game with some noticeable skill and competence.

    So even as the public clamors for Fisher to make some declaration that the new kid on the block has leapfrogged Hill on the depth chart, the coach won’t do it, and I don’t blame him.

    There’s really no decision to make, so why bother making one that will only stir things up unnecessarily?

    This is one of those moments that Tony La Russa, the baseball Cardinals’ old Hall of Fame manager, used to love. Reporters would crowd into his office with these wonderful hypothetical questions that asked La Russa to suspend the present and delve into the future … of course (wink, wink) just for the sake of conversation.

    The manager would grin, shrug his shoulders and tell anyone within earshot that he wouldn’t answer the question because he didn’t need to. If and when the hypothetical situation became a reality, then and only then would La Russa ponder it publicly.

    This is pretty much what Fisher is doing regarding his quarterbacks. It might make for delicious fodder for sports talk show chatter and maybe a few clashing columns or two, but the coach isn’t going to bite on this hypothetical because he doesn’t have to. You don’t create a mess if there is no need to create one. You don’t stir up trouble when there is no need. You don’t generate a false competition when none exists. Hill isn’t likely to be ready to play this weekend against Dallas, which means the starting job is in Davis’ hands for at least another game.

    So this week, Fisher will play it coy for all the obvious competitive reasons, listing Hill on the injury report as questionable, maybe giving him a few reps during practice and telling us once again it will be a game-time decision.

    But he probably already knows that it makes no sense to rush Hill back when the best thing for him and the team is to allow Hill to patiently rehab and return only when he is 100 percent healthy. Fisher isn’t blowing smoke when he offers Hill those reassuring words that the No. 1 job is his, based on the glaring fact that Hill’s body of work (34 total NFL games and 959 career pass attempts) is far more conclusive than the small sample size of Davis, who now has thrown a grand total of 52 NFL passes.

    The reluctance to proclaim Davis No.1 is simple. We don’t have enough information to know if Davis is a flash in the pan or a rising star, and one game isn’t enough to get an NFL wise guy like Fisher all giddy with the sort of puppy love that is afflicting most Rams loyalists.

    But Fisher has seen enough to know that maybe, just maybe, they could be on to something with Davis, and it’s worth exploring what the kid’s ultimate ability could be for a bit longer. While the starter’s job may ultimately return to Hill’s hands the moment he is healthy, there is still an element of competition that can’t — and probably won’t — be ignored by Fisher.

    Davis has been in the NFL long enough to know that every time you are on the field you are putting something on tape for the entire league to observe. This is the NFL equivalent of a flash-mob audition. He has been thrown into the starting lineup and for as long as it lasts, he has the opportunity to change Jeff Fisher’s mind.

    Even as Fisher steadfastly sticks to his “there is no controversy” mantra, he understands that talent is always capable of trumping experience. Davis needs to keep improving, keep showing that the things he did against Tampa Bay were not a fluke. He needs to get out on that practice field this week and in the meeting rooms all week and make a lasting impression on everyone at Rams Park.

    Sunday was a mighty fine start, but that is all it was: a start.

    What comes next will determine if he’s a lot closer to being the next Kurt Warner or the next Scott Covington.

    It was hard not to notice how much better and more confident Davis grew as the game went on. Fisher saw it when he was on the field and on the sidelines, and he loved what he saw.

    “He was in complete control,” said the coach. “If there’s a timeout here or a timeout there or whatever the situation was, we’re talking (to him) and he goes, ‘I got it.’ He felt good about what we were doing. He did a real nice job checking out of some things and getting us into some other things. The line of scrimmage was stacked yesterday and (Tampa’s) opinion was probably that Austin wasn’t going to beat them with his arm, and he did. He made some great plays, made some great throws. He understood exactly what we needed to do.”

    The best thing Davis can do now is keep winning. You know what they say about winning, right? It solves everything, including any real or imagined QB controversy that might be percolating.

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    I still think the run D needs time.

    My good friend, I am always rather amazed at expressions like this.

    I mean, why on earth would they “need more time”? Year three. Coaches with big reps for defense. A prior year experience to learn from in which they started out horribly, not ready for the season. Primarily veteran personnel apart from Donald who is one of the few playing well. An entire off- and pre-season. 2 games in.

    Why the hell should they need more time? Other defenses don’t need more time to be at least solid against the run. We’ve faced 2 already that were well prepared for our rather decent running game.

    You know, fans show patience and impatience in unpredictable ways for different issues. I’m always bemused by that. E.g. why people demanded elite performance from Sam right away and why they accept very slow progress with little payoff from a defense that should be a lot better by now.

    For me, the performance of this defense for the last 6 weeks is unacceptable. Of course, I’m just a fan. What I accept means nothing. And I’m not ready to say “Off with their heads … fire them all.”

    Maybe I’m as impatient with the consensus viewpoint of fans and pundits as I am with the defense itself. I don’t hear people telling what appears to me to be the truth. I see vague references to the defense–and for that matter the OL–having settled down against TB and played better. I see little challenge to the meme that ours is an emerging elite defense.

    Well, it isn’t. Maybe–maybe!–it will grow into one. But this defense has looked awful against a spotty Viking offense and a completely forgettable TB attack. It plays soft and without discipline and it doesn’t know how to get off the field until its back is to the goal line. IF the talent is as good as everyone believes, then the performances are really unacceptable. If not, then there’ve been a lot of wasted draft picks. Either way, this defense is a fraud … so far at least.

    By virtue of the absurd ...

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    Rams-Buccaneers: Seven for Sunday
    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-buccaneers-seven-for-sunday/article_97e35345-2d04-5bfa-973a-c4d4335e4485.html

    The last time the Rams faced Josh McCown, he was with Chicago. They sacked him only once but swarmed around him all day like killer bees. By the end of the Rams’ 42-21 victory last Nov. 24, they had 17 QB pressures, 10 QB hits and McCown was one giant bruise. McCown frequently holds onto the ball too long, but can scramble when needed. “He’s tough,” Rams linebacker James Laurinaitis said. “He proved that last year playing us because we got some real shots on him. … But he just kept getting up and kept getting up, and was really trying to lead them back in that game. I thought it was a really gutsy performance.” McCown threw only one interception in 224 passes last year for the Bears; he had two interceptions in his first 16 throws for the Bucs last week against Carolina. Even with the bad start, he nearly rallied Tampa from a 17-0 deficit in what became a 20-14 loss.

    BIG TARGETS

    The Bucs may have the tallest WR tandem in the NFL in veteran Vincent Jackson and rookie Mike Evans — both are 6-5 and in the 230-pound range. Jackson’s a three-time Pro Bowler, has posted five 1,000-yard receiving seasons and is a downfield threat with a career average of 17.4 yards per catch. Evans, who paid a pre-draft visit to the Rams, was chosen seventh overall in May. Rams starting CBs Janoris Jenkins and E.J. Gaines both stand 5-10.

    ON THE RUN

    The Bucs got a surprising 54-yard run by 258-pound fullback Jorvorskie Lane against Carolina. Otherwise their run game was non-existent with Doug Martin and Bobby Rainey combining for 21 yards on 13 carries against the formidable Panthers front seven. Martin didn’t finish the game because of a knee injury; Rainey had a costly fumble. Undoubtedly, the Bucs will try to get their ground game going against the Rams, who yielded 185 yards rushing in Week 1.

    WEAK SPOT?

    The interior of the Tampa Bay offensive line struggled in the preseason, to the point that the Bucs kicked the tires on bad-boy guard Richie Incognito and then traded with New England for six-time Pro Bowl guard Logan Mankins in late August. Mankins suffered a knee injury against Carolina. Even with Mankins in the lineup, the Rams could do some damage with their DT rotation, or by stunting and looping their DEs inside.

    LOVIE’S DEFENSE

    The Cover 2 scheme, with both safeties playing in a deep shell and the secondary in zone coverage, remains the staple of coach Lovie Smith’s philosophy. As Smith showed during his tenure as Rams defensive coordinator (2001-2003), it puts a premium on keeping the ball in front of you to prevent the big play, swarming to the football and creating turnovers. It can force QBs, especially inexperienced ones, to be patient making their reads.

    WHERE’S THE RUSH?

    In order for the Cover 2 to dominate, it relies on a four-man pass rush and not much blitzing, which allows seven men to drop in coverage. But the Buccaneers have had trouble generating a pass rush, and had only one sack vs. Carolina — by arguably their best overall player, defensive tackle Gerald McCoy. McCoy was taken No. 3 in a 2010 draft, in which QB Sam Bradford went first and DT Ndamukong Suh second. He can be a game-changing player.

    CALLING ALL TEs

    Carolina tight end Greg Olsen was all over the place against Tampa Bay, with eight catches for 83 yards and a touchdown. He almost had another TD running deep down the middle, but the pass was overthrown by QB Derek Anderson. Tampa Bay safeties had trouble staying with Olsen, and the Buccaneers’ linebackers, although fast, left some holes in coverage. This could be a chance for Jared Cook and Lance Kendricks to rack up some yards.

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    RamView, September 7, 2014
    From Row HH
    (Report and opinions from the game.)
    Game #1: Vikings 34, Rams 6

    We waited nine months. We waited through 12 other teams’ playoff runs, through a division rival’s Super Bowl win. We waited through all-star games and the Combine. Through free agency and the draft. We waited through OTAs and training camp and preseason games for this week to come. Nine months we waited. And we got garbage. Absolute. Garbage. This sure wasn’t a fun season while it didn’t last.

    Position by position:
    * QB: The Rams don’t need Sam Bradford to be successful this season, or so we heard. Shaun Hill’s better than Kellen Clemens, more accurate, won’t make stupid throws. I actually pushed that last argument myself. Took one week for it to push back. Hill (8-13-81, PR 47.3) was all right most of the first half. He started 5-for-5 and hit Brian Quick (!) on a couple of intermediate routes, so his game wasn’t just a bunch of checkdowns. He had drives killed by penalties, receiver mistakes and deteriorating line play. The end of the opening drive looked like Hill’s fault for failing to detect a fairly easy-to-identify blitz. He ultimately failed in his assignment right before halftime with a game-changing mistake. Hill rolled out under pressure and tried to hit Jared Cook on the sideline, but Cook was double-covered, and the only wise throw in that direction would have been a throwaway. Maybe that’s what Hill was trying, but his throw was snagged by Josh Robinson for an INT and shortly turned into a 13-0 hammerlock on the game for the Vikings. Hill gave way at halftime due to a quad injury, so, yes, the Rams’ franchise QB couldn’t make it to the regular season, and his backup couldn’t even make it to halftime of the first game. In the 2nd half, the offensive line gave way on Austin Davis (16-23-192, PR 76.7), who must have had a hard time telling this game from a preseason game. Davis threaded an early pass over Cook’s shoulder for 26, but got sacked later, also failing to recognize a blitz, to make the Rams settle for a long FG. That was the tale of the game for Davis, who struggled to find open receivers and, lacking enough time to throw, was sacked four times and had other drives end on dumpoffs because that was all he could find. He led the Rams to a 2nd FG, but not before Minnesota hit him for a pick-six, with Harrison Smith stepping in front of a route Cook didn’t look real interested in running out to peg the Rams’ embarrassment meter at 11. Failing to identify blitzes pre-snap, only throwing one legitimate deep ball, forcing throws, poor decisions under pressure, Davis’ slowness reading the field – quarterbacking may not be the biggest of the Rams’ problems, but it’s a problem.

    * RB: The Ram passing game doesn’t stretch the field vertically; the running game doesn’t stretch the field horizontally. Zac Stacy (11-43) had a couple of decent runs and showed more cutback ability than usual, but didn’t look like his usual tackle-breaking, pile-moving self, and, per usual, didn’t get much room to run up the middle anyway. He also dropped an open screen pass on what looked like a pivotal play early in the game. Benny Cunningham (5-21) was an effective change of pace when he first entered the game in the 2nd, getting 14 yards on 3 carries, but the Rams made sure to get away from that. Cunningham added 4 catches for 30 yards, mainly during trash time, when he was next heard from. Might as well talk about Tavon Austin (3-5 rush, 3-34 recv) here, since the Rams apparently think he is also a between-the-tackles running back now. I saw it in training camp, but didn’t truly appreciate the lunacy of having the tiny Austin run up the middle until I saw guys twice his size landing on him this week. And though Austin has some moves as an interior runner, the real lunacy is the Rams’ continued refusal to get the ball to him while he’s on the move. More on that later. The Rams are supposed to be a running team, but between their inability to block for it and their inability to call a coherent game plan for it, they ran nowhere this week.

    * WR: First of all, hooray for Brian Quick (7-99), who had easily the best game of his pro career. Quick hit the Vikings for 22- and 19-yard crossing routes during the Rams’ first two drives. Simple routes against soft zone coverage, but Quick ran the routes well and played the ball like a go-to receiver. He made a couple of significant errors that we’ll hope are growing pains. He nullified one of his own big plays in the 2nd with what looked like an accidental grab of a facemask while putting out a stiffarm, and the Rams settled for a FG in the 1st when he ran a comeback route about a step short on 3rd down. Quick’s one of about three Rams who didn’t completely embarrass themselves this week; this was a good game for a not-finished product. I’ll guess I’m breaking news here that Kenny Britt (0-0) has already thrown 2 or 3 tantrums on the Ram sideline. I spotted him yelling at coaches a couple of times. There was also a third down where he was wide open deep, but Davis never had a chance of seeing him; send in the punt team while Britt rips his helmet off and fumes his way to the sideline. With everything else the Rams have going wrong, a Britt meltdown is close to the last thing they need, but I think I’ve gotta sound a yellow alert there. I don’t think Chris Givens (2-30) really did anything until garbage time. Quick was basically the only WR this week.

    * Tight ends: Jared Cook’s (4-56) 2014 opener was much like a lot of his 2013 season. He was MIA until garbage time, where he could flash enough to look useful while still making a play that made him look useless. His over-the-shoulder catch for 26 from Davis, with a man draped all over him, was as nice a catch as you’re going to see. But Cook was no help to Davis in the 4th on Harrison Smith’s pick-six. Nothing wrong with Davis’ throw; Cook didn’t come strong out of his break (a known habit of his), allowing Smith to jump the throw. Davis put the ball where Cook should have been. Lance Kendricks (2-12) and Corey Harkey (1-4) weren’t significant factors other than a handful of decent run blocks.

    * Offensive line: Offensive line was the Rams’ biggest worry throughout training camp. Even rank amateurs like me knew it. And this week they were all-but dominated by a Minnesota defensive line that no one really believed was all that good coming in. Rank amateurs pointed out last week that Scott Wells vs. Linval Joseph would be a decisive matchup. And Wells lost it decisively. Linval didn’t spend the game in the Rams’ backfield, but Wells could never budge him, either, leaving the Rams’ middle running lanes clogged. Wells was beaten by a quick swim move for a sack in the 4th, with Linval taking down Davis while Wells appeared to wander around lost. Wells also sprayed shotgun snaps around like Rick Ankiel throwing batting practice. How many years has this guy been in the league again? The Rams benched the #2 pick in the draft so they could start the esteemed Davin Joseph at RG. We can’t have Greg Robinson out there, you know, because he might get consistently beat in pass protection, get Hill hit and presumably injured on a sack/fumble before halftime or get manhandled so badly on a sweep to Austin in the 2nd that he practically made the tackle himself. And, news flash, Rodger Saffold got hurt! The guards were poor in pass protection and had a handful of good run blocks between them. They did each have a false start, though. Things went no better on the edges. Joseph Barksdale gave up at least a half-dozen pressures, including one that panicked Hill into his bad INT before halftime. The cherry on this Hall of Shame performance was Everson Griffen beating Jake Long for sacks on back-to-back plays in the 4th. Long may not have wrecked a QB’s season this week, but he and Barksdale got beat to their outside shoulder frequently, and the Rams’ pass protection looked more like a funnel designed to divert all the traffic to the QB. There’s a lot invested in this offensive line that just lost soundly at the line of scrimmage to the #31 defense from last year, minus Jared Allen, at that. They’ll be a lot better off when they’ve had enough snaps together to gel, we’re told. Of course, if they’re all rubbish like they were this week, what’s that supposed to gel into?

    * Defensive line: The Ram defensive line has be dominant to win the team games, and though they contained Adrian Peterson (21-75) well enough, they were nowhere near dominant, thanks to quick passing and to flanker Cordarrelle Patterson (3-102) jet-sweeping them to death. They didn’t start well – Chris Long got pinned inside by the tight end to trigger a 13-yard Patterson run, and Robert Quinn kept the opening drive alive with a dubious roughing penalty, but the secondary shut the drive down late to force a FG. Long got pinned inside again when Peterson started the next drive with a 17-yard run, but Quinn got a hit on Matt Cassel later to force a bad throw and stall out the drive. Cassel, though, by getting the ball out quickly all game, turned Sack City into more of a sleepy bedroom community. His quick throws led Minnesota to a FG in the 2nd, helped by a 23-yard Patterson sweep that William Hayes started with a missed tackle. The only Rams sack was created by a wild shotgun snap just before halftime. Unfortunately, Hill followed that with an interception, and the Vikings made the Rams’ aggression work against them with quick short passes and play-action to move out to a 13-point halftime lead. Long continued to struggle to get off blocks in the running game in the 3rd until a teammate stepped on his ankle, ending his day. Then Patterson stuck a 67-yard TD dagger in them. Hayes and others were blocked at the point of attack to turn Patterson loose. Quinn chased him for 40 yards only to blow a tackle. Michael Brockers chased him for 60 yards only to blow a tackle. A for effort. F for results. With Minnesota sitting on a big lead in the 4th, Aaron Donald started flashing the speed that got him drafted, flashing into the backfield three different times to bust up handoffs to Peterson. A stupid special teams penalty gave the Vikings the ball back, though, and they again foiled Ram aggression with a dumpoff to the backup TE that sealed their 3rd TD and turned a game that was toast into burned toast. It’s not a good sign that it took the league exactly one week to figure out how to escape from Sack City. Get the ball out quickly, let Gregg Williams blitz the D out of plays, run right at Long and Hayes and the rookie corner. Sack City’s going to have to find a way to get the streets back open quickly.

    * Linebackers: LB play was also a letdown. Peterson took off for 17 to start Minnesota’s 2nd drive thanks to Alec Ogletree’s poor fill and James Laurinaitis getting blocked well before he could get into the play. Patterson jetted off for 23 the next drive with the help of whiffs by Laurinaitis and Jo-Lonn Dunbar. 1st-and-20 in the 3rd, AP takes off for 15 as Laurinaitis again can’t get off a block and Ogletree can’t get enough of a drop back from his initial blitzing position on the line. On Patterson’s TD run, Ogletree was blocked easily by Kyle Rudolph and Dunbar failed attempting to grab him at midfield. Dunbar was in on several stuffs of Peterson, but other than that, the LB corps just wasn’t effective. Ogletree got a gift half-sack, split with Dunbar, for falling on Cassel after the QB fell on a loose ball, but he wasn’t effective as a blitzer. The secondary had more impact in run defense than the LBs did. That’s partly a scheme that maybe should have held Ogletree back a little more, but it’s also some bad tackling and inability to get off blocks. Discouraging.

    * Secondary: The secondary had a couple of standouts in run defense and a sore thumb. T.J. McDonald was effective on run blitzes, stuffing AP for a big loss on the opening drive and stuffing a draw at the end of the drive to force a FG. Janoris Jenkins in run support was a rare pleasant surprise for the Rams. He made six tackles, one being a nice open-field stop on AP bouncing a run outside dangerously in the 3rd. Rookie E.J. Gaines was a big problem on all three of Patterson’s big runs, though, well-blocked out of all three plays when he was supposed to be the main corner providing support. Gaines was far from the only problem on Patterson runs, though, especially the TD, where McDonald got pancaked on the edge, Rodney McLeod blew a diving tackle and Jenkins got woefully turned inside out about 50 yards downfield. Gaines also bit on play-action to give up the 1st TD to Greg Jennings. A lot of passes completed in front of his coverage ten yards off the line, too, though he also nearly had a pick-six early. McDonald made an acrobatic play to break up a pass for Kyle Rudolph, and Jenkins blanketed Patterson on a rare Viking deep route in the 2nd. Take away the Patterson runs and the secondary, though not tested much, had a decent game.

    * Special teams: Like most every other unit, not a lot to like on special teams. Austin looked like a basket case returning punts, muffing two and running around like a chicken with his head cut off for a big loss on another. Greg Zuerlein did all the Rams’ scoring with 56- and 46-yard FGs, but missed a 50-yarder by about a foot in the 1st (what’s wrong with kicking the ball down the middle, anyway?). Special teams also did not distinguish themselves on the penalty front, with Chase Reynolds roughing the punter to keep a Viking TD drive alive and Daren Bates getting a personal foul for taunting on a kickoff. One of the few bright spots on the team was the Pro Bowl-quality work of Johnny Hekker. Only one of his booming punts was even returnable; Hekker did more to take a weapon away from the Vikings than any of his teammates.

    * Strategery: Hiring Brian Schottenheimer has to be right up there on the list of worst moves Jeff Fisher has made with the Rams. I’ve gone out of my way to praise Schotty for having the sense to stick with things that are working during a game. Twice in this game, when the Rams finally got Stacy or Cunningham rolling with three decent carries, Schotty then stopped running and the drives crashed and burned on failed passing plays. We were all assured Shaun Hill would throw deep well enough to keep defenses honest. Rams QBs threw one deep pass in the game. Remember last year when Schotty started the season thinking he was Josh McDaniels? Let’s have a real warm Rams Nation welcome back for Pat Shurmur!

    And drafting Tavon Austin for Schottenheimer has turned out to have made about as much sense as hiring a hooker for the Pope. Schotty doesn’t know what to do with Austin and never will. Seriously, inside handoffs? True, the only run play Schotty seems to know is to go up the middle, but what is his objection to getting the ball to Austin on the move? Does he watch other teams’ games? Like, say, Seattle with Percy Harvin opening night? OR THE TEAM RIGHT ACROSS THE FIELD FROM HIM? Run the friggin’ jet sweep, you goof. Run an end-around. Put him in motion like you did in preseason and he’s open before the snap because DBs already can’t keep up. This is not rocket science. Offensive coordinators all over the league turn fast players into dangerous offensive weapons. Not ours.

    The Rams lost the battle of the blitz decisively. The offense couldn’t handle Minnesota’s blitzing, not the first time Schotty’s failed at that, either, while Gregg Williams’ blitzing had little effect at all on Cassel, who usually just had to toss to the receiver Gaines was ten yards off of to relieve the pressure. Turning the jet sweep to Patterson into the riddle of the Sphinx, when it’s a play Minnesota showed in preseason that even rank amateurs knew to expect, makes me wonder if Williams and Schotty weren’t actually watching the Simpsons marathon last week instead of watching game tapes. Williams did call some successful run blitzes, and if their main objective was to contain AP, they got there. We’re expecting much more success than we saw from Williams this week, though.

    Jeff Fisher tried to rally the troops after halftime with a big, showy powwow on the sideline. He’s done it before. The players have still never responded to it. They lost the 2nd half worse than they lost the 1st. So yeah, I’m kind of over Jeff Fisher as a master motivator at this point. He is of course a lost cause as any kind of disciplinarian, as his team racked up another 13 stupid penalties for 121 yards. Not all were good calls, but in there were still false starts by veteran offensive linemen at a home game, offsides by veteran defensive linemen, and roughing the punter and taunting on special teams. Fisher has done nothing effective to fix this for two years, so here’s my proposed solution: somebody make HIM run laps for all the penalties his team commits. Maybe that’ll draw his attention.

    Meanwhile, the Rams did not start either of their first round picks, their 3rd and 4th round picks were inactive, and none of their last five draft picks made the final roster. So, we’ve got draft picks wasted and wasting away, we’ve got motivational speeches coming up flat, we’re timidly kicking the long figgie instead of going for it on 4th and less than a yard – who’s in charge here? Steve Spagnuolo? Scott Linehan? Jeff Fisher, you do not want to be drawing those comparisons in your third season. But here we are.

    * Upon further review: Ed Hochuli didn’t work a Rams game last season, and as it turns out this week, not much reason to miss him. Minnesota got a FG out of Quinn getting a roughing-the-passer call for touching Cassel on his shoulder pad. Chris Long got an offside though TV showed Kyle Rudolph flinching first. They tried to call Bates for interfering with the returner when he leveled Marcus Sherels in the 2nd, then correctly picked up the flag, but ignored the whole time that Bates had been blocked in the back. Jenkins was blocked in the back blatantly on the long completion to Rhett Ellison that set up Rudolph’s TD, but was somehow called for holding himself. Huh? I also don’t understand all the OPI calls the Rams drew, when it looked like the same thing they did all preseason. A bad mix of ticky-tack calls and ignored calls much worse than other plays they did flag didn’t help matters. Grade: D+

    * Cheers: A crowd in the mid-50,000s brought the noise early, and earned credit for 2-3 false starts and a Vikings panic timeout. The Fox commentators not only gave us credit for that, we got credit for both of Minnesota’s wild shotgun snaps by making it impossible for Cassel to communicate with his center. The highlight of the day was the wacky end zone race between the giant-headed Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk and Isaac Bruce mascots, won by Isaac. Then the interview babe talked with the real Isaac Bruce while the fake Isaac Bruce looked in over his shoulder. The crowd turned hard on the home team, booing it off the field at halftime, and deservedly so, but still deserves credit for sticking around as long as it did. The place didn’t really start emptying out till it got to 27-3. Of course, I thought we also deserved a lot better than the Rams’ worst opening day effort since the Scott Linehan era in 2008, but what do I know.

    * Who’s next?: If but briefly, the Rams have turned the tide in their rivalry with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, winning late-season affairs away, where they’ll be next week, and home the past two seasons. Robert Quinn made himself Mike Glennon’s worst nightmare in the Rams’ 23-13 victory here last season, landing three sacks of the rookie QB on his way to setting the (nod to Deacon Jones) St. Louis-era sack record. For the Rams to continue their success against Tampa, though, they’re going to have to beat Tampa’s new head coach, Lovie Smith, for the first time. They’re 0-4 lifetime against the former Rams DC.

    Besides the Lovie challenge, Tampa’s offense could be a much tougher nut for the Rams to crack in 2014. Glennon has been supplanted by Josh McCown, who proved much harder to sack when he visited St. Louis last season with the Bears. The operating theory on defending McCown hinges on his habit of holding the ball too long behind an average-at-best, no-name offensive line. Yet, McCown didn’t do too poorly under similar conditions here last year, squirming out of trouble at least a dozen times to make plays downfield to his big receivers. We could be in for a replay next week, with McCown throwing to Vincent Jackson and rookie Mike Evans. One of E.J. Gaines’ pre-draft selling points was the game against Texas A&M where he shut down Evans; well, here you go. The Buc o-line did not play very well in the preseason action I scouted. Doug Martin’s a hard-working, physical RB with outside speed; I’d hate to see how he looks if they ever block for him. There’s still some impatience to his game, but a lot of his bounces to the outside are also because he didn’t have anywhere to go inside. Right tackle Demar Dotson looks like a liability in pass pro, they demoted their right guard during camp, and their left side, especially LG, got little to no push in the running game. That last problem, though, should be well fixed by their trade for Logan Mankins, who gives them much more freedom to double-team, especially if he’s 1-on-1 with Kendall Langford, who’s got to hold his own in that matchup to prevent McCown from stepping up in the pocket all day. The toughest thing about the Tampa offense for the Rams will be their pace. They’re patient to a fault; McCown hardly ever looks to stretch the field. But Tampa has been running most of their offense in no-huddle. If you thought the Rams looked like gassed middle-aged basketball players in their Saturday morning rec league at the “Y” against Green Bay in August, throw in Florida’s September heat and humidity and enjoy the lactic acid. Defensive conditioning could be as big a deal in this game as defensive scheme.

    You have to be strong up the middle to succeed in just about any sport; Tampa’s defense really seems to take that to heart: Gerald McCoy, Clinton McDonald, Lavonte David, Mason Foster, Dashon Goldson and Mark Barron make up a solid defensive core. McCoy is the straw that stirs the drink up front; the Rams will have to double-team him most downs. He’s their quickest lineman, Aaron Donald-quick, at that, and has impressive power. Against Buffalo he was blocking-sledding guys back into the backfield before the Bills could even get their play going. The Rams have to get McCoy blocked. Yes, that’s like telling Tokyo Civil Defense, “You have to stop that giant dinosaur over there.” Doesn’t mean it doesn’t need to be done. McCoy’s ability to dominate means somebody’s going to have to step up and be able to handle the deceptively-quick and relentless McDonald 1-on-1. The excellent closing speed of the Buc d-line dictates that the Ram o-line do a much better job of finishing their blocks. The ends have some success with stunts but there’s not a lot of edge speed to fear. The speed to fear is at ILB with David and Foster, extremely athletic players who are all over the place, and they’re terrific pass defenders. They get really good drops, read the QB well and have good ball skills. The Rams are going to have to be able to establish the run early and make play-action credible, or they’re not going to have a solution for all that middle speed, and we’ll be treated to another week of slogging offense.

    The good news: Tampa managed to lose to Carolina minus Cam Newton, so the Rams aren’t alone in their rapidly-sinking boat of a season. Both teams are going to have to do their best to forget this week ever happened and get back at it like it’s the start of the new season. Good luck to us in Rams Nation trying to do the same.

    — Mike
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    After stellar rookie season, Stacy leads a balanced backfield

    • By Joe Lyons

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/after-stellar-rookie-season-stacy-leads-a-balanced-backfield/article_2a279c0f-64ac-54ab-990d-b5c57add6aff.html

    Rams running back Zac Stacy doesn’t mind a little friendly competition. In fact, he encourages it.

    “Football is a business built on competition,’’ Stacy said following a recent practice at Rams Park. “You’re constantly working to be better than the guy lined up across from you. It’s about being consistent and productive and about making the most of your opportunities.

    “The competition in training camp has been the best I’ve seen since I started playing football. We have some great backs here, and we’re all working and pushing each other to get better. Every day, we’re challenging one another. And in the long run that’s something that will help this football team.’’

    Although running backs coach Ben Sirmans said that final depth chart is still to be determined, he said that he wouldn’t be surprised if Stacy took the first snaps when the Rams open the season Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings at the Edward Jones Dome.

    Then again, Stacy has earned it.

    A fifth-round draft choice from Vanderbilt, the 5-foot-9, 224-pound Stacy patiently waited for his chance a year ago as the team opened the season with Daryl Richardson starting as part of a spread attack. But the spread was scrapped after a humbling 35-11 Thursday loss to visiting San Francisco, and when the team returned to action 10 days later, Stacy was in the backfield.

    “It was definitely frustrating from the standpoint of knowing you can play at this level and wanting to prove it,’’ he recalled. “But you wait your turn and you keep working to get better. When the opportunity came, I took advantage of it.’’

    Sirmans added: “Zac was a little nicked up in camp and we had some other guys doing well. But when Daryl hurt his toe, we decided it was time to give Zac a shot, to let him rock and roll.’’

    Stacy, who had just one 4-yard carry through the first four games of the season, became the workhorse in the Rams’ ground game, finishing with 250 carries for 973 yards while catching 26 passes for 141 yards. He also had a team-leading eight touchdowns.

    When asked about falling short of 1,000 yards, Stacy quickly dismisses it.

    “Honestly, I’ve never been a guy who gets too caught up in numbers. The only number I care about is wins and losses,’’ the 23-year-old said. “I’m a big preparation guy; I take pride in Wednesday through Saturday, preparing and doing everything I need to do physically and mentally. That way, when Sunday rolls around, I can play fast and play smart. If I can do that, everything else will take care of itself.’’

    Stacy’s production in the preseason was unspectacular — he ran 15 times for 39 yards and had a 10-yard pass reception — but it is not something he is worried about. He knows, and the Rams know, what he can do.

    So instead of overworking Stacy, the Rams spread the preseason carries, giving plenty of work to third-round draft pick Tre Mason (43 carries, 124 yards), rookie free agent Trey Watts (25 carries, 106 yards, TD), second-year back Benny Cunningham (15 carries, 80 yards) and core special teams player Chase Reynolds (10 carries, 65 yards), who picked up 38 of those yards on a fake punt.

    Consider, too, that the Rams’ starting offensive line was together for just a handful of preseason plays.

    “We have guys who can complement Zac. And push him,” said Sirmans, who is in his third season with the club. “It’s as talented and competitive a bunch as I’ve coached, and each guy seems to bring a little something different to the table. So depending on the situation, any one of these guys could be called on.

    “In this business, the bottom line is production. I don’t care if you’re getting 25 carries or five; when you get your chance, you have to make the most of it.’’

    Cunningham, an undrafted free agent from Middle Tennessee, joined the Rams after seeing his college career cut short by a knee injury. Back at 100 percent, he is ready to take that next step.

    “I just feel so much more comfortable now,’’ he said. “Last year, with the injury and all, I was stressing every day. But having a full year with the playbook, I’m a lot more confident on the field. And I don’t think I’ve ever felt better physically.

    “If you’re not going to be the No. 1, you find some other way to get on the field — for me, it’s special teams. You keep working hard and you stay ready because you never know when your chance will come.’’

    And that’s the attitude that “veterans’’ Stacy and Cunningham have tried to instill in rookies Mason and Watts.

    Mason, a Heisman Trophy candidate last year, showcased his skill and durability as a junior last fall, rushing for 1,816 yards to break Bo Jackson’s single-season Auburn rushing record and scoring 25 touchdowns. He has struggled a bit in pass protection — something that is not uncommon for rookie backs — but will definitely add a different look to the Rams’ backfield.

    “At this point, I’m just trying to work hard every day to become a better football player,’’ he said. “Whatever the coaches ask me to do, I’m trying to do the very best I can.’’

    Watts is taking the same approach. At Tulsa, he did a little of everything, and he hopes to fill a similar role here.

    “I think I can provide some different things,” he said. “We’re working every day to help and push each other because you’re only as good as your weakest link.’’

    Reynolds’ focus will be on special teams; he didn’t have a single carry from scrimmage last season.

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    Keenum settling in to new surroundings

    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11326/keenum-settling-in-to-new-surroundings

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — Newly acquired St. Louis Rams quarterback Case Keenum was born in Brownwood, Texas. He played high school football at Wylie High in Abilene, Texas, and his college ball at the University of Houston. He spent his first two seasons in the NFL with the Houston Texans.

    In short, everything Keenum’s ever known and accomplished in football has been for Texas and in Texas. Until now.

    When the Rams claimed Keenum off waivers from the Texans on Monday afternoon, it meant Keenum was, for the first time, going to have to leave his comfortable Texas environs for something altogether new.

    “It hasn’t really set in yet,” Keenum said. “I’m just trying to stay at it. I’ve got the grind going and just continue to work. But I’m excited to be in a new place, be out of Texas, be out of my comfort zone and grow a little bit.”

    If all goes according to the Rams’ plan, Keenum will have plenty of time to go through that growing process. When starting quarterback Sam Bradford was lost for the season to a second torn ACL in as many seasons, the Rams insisted they’d be patient before adding some depth behind new starter Shaun Hill.

    The Rams followed through on that plan, waiting for Keenum to be released and then claiming him off waivers with no expense other than the corresponding roster move. In adding Keenum, the Rams picked up a young quarterback with eight games of NFL starting experience.

    It’s that experience that made Keenum appealing to the Rams.

    “Because of injury, Case got a lot of experience last year, started eight games,” coach Jeff Fisher said. “You look at the body of work — no, he didn’t win any of those games — but there was some really good things that you saw out of a young player. We spent a lot of time evaluating those games and felt like he’d be a good option to come in here and try to develop as a three or a two. We just wanted him in the mix.”

    For now, there’s no need to rush to get Keenum up to speed. Even if he wanted to, it would be awfully difficult for Keenum (or any quarterback, really) to attempt to come in and be ready to play. The Rams are committed to Hill as the starter and have Austin Davis penciled in as No. 2. Things should remain that way for the foreseeable future while Keenum works to learn coordinator Brian Schottenheimer’s offense.

    Where Keenum brings game experience that Davis doesn’t have, Davis possesses knowledge of the offensive system that Keenum currently lacks.

    Keenum said he hit the ground running upon arrival in St. Louis and is spending most of his waking hours attempting to narrow that learning curve.

    “Any system in this league is tough,” Keenum said. “This game is obviously pretty tough. I’m excited to learn some new stuff. It’s just kind of trying to be able to translate what I know and how I’ve run things and get terminology. Obviously that’s like speaking another language, so I’m just trying to learn another language as fast as I can.”

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    Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 2h
    Rams make practice squad move; Add OT Mike Remmers, release OT Sean Hooey.

    Interesting–Remmers was with the Vikes.

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    Vikings claim Mike Remmers off waivers

    Curtis Crabtree

    November 25, 2013

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/25/vikings-claim-mike-remmers-off-waivers/

    With the release of cornerback A.J. Jefferson on Monday due to an arrest regarding a domestic violence incident, the Minnesota Vikings had an open roster spot to fill.

    The Vikings filled the spot by claiming offensive lineman Mike Remmers off waivers from the San Diego Chargers.

    Remmers was released by the Chargers on Saturday to make room for the addition of practice squad tackle Kenny Wiggins.

    Remmers has played for the Denver Broncos, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Chargers after being undrafted out of Oregon State in 2012. He was signed off the Buccaneers practice squad to the Chargers active roster in October and appeared in just one game against the Jacksonville Jaguars.

    Remmers replaced King Dunlap at left tackle in the game briefly before suffering a high-ankle sprain and being carted off.

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    Mike Remmers
    School: Oregon State
    Position: T
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 295
    40: 5.3

    http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2012/T/Mike-Remmers

    Bio: Four-year starter who lined up at both left and right tackle.

    Positive: Underrated tackle prospect with size and growth potential. Effectively bends his knees, blocks with a wide base and immediately gets his hands into defenders. Fights hard throughout the action, keeps his feet moving and strong at the point. Makes good use of blocking angles and body positioning. Patient in pass protection, stays square and anchors at the point of attack.

    Negative: Lacks lateral blocking range and footwork in space. Does not get much movement run blocking. Looks like a marginal athlete blocking in motion.

    Analysis: Remmers was productive and durable on the college level yet lacks the footwork to play on the left side and overall strength to be a right tackle. He offers some upside and should get consideration on a practice squad as a developmental right tackle.

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    Strauss: Rams critics stand tall as Robinson takes a seat
    • Joe Strauss

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/joe-strauss/strauss-rams-critics-stand-tall-as-robinson-takes-a-seat/article_1a8d5313-367f-522b-ab62-8141804ec65b.html

    Of the 256 players selected in May’s NFL draft, all but Jadeveon Clowney came off the board after the Rams grabbed Auburn tackle Greg Robinson. The Rams, who last experienced a winning season before golfer Phil Mickelson won a major, since have shifted Robinson to guard, where he won’t start Sunday’s season opener against the Minnesota Vikings.

    This suggests any number of things:

    • The Rams have quietly amassed untold wealth on the offensive line.

    • Robinson’s pass-blocking skills remain rudimentary, inviting the dreaded description of “project.”

    Media’s short-attention-span theater has moved beyond Michael Sam’s shower habits and Sam Bradford’s left knee to Robinson’s failure to provide instant gratification, deeming it an indictment of a front-office gang that can’t shoot straight.

    Four months ago, analysts fell over one another praising the Rams’ well-conceived draft. One national critic extolled general manager Les Snead for “killing it.”

    Now, two days before playing their first game that counts, has time already arrived to kill the Rams?

    Has a franchise long thirsting for success decided to spend the last drops in its canteen on washing its hands?

    Sure, it looks bad. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it is bad.

    Critics already have started comparing Robinson to Jason Smith, the Baylor tackle whom the previous Rams regime drafted second overall in 2009. Smith actually did start the opener his rookie season, then went on to become the preferred definition for draft “bust.”

    Smith endured concussions but before that was suspected of marginal desire and trying to leave the Cardinals’ clubhouse clutching Albert Pujols’ game cap.

    Robinson only stands accused of coming from a run-first college program with a narrow playbook. He remains a massive man rated a run-blocking road-grader.

    Don’t misconstrue this as an apology for a franchise on the clock in several ways. Fan skepticism is warranted after years of bait-and-switch surprises. Bradford’s return from last year’s knee surgery became the hook for heightened expectations. Then, when the knee again buckled in the Rams’ third exhibition tilt, the sell shifted to Shaun Hill representing only a minor markdown within a run-first offense. Hill’s first pass Sunday will be his 17th in the last four seasons.

    The issue regarding Robinson is that the Rams love to draft on potential while their market desires immediate gratification.

    “He’s going to be an outstanding player,” coach Jeff Fisher said Wednesday afternoon. “Our focus right now is putting the guys on the field that we think give us the best chance to win right now.”

    The Rams last year traded up for Tavon Austin then struggled to incorporate the smallish, elusive receiver into the offense.

    This occurred after taking Brian Quick with a second-round selection in 2011. Quick’s rep has been one of a practice All-Pro who goes missing on Sundays. His third season is supposed to be different. The Rams have realized quick returns from defensive draftees but continue to urge patience with receivers Austin, Stedman Bailey, Quick and Chris Givens — all taken within the first 96 overall picks.

    The Rams drafted Robinson because they preferred his ceiling over the short-term certainty of Texas A&M left tackle Jake Matthews, the No. 7 pick who starts Sunday for the Atlanta Falcons.

    Of course, the Rams declined to go sexy by taking top-rated receiver Sammy Watkins or quarterback Johnny Manziel.

    Robinson gets the expectation questions a lot. He answers politely, patiently. He acknowledges the “process” that has him at guard, where reads must be made more quickly than at tackle. A talent who established his reputation steam-rolling college opponents now learns a thicker playbook at a fresh position.

    “The game’s much faster here. It’s the NFL. You expect that. But you still have to make adjustments,” Robinson says.

    Offensive line coach Paul Boudreau refers to what Robinson sees now as “a blur.” Defenders are distinguished by uniform rather than stunts and twists. Boudreau rates Robinson’s talent as a given. Making accurate reads is the tougher challenge but one that will be mastered in time.

    “He’s exactly the player we thought we were getting,” Boudreau said.

    More nuanced issues exist. The left guard lines up next to Jake Long, who is coming off knee surgery. Rodger Saffold fits there for now. Veteran Davin Joseph signed to play right guard. Former waiver claim Joe Barksdale started 13 games at right tackle last season. At some point Robinson will move to that side.

    Last season, the Rams started eight players from tackle to tackle. Only left guard Chris Williams appeared in all 16 games. Harvey Dahl started the first eight games at right guard before ruled inactive for seven of the last eight. Center Scott Wells started the first 12 games but finished the season on injured reserve. Long blew out his knee in the penultimate game. Saffold made two starts at right tackle, got hurt, returned against Indianapolis at right guard, moved back to right tackle at Arizona then finished the season replacing Long at left tackle. Shelley Smith made two starts seven games apart at right guard.

    Safe to say, continuity wasn’t last season’s strong suit.

    Needing 43 rushing yards to reach 1,000 for the season, rookie Zac Stacy managed 16 yards in 15 attempts behind an improvised line in Week 17 in Seattle.

    That last year’s team won seven games — four following Bradford’s injury — remains a marvel. Boudreau has no desire that his fifth season as Rams offensive line coach go as his fourth — or his third.

    Two years ago, right tackle Barry Richardson emerged as the lone Rams offensive lineman to start every game at the same spot. It was the sixth-round draft pick’s only season with the club.

    Among 2012’s most enduring memories was Williams unexpectedly being pressed into service inside London’s Wembley Stadium six days after being picked up from the Chicago Bears. Glancing to his right, Dahl asked, “Who the hell are you?” The Rams employed seven line combinations during the 7-8-1 season.

    An offensive line’s high mortality rate almost guarantees Robinson will appear sooner or later. All parties say he could see time Sunday. But force-feeding Robinson into the starting lineup to immediately validate a premium draft pick isn’t part of the plan.

    Fisher didn’t seem to care much to talk about Robinson not starting when it rained on Wednesday’s post-practice parade.

    One moment Fisher pointed out to a media herd that All-Pro tackle Orlando Pace did not start Week One his rookie season after the Rams made him the first overall pick of the 1997 draft. Moments later, standing about 20 yards away, Boudreau made precisely the same point to a breakaway scribe. Overlooked was the fact Pace held out for three weeks during his rookie camp.

    The game is faster at this level, much faster. Still, there’s ample time to pass judgment on Robinson and the process that brought him here.

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    Vikings vs. Rams preview
    By Nick Wagoner and Ben Goessling

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11256/double-coverage-vikings-at-rams

    The St. Louis Rams and Minnesota Vikings enter Sunday’s regular-season opener coming off disappointing 2013 seasons in which quarterback stability was not a strong suit for either side.

    In St. Louis, the Rams have already changed quarterbacks because of the season-ending knee injury to starter Sam Bradford. In Minnesota, many expect it to be a matter of time before the Vikings make the change to rookie Teddy Bridgewater for reasons beyond health.

    Both teams reside in tough divisions where wins will be difficult to come by. Both are in serious need of a Week 1 victory.

    ESPN Rams reporter Nick Wagoner and Vikings reporter Ben Goessling discuss this week’s matchup.

    Nick Wagoner: There might be some in the Rams’ locker room still having nightmares about Adrian Peterson’s last visit to the Edward Jones Dome. Clearly, it all starts with him, but how has he looked in camp and in what ways should we expect to see him used differently in the Vikings’ new offense?

    Ben Goessling: He’s going to be a much bigger part of the passing game than he’s been in recent years, or possibly any point in his career. We didn’t see Peterson in a preseason game, but the Vikings have been happy with his progress during training camp, saying he looks like a natural pass-catcher and has shown a good understanding of what will be asked of him. If he’s going to be on the field in passing situations, of course, he’ll be asked to be a bigger factor in pass protection, which hasn’t been one of his strong suits. But the Vikings are excited about the chance to get him the ball in space more often and match him up on defensive backs who might have a harder time bringing him down than linemen and linebackers. They are also hoping the change in strategy leads to fewer hits on Peterson and will help prolong his productivity past the age of 29.

    Speaking of players who might be causing nightmares for opponents, what kind of a challenge is Matt Kalil in for with Robert Quinn? He handled him well the last time they met, but how has Quinn progressed in the past two years, and how has he looked under Gregg Williams?

    Wagoner: Kalil is in for one of the most difficult challenges he’ll face in this league. Quinn had 19 sacks and seven forced fumbles last year, but there are those at Rams Park who believe he’s only scratched the surface of his potential. Quinn has freakish athleticism, which allows him to bend and contort his body in ways most tackles never see while maintaining his speed. He is able to win around the edge more often than not, but he’s also developed better hand usage and counters over the past couple of years under the guidance of defensive line coach Mike Waufle. With Williams leading the defense, the Rams want to be more aggressive in all areas, which means he can dial up blitzes, but Williams has never had a front four like this one. That should allow him to get plenty of heat on the quarterback without having to call those blitzes as much. It should make the Rams more multiple and allow Williams to do some unique things with Quinn and his line mates.

    While we’re on the topic of defense, I’ve long admired the work of new Vikings coach Mike Zimmer. What is he bringing to the table on that side of the ball, and what are some strengths and weaknesses the Rams’ offense will contend with on Sunday?

    Goessling: Zimmer is bringing a more aggressive defense to the Vikings than anything we’ve seen in the past seven years under the team’s old Cover 2 scheme. The Vikings won’t be blitzing on every down, by any means — Zimmer actually hasn’t been that heavy of a blitzer as a defensive coordinator — but when they do, they’ll bring pressure from a number of different spots. They’ll move rookie linebacker Anthony Barr around and occasionally send defensive backs after the quarterback. Zimmer’s scheme is predicated on every player knowing how his assignment affects the rest of the defense — he had a film room built with stadium seating so the entire unit could watch film together — and his defenses typically don’t make many mistakes. How all that will work for the Vikings in Year 1, though, I’m not sure. They’re still young in the secondary, where they’re counting on Xavier Rhodes taking the next step as a cover corner in his second year, and any time they’re facing multiple-receiver sets, their cornerback depth will be tested.

    Will Shaun Hill be able to stress the Vikings’ defense on Sunday, though? What do you expect from the veteran in his first shot at replacing Bradford?

    Wagoner: I think Hill is a solid, steady hand, but he’s obviously limited in what he can do when it comes to stressing a defense. The good news is the Rams won’t be asking him to do too much outside of his comfort zone. This was always going to be a run-first offense, even with Bradford, and nothing has changed in that regard. Jeff Fisher insists the Rams won’t scale back the offense for Hill, though that remains to be seen. Instead, they’ll ask him to manage the game, not turn the ball over and take advantage of opportunities in play-action. Hill doesn’t have the strongest arm, so it will be interesting to see if he can push the ball down the field when the Rams do ask him to throw. And the last time Hill played, he had Calvin Johnson to go up and get it. He doesn’t have anything remotely close to Johnson here.

    Neither of these teams is exactly working with Peyton Manning under center. Matt Cassel is getting the call for the Vikings. What does he bring to the table, and do you believe going with him over Bridgewater is the right move? How long before Bridgewater takes over?

    Goessling: I think it was the right move, for now. There’s a lot of confidence in Cassel from the Vikings’ offensive starters, many of whom are veterans who want to win now, and having Cassel allows the Vikings to be patient with Bridgewater. Zimmer talked about that Wednesday morning, saying the Vikings have effectively had Cassel installed as their starter since the start of training camp, and that they won’t change their minds after the first interception. I do think we’ll see Bridgewater at some point this season, but that’s based on a belief the Vikings won’t be in the thick of the playoff race at the end of the year. If they are, it probably would be because Cassel helped get them there. In any case, I think he’ll have the job as long as he’s effective. There’s no need to rush Bridgewater.

    The Vikings and Rams both took multidimensional receivers in the 2013 draft in Tavon Austin and Cordarrelle Patterson. The Vikings have big plans for Patterson in Year 2, with Norv Turner taking over as the offensive coordinator. How do the Rams plan to use Austin, and will his role on special teams decrease at all if he’s a bigger part of the offense?

    Wagoner: Well, I think it’s safe to say Austin doesn’t project to produce as much as Patterson entering their second seasons, and that’s enough to anger some Rams fans who felt the team gave up a lot to get Austin when it could have stayed where it was and drafted Patterson. But Austin still figures to play a prominent role in the offense. The Rams moved him around a lot during the preseason and training camp, and it wouldn’t be a surprise to see him lining up outside, in the slot and even in the backfield. He did all of those things last year, but the Rams could stand to mix up those looks even further this year. He’s going to play plenty and will continue to be the team’s primary punt returner, though it appears he’s ceded the kick return job for now. The Rams and Austin showed some flashes of his potential late in the year before his season ended early because of an ankle injury. They’re hoping they can build on that this year, though it remains to be seen that they can.

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    Vikings at Rams: Stats of the Week

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    Number of passes Rams quarterback Shaun Hill threw in four seasons with the Vikings to start his career as he makes his first start as a Ram against Minnesota on Sunday.

    170

    The number of net yards Adrian Peterson needs to tie Cris Carter for the most in team history. Peterson begins his eighth season with 12,240 yards; Carter needed 12 seasons in Minnesota to reach that total.

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    Rams notebook: Fisher confirms that Saffold will start over Robinson
    • By Joe Lyons

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-notebook-fisher-confirms-that-saffold-will-start-over-robinson/article_c2f66cac-259e-5cc8-83d9-eeaa24b612f7.html

    Following practice Wednesday at Rams Park, coach Jeff Fisher confirmed what many had suspected: that Rodger Saffold will start ahead of Greg Robinson, the No. 2 overall pick in May’s draft, when the Rams take on the Minnesota Vikings to open the season at noon Sunday at the Edward Jones Dome.

    “We made the decision for the opener that we’re better off going with experience,’’ Fisher said. “Doesn’t necessarily mean (Robinson) won’t play in the game, but we’re going to go with guys who have a lot of snaps under their belts.’’

    That means a veteran line of Jake Long at left tackle, Saffold at left guard, Scott Wells at center, Davin Joseph at right guard and Joe Barksdale at right tackle on Sunday.

    “I feel good about the guys we’re going to play with,’’ Fisher said. “They’ve been practicing together now for a couple of weeks and so I have no concern there. And I feel good about our depth as well.’’

    And Robinson?

    “He’s doing a good job,’’ the coach said. “He’s playing guard, he’s playing tackle. He’s doing both in practice, he’s done it all through preseason and he’s gotten better each week.’’

    When asked if learning two positions has hurt the 21-year-old Robinson, Fisher answered emphatically.

    “Nothing hurts him at all. It does not hurt him at all,’’ Fisher said. “I was told that Orlando Pace, the first player taken in the draft, didn’t play until Week 5. There’s no issue here, (Robinson) is going to be an outstanding player.

    “Our focus right now is to put the guys on the field we think can give us the best chance to win right now.’’

    Pace, by the way, signed as a rookie with the Rams in 1997 after a three-week contract holdout.

    The 6-foot-5 332-pound Robinson, who played in college at Auburn, started three of the Rams’ four preseason games.

    KEENUM SETTLES IN

    The newest Ram, quarterback Case Keenum, completed his second practice with the team Wednesday.

    “It’s been kind of a whirlwind couple of days,’’ said Keenum, 26, who was claimed off waivers from the Houston Texans on Monday. “I’m excited to be here, to start learning the system and do my best to contribute to the team.

    “Any system in this league is tough … but I’m excited to learn some new stuff. It’s like speaking another language and I’m trying to learn it as fast as I can.’’

    A Texas native who enjoyed a record-setting career at the University of Houston, Keenum signed with the Texans as an undrafted free agent and spent the 2012 season on Houston’s practice squad. Last year, he made eight starts, making his debut the week after the Rams blasted the Texans 38-13 in Houston. He ended up completing 54.2 percent of his passes for 1,760 yards with nine touchdowns and six interceptions.

    He was waived over the weekend after Houston picked up Ryan Mallett in a trade with New England.

    “It hasn’t really set in yet, but I’m just trying to stay at it, got the grind going,’’ he said. “I’m excited to be in a new place, to be outside of Texas, to get out of my comfort zone and to grow a little bit.’’

    Listed at 6-foot-1 and 205 pounds, Keenum gets by on his smarts, leadership and quick release.

    “Because of injury, Case got a lot of experience last year, started eight games,’’ Fisher said. “No, he didn’t win any of those games, but there were some really good things you saw out of a young player. We spent a lot of time evaluating those games and felt like he’d be a good option to come in and try to develop as a No. 3 or No. 2. We just wanted to get him in the mix; you want to get as many good players as you can.’’

    SSM KICK CANCER

    The Rams specialists — punter Johnny Hekker, kicker Greg Zuerlein and long snapper Jake McQuaide — are teaming with SSM Health Care Foundations in a new fund-raising program to support the needs of cancer patients in the region.

    In addition, a new event to benefit SSM Kick Cancer — “RAM-OKE’’ — will be held Monday Sept. 22, at Four Seasons. Led by Hekker and linebacker Jo-Lonn Dunbar, the night will feature Rams players taking the microphone to belt out karaoke renditions of their favorite songs. Fans can support SSM Kick by making a pledge for every point kicked by the Rams in 2014 or buy tickets to RAM-OKE at SSMKickCancer.org.

    RAM-BLINGS

    The first injury report of the season included four players who were limited on Wednesday — T Jake Long (knee), DE William Hayes (chest), Jo-Lonn Dunbar (shoulder) and DE Eugene Sims (knee). Two other players, CB Trumaine Johnson (knee) and center Barrett Jones (back), did not participate and are still weeks away from playing. For the Vikings, LB Brandon Watts (knee), LB Michael Mauti (foot) and fullback Zach Line (ankle) did not participate and T Mike Harris (shoulder) was limited. CB Jabari Price (shoulder) and WR Rodney Smith (neck) were full participants.

    • Austin Pettis switched to No. 12 from No. 18 in Wednesday’s practice as a show of support for teammate Stedman Bailey, who is serving a four-game suspension for violating the NFL’s policy on performance-enhancing drugs.

    • The Rams placed TE Brad Smelley on the practice squad in place of S Matt Daniels. Smelley was cut on Saturday after posting four catches for 46 yards in the preseason.

    • Defensive lineman Ethan Westbrooks, the undrafted free agent from West Texas A&M who was among the team leaders with 12 tackles in the preseason, has switched to No. 93 from No. 62.

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    http://www.rams-news.com/austin-davis-now-next-in-line-at-qb-pd/%5D Austin Davis Now Next in Line at QB –PD
    At the start of training camp, it seemed like Austin Davis had a better chance of coaching football at Westminster Christian Academy again than making the Rams’ 53-man roster.

    http://www.rams-news.com/michael-sam-to-join-cowboys-practice-squad-pd/%5D Michael Sam to join Cowboys’ Practice Squad –PD
    Michael Sam’s NFL football career is heading to Big D.

    http://www.rams-news.com/mike-sando-on-if-robert-quinn-stands-to-earn-j-j-watt-level-money-radio-interview/%5D Mike Sando on if Robert Quinn Stands to Earn J.J. Watt-Level Money –Radio Interview

    http://www.rams-news.com/adam-schefter-michael-sam-to-take-physical-with-cowboys-video/%5D Adam Schefter: Michael Sam To Take Physical With Cowboys –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/jim-thomas-rams-update-sept-2-radio-interview/%5D Jim Thomas Rams’ Update: Sept. 2 –Radio Interview

    http://www.rams-news.com/are-the-vikings-and-rams-mirror-images-of-each-other-radio-interview/%5D Are the Vikings and Rams “Mirror Images of Each Other?” –Radio Interview

    http://www.rams-news.com/what-case-keenum-brings-to-the-rams-wagoner/%5D What Case Keenum Brings to the Rams –Wagoner
    The St. Louis Rams waited patiently to make an addition at quarterback after losing starter Sam Bradford for the season. On Monday, they made their move by claiming quarterback Case Keenum off waivers from the Houston Texans.

    http://www.rams-news.com/watt-gets-paid-robert-quinns-turn-coming-wagoner/%5D Watt gets paid, Robert Quinn’s turn coming –Wagoner
    They were selected three spots apart in the 2011 NFL draft. In the time since, Houston Texans defensive end J.J. Watt and St. Louis Rams defensive end Robert Quinn have developed into two of the league’s most dominant defensive players, regardless of position.

    http://www.rams-news.com/morning-ram-blings-telling-qb-stats/%5D Morning Ram-blings: Telling QB stats
    Good morning, all. Hope everyone enjoyed a nice extended weekend. Let’s start the day with something a little different.

    http://www.rams-news.com/2014-predictions-st-louis-rams/%5D 2014 Predictions: St. Louis Rams
    ESPN.com St. Louis Rams reporter Nick Wagoner makes his game-by-game picks for the 2014 season.

    http://www.rams-news.com/power-rankings-no-24-st-louis-rams-espn/%5D Power Rankings: No. 24 St. Louis Rams –ESPN
    It’s that time of year again where the ESPN Power Rankings become a weekly staple.

    http://www.rams-news.com/don-banks-si-coms-2014-nfl-preview-st-louis-rams-video/%5D Don Banks SI.com’s 2014 NFL preview: St. Louis Rams –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/notables-and-predictions-for-rams-in-2014-gray/%5D Notables and Predictions for Rams in 2014 –Gray
    Oftentimes, people focus on specific St. Louis Rams opponents in attempting to diagnose the most difficult portion of the schedule. And while there is certainly some merit in doing so, each and every year teams that are expected to flourish eventually fail and clubs expected to flounder take flight.

    http://www.rams-news.com/burwell-what-does-sams-future-hold-video/%5D Burwell: What Does Sam’s Future Hold? –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/wagoners-2014-predictions-st-louis-rams-video/%5D Wagoner’s 2014 Predictions: St. Louis Rams –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/why-nfc-west-is-best-in-the-nfl-video/%5D Why NFC West is Best in the NFL –Video

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    What Case Keenum brings to the Rams
    By Nick Wagoner and Tania Ganguli

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11204/what-case-keenum-brings-to-the-rams

    The St. Louis Rams waited patiently to make an addition at quarterback after losing starter Sam Bradford for the season. On Monday, they made their move by claiming quarterback Case Keenum off waivers from the Houston Texans.

    ESPN.com Rams reporter Nick Wagoner and Texans reporter Tania Ganguli discuss what the Rams are getting in Keenum and what Keenum’s role will be in St. Louis.

    Wagoner: Tania, I remember chatting with you before the Rams and Texans played last year and you mentioned the local push for hometown favorite Case Keenum to be the starter. Coincidentally, he took over that job after the Rams beat up on the Texans and went on to start eight more games. Now he’s a Ram after they claimed him on waivers Monday afternoon. You saw every one of Keenum’s starts. What are the Rams getting in their new backup quarterback?

    Ganguli: They are getting a quarterback who knows what he needs to do but struggles to do it.

    Keenum’s remarkable college career made him a lot of fans locally, but he spent all of his rookie year on the Texans’ practice squad before making the roster last season. The Texans’ quarterback situation was incredibly strange last season. By the time Keenum became the starter, the Texans’ season was in such a spiral then-coach Gary Kubiak wanted something to spark his team.

    That’s the positive with Keenum. He has moxie (Wade Phillips’ word, and I liked it). He was probably the best natural leader in the Texans’ quarterback room last season. He can lift a team emotionally. The problem is a lot of the rest of the responsibilities. In his early starts, it took opposing defensive coordinators until halftime to decipher Keenum. In his second start, he threw three touchdown passes to Andre Johnson to give the Texans an astonishing 21-3 lead over the Indianapolis Colts at halftime. They lost that game 27-24. By his later starts, opponents had enough film to shut him down from the start.

    His main issue is handling pressure. His first instinct is to run away from it. He went backward for sacks more than any other quarterback in the NFL last season. In college he was very successful improvising and using his legs, but he hasn’t adjusted to the idea that it doesn’t work the same way in the pros. Don’t get me wrong — every so often his improvisation led to a terrific play. He just expects it too often.

    He doesn’t have trouble reading defenses; he has trouble reacting and making the right decisions once he has. A few times last season, a dejected Keenum noted that he knew what he was supposed to do, he just didn’t think to do it in time. His internal clock also needs work and he holds on to the ball too long when he tries to make plays.

    Keenum’s fan base in Houston still exists, though it has begun to acknowledge that he’s struggled. The Rams’ situation is an interesting one for him, with starter Sam Bradford out with a torn ACL. What kind of situation do you see this being for him?

    NW: The Rams mean it when they say they are committed to Shaun Hill as the starter. I think it would take something pretty drastic in terms of his performance or an injury for that to change. That means Keenum is coming in to serve in a backup role behind Hill. The Rams are keeping Austin Davis on the roster as well, bringing the total quarterbacks on the 53 to three. Davis has been around for three years and knows the system, so there’s no reason to rush Keenum into trying to become the primary backup right away. After Keenum settles in, perhaps he pushes Davis for the No. 2 job behind Hill. But that’s unlikely to happen right away. The Rams don’t view Keenum as any sort of long-term replacement for Bradford, but they’d certainly welcome a young quarterback who could provide some depth beyond just this season.

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    http://www.rams-news.com/case-keenum-joins-rams-quarterback-carousel-pd/%5D Case Keenum Joins Rams’ Quarterback Carousel –PD
    In effect, the Rams gave quarterback Case Keenum a chance to play 10½ months ago in Houston when they knocked starter Matt Schaub out of the game because of an ankle injury.

    http://www.rams-news.com/burwell-fear-of-distraction-might-slow-sams-search-for-a-new-nfl-home/%5D Burwell: Fear of Distraction Might Slow Sam’s Search for a New NFL Home
    From the moment he embarked on his National Football League journey, the one thing Michael Sam desperately wanted to be was a football player. But today, just two days from the start of the NFL regular season, the former Mizzou star is without a job.

    http://www.rams-news.com/youth-remains-abundant-on-rams-roster-simmons/%5D Youth Remains Abundant on Rams Roster –Simmons
    As has been the case for the past couple of seasons, the Rams will enter 2014 with one of the youngest rosters in the NFL. But don’t let that moniker fool you — this team also has a wealth of experience to draw upon for the upcoming season.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-roster-breakdown-defense-wagoner/%5DRams Roster Breakdown: Defense –Wagoner
    The St. Louis Rams have their initial 53-man roster in place, and they are now in full preparation mode for Sunday’s season opener against the Minnesota Vikings.

    http://www.rams-news.com/keenum-a-solid-choice-for-patient-rams-wagoner/%5D Keenum a Solid Choice For Patient Rams –Wagoner
    It took all of about an hour for the rumors and speculation to run rampant after St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford’s season-ending knee injury became official on Aug. 24.

    http://www.rams-news.com/updated-rams-claim-qb-keenum-off-waivers-from-houston-pd/%5D Updated: Rams Claim QB Keenum Off Waivers from Houston –PD
    The Rams have claimed quarterback Case Keenum off waivers from the Houston Texans.

    http://www.rams-news.com/case-keenum-quickly-snatched-up-by-the-rams-proving-his-doubters-wrong-again/%5D Case Keenum Quickly Snatched up by the Rams, Proving his Doubters Wrong Again
    One day after getting released by the Houston Texans in favor of Bill Belichick reject Ryan Mallett, Case Keenum’s found a new NFL team. The quarterback-needy St. Louis Rams picked up the former University of Houston record breaker off waivers on Monday.

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-announce-practice-squad/%5D Rams Announce Practice Squad

    http://www.rams-news.com/rams-roster-breakdown-offense-wagoner/%5D Rams Roster Breakdown: Offense –Wagoner
    The St. Louis Rams have their initial 53-man roster in place and they are now in full preparation mode for Sunday’s season opener against the Minnesota Vikings.

    http://www.rams-news.com/a-look-at-the-rams-roster-makeup-wagoner/%5D A Look at the Rams’ Roster Makeup –Wagoner
    St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher was very open about the possibility of the 2014 roster taking on a different look than it has in his first two years in St. Louis.

    http://www.rams-news.com/morning-ram-blings-sam-awaits-next-move-wagoner/%5D Morning Ram-blings: Sam Awaits Next Move –Wagoner
    Former St. Louis Rams defensive end Michael Sam cleared waivers Sunday and is now free to sign with any team or its practice squad.

    http://www.rams-news.com/mel-kipers-2015-big-board-video/%5D Johnny Hekker One-on-One with Chris Long –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/mel-kipers-2015-big-board-video/%5D Mel Kiper’s 2015 Big Board –Video

    http://www.rams-news.com/kevin-demoff-rams-update-radio-interview/%5D Kevin Demoff Rams Update –Radio Interview

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    Keenum a solid choice for patient Rams
    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11190/keenum-a-solid-choice-for-patient-rams

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — It took all of about an hour for the rumors and speculation to run rampant after St. Louis Rams quarterback Sam Bradford’s season-ending knee injury became official on Aug. 24.

    Outside of Rams Park, names like Mark Sanchez, Kirk Cousins, Ryan Mallett, even Tim Tebow were tossed around as possible quarterback additions for the Rams. But coach Jeff Fisher was adamant from the beginning that his team wouldn’t jump into some short-sighted solution. He backed veteran Shaun Hill as the starter and preached patience in the search for more depth.

    “It makes no sense to jump and react right now and try to fill the hole, whatever it costs,” Fisher said then. “We’re going to take our time and evaluate this. There’s going to be some quarterbacks that are getting released and there may or may not be some quarterbacks that have trade value. We just don’t know. It’s way too soon.”

    Fisher made those comments a little more than a week ago but proved true to his word Monday afternoon when the Rams claimed quarterback Case Keenum off waivers from the Houston Texans.

    In Keenum, the Rams are getting a third-year player with some actual game experience, something current backup Austin Davis lacks. The Rams placed tight end Justice Cunningham on injured reserve with an ankle injury to make room for Keenum. Having Davis allows the Rams to have a backup who knows coordinator Brian Schottenheimer’s offense and should also allow Keenum to take his time getting acclimated in St. Louis.

    Keenum started eight games for the Texans in 2013, posting 1,760 yards, nine touchdowns and six interceptions while completing 54.2 percent of his passes. He actually ascended to the starting spot after the Rams soundly beat Houston 38-13 in week 6.

    Keenum shouldn’t be viewed as any sort of long-term answer for the Rams in Bradford’s absence. That will have to be addressed in the offseason but picking him up looks to be a solid if unspectacular move in the interim.

    If nothing else, the Rams did well to find a quarterback who has some game experience without having to give up anything in return. Amongst the many ideas for quarterbacks that some clamored for were fantasy football offers of draft picks up to and including a second round choice. But none of the players being discussed offered any sort of proven upgrade to Hill and would have cost the Rams valuable draft picks.

    Those are the same draft picks the Rams will eventually need to select their quarterback of the future and, if they aren’t positioned to get such a player, need to put in a package to move up to get said quarterback in the next NFL draft.

    With Keenum, the Rams did the prudent thing by finding a signal caller who has started a half season’s worth of NFL games but costs them nothing more than a simple roster move.

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    Rams roster breakdown: offense
    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/11175/rams-roster-breakdown-offense-2

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams have their initial 53-man roster in place and they are now in full preparation mode for Sunday’s season opener against the Minnesota Vikings.

    Coach Jeff Fisher made it clear the roster could still have some tweaks, but for now let’s take a look at how the roster looks. We will start with the offense and offer the defense a little later.

    Quarterback (2) Shaun Hill, Austin Davis

    Fisher has repeatedly said the Rams will be patient in their search for more help at this position, but he means it when he says he is committed to Hill as the starter. Davis has extensive knowledge of the offense and should stick around because of it, but there is still a need to find a veteran who has some playing experience to add more depth. Whether the Rams can find such a player remains to be seen, but don’t be surprised if it comes a little later when contracts aren’t guaranteed.

    Running back (5) Zac Stacy, Benny Cunningham, Tre Mason, Trey Watts, Chase Reynolds

    Once again, the Rams opted to go heavy at running back after Watts impressed enough during the preseason and training camp to win a roster spot. A legitimate argument could even be made that Watts outplayed Mason when given the opportunity. Stacy looks to remain the starter, but don’t be surprised if Cunningham gets his share of chances.

    Tight end (5) Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Cory Harkey, Justice Cunningham, Alex Bayer

    What looked to be a battle for a fourth roster spot between Bayer and Cunningham turned out to be an opportunity for the Rams to keep five. Cunningham is a talented blocker and Bayer showed some pass-catching prowess, making the choice between the two a difficult one. With the Rams down to five at receiver, they were able to keep both players. But that might not be a permanent setup. If the Rams can find help at spots like quarterback or linebacker, this is a spot where the corresponding move could come.

    Wide receiver (5) Kenny Britt, Brian Quick, Tavon Austin, Chris Givens, Austin Pettis

    Receiver Stedman Bailey is suspended the first four games for violation of the league’s policy on performance enhancing drugs. The Rams have an exemption for Bailey, but he will be on this roster when that suspension ends. When that time comes, the Rams will have to make a move to free a spot, but it would be a bit of a surprise if it came at the expense of one of the other wideouts. It was no surprise the Rams opted not to keep a sixth wideout in the interim.

    Offensive line (9) Jake Long, Rodger Saffold, Scott Wells, Davin Joseph, Joe Barksdale, Greg Robinson, Tim Barnes, Barrett Jones, Mike Person

    This group is a little lighter than last year, but it offers more versatility. The starting five have plenty of experience and potential, but amongst the four backups, only Barnes offers any real game experience and even that is limited to four starts at the end of last season. Robinson, Jones and Person offer the ability to play multiple spots, but Jones is likely still at least a few weeks from returning from back surgery.

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    Rams roster breakdown: Defense
    By Nick Wagoner

    [espn.go.com]

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — The St. Louis Rams have their initial 53-man roster in place, and they are now in full preparation mode for Sunday’s season opener against the Minnesota Vikings.

    Coach Jeff Fisher made it clear the roster could still have some tweaks, but for now let’s take a look at how the roster looks. Earlier, we started with the offense . Now, let’s take a look at the defense and special teams.

    Defensive line (9) Chris Long, Robert Quinn, William Hayes, Eugene Sims, Michael Brockers, Kendall Langford, Aaron Donald, Alex Carrington, Ethan Westbrooks

    The deepest collection of talent on the team and perhaps the best line in the league, this group has a little bit of everything. The Rams kept nine in 2013 and it was no surprise when they did so again this week.

    Linebacker (5) James Laurinaitis, Alec Ogletree, Jo-Lonn Dunbar, Ray-Ray Armstrong, Daren Bates

    This is the thinnest position on the defense and it would not surprise if the Rams looked to add more help, particularly if they can find a veteran with some experience. Because offenses around the league regularly play with three or four receivers, the Rams will be in sub packages quite a bit which means the need for help here isn’t urgent. But a single injury of any note would certainly change that.

    Cornerback (6) Janoris Jenkins, Trumaine Johnson, Lamarcus Joyner, Brandon McGee, E.J. Gaines, Marcus Roberson

    Johnson’s sprained MCL will cost him four to six weeks and forced the Rams’ hand to keep an additional body that likely came in the form of Roberson. McGee has an ankle injury which has cost him time in the preseason. Joyner projects to stay as the nickelback, with Jenkins starting in one spot on the outside. The interesting battle in the short term is who gets the nod to start opposite Jenkins. McGee has a little more experience but if he’s not fully healthy, Gaines could get the first chance.

    Safety (4) T.J. McDonald, Rodney McLeod, Maurice Alexander, Cody Davis

    Instead of the five the team has carried in the past, the Rams are going with these four for right now. Alexander and Davis will be key special teams contributors right away, but neither offers any meaningful playing experience in the league as depth behind the starters.

    Specialists (3) Johnny Hekker, Greg Zuerlein, Jake McQuaide

    This trio should be together for the long haul.

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    That’s IT? That’s all? You watch a whole game and all you got is, Joyner got picked on?

    I suppose we;ll just wait patiently for the rest……….

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    Rams starters sit out loss to Dolphins
    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-starters-sit-out-loss-to-dolphins/article_e013230b-388e-544a-a483-1958daa1b77f.html

    MIAMI GARDENS, Fla. • Michael Sam and Ethan Westbrooks slugged it out one last time for a spot on the 53-man roster.

    Backup quarterback Austin Davis put the finishing touches on an impressive preseason, completing 12 of 19 passes for 162 yards and a touchdown.

    And undrafted rookie Trey Watts got plenty of work in his late bid to claim employment at running back.

    As for the Rams regulars? They were in mothballs watching Thursday’s preseason finale wearing ball caps on the sideline during a 14-13 loss to the Miami Dolphins.

    If it were the regular season, seeing a 13-0 lead turn into a 14-13 defeat in the second half would be a bitter pill for the Rams to swallow. But it’s still August, and with this contest turned over to the subs from the outset, this was a battle for roster spots for a couple of dozen Rams.

    The headliner on that front obviously was Sam vs. Westbrooks — one last time. Sam was very active in the first half, and according to unofficial press box stats led the Rams with six tackles by game’s end. But Westbrooks wasn’t far behind with four tackles. One of those tackles came on his second sack of the preseason, and he added two quarterback hits.

    “I’m gonna have to look at the tape, but Ethan was making a lot of plays every time I looked,” Fisher said.

    As for Sam?

    “I really didn’t see anything good or bad out of Mike … but he played hard,” Fisher said.

    Fisher did say that Sam has shown enough in training camp and the preseason to show he belongs.

    “I think he can play in this league — yes,” Fisher said. “As can some other guys on this team that had good preseasons.”

    With Sam on the threshold of history as the first openly gay player to make an NFL team, a horde of reporters waited patiently in the visitors’ locker room at Sun Life Stadium afterwards, and then engulfed him when he was ready to meet the media.

    “That was a very good day to see that I could play the run,” Sam said. “I was very successful and made some plays and got some tackles.”

    Sam said he felt he has shown enough to make an NFL team, be it the Rams or someone else.

    “I’m very confident that I’ll be playing on an NFL roster this fall,” Sam said. “I know I can play in this league.”

    Before the game Sam tweeted that the game would be his final exam. How did he fare?

    “I did good,” he said. “I give myself a B-plus. I’ve very proud of myself, like I said, of how I fought the run.”

    Now he must wait until 5 p.m. (St. Louis time) on Saturday to see if he has made the Rams’ regular-season roster.

    “You know what, it’s not gonna be like the draft,” he said, laughing. “I’m very confident that I’m going to sleep well tonight.”

    Only eight picks remained in the entire draft when the Rams selected Sam late in the seventh round in May.

    But draft weekend was no picnic either for Westbrooks. The former NCAA Division II defensive player of the year at West Texas A&M went undrafted.

    “I feel like a did well,” Westbrooks said, speaking of Thursday’s game as well as the preseason as a whole. “Let the chips fall where they may. Everything’s in the books right now, so I’m definitely comfortable with what I did this preseason. I’m proud of what I’ve done. So I just wait for the next two days.”

    Once again, Westbrooks played both defensive end and tackle for the Rams, only this time in a three-man front.

    Fisher must trim 21 players from the roster to reach the regular-season limit of 53.

    “This is the hard part about the National Football League right now in the next couple of days,” Fisher said.

    Making those roster decisions is complicated by several factors beyond the realm of play on the field, including injuries that will keep cornerback Trumaine Johnson (knee) and center/guard Barrett Jones (back) sidelined for several more weeks.

    “Those are things that all fall into play with these decisions,” Fisher said.

    At running back, Watts was the busiest skill player on the field for the Rams, carrying 13 times for 51 yards, and catching one pass for 12 yards. He also played all four “core” units on special teams: punt return, kickoff return, punt coverage and kickoff coverage.

    “I haven’t had that many reps in a while,” Watts said. “But I enjoyed it, enjoyed just being out there playing football — the game you love.”

    After missing the first exhibition game with a hamstring injury, Watts felt he stated his case over the final three contests.

    “Whether they want to keep me or not, I just leave that up to them,” he said.

    After a scoreless and sluggish first quarter, the Rams got on the board first with a 49-yard field goal by Greg Zuerlein with 11 minutes 46 seconds to go in the first half. Minutes later, an interception by Mizzou product E.J. Gaines set up the Rams’ only touchdown of the game, an 11-yard pass from Davis to Austin Pettis.

    “It felt good to get my first pick,” Gaines said. “I should have kept the game ball but I was too hyped, so I dropped it.”

    On an active night for Zuerlein, he tried a 63-yard kick with 8 seconds left in the half, but barely missed — wide left. In third quarter, he connected on a 53-yard attempt to give the Rams a 13-0 advantage with 5:37 to play in the quarter.

    But the Dolphins scored a pair of touchdowns in the fourth quarter to claim the victory and leave the Rams at 1-3 for the 2014 preseason.

    “As far as the game’s concerned, there were some good things in there, (but) you get frustrated at some of the young mistakes,” Fisher said.

    The Rams didn’t commit any turnovers, but topped triple digits in penalty yards, with 102 on 14 infractions.

    “But all in all, our training room’s empty right now, so that’s good news,” Fisher said.

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    The Emotional Injury of Bradford’s Torn ACL
    From Stats Doctor

    http://www.101sports.com/2014/08/28/time-knee-jerk-response/

    For many, the second torn ACL for Sam Bradford will have a great impact on how they will look at the season in terms of wins and losses. Let me focus more on the tremendous sense of loss.

    Although I am in the business of trying to help people through difficult times, goodness knows I hear stories almost daily that leave me wondering how I can possibly be helpful. People describe incredibly difficult situations that leave me thinking, “There, but for the grace of God, go I.” After what we witnessed Saturday night and then heard about Sunday, I could only imagine what Bradford was going through. But, let’s not forget that this happens all too commonly in football. In the first two preseason games alone, Isaiah Pead and Mason Brodine went down with season-ending knee injuries as well.

    In the NFL, it has been said the initials also stand for “Not For Long.” The clock is always ticking on a player’s football life expectancy that, on average, is about two-and-a-half years. You don’t get those years back and, for that matter, there is no guarantee that you get back so much as one more day. These are really young people, almost kids, and that is easy to forget. Most professional athletes are done with their playing careers by the time they are 30 years old, and then they have to figure out what to do with the rest of their lives.

    I see plenty of patients who are dealing with the loss of a job or a career. But, most of them are at least twice as old as these athletes.

    Football is one of the sports where we, the spectators, don’t really see the faces behind the face mask and helmets while they compete. Sure, we see them on the sidelines, in interviews and on commercials sans helmets. We see what they are doing on the field of play, but we don’t see what they are feeling. It is easy to think of a player as being more robotic and mechanical than human, like they were figments of our video game imagination. Arguably, the best wide receiver in the game carries the nickname “Megatron.” One of the bright young quarterbacks in the league is referred to as “Superman.” Even one of the top career rushers was known as “The Bus.”

    Yet, in an instant, a player’s future both literally and figuratively can change and affect the rest of that player’s life. And that instant can impact the lives of so many, be they players and coaches, family or friends. Similarly, I am often struck by the preparation Olympic athletes endure over years to hopefully qualify and then participate in the Olympics that occur only every four years. Then you hear the stories of the last-second injury, the missed bus to go to the venue, the disqualification for a false start (no five-yard penalty there) or the athlete who is eliminated from competition in just seconds. It’s sad. It’s heartbreaking. It’s life.

    Football is, pure and simple, a collision sport. Every play involves collisions that are akin to a car wreck at, let’s say, 35 miles per hour. When you add up the 1,982 plays from scrimmage, the 152 punts, the 155 kickoffs and the 228 accepted penalties (OK, I had to throw in some statistical information and, yes, some of the penalties were tacked on the end of plays) from the 2013 season, you basically have an average of roughly 155 plays per game that lead to a multitude of car wrecks every play. Years ago, I worked at a few games (most notably the “Music City Miracle”) helping the sideline reporter. It was amazing to hear the sound of what seemed like a stampede of horses and to feel the earth trembling as a sweep was headed in my general direction. Just think: That happens every single play.

    Yes, injuries are a part of the game, and steps are being taken to try to lessen the number and severity of physical injuries. I, for one, hope that the emotional injuries are given equal attention. During the broadcasts of Rams football, I sit between two gentlemen who played the game and certainly endured physical injuries – and Steve and D’Marco seem to still love the game. It’s a tough sport.

    The psychiatrist in me really feels for any athlete whose dreams are threatened by the real sense of loss that comes with any injury. Hopefully, each injured player will pace himself in dealing with both the physical and emotional pain that is and will be there. The fan in me will be rooting for Sam Bradford and all of the injured to make a full recovery so that they can try once again to pass, run, catch and simply pursue their dreams.

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    In the news recap post there’s a link to an article by Bernie (link). I know many of you have problems with Bernie, but I think he often makes sense.

    In this case, I think he makes a lot of sense:

    Bernie: A 4-12 season by the Rams in 2014 could all but kill off the remaining fan interest. I’m probably guilty of overstating that; of course the diehards will continue to support the Rams. But of this I’m certain: Another bad season won’t grow fan interest in Kroenke’s business.

    I mean, I dunno from LA. Who knows what to think of a 30 year old stadium morass?

    What I do think we know is that the Rams’ place in StL is precarious. Let’s review: they move to StL and suck for years. Then they catch lightning in a bottle and win a title … after which they go back in the tank for record-setting years of futility.

    I don’t know that the Rams have ever established a firm fan base to the degree necessary to survive a long, long string of failure. I also suspect that the fan base in the town is not strong enough to hang onto the team if Kroenke goes looking for higher franchise value. I mean, they are valued lowest of all NFL franchises. And I don’t see how the stadium issue in StL gets resolved without firm and unwavering fan support.

    That’s why I have said before that this is a crucial year for the franchise. It’s Year 3, and that doesn’t just mean die hards like us being impatient. I really sense that the foundation on which the franchise is based in StL will seriously crumble if they are once again playing meaningless games in November, let alone December.

    I mean, think about it. With Bradford hurt again, what is the ticket demand going to be for home games from fans disillusioned by years of frustration? Who is going to care about the rest of the season if they go, say 3-6? Who is going to have any faith in later seasons when, suddenly, after having a franchise QB we look at long term uncertainty at that position? I foresee lots of opposition fans buying up unwanted seats for Ram games.

    This is Year 3 of a regime that promised a way out of the wilderness. But it’s also Year 25 or whatever the number is (I’m horrible at numbers) of Ram futility, and the buzz of the GSOT has long dwindled to nothing. The roots in the StL fan base just aren’t deep enough to survive yet another reset.

    I have believed all along that we needed a winning year THIS YEAR to stabilize the franchise. Now, there’s good reason to think that won’t happen. Good enough reason to drive StL fans further away, at any rate.

    I’m not offering despair here. The franchise MIGHT survive in the city. And I do see possibilities with this year’s team, though I am nowhere near as optimistic as Mac and others.

    But I’ll tell you what. They better win AT LEAST the 1st 2 home games. They have to prove to StL fans right away that there is reason to hope. They cannot afford to restart the season after 4 bad games as they did last year.

    This is the year. A great deal is riding on this team producing THIS YEAR. And the toughness of the division or the injured QB ain’t going to cut it as excuses.

    Another losing season may or may not mean that Fish is fired. But it is going to be a gawdawful blow to the franchise. I find it hard to see it surviving in StL.

    By virtue of the absurd ...

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    http://globalnews.ca/news/1124694/how-experimental-knee-surgery-got-kaya-turski-ready-for-the-olympics/

    How experimental knee surgery got Kaya Turski ready for the Olympics
    By Carmen Chai Global News

    (Note: I dunno how to embed flash videos, so please visit the link. The videos are very cool and add to the article – Mack)

    Watch the video above: Canadian Freestyle skier Kaya Turski’s comeback helped by experimental surgery. Crystal Goomansingh reports.

    TORONTO – It happened on her last day of training with the Canadian ski team in Mount Hood.

    Olympic athlete Kaya Turski was working on a switch left side rotation, a spin that isn’t a natural move for her. She came around the turn just a little short and felt a snap.

    She knew right away what it was – she’d ruptured her anterior cruciate ligament, a bundle of fibres crucial in stabilizing the knee, twice before.

    That was August 11. The Montreal native was just six months away from the Olympics.

    “A zillion things went through my mind when I fell and I felt my knee go. You know, obviously the Olympics was the first thing that came up,” Turski told Global News.

    “It’s something I have been training for for as long as the event has been included, basically my whole life​.”

    READ MORE: Canada’s athletes in Sochi: Meet skier Kaya Turski

    WATCH: Kaya Turski talks about being ready to compete in Sochi and the journey back from injury

    ​Fast forward to just a week before the Olympics: Turski captured her fifth Winter X Games gold medal in women’s ski slopestyle.

    But her road to recovery came with the help of a Canadian doctor and an experimental knee surgery combining a cadaver’s ligaments and synthetic ones.​

    “The challenge is, it’s not her first time. So the decision-making is quite a bit different than someone who’s already had the surgery,” Dr. Bob Litchfield said.

    He’s the medical director of the Fowler Kennedy Sport Medicine Clinic and a professor at the University of Western Ontario. It was his skilled hands that oversaw Turski’s surgery and recovery.

    In Turski’s case, Litchfield had to take into account the hardware that’s already in her knee, tunnels already drilled through bone from her previous injuries.

    WATCH: Kaya’s video diary from the day she discovered injury through surgery and recovery to her return to the slopes

    READ MORE: Despite injuries, Canada’s extreme athletes have high hopes for Sochi Olympics

    With a countdown to the Winter Games looming, Turski and Litchfield also didn’t have time on their side.

    Ultimately, Litchfield decided that he could put new soft tissue grafts in her knee, supplemented by a synthetic ligament. The grafts, which are tissue that replicates the function of the ACL, were used from donor cadavers.

    The anterior cruciate ligament joins the tibia through to the femur. It’s important in stabilizing – especially with a stop-and-go sport. It controls when you plant your foot, change directions, turn on a ski and land from a jump.

    Those are all stressors on the ACL. And sometimes, like in Turski’s case, the load is too great.

    Between the cadaver’s​ tissue and the synthetic ligament, Litchfield said he hopes the knee surgery will give Turski immediate stability and that over time, the graft will​ grow into her own bone.

    READ MORE: Canadian skier earns Olympic berth the hard way

    “We didn’t want to go through a short-term solution for Kaya. She’s still a very young person,” Litchfield said.

    “I sure hope it’s the last surgery she has on this knee. That’s the plan,​ anyway.”

    WATCH: Dr. Litchfield talks about Kaya’s revolutionary surgery

    ACL reconstructions and revisions of ACL reconstructions are pretty common, especially in young professional athletes. Revision rates can reach as high as 20 per cent for reconstruction, Litchfield said.

    “The difference with this surgery was, most of the time we’re using tissue alone and in Kaya’s case, we’ve incorporated tissue with synthetic together with the goal of trying to get her back to high-level performance earlier,” Litchfield said.

    “In that way, it is unusual and I guess experimental,​ if you will.”

    READ MORE: Canada’s Turski wins slopestyle gold at freestyle worlds, Howell wins silver

    It’s unclear how the synthetic will hold up, especially with Turski’s slope-style skiing.

    ​She’s constantly coming from height, accelerating, slowing down and landing jumps, akin to a gymnast doing aerials and multiple back flips.

    Litchfield said he’ll be watching Turski like a “nervous father.”

    “We learn a lot from elite athletes. We learn what is capable of the human body that we didn’t think was capable,” Litchfield said.

    For now, he wouldn’t recommend this kind of surgery to a larger group of patients. But that could change.

    “Surgery’s always evolving. We’re always looking at new techniques and better ways of doing things and better ways of decreasing failure rates and re-injury rates so it has to stand up to scientific scrutiny,” Litchfield said.

    WATCH: Back to school for cross country ski team

    In the meantime, Turski said she’s “feeling good.” She returned to skiing in early December.

    “The first run was obviously something I just needed to get it over with. It was nerve-wracking but as soon as I clicked in and started taking my first turns, everything just made sense and I feel really good,” Turski said.

    Some days come with some aches and soreness but she has a full-time physical therapist on hand to help work out the kinks.

    She’s also taking on maintenance workouts, cycling, and ice baths to keep her knee in check for the Olympics.

    “I’m just excited to stare at the course, look down at my feet, pinch myself, realize I’m actually there. Look at my coach, look at my teammates…and let it be go time,” Turski said.

    “I made it here against all odds,​ really.”

    carmen.chai@globalnews.ca

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    Morning Ram-blings: QB options?
    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/10942/morning-ram-blings-qb-options

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — There has been plenty of discussion about the St. Louis Rams adding help at the quarterback position after Sam Bradford’s season ending injury.

    As coach Jeff Fisher is quick to point out, those conversations have not taken place within the confines of Rams Park, at least not yet. While Fisher says the team wants to be patient to see if any potential backup options to starter Shaun Hill become available, our man Field Yates took the time Monday to offer some possibilities.

    Yates went into further detail in this Insider piece Insider, providing some names and the thought process that would go into each one.

    Clearly, there are many opinions on this topic from fans and media alike but the only one that really matters is Fisher’s. He’s serious about Hill being the starter so it’s probably best to move on from the idea the team will be looking for anything but a possible backup as cuts are made.

    I.C.Y.M.I.

    A roundup of Monday’s Rams stories appearing on ESPN.com. … We began a busy day with this week’s projected 53-man roster. … Next, we got to the Ram-blings by trying to offer something to cheer fans up. … From there, we took a closer look at the dark cloud that seems to be hovering over the Rams since 2002 or so. … Lost in the Bradford news was some actual good injury news on four key starters. … This week’s rookie review looked at snaps and production for the rookies against Cleveland. … We closed the day with Fisher’s strong words emphasizing Hill is the guy.

    Elsewhere:

    Grantland’s Bill Barnwell wonders where the Rams go from here.

    Ron Jaworski discusses what he thinks the Rams should do at quarterback.

    At stltoday.com, columnist Bryan Burwell writes that the Rams season isn’t doomed by Bradford’s loss.

    In this video, Bernie Miklasz agrees.

    Jeff Gordon writes that there’s no easy answers for the Rams at quarterback.

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    Burwell: Rams should avoid crazy QB ideas
    • By BRYAN BURWELL

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/bryan-burwell/burwell-rams-should-avoid-crazy-qb-ideas/article_83cf1fd7-f96c-5c62-b3a4-8b3d3ce1c0d6.html

    So now all the amateur football geniuses and junior GM’s of the world have had time to devote their full attention to concocting wonderful fantasy-football solutions to the Rams current quarterback upheaval, this much is quite clear:

    Everyone has a plan.

    Mark Sanchez. Kirk Cousins. Ryan Mallett. Michael Vick. Chase Daniel. Kyle Orton. Names and outlandish trade ideas are being thrown around with plenty of freedom, but with a short supply of wisdom. And that lack of wisdom pertains particularly to that special breed of crazies who still think Tim Tebow’s best career move would be to put down the SEC Network microphone and race to Rams Park immediately to rescue the season. (Well, they could always use an extra H-back.)

    Yet when all the nuttiness is done, when all the fantasy-football draft strategies are exhausted, when all the impractical dreams have run their course, we’re still left with the only logical course of action for this franchise to take.

    Leave the football team in the hands of the competent veteran who already knows how to run this offense. Whatever wild ideas you might have to bring in a guy from somewhere else, there’s no one out there who is more ready to run the Rams’ offense than Shaun Hill.

    The NFL is not a rec league hustle or a Saturday afternoon game of touch played on the street. You don’t walk in off the street, draw up a few plays in the dirt and tell the receiver to run a buttonhook at the Buick. You don’t bring in a guy who had no knowledge of offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer’s playbook, then expect him to run through this buzzsaw schedule in the toughest division in football without a glitch. A little recent history lesson should remind you of the disasters that happened when Carson Palmer and Josh Freeman were tossed in the mix in midseason.

    In case you haven’t heard, this NFL quarterbacking thing is not an easy thing.

    On Monday after practice at Rams Park, Jeff Fisher was particularly amused by all the speculation swirling around his football team and the countless trade rumors connected to the Rams. “I don’t really like to deal with hypotheticals, but had Shaun not (already) been here and we had an (injury) issue, we very well could have brought some guys in and see who’s got a better feel for us under center and then go and name a starter,” Fisher told a horde of reporters who surrounded him after a late-afternoon practice. “But we already have a starter. (Hill) was clearly our (No. 2). He steps in and goes and so anything that happens beyond that I can’t comment because we’ve really not done anything.”

    If you need an interpreter to read between the lines, here goes:

    There’s no one out there in the great big NFL universe right now who is available, could become available or who wants to make himself available who presents a better option than Shaun Hill. Teams aren’t going to just give away gifted backups (see: Kansas City and Chase Daniel) without asking for a king’s ransom. And the other teams that have guys they’re more than willing to dump are going to try to hijack valuable assets the Rams aren’t (or shouldn’t be) willing to part with (see: Tavon Austin).

    Why are so many people fascinated with Ryan Mallett when it’s so obvious that the New England Patriots seem to be ready to dump him for rookie Jimmy Garoppolo? Mallett has thrown seven passes in his four-year NFL career. Is this someone you want to mortgage draft picks for?

    Oh yes, and then there is Sanchez, whose greatest accomplishment in the last few seasons in the NFL is the “butt fumble.” He had some limited success with Schottenheimer with the Jets, but he has been a huge disappointment and proved to be a bust as a first-round draft pick. Again, why would the Rams waste any important assets (players or picks) trying to bring in someone who isn’t an improvement on what you already have?

    “There are a lot of players out there that are under contract and so you can’t discuss those things,” said Fisher. “But we’ve not had any discussions with anybody. Again, we’re going to be patient with this.”

    So here’s what the Rams will do. They’ll be patient. They already know that Hill is the guy who will run their offense and they have been satisfied with what they’ve seen out of Austin Davis as well. Remember shortly after the end of the 2012 season, Fisher practically gift-wrapped the No. 2 job to Davis for the 2013 season. However, Davis mysteriously did not rise to the opportunity and by the middle of training camp, Kellen Clemens had won the job. Now a year later, Davis is playing the way the organization envisioned he would, albeit a year late, and now he should have secured a job.

    The next step is to be patient and see what pops up on the waiver wire as we get down to the final cutdown date when rosters must be trimmed to 53 men. NFL personnel people call this churning the bottom of the roster, which means if they see a name that they believe is an upgrade on rookie Garrett Gilbert, they’ll take a look.

    But trust me on this: The next great Rams quarterback of the future is not going to be found on some frantic dumpster dive at the end of training camp.

    The future isn’t now, it’s next spring when the draft rolls around. That’s where you’ll find your QB of the future; everything else is the stuff of silly fantasy or irrational folly.

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    I think if you read their tea leaves, they are bringing someone in but on the cheap. Not a trade. As a #2 or #3. This is the time for the pro scouting dept. They are going to be looking for qbs who have been in camp and may be do-able. I don’t know if they trust Austin as a #2. In fact the way Fisher put it, it almost sounds like the Miami game is a try-out for him. I don’t think any team in the league can feel safe waiving a qb for the practice squad.

    Here’s what Fisher says about Austin. It’s what led to these thoughts.

    These are not put-downs but you don’t see any endorsement of him as the #2:

    Again, we’re going to be patient with this. There’s probably a couple quarterbacks let go at 75. There will probably be some let go at the 53 and like I said, there may be somebody, a club, we may have a trade partner out there. We don’t know. but we’re not initiating anything right now.”

    (On if QB Austin Davis is up to the challenge of being the No. 2 quarterback)
    “Yeah, you’re going to see him play. You’re going to get to see him play Thursday night. He played well in the game against a lot of their starters and so he made plays. He’s got a good feel, he’s got a good feel for what we’re doing. As I mentioned, (Offensive Coordinator Brian Schottenheimer’s) ‘Schotty’s’ very much at ease calling plays for him because he understands the offense.”

    (On Davis’ improvement this offseason)
    “Well it’s been hard on him and the others because of what they’re seeing from the defense in camp. That has helped him as you move into the games. (Defensive Coordinator) Gregg’s (Williams) going to throw everything at him and it’s very competitive and it’s difficult. But that makes it easier for him as you get into the regular season. The game slows down when you’re seeing so much happen at practice. It slows down and it’s slowing down for Austin.”

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    Jeff Fisher emphasizes faith in Shaun Hill
    By Nick Wagoner

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/10935/fisher-emphasizes-faith-in-shaun-hill

    EARTH CITY, Mo. — St. Louis Rams coach Jeff Fisher is not a fan of quarterback controversies and wears it as a badge of honor that he’s never had a situation where two players have really battled one-on-one for a starting job.

    That’s why Fisher, one day after confirming the season-ending knee injury for starter Sam Bradford, again emphasized that veteran Shaun Hill is his quarterback. Not just during Monday’s practice or in this week’s preseason game but for the season barring something happening to him.

    Hill
    “I think it’s important once you make a change for whatever reason, you stick with it,” Fisher said Monday. “And we’re sticking with this. There’s no doubt about that. That allows everybody to get comfortable and have confidence in who is under center as opposed to ‘Well, what are we going to do this week?’ There’s no doubt that he’s our guy and we’re going to move forward.”

    The Rams moved forward with Hill as the starting quarterback for the first time in Monday’s practice. Hill had some ups and downs, including throwing a few interceptions but Fisher was mostly pleased with his performance.

    In fact, Fisher offered a little of his trademark dry humor when asked how Hill practiced Monday.

    “He was fine,” Fisher said, a smile creeping across his face. “He actually completed some passes today. He was fine. And he actually knows where to go with the football, believe it or not. He’s a competitor and knows what he’s doing.”

    For his part, Hill said he’s only once been able to enter a season as a starting quarterback. That was in 2009 with San Francisco but he also made it clear that his mindset doesn’t change regardless of circumstance. He does, however, acknowledge that having such a strong vote of confidence from Fisher is helpful.

    “That feels good to have his confidence,” Hill said. “And the team’s confidence. They’ve all rallied around me. It’s been good.”

    As for all the rumors of the Rams pursuing outside options at quarterback, Fisher again hit the familiar refrain of saying that Hill is the starter and they will be patient to evaluate possibilities for backups behind him.

    “I don’t really like to deal in hypotheticals but had Shaun not been here and we had an issue, we very well could have brought some guys in to see who has got a better feel for us and then go with them as the starter,” Fisher said. “But we’ve already got a starter. He was clearly our two, he steps up and plays. We’ve really not done anything.

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    Hill’s moment is at hand

    • By Jim Thomas

    http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/hill-s-moment-is-at-hand/article_fb713947-68f3-54f8-a6d7-daf298c80635.html

    Whether it was tongue-in-cheek or an innocent remark, Jeff Fisher elicited chuckles from reporters and brought back memories of the glory days when he said Sunday: “This team’s gonna rally around Shaun and we’re gonna go play,” Fisher said.

    You know, just like Dick Vermeil and you-know-who back in 1999. Obviously, no one expects Shaun Hill to be the next Kurt Warner. And it’s unfair to Hill to even suggest that.

    But in the interest of due diligence, the question had to be asked Monday when Hill met with reporters for the first time as the Rams’ starting quarterback.

    Shaun, have you ever worked in a grocery store?

    “No,” Hill said, taking the bait. “The closest was a fireworks stand in the

    summertime. We would start out the year and we would package and ship for Jake’s

    Fireworks in Pittsburg, Kansas. And then as soon as the store was able to open we’d go and run the store for a few weeks.”

    OK, not exactly like stocking grocery shelves at the Hy-Vee, but it’s a start.

    Which is what Hill, a native of Parsons, Kan., will be doing in the Rams’ Sept. 7 season opener against Minnesota — starting at quarterback against the Vikings.

    One of the biggest media crowds of the preseason was in attendance Monday as the practice week started, wondering how the Rams would survive life without Sam Bradford and if Hill could cut it as Bradford’s replacement.

    “He actually completed some passes today,” Fisher deadpanned. “And he actually knows where to go with the football, believe it or not. He’s fine. He’s a competitor, and knows what he’s doing. He’s going to make every opportunity count.”

    Hill isn’t promising to deliver fireworks — that’s no longer his job. But after throwing only 16 passes over the past three seasons (as a Detroit Lion), he is ready for the opportunity.

    “Definitely,” Hill said. “Obviously you feel terrible for Sam. Getting to know him here, I was really looking forward to seeing him play this year. He was going to light it up.

    “But the nature of the business is next guy up — that’s me. There’s a lot of excitement, getting amped up, and ready to go for this one.”

    Hill learned that Bradford’s knee injury was season-ending just like everyone else — at a team meeting Sunday. He has since talked to Bradford to offer words of encouragement.

    “Like I said, I feel bad for the guy,” Hill said. “He’s gonna come back better from it, though, for sure. I guarantee it.”

    Known throughout his career as a stickler for preparation, Hill said he had a good grasp of the offense by the end of OTAs, conquering the whole learning-a-new-language thing. Once training camp started he was able to hit the ground running and learn the nuances and details of the system.

    “I’ve always gone into every week, even as a backup, as if I was gonna play,” Hill said. “That’s the only way I knew how to prepare. That’s the only way I knew how to do it.

    “So to be honest with you, my mindset’s the same as it’s been every week. And I think throughout the length of my career, having that mindset every week has helped me to this moment. So that it’s not anything new. I don’t have to do anything different.”

    Through 12 NFL seasons Hill, 34, has played in only 34 games, with 26 regular-season starts. Even with that lack of playing time, he has been an opening-day starter before, in 2009 for San Francisco.

    Not that you’d expect the Rams to say we’re doomed, but Hill seems to have the full confidence of his teammates.

    “Shaun Hill has everything it takes to take us to the playoffs this year,” wide receiver Chris Givens said. “He’s a leader. He demands respect in the huddle. He’s always making good decisions, and he’s a good vet guy to learn from.”

    And one more from wide receiver Tavon Austin: “He’s a smart quarterback. He knows the system. He’s been around this league a while. There’s nothing he can’t handle.”

    Hill said he’s had enough time on the practice field with the wideouts to develop a good rapport with the group. Keep in mind, he got plenty of reps with the starters during the June OTA period when Bradford’s practice time was limited.

    “I feel comfortable with all of them,” Hill said.

    The book on Hill says he is more accurate and throws a better deep ball than last year’s backup, Kellen Clemens. The fact that he has been at this a long time — the Rams were coming off a Super Bowl season when he entered the league in 2002 — should help when it comes to game-planning every week.

    “I think that’s kinda where that experience and that edge will take over,” Hill said.

    Fisher has done everything possible to give Hill a solid foundation, as well as send a message to the team, by reiterating to anyone who will listen that Hill is his guy and dismissing any trade speculation. You never say never in this business, but the Rams are not knocking on doors. There is a difference.

    “We’ve not had discussions with anybody,” Fisher said again Monday. “Again, we’re gonna be patient with this.”

    It’s possible some quarterback may be released in the next several days who interests the Rams. A trade partner may develop at some point. Who knows?

    “But we’re not initiating anything right now,” Fisher said.

    Fisher later added: “I think it’s important that once you make a change, for whatever reason, you stick with it. And we’re sticking with this, there’s no doubt about that.

    “That allows everybody to get comfortable and have confidence in who’s under center as opposed to: ‘Well, what are we gonna do this week?’ He’s our guy, and we’re going to move forward.”
    ABOUT SHAUN HILL

    Ht.: 6-3

    Wt: 220

    Age: 34

    Years pro: 13

    BY THE NUMBERS

    Games/Att/Cmp/Pct/TDs/INTs/QB Rate

    34/954/591/61.9/41/23/85.9

    Note: Backup quarterback Austin Davis is a second-year pro that has yet to throw a regular-season pass in the NFL.

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    Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – August 25, 2014

    (On if the heat brought the team indoors)
    “We got back late, so yesterday was kind of a recovery day. Just wanted to give them a chance to recover. We’ll go back out tomorrow and of course we’re expecting some warm weather down in Miami, but this made sense for the guys. ”

    (On if he spoke to QB Shaun Hill about his new role)
    “That’s coming. Obviously, we had a little visit and he’s excited. Like I’ve said since yesterday, he’s disappointed for Sam (Bradford). That’s where his heart’s at right now because he knows how hard he worked, but in this business you move on, so he’s ready to go. He’s excited about his opportunity.”

    (On how Hill practiced today)
    “He was fine. He actually completed some passes today. He was fine and he actually knows where to go with the football believe it or not. He’s fine, he’s a competitor and knows what he’s doing. He’s going to make every opportunity count.”

    (On if he is going to make offensive adjustments)
    “No change whatsoever. Nothing, no changes. He fits right in, no changes whatsoever. We’ll be able to game plan on a weekly basis as if Sam were still here.”

    (On the mood of the team after finding out about Bradford’s injury)
    “Yesterday was difficult. They all care for Sam but they understand we have work to do. We have things we have to get done this week, on a short week and so they were working really good today.”

    (On his response to trade speculations)
    “You know what I like is, ‘According to sources close to the situation, we’re da da da da da….’ I love that okay. So no, we have not had any conversations with anybody. It’s the old source deal, you can just throw that out there. There’s a lot of players out there that are under contract and so you can’t discuss those things. But we’ve not had any discussions with anybody. Again, we’re going to be patient with this. There’s probably a couple quarterbacks let go at 75. There will probably be some let go at the 53 and like I said, there may be somebody, a club, we may have a trade partner out there. We don’t know. but we’re not initiating anything right now.”

    (On Hill’s personality)
    “He’s got a great since of humor. He’s outstanding in the huddle as you would expect a veteran to be so. It’s not just a play call, it’s the reminders in the huddle for breaks and reminders on the way to the line of scrimmage for the guys. And that’s important when you have a young team. But off the field, in meeting rooms, he’s just a normal guy. Very competitive though.”

    (On if he and Hill have fished together)
    “We’ve not fished together yet. No, we haven’t.”

    (On the keys to keeping the team together after a quarterback change)
    “Well, I think it’s important that once you make a change, for whatever reason, you stick with it and we’re sticking with this. There’s no doubt about that. That allows everybody to get comfortable and have confidence in who’s under center as opposed to, ‘Well, what are we going to do this week?’ So there’s no doubt that he’s our guy and we’re going to move forward. And again you have those discussions with the team and the defense will rally together and say, ‘Hey, we may have to win this week on defense,’ if we’re a playing very, very good opponent. But, the rest of the team just kind of picks itself up and goes on.”

    (On when it comes the time to evaluate the quarterbacks)
    “I don’t really like to deal with hypotheticals, but had Shaun not been here and we had an issue, we very well could have brought some guys in and see whose got a better feel for us under center and then go and name a starter, but we’ve already got a starter. He was clearly our two. He steps up and goes, and so anything that happens beyond that I can’t comment because we’ve really not done anything.”

    (On if QB Austin Davis is up to the challenge of being the No. 2 quarterback)
    “Yeah, you’re going to see him play. You’re going to get to see him play Thursday night. He played well in the game against a lot of their starters and so he made plays. He’s got a good feel, he’s got a good feel for what we’re doing. As I mentioned, (Offensive Coordinator Brian Schottenheimer’s) ‘Schotty’s’ very much at ease calling plays for him because he understands the offense.”

    (On Davis’ improvement this offseason)
    “Well it’s been hard on him and the others because of what they’re seeing from the defense in camp. That has helped him as you move into the games. (Defensive Coordinator) Gregg’s (Williams) going to throw everything at him and it’s very competitive and it’s difficult. But that makes it easier for him as you get into the regular season. The game slows down when you’re seeing so much happen at practice. It slows down and it’s slowing down for Austin.”

    Rams QB Shaun Hill – August 25, 2014

    (On if he’s ready to be the Rams’ starter)
    “Yeah, definitely. Obviously I feel terrible for Sam (Bradford). Getting to know him here, I was really looking forward to seeing him play this year. He was going to light it up. But, the nature of the business, next guy up and that’s me. A lot of excitement getting cranked up and ready to go for this one.”

    (On how he learned that Bradford’s injury was season ending and if he’s talked to Bradford)
    “Yeah, I talked to Sam. Like I said, I feel bad for the guy. He’s going to come back better from it though, for sure. I guarantee it. How did I learn about it? The same time everybody else did on the team, in the team meeting yesterday.”

    (On if the Rams’ offense is similar to any other system he’s previously played in)
    “Yeah, it’s like learning a new language, just calling the plays and getting the picture of what that play is. From there, once you learn that new language, then you learn the nuances of it. It’s been a good process. We’ve put in a ton of work in the offseason, in OTAs and then I was able to come in and hit the ground running for training camp. That’s when we personally started working on the nuances of the offense and learning all the details of it. It’s been good. It’s been a good process.”

    (On if his history with QB Coach Frank Cignetti has been beneficial in his acclimation to the offense)
    “Yeah, especially early because we’ve been together before so we were able to speak the same language as he was teaching me some of the concepts. So, yeah that did help, especially early.”

    (On fans comparing the current situation to that of the 1999 Rams with Kurt Warner replacing Trent Green)
    “I didn’t realize they were making that comparison. This is a totally different situation. This is the 2014 Rams team. We’re going to go out and our attitude and our focus hasn’t changed.”

    (On if he ever worked in a grocery store like Warner did)
    “No, the closest was a fireworks stand or lot in the summer times. Fireworks stand, lawn mower, things like that.”

    (On what he did at the fireworks stand)
    “Well, we would start off the year, we would package and ship for Jake’s Fireworks in Pittsburg, Kansas. Then as soon as the store was able to open, we’d go and run the store for a few weeks.”

    (On if Jake’s is still open)
    “Yeah, Jake’s is a big company, now. You’ll have to look it up. They might do the Cardinals’ fireworks. Who knows?”

    (On if he’s ever been a starter going into the opening week of the season)
    “Yes.”

    (On how the mindset of a starter is different than that of a backup)
    “To be honest with you, I’ve always gone into every week, even as a backup, as if I was going to play. That’s the only way I knew how to prepare. That’s the only way I knew how to do it. So to be honest with you, my mindset is the same as it’s been every week. I think throughout the length of my career, having that mindset every week has helped me for this moment so it’s not anything new. I don’t have to do anything different.”

    (On what season he was the opening day starter)
    “It was 2009, San Francisco.”

    (On what makes him confident that the Rams can be successful this season)
    “We’ve got a very talented group and a great coaching staff. All the pieces are in place.”

    (On his chemistry with the receivers)
    “This preseason has been great. I’ve been able to work with all those guys so I’ve definitely been able to build a rapport with those guys and will continue to do so. I feel comfortable with all of them.”

    (On how his long stretches as a backup have prepared him for this opportunity)
    “It definitely did. Life of a backup, you might not go in for a few years but you have to stay ready. At the same time, it kind of feeds your fire. It makes you want to get back out there, and when the chance comes, you’re excited and you’re ready for it.”

    (On the possibility of the Rams adding another quarterback to the roster)
    “That’s always a possibility no matter what. That’s never been an issue, not something I’ll look into or read into. There’s nothing to even think about. All I can control is all I can control and go out and play my best.”

    (On how it makes him feel that Head Coach Jeff Fisher emphatically says that Hill is ‘his guy’)
    “It feels good to have his confidence and the team’s confidence. They’ve rallied around me and it’s been good.”

    (On the response he’s received from the rest of the team)
    “It’s been very supportive. Everybody’s heart goes out to Sam in this situation, but the team has definitely rallied and been very supportive.”

    (On what it was like talking to Bradford on Sunday)
    “Kind of what I told him was, ‘Look, God’s going to teach you something about himself and he’s going to teach you something about yourself in this situation.’ That’s what he does in every tough situation, and that’s what Sam’s facing. He will come out great on the other end. I promise you that. I’m still here to support him and he’s going to come back and he’s going to support me during the season. I know he will. He’s a standup guy. He’s going to be able to help me in game planning and things like that. We have a great relationship. I look forward to that.”

    (On what he’d tell people he can bring to the offense)
    “I’ve got some experience and been in this league for a long time. I think when we get into the game planning part of it, I think that’s where the experience and that edge will take over.”

    #5129
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    those discussions weren’t part of the consideration because doctors in the end are businessmen. they’re interested in their bottom line. their interests are often in making the patient feel as positive about their experience as they possibly can. did the doctors go over all the possible scenarios with bradford? did they tell him the risks of a re-tear and the prognosis if it did happen?

    the professional athlete. and any patient for that matter. wants better treatment. they want it faster. and they should. but doctors are always going to tow the line between acceptable risk and getting as many patients and cash as they can.

    my sense is that they still don’t know a lot about acl surgeries. the wash u article is from 2011. this second article is from 2013. and the sense that i get is that they are still learning about the rehab process. what is most effective? what is the recovery time? they have an inkling. but no concrete answers. my guess is that after 3 years, they still don’t know much. they know more. but still learning.

    now is this what they want the public to know? is this what they want the patient to know? that they still don’t know a lot about it? most likely they’d rather keep the patient in the dark and be as positive and reassuring as they can. it’s in THEIR best interests to be that way. and pretty soon we’ll all hear about another success story, and we’ll forget about all the risks of coming back too early.

    i’m being too harsh i realize. i’m not trying to paint some dark evil picture. i’m sorry if it’s coming across that way.

    and that statement about ap. that was overboard. but i still stand by my opinion that it sounds like to me. the recovery period should be longer. but the public and the athletes want faster and better and doctors and trainers probably feel obliged to comply.

    #5124
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    well this is an article on second acl surgeries and why they fail.

    one other thing i want to add. a lot also depends on the extent of damage. bradford’s was isolated meaning the other ligaments and cartilage were apparently intact. so he has that going for him. alexander’s injury i believe was not isolated. it probably looked like a plate of spaghetti in there.

    http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/22661.aspx

    Sports medicine specialists at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis are leading a national study analyzing why a second surgery to reconstruct a tear in the knee’s anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) carries a high risk of bad outcomes.

    More than 200,000 ACL reconstruction surgeries are performed each year in the United States, and 1 percent to 8 percent fail for some reason. Most of those patients then opt to have their knee ligament reconstructed a second time, but the failure rate on those subsequent surgeries is almost 14 percent.

    The Washington University group has received a $2.6 million grant from the National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases and is leading dozens of surgeons across the nation in one of the largest orthopedic, multicenter studies ever conducted. The MARS study (Mutlicenter ACL Revision Study) is comparing surgical techniques and analyzing outcomes for patients undergoing ACL surgery to learn why a subsequent reconstruction is more likely to fail than an initial ACL repair.

    “If I reconstruct the ACL in your knee, and you go back to sports, and three years later you pivot on a basketball court and tear it again, that subsequent surgery often does not have results equal to the original surgery,” says Rick W. Wright, MD, the MARS study’s principal investigator. “In a previous study, we found that the strongest predictor for a bad outcome after ACL surgery was whether that surgery was the initial reconstruction or a subsequent procedure.”

    Wright, professor of orthopaedic surgery, co-chief of Washington University’s Sports Medicine Service and an orthopedic surgeon at Barnes-Jewish Hospital, has helped recruit 87 surgeons from 52 centers to participate in the MARS study. All are sports medicine specialists who are members of the American Orthopaedic Society for Sports Medicine. Surgeons involved in the study include both academic physicians and those in private practice.

    During ACL reconstruction, surgeons sometimes replace the torn knee ligament with a ligament transplanted from a cadaver. In other cases, the surgeon will move a piece of the hamstring muscle or the patellar tendon and attach it in place of the torn ligament.

    Wright and his colleagues are recruiting patients for the MARS study who have a second tear of the ACL. They plan to enroll 1,000 patients at the various centers around the country and follow them for at least two years to identify predictors of problems after surgery.

    Surgeons will note the condition of the knee and how the original surgery was performed to see whether that predicts problems with a subsequent operation. They also will make note of the surgical technique initially used and whether the ACL graft used in the initial reconstruction came from a cadaver, from the hamstring muscle or from the patellar tendon.

    Surgeons also will compare rehabilitation techniques and whether particular approaches are related to better, or worse, outcomes. Patients also will be surveyed about their knee function, the general state of their health and their quality of life before and after a second ACL surgery.

    Those participating in the MARS study must be older than 12, but there is no upper age limit.

    “By definition, most of the people in the study will be active,” Wright says. “ Most are athletes who want to continue to compete, but the study also is open to those who just need knee surgery so they can get back to work.”

    The ACL plays a crucial role in our ability to cut, jump, twist and change directions. Even in people who don’t compete in sports, ACL tears are related to having a knee give out, and when that happens, says Wright, it can damage the knee’s meniscus, the rubbery disc that cushions the knee and keeps it steady. If the knee gives out it also can tear cartilage in the joint, contribute to arthritis and increase the risk that an individual will someday require total knee replacement surgery.

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